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Title: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Thekool1s on August 02, 2014, 05:57:29 AM
So the question is simple will Dogecoin come to a stage like BTC has does? 600$ mark? Or even 100$  mark? What is the main difference in these coins?


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Victoo on August 02, 2014, 06:10:24 AM
I don't think this is ever gonna happen. BTC has only 15 million coins while Doge has unlimited supply of coins with over 80 billion coins already in rotation.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: soccosocco on August 02, 2014, 06:17:18 AM
I do not think so, but we will never know the future events
The most basic difference, Bitcoin: BTC Dogecoin: DOGE  ;D
BTC has 15 million coins while Dogecoin has more than 80 billion coin


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on August 02, 2014, 06:17:36 AM
NO
The reason is the supply side of it there are far to many Dogecoins to see a price similar to Bitcoin
However the viability of a coin like Dogecoin in the future is a question I initially wrote it off but it exploded and is still a fairly large coin in usage and marketcap and got some people into cryto, so it may still exist in one form or another.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Thekool1s on August 02, 2014, 06:19:12 AM
I don't think this is ever gonna happen. BTC has only 15 million coins while Doge has unlimited supply of coins with over 80 billion coins already in rotation.

ok That finishes the topic right their no need to discuss more, I think?  :D


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: knight22 on August 02, 2014, 06:20:32 AM
Doge hype is over and won't come back.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: demgains on August 02, 2014, 06:24:28 AM
lol can't believe doge even made it this far, congrats to them but anyone that thinks a coin made after a stupid meme will get as big as BTC is off their rocker


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: BelieveTheHype on August 02, 2014, 06:35:26 AM
Doge hype is over and won't come back.

I see what you are saying, but it does continue to have a strong community behind Doge.
Also, from what i've read, they have some parties already figuring out ways to put them in the right communities to make it valuable for people.

ie. Tipping app (FB), live mmo game that lets you mine.

there may be more now.. so.. who knows...

it'll never be as high as bitcoin, but it definitely has the potential to be one of the few crypto-currencies left standing after many randos start washing out...


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Nerazzura on August 02, 2014, 07:49:14 AM
along with the rising popularity of digital cryptocurrency or the exchange rate, then comes Dogecoin, initially only to make fun of the Bitcoin exchange rate moves abysmally, sometimes high up and not infrequently also dropped drastically.

What can I say, from the beginning just to taunt now Dogecoin Bitcoin bandwagon even fame, its value starts to rise and have their own fans. This Dogecoin new Padahaln circulating early December.

There are even people who intentionally facilitate transactions through the site Dogecoin Dogemarket. On this site, a variety of goods can be purchased Dogecoin wear, although this time the value of the Dogecoin only comparable to the US $ 0.00023.

It is still much value when compared with Bitcoin, whose value has been through US $ 1200 and is now traded in the range $ 700's. But first Bitcoin also start with a value that is also almost the same size.

However, now more and more people are transacting and mine new digital currency. The rabid fans of the Doge's meme even directly create an official forum named Dogecoin.org to help beginners who are interested in using Dogecoin


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: arbitrage001 on August 02, 2014, 07:58:49 AM
Doge hype is over and won't come back.

I see what you are saying, but it does continue to have a strong community behind Doge.
Also, from what i've read, they have some parties already figuring out ways to put them in the right communities to make it valuable for people.

ie. Tipping app (FB), live mmo game that lets you mine.

there may be more now.. so.. who knows...

it'll never be as high as bitcoin, but it definitely has the potential to be one of the few crypto-currencies left standing after many randos start washing out...

The coins were supported by GPU miners alone. Now, even the miners are abandoning the ship.



Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Hasher99 on August 02, 2014, 08:15:30 AM
wont happen, over 80 bil doge and you can mine as much as you want. And BTC 21 mil max and a lot left to mine.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: DavidHume on August 02, 2014, 08:20:10 AM
wont happen, over 80 bil doge and you can mine as much as you want. And BTC 21 mil max and a lot left to mine.

Law of supply and demand at work.

No one will pay high price knowing there is 80B existing doge coin out there.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Bizmark13 on August 02, 2014, 08:44:34 AM
So the question is simple will Dogecoin come to a stage like BTC has does? 600$ mark? Or even 100$  mark? What is the main difference in these coins?

The differences between the two is total supply and demand. The price of a coin (or anything for that matter) largely depends on these two things. The more demand there is, the higher the price. The more supply there is, the lower the price. This is why there are some coins out there like 42coin which nobody really wants, but because the total supply is so small (i.e. there are currently only 12 of them on the market and there will never be more than 42 coins ever mined - hence the name), each 42coin sells for a whopping $2,000.

Now, as you might already know, Bitcoin is a much more established cryptocurrency than Dogecoin so naturally there is greater demand for it. Hence, even if Bitcoin and Dogecoin both had the exact same number of coins, Bitcoin would be priced higher than Dogecoin. But more importantly, Bitcoin is much more scarce compared to Dogecoin. Bitcoin has about 13 million coins at the moment and will never have more than 21 million coins. Dogecoin does not work in the same manner. There are many, many more dogecoins, and new dogecoins will always be produced since there is no cap. For example, right now there are almost 90 billion dogecoins:

Quote from: Wikipedia.org
Unlike deflationary cryptocurrencies (like Bitcoin), there is no limit to how many Dogecoins can be produced. This puts Dogecoin in the same league as other inflationary coins. According to the current production schedule, approximately 98 billion coins will have been released by January 2015, when block 600,000 is mined. Thereafter, approximately 5.2 billion more coins will be produced per year, in perpetuity.

In order for 1 dogecoin to be worth $1 today, Dogecoin would have a market cap of $90 billion. In order for 1 dogecoin to reach $100, Dogecoin would need to have a market cap of $9 trillion. So you can see why this would be infeasible.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: keithers on August 02, 2014, 08:56:43 AM
This can probably be moved to the alt coin section. IMO dogecoin won't ever come close to BTC prices. I don't think the devs even intend on that.  I guess anything is possible, but very very improbable


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: DrG on August 02, 2014, 09:02:05 AM
Rather than follow LTC's lead Doge is slowly following Coinye's lead - the community support cannot overcome the inertia of miners dumping the coin for minimal profits.  Any rise in price is met with a few miners throwing ASICs at it for a couple hours and dumping.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Rub3n on August 02, 2014, 09:07:09 AM
the difference is volume, there are much more doge coins. That means that if there are x100 more you need to multiply the price with the same amount. If u do that it comes a bit closer already. But no, the price wont go much higher simply because the mass will never use this ridiculous coin.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Mjbmonetarymetals on August 02, 2014, 09:10:29 AM
So the question is simple will Dogecoin come to a stage like BTC has does? 600$ mark? Or even 100$  mark?

No.

What is the main difference in these coins?

Bitcoins network is secure, Dogecoins isn't.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: goose20 on August 02, 2014, 09:15:46 AM
So the question is simple will Dogecoin come to a stage like BTC has does? 600$ mark? Or even 100$  mark? What is the main difference in these coins?

Yes, absolutely - buy as much doge as you can. Like at least 100 million. Then live the life of a multi-trillionaire.
SWEET.

Seriously - NO.



Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: pawel7777 on August 02, 2014, 09:22:53 AM
So the question is simple will Dogecoin come to a stage like BTC has does? 600$ mark? Or even 100$  mark? What is the main difference in these coins?

That's a flawed logic. Due to the huge differences in supply, DOGE doesn't need to reach $600 mark. If 1 DOGE is $0.087 it would exceed the market cap of BTC ($7.7 billion).


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: oceans on August 02, 2014, 09:29:35 AM
No, I don't see that dogecoin will become like bitcoin any time soon if at all. There are limited amounts of bitcoins whereas with dogecoin there is an unlimited supply of those leaving it easy to get hold of and meaning it will not have as high price as bitcoin. You never know what may happen in the future but as it stands this is not possible right now.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Bizmark13 on August 02, 2014, 09:31:06 AM
Rather than follow LTC's lead Doge is slowly following Coinye's lead - the community support cannot overcome the inertia of miners dumping the coin for minimal profits.  Any rise in price is met with a few miners throwing ASICs at it for a couple hours and dumping.

Coinye was destroyed by a lawsuit. It seems more likely that Dogecoin is just suffering from a downtrend that's affecting all of the older more established altcoins (of which DOGE was probably the last). Both Peercoin and Litecoin have been experiencing the same decline for most of the year too as attention has shifted to the newer altcoins (of which NXT was probably the first and includes coins like DRK, XMR, etc.) which have popped up in recent months.

This can probably be moved to the alt coin section. IMO dogecoin won't ever come close to BTC prices. I don't think the devs even intend on that.  I guess anything is possible, but very very improbable

Assuming BTC price of $1,000 for simplicity, if each DOGE was worth $1,000 then Dogecoin at its current state would need to have a market cap of $90 trillion. So yes, it would be very, very improbable.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: lauraqtro on August 02, 2014, 09:33:54 AM
I don't think so because of DOGE supply instead of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: JJB on August 02, 2014, 09:38:28 AM
Lol. Seriously. Just look at the marketcap of Dogecoin. It will never be worth anything because of this. It's just not possible.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: bcmine on August 02, 2014, 09:44:03 AM
dogecoin is a meme. in 10 years it will be part of history, i wish i could say something different like good or positive now. months ago i was thinking they could make it, but lost the tracks.... coin vusiness is very innovative and competative. even litecoin goes down to $3.5


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Mr Crabs on August 02, 2014, 10:07:40 AM
dogecoin is a meme. in 10 years it will be part of history, i wish i could say something different like good or positive now. months ago i was thinking they could make it, but lost the tracks.... coin vusiness is very innovative and competative. even litecoin goes down to $3.5

It's based on a meme, but not one itself. It's popularity only comes from a joke though and that's what it is.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: BitCoinDream on August 02, 2014, 10:10:45 AM
So the question is simple will Dogecoin come to a stage like BTC has does? 600$ mark? Or even 100$  mark? What is the main difference in these coins?

Because of unlimited supply, dogecoin will ultimately become an inflationary currency. So no chance of it being bitcoin ever.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: gondel on August 02, 2014, 10:26:23 AM
So the question is simple will Dogecoin come to a stage like BTC has does? 600$ mark? Or even 100$  mark? What is the main difference in these coins?
600 no :D
But if the price of BTC skyrocket it is pushing the prices of all the other coins for certain time. When the 1000 bubble happened all the coins where to the moon too. If the support of DOGE continues it has a bright future.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: tss on August 02, 2014, 10:46:41 AM
no and never


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: mr angry on August 02, 2014, 11:01:19 AM
So the question is simple will Dogecoin come to a stage like BTC has does? 600$ mark? Or even 100$  mark? What is the main difference in these coins?

Because of unlimited supply, dogecoin will ultimately become an inflationary currency. So no chance of it being bitcoin ever.

It's a pity the dev's will not reconsider the extremely high interest rate they have given DogeCoin. The original idea was it should have a hard cap.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: jersey19957 on August 02, 2014, 11:30:36 AM
It's hard it will ever reach 1 dollar imo  :-[


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: jonybroker on August 02, 2014, 11:51:04 AM
It will not become like Bitcoin because of Supply.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Limpuls on August 02, 2014, 12:59:58 PM
Looks more that XMR, DRK, NXT going to get into second position under BTC. I mean these coins going replace LTC. But really not doge. Thats far to way.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: soulcity on August 02, 2014, 01:03:31 PM
Has any one mentioned that Doge has billions of coins vs millions for bitcoin?


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Limpuls on August 02, 2014, 01:06:53 PM
Has any one mentioned that Doge has billions of coins vs millions for bitcoin?

Yes, read one page back. However, can't wait so see what is going to happen in the crypto/alt world after 6months. Would be amazing if coins like doge, ripple and others shits be removed from market. BTC, DRK, NXT, XMR, XC will arrive


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: richardramirez9 on August 02, 2014, 02:16:37 PM
Too scared to invest on there.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Equate on August 02, 2014, 02:52:39 PM
So the question is simple will Dogecoin come to a stage like BTC has does? 600$ mark? Or even 100$  mark? What is the main difference in these coins?

Because of unlimited supply, dogecoin will ultimately become an inflationary currency. So no chance of it being bitcoin ever.

Unlimited supply of Doge and tons of alt-coins with many innovative features , so Doge is far behind from becoming a top altcoin let alone BTC.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Buffer Overflow on August 02, 2014, 03:13:19 PM
What is the main difference in these coins?

Doge is embrassing. Bitcoin is not.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Scharfenberger on August 02, 2014, 09:04:10 PM
The main difference is that DOGE is already dying and BTC will stay as Number 1 on coinmarketcap because of the popularity and its possibilities to affect the real markets worldwide.

Would be better to give the POS-coins the chance to come up.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: gustav on August 03, 2014, 12:50:31 AM
hilarious topic


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: UrsaMajorisBeta on August 03, 2014, 02:50:43 AM
So...what do you think about dogeparty?


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Coingrab on August 03, 2014, 03:02:20 AM
Dogecoin needs to close its open coin cap to even think to survive. 80 Billion coins is insane. even the miners are giving up on it. Too bad too because it has a great active community.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on August 03, 2014, 04:14:45 AM
Dogecoin needs to close its open coin cap to even think to survive. 80 Billion coins is insane. even the miners are giving up on it. Too bad too because it has a great active community.

A reformatting of the coin might eventually occur but the question is how they would divide its coinage
Anyways that's a discussion for the miners and the developers who want to fork it.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: BelieveTheHype on August 04, 2014, 05:14:43 PM
So...what do you think about dogeparty?

I'm for the dogeparty.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: BelieveTheHype on August 04, 2014, 05:18:35 PM
Dogecoin needs to close its open coin cap to even think to survive. 80 Billion coins is insane. even the miners are giving up on it. Too bad too because it has a great active community.

Totally agree with you dude.
I wonder how split the doge community might be on this issue.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: b!z on August 04, 2014, 05:26:58 PM
No, it's going to become the next Litecoin.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: aa on August 04, 2014, 05:38:54 PM
No, it's going to become the next Litecoin.
Not even close.

So the question is simple will Dogecoin come to a stage like BTC has does? 600$ mark? Or even 100$  mark? What is the main difference in these coins?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahah



PROTIP: Dogecoin is dead now that they've gone to merged mining. You think the price is bad now? It's going to get a lot worse.

At least Namecoin provides a unique service. Dogecoin has nothing.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: kotarius on August 04, 2014, 05:40:57 PM
Quote
[12:31] kotarius: there are 640gh of scrypt on ltc and 50gh of scrypt on doge
[12:31] mobomelter: damn is doge that low now
[12:32] kotarius: so (640-50)/640 = 92%
[12:32] kotarius: that means that 92% of doge will be mined by people who want LTC
[12:32] kyrio: exactly
[12:32] kotarius: then you look at the trading volumes on the markets
[12:33] kotarius: and figure out if they can sustain 590/50 = 11.8x increase in sell pressure


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Nullu on August 04, 2014, 05:48:46 PM
Merged mining will keep the blockchain moving, but they screwed up Doge by making it inflationary. Not so much that it's inflationary, but how inflationary it is. It's way too much.

Inflation isn't a bad model for cryptocurrency, in fact it makes a lot of sense. All the coins that get lost over time won't cause deflation and limited supply issues.

There are way too many Dogecoins in circulation, for Doge to have a value per coin of even $1 would mean the market cap would be 178 billion USD, over 23 times that of Bitcoin's current Market cap. As the currency continues hyperinflation, the value of each coin will decrease even more, meaning the chance of it even coming close to a mere fraction of Bitcoin's value is decreasing even further by the day.

Simply put, the downward pressure of inflation is way higher than the upward pressure of buyers. The coin will continue to decrease in value. It's not a matter of opinion. It's a matter of mathematics.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: andreasy on August 04, 2014, 06:28:04 PM
Is a joke??
Bitcoin is real, Dogecoin was a social moment.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: binkshurts on August 04, 2014, 06:38:12 PM
dogecoin is just a meme.



Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Nerazzura on August 04, 2014, 06:51:33 PM
Is a joke??
Bitcoin is real, Dogecoin was a social moment.
why do you say it like that, does not bitcoin also have social moment


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: moko666 on August 04, 2014, 07:37:17 PM
600$ or 100$
never

not even 10$ for dogecoin


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: BelieveTheHype on August 04, 2014, 08:58:21 PM
is the merging option being seriously considered by BOTH communities?
If someone has articles or other links to back up their opinion, that would be ideal (but not required, of course)


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: aa on August 04, 2014, 09:53:03 PM
is the merging option being seriously considered by BOTH communities?
If someone has articles or other links to back up their opinion, that would be ideal (but not required, of course)
Considered? Dogecoin devs are enabling merged mining--nothing more to it.


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: VeganCoind on August 04, 2014, 10:06:19 PM
So the question is simple will Dogecoin come to a stage like BTC has does? 600$ mark? Or even 100$  mark? What is the main difference in these coins?

the main difference is that bitcoin has been widely adopted and subject of intense speculation.

Dogecoin was adopted, but as a joke. It was never serious, then it tried to get serious but was stuck in a joke.

Dogecoin is probably finished, unless something very clever happens. As far as i know, all the main holders dumped from 200 down to 100, with the rest of the "community" dumping thereafter.

I can't see where Doge goes next because it's not funny and it offers no advantages that scryptcoins like Litecoin don't offer.

Sorry to Doge people, but it lookss like a "Dead Coin Walking" to me.

http://i59.tinypic.com/59sf1y.jpg


Title: Re: Will dogecoin become like Bitcoin?
Post by: Magic8Ball on August 04, 2014, 10:20:58 PM
Where is all the merge mining news? If its true, then its the end of Doge. It simply cannot sustain so many miners who will sell it anyway as they are basically getting it for free.