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INVESTING IN CRYPTOCURRENCY VS. INVEST IN CURRENT MONETARY SYSTEM
***CHAPTER 1.***
Difficult question.  Is it really hard?
One thing is certain, bitcoin ecosystem is growing and getting stronger every day.
The idea of decentralization, open source code, safe transfer and freedom of goods/money transactions began to live.
Finally, I clearly see what it is really the 21st century, and what changes it brings!
Era of digitalization and globalization has been confirmed in practice but it didn't end its evolution path... so I decided to join the 21st century!
So I'm going to invest in a crypto currency which will become the monetary system of the 21st century!

WHERE TO BEGIN?
*** CHAPTER 2.***
A simple question with a bit of objective thinking.
First you need to locate yourself in the global-digital-crypto-monetary system of coordinates. I'll just put on my list of all abilities: Business, intellectual, socio-cultural, technical...
The very rough sketch of my characteristics, skills, contacts, capital, etc.., can show me the direction of movement.
If we add desires, which are always higher than the possibilities, it may be obtained proper focus and determine the goal.
Combinations and variations on this theme are endless, but the denominator is the same: „everyone is responsible for his own happiness“!

THE DECISION WAS MADE!
*** CHAPTER 3.***
Undeniable fact helped me in hard decision, those are:
1.   Bitcoin crossed a critical mass of users, transactions, capitalization...
2.   Bitcoin has suffered serious children’s diseases and attacks both inside and outside.
3.   Large business everyday approach  and accepting bitcoin.
4.   Industrialization of mining for profit.
5.   Huge intellect on the development and improvement of crypto currencies.
6.   Development of ecosystem is unstopable! World goverment no more can't suppres the evaluation.
Very good view of all the above is: http://www.coindesk.com/state-of-bitcoin-q2-2014-report-expanding-bitcoin-economy/
According to my abilities and desires I decided : mining + trading +development .
Goal are little high, but as a businessman with the decades of experience in various fields + professional trader-broker, I can focus on them.
PS. All of this of course will do a small team full of positive energy with a mini dollar fuel.

MINERS & MINIG
*** CHAPTER 4. ***
Instead of reading other people's experiences good or bad, in the end it is inevitable to examine the thing alive.
The dilemma of whether mining is payable was quickly resolved. The decision to invest in a medium or a long term in crypto currencies has only three possible paths: mining, trading and development.
Trading and development option is recommended only if you are a professional in those areas. Only option that is remained for masses is MINING.
Indeed the very idea of mining, relatively the concept of POW, is directed to great decentralization and dispersion of users. The only obstacle in the way of mining industrialization which leads to extreme racing in the production of more efficient ASIC chips, rising difficulty and slowing repayments investment in hardware.
What is the irrefutable fact is "every miner is in the area of income as long as the cost doesn’t exceed the current effects of mining”.

***So our first step was: compose our own miner by open source files Avalon 3. A lot of time and resources to different contact of components suppliers, PCB board and assembling is hard work and in the end is totally unprofitable. After one month, we haven’t moved from the initial consultation with suppliers.

***Our second step was the procurement of a finished ASIC miner for Bitcoin, test it, and if it turns out well buy other ASIC miners.
Here appeared great problem of choice and making the right decision.
1. Whether to accept the preorder or go to the final product?
2. Which type of miner to take?
3. If we specify the type from who to buy and at what price?
4. When we buy it what are the import procedures and what documents is necessary?
5. At the end, what are the total costs with customs, shipping and tax?
6. A separate issue is whether the advertised product actually has these features?
7. And what we certainly will not get is warranty on the work and accuracy of the product…THEN WHAT TO BUY!?

***We made next choice:
1.   We will not wait and pay some promised and insecure miner, we need a machine that will work instantly!
2.   Type of miner that we were looking for is based on Avalon 3 chips because we wanted to test him better with open source files and try our solution for new hardware.
3.   At the moment of looking the best price, best rates had Chinese suppliers with the unknown history and new firms, probably formed just for this job. Obviously a bunch of smaller Chinese companies have good contacts with some real hardware manufacturer for Avalon 3. We took the risk…
4.   After a detail check of procedure, import was better and easier on the individual then on the company. What is a little strange, but in our case the import of one miner is certainly true.
5.   At a base price of miners should be safe to add another 30-40% of other costs. In our case there were banks charges + couriers services + customs + shipping + tax. When we put it all together it isn’t so little!!!
6.   What first disappointed us was that miner we got in the commercial has one power at reality other. That is 3 PCB boards with 50 Avalon 3 chips don’t have 1Ths!!! In fact, every Avalon 3 chip has normally 7 Ghs but in the reality 5-6 Ghs. So in practical application one PCB with 50 chips have maximum 275Ghs, and our miner instead 1 Ths can extract maximum about 800 Ghs!!!
7.   Returns and warranties in such procurement of hardware simply don’t exist. However, in first month we was satisfies because miner was delivered on time and by agreement. After a month of working at full capacity miner began to lose power from 800 Ghs to 600 Ghs!!!
When we opened the PCB and tested them, we couldn’t stop wondering. The whole system and components on the PCB board were up tighter, not even close to the hardware open source files.
Adjustment of voltage was fixed by the hardware so whatever voltage we changed to the CGminer admin panel didn’t work on hardware.  Only changing the frequency operation of hardware was true.
In addition because miner always was on maximum Avalon 3 chips started to fail. From total of 15 modules (everyone contains 10 chips) 6 of them failed.

This whole experience was relatively expensive but significantly.
Because of that we want to share it with others.
It brought to us a lot of practical knowledge, new plans and ideas, and for you it would be useful to read.

IDEA ABOUT MINER LEASING
*** CHAPTER 5. ***
After the first examination with mining we moved forward. There was no thought after the first step to give up or to be disappointed.
We look upon that like a kind of testing and investing in the future mining business.
Taught by our example we get the idea for new business.
We create a system that will eliminate all the problems and obstacles which may have only beginners and in depended - home miners.
System that will connect hardware manufactures and end users on the quality manner with mutual benefit.
We called that project "Miner leasing" and in the past two months we have done overall preparation alone.
Now is the time to introduce project to the community.
We are very excited and it is important to us every comment, suggestion or good proposal!!!  
See our web site www.minerleasing.com and discuss on the forum with us …

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I'm sorry to give you the bad news, but this board hates Avalon and promised to not do business with them or with anyone related with them anymore after their last year gimmick with chips delays. Being greedy always pays off one way or another.

Also your topic is in the wrong section. You are offering a Service, not Hardware.

@Also your topic is in the wrong section. You are offering a Service, not Hardware.


Hi, yes we do. We starting bussiness project MINER LEASING. So it is about seling miners on leasing.
We will send more info at 04.08. and on our web FAQ.

So you want to sell people miners and get paid a monthly fee for them after delivering the miners to people?

I'm sorry, but I found this HILARIOUS!! (see pic) lmfao. ;D ;D seems legit!

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what I am talking about you will notice at the top of their page. What I am wondering now... what exactly is a "mainer"?

Yes , we will sell miners and get paid on monthly fee - leasing biz model.
So, in marketing contest we will conect hardver producer and retail consumers.

 :)

Sorry, we also see some other mistake.
It will be correct. :)

Do you have some other comments on the content ?  

What he meant to say is, we will sell miners in such way that you dont pay full price at start for the miners, but you pay in monthly instalments until price target is made. After you paid off your miner, we can either get it sent to you, or leave it with us and enjoy low cost electricity and full support.

YOU CAN CHECK OUR FAQ TO GET MORE INFO ABOUT MINER LEASING BIZ MODEL.
REGARDS TO ALL,

Interesting. Because I'm new in this your tips help me to avoid some mistakes.
Nice work

Thanks, you can get more info about biz model on our presentation.

I saw your presentation. I'm sending you a pm so we could talk about this. I'm very interested in your offer.

Hello everyone ...

@DURONIS is your company located in serbia too ? i see facility is, so is there possibility to meet you in person ?

Cheers,

Hi DrZeck,
Yes, we would like to see some press relies  about our facility in Serbia - Novi Sad city.
But, we cannot arrange meeting for every client.
So , if it is OK, send us a PM.


 

i have sent you an email trough minerleasing.com contact form

I have a question.
Will you have any miners to lease (like GPUs) for other algos (cryptonight, x11, x13 etc.), or just scrypt and SHA?

I find this idea very interesting, might buy some contracts for myself.

I can just tell you they are very nice. They answer all my questions that I ask in PM and they give me answers that i needed.

You will not mistake, Recommendation for them :)

Our first step is to offer ASIC miners, SHA and Skrypt.
As we go to next step, as large interest will be, GPU rig can also be in our offer.
If some one looking for GPU rig leasing, lets send us massage.

THE OFFER FOR FIRST MINER LEASING CONTRACT WILL BE THIS WEEK...

MORE NEWS TO COME !

THE 1ST MINER LEASING CONTRACT OFFER IS RELEASE ... 22.08.2014.
 ;D

when can we see some photos/videos of facility?

help me to clear something up.

IF i would like to buy miner from you, process goes like this: (correct me if i am wrong)

1. i pay you 500$ for A1.
2. 1TH starts mining for me instantly.
3. after a month i can buy off whole miner with rest of 600$
4. can i pay just 60$+30$ and to have miner working for me for next month?
5. can i pay 200$ + handling fees (90$) for next month?
6. then 3rd month can i pay rest of the money or can i move payments to next month or pay just a part?

7. after X months when i decide that i wana buy miner. i just send you rest of the money and you are shipping it to me?
no more fees, payments? we have finished that deal and we can move to a next?


if i have misunderstand anything please correct me.

best regards,
Gologuzan 

You can see facility space at the left/down side of flayer.

As we say > preparing facilities and looking for new miners...

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Also , we looking for some official press interview / text+photo+video will be official to public.
 :) 

Dear,

1. As soon as we receive your payment the miner will start mining for you.
2. In the contract, there is installment schedule with dates when they are due.
    The installment scheme is very precise and you must stick with it.
3. Yes, you can make a prepayment and buy off whole miner.
4./ 5. / 6.  You have to pay full amount of the installment, not just 60$+30$ for your miner to keep working.
                If you are late with the payment, you will have additional 48 hours to make a payment and after that the miner will be shut down. Re-start will cost 100$.
7. When the contract expires, you can buy miner and we will ship it to you. You will have to pay the customs fee and taxes, but they will be reduced since the value of the miner has been amortized.

Hope that it is more clear to you now. Feel free to ask any other question.

Best regards,
Miner Leasing Team

Great offer. I'm pretty satisfied with my contract. Star mining with all help of them. Every recommendation. :D What you are waiting for :D