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Economy => Lending => Topic started by: BlackHeartFund on August 05, 2014, 08:40:26 PM



Title: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: BlackHeartFund on August 05, 2014, 08:40:26 PM
Seeking up to 2.5BTC to complete a large hardware purchase. I have over 20 BTC in Havelock investments but I have already sold everything that I can bring myself to unload right now. Will accept individual loans of as little as 0.5BTC.

Repayment date: August 19, 2014 (two weeks from today)

I presently have 11TH/s mining and receive dividends from a number of shares.

Please contact me if you would like to discuss identifying information or collateral.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: MoneyGod on August 05, 2014, 08:51:05 PM
Please read this may be its helpful for you about this loan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.0


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: deadley on August 05, 2014, 09:28:52 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=725554.0

Here you are buying upto 7 BTC, now you are asking loan of 2.5 BTC.
I am very confuse, either you don't need loan or your buying thread is fake.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: Tomatocage on August 05, 2014, 09:54:45 PM
I don't see any problems with this loan request. He has collateral in the form of assets in Havelock Investments. Unless I'm misinterpreting what Havelock is (and I very well may be), the greatest risk here is handing collateral over to a shady lender.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: escrow.dude on August 05, 2014, 09:59:39 PM
I don't see any problems with this loan request. He has collateral in the form of assets in Havelock Investments. Unless I'm misinterpreting what Havelock is (and I very well may be), the greatest risk here is handing collateral over to a shady lender.
As long as it is possible to transfer ownership of havelock investments then the loan should be acceptable. I have never used havelock so I am not sure, but a quick look at their website doesn't explicitly say it is possible, and it is hard to determine their account recovery policies (to make sure the OP can't contact havelock saying his account was hacked and have his account reverted back to him.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: BlackHeartFund on August 05, 2014, 10:04:21 PM
I don't see any problems with this loan request. He has collateral in the form of assets in Havelock Investments. Unless I'm misinterpreting what Havelock is (and I very well may be), the greatest risk here is handing collateral over to a shady lender.

Thank you for the advice, I would only transfer shares or other property to extremely reputable lenders, otherwise I would use escrow.

I have contacted Havelock to find if it is possible to transfer shares between accounts, I have never done this before.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: BlackHeartFund on August 05, 2014, 10:04:55 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=725554.0

Here you are buying upto 7 BTC, now you are asking loan of 2.5 BTC.
I am very confuse, either you don't need loan or your buying thread is fake.

Think harder.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: BlackHeartFund on August 05, 2014, 11:14:43 PM
I don't see any problems with this loan request. He has collateral in the form of assets in Havelock Investments. Unless I'm misinterpreting what Havelock is (and I very well may be), the greatest risk here is handing collateral over to a shady lender.

Thank you for the advice, I would only transfer shares or other property to extremely reputable lenders, otherwise I would use escrow.

I have contacted Havelock to find if it is possible to transfer shares between accounts, I have never done this before.

I will provide this loan contingent upon your ability to transfer ownership of those shares to me or an escrow.

I'm waiting to hear back from Havelock about transfering shares between accounts. Do you have an escrow in mind?


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: Window2Wall on August 05, 2014, 11:33:14 PM
I don't see any problems with this loan request. He has collateral in the form of assets in Havelock Investments. Unless I'm misinterpreting what Havelock is (and I very well may be), the greatest risk here is handing collateral over to a shady lender.

Thank you for the advice, I would only transfer shares or other property to extremely reputable lenders, otherwise I would use escrow.

I have contacted Havelock to find if it is possible to transfer shares between accounts, I have never done this before.

I will provide this loan contingent upon your ability to transfer ownership of those shares to me or an escrow.
Be sure to post details in this thread as I think the community would be interested in the outcome of the transaction. I am also curious as to how liquid the OP's shares are to protect the lender from a crash.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: haploid23 on August 05, 2014, 11:50:49 PM
For any potential lenders, I would first do some full research on Havelock as collateral. I've seen someone on the forum mention that havelock shares are not easily transferable. Someone else also requested a loan from me, also offering Havelock as collateral, however I refused it simply because I was familiar with Havelock, and had no desire to learn about it just to hold it as collateral.

So make sure you do your research on: 1) how easy it is to transfer back and forth, 2) how hard is it to be reversed, 3) how fast it can be sold in case of a default.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: monbux on August 06, 2014, 12:44:18 AM
I don't see any problems with this loan request. He has collateral in the form of assets in Havelock Investments. Unless I'm misinterpreting what Havelock is (and I very well may be), the greatest risk here is handing collateral over to a shady lender.

The spammers don't understand... They love posting :-/


@OP I can fund this loan partially, please PM me your collateral.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: justbtcme on August 06, 2014, 12:45:44 AM
I don't see any problems with this loan request. He has collateral in the form of assets in Havelock Investments. Unless I'm misinterpreting what Havelock is (and I very well may be), the greatest risk here is handing collateral over to a shady lender.

The spammers don't understand... They love posting :-/


@OP I can fund this loan partially, please PM me your collateral.


I'm willing to cover the rest of the loan if needed. Provided my above mentioned conditions are met.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: monbux on August 06, 2014, 12:46:06 AM
For any potential lenders, I would first do some full research on Havelock as collateral. I've seen someone on the forum mention that havelock shares are not easily transferable. Someone else also requested a loan from me, also offering Havelock as collateral, however I refused it simply because I was familiar with Havelock, and had no desire to learn about it just to hold it as collateral.

So make sure you do your research on: 1) how easy it is to transfer back and forth, 2) how hard is it to be reversed, 3) how fast it can be sold in case of a default.

Really?  I've accepted things like AM1 as collateral, it worked fine... I thought the shares were unrevesersable?


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: BlackHeartFund on August 06, 2014, 12:53:17 AM
Just heard back from them, Havelock shares can be easily and irreversably transfered between accounts. I only need the email for the account I am transfering to.

I have contacted a couple escrow providers to try and find one who will do it with these shares.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: nwfella on August 06, 2014, 03:21:46 AM
pm sent


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: BlackHeartFund on August 06, 2014, 03:58:45 AM
Hey thanks everyone who contributed to this thread and/or made offers, especially those of you I have worked out deals with.

I have nearly hit my 2.5BTC goal, but it looks like I may still be .3 or .35 BTC short. If anyone else wants to lend 0.35 and get 0.42 back on the 19th, please PM me tonight.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: justbtcme on August 06, 2014, 04:05:59 AM
Hey thanks everyone who contributed to this thread and/or made offers, especially those of you I have worked out deals with.

I have nearly hit my 2.5BTC goal, but it looks like I may still be .3 or .35 BTC short. If anyone else wants to lend 0.35 and get 0.42 back on the 19th, please PM me tonight.

Just to be clear, did you mean the 19th of this month or October?


I have lined up most of the loan already, only need another 0.35 to hit 2.5. If you want to do that I will repay 0.42 on the 19th of October.

My address: 1BwqeDf95A8rec76p7mtBp365AFdUERcaD


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: BlackHeartFund on August 06, 2014, 04:21:14 AM
Sorry bud getting tired, I meant to say August. Repayment will be on the 19th of August, 2014.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: justbtcme on August 06, 2014, 05:23:22 AM
Hey thanks everyone who contributed to this thread and/or made offers, especially those of you I have worked out deals with.

I have nearly hit my 2.5BTC goal, but it looks like I may still be .3 or .35 BTC short. If anyone else wants to lend 0.35 and get 0.42 back on the 19th, please PM me tonight.

Lenders, please post confirmation for sake of transparency.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: BlackHeartFund on August 06, 2014, 05:31:55 AM
As I said I'm not going to name the lenders until they give me permission, or post here themselves. They are welcome to do that, I would prefer it, but if they don't want to be named publicly that is their prerogative. The biggest single chunk of it will be completed in the morning, I will request that the lender post here. Same thing with those who provided .5, if they would like to post their tx ID and repayment address in this thread that would be ideal. If they want to keep their names out of these threads I have no problem with that either.

justbtcme I will assume that your .35 loan has been withdrawn for now, not a big problem and thanks for your time. I will check back in the morning and see what the situation is.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: monbux on August 06, 2014, 02:01:12 PM
BlackHeartFund and I have come to an agreement. 0.95 BTC will be loaned to help for repayment on august 19 with 15% interest.   The collateral will be 5 x AM1 shares.  In the unlikelyhood of the total share value dropping below 110% of the initial loaned ampunt , blackheartfund will be requested to provide additional shares (Asicminer shares really love jumping around)

Late repayment will be an additional 1% per day late, up to seven days.  After that, the full collateral will be liquidated and all partial funds (if any) will be kept.  I doubt we would have a late repayment for this though :)

Anyways, I've PMed you my email, waiting in the transfer.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: byt411 on August 06, 2014, 02:18:31 PM
BlackHeartFund and I have come to an agreement. 0.95 BTC will be loaned to help for repayment on august 19 with 15% interest.   The collateral will be 5 x AM1 shares.  In the unlikelyhood of the total share value dropping below 110% of the initial loaned ampunt , blackheartfund will be requested to provide additional shares (Asicminer shares really love jumping around)

Late repayment will be an additional 1% per day late, up to seven days.  After that, the full collateral will be liquidated and all partial funds (if any) will be kept.  I doubt we would have a late repayment for this though :)

Anyways, I've PMed you my email, waiting in the transfer.

So... is any more needed? I can fund the remaining 0.35BTC if it's remaining.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: ericrw14 on August 06, 2014, 02:54:23 PM
I have loaned BlackHeartFund 0.5 btc for a repayment of 0.6btc on the 19th of august

https://blockchain.info/tx/26e996e3fb047d43fc377953c3c3a3021d515b40de12997a35e6060c7d5941c0


Repayment will be to the address that sent the funds 12AxrmvfjybTnyxDfTGkJXJAq78Jr62Wxf


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: monbux on August 06, 2014, 10:30:30 PM
Still waiting, received no further PMs so far.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: justbtcme on August 07, 2014, 09:19:44 PM
Still waiting, received no further PMs so far.

OP said you gave him the loan. Can you confirm this?


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: monbux on August 07, 2014, 09:38:20 PM
Still waiting, received no further PMs so far.

OP said you gave him the loan. Can you confirm this?

I am giving him a loan of 0.95 BTC...  he said there was a problem with havelock, so he is contacting them now.  After the collateral has been transfered I'll post here, then send the payment.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: justbtcme on August 08, 2014, 03:12:23 AM
After a little bit of digging around, I notice that OP had been MIA for most of Dec. 2012 - August 2014.

He reappears and ask for loans. There is a possibility this account could have previous owners.

 Just posting for the sake of transparency. Not accusing anyone here. Lend at your own risk.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: Tomatocage on August 08, 2014, 04:15:01 AM
After a little bit of digging around, I notice that OP had been MIA for most of Dec. 2012 - August 2014.

He reappears and ask for loans. There is a possibility this account could have previous owners.

 Just posting for the sake of transparency. Not accusing anyone here. Lend at your own risk.

Yeah, I noticed that too, but as long as he provides collateral it's not a big deal. Just make sure he sends collateral first, not the other way around.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: Tomatocage on August 08, 2014, 04:16:27 AM
I have loaned BlackHeartFund 0.5 btc for a repayment of 0.6btc on the 19th of august

https://blockchain.info/tx/26e996e3fb047d43fc377953c3c3a3021d515b40de12997a35e6060c7d5941c0


Repayment will be to the address that sent the funds 12AxrmvfjybTnyxDfTGkJXJAq78Jr62Wxf

Did he provide you with collateral?


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: justbtcme on August 08, 2014, 04:26:14 AM
After a little bit of digging around, I notice that OP had been MIA for most of Dec. 2012 - August 2014.

He reappears and ask for loans. There is a possibility this account could have previous owners.

 Just posting for the sake of transparency. Not accusing anyone here. Lend at your own risk.

Just found out you can get a lot of neg trust by pointing out potential scammers. It's kind of fun actually  :D


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: Tomatocage on August 08, 2014, 05:34:46 AM
Just found out you can get a lot of neg trust by pointing out potential scammers. It's kind of fun actually  :D

That's abuse of the trust system IMHO. Who threatened you with negative trust?


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: justbtcme on August 08, 2014, 05:37:06 AM
Just found out you can get a lot of neg trust by pointing out potential scammers. It's kind of fun actually  :D

That's abuse of the trust system IMHO. Who threatened you with negative trust?

None other than the OP. He just mad or just got caught  :D


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: Tomatocage on August 08, 2014, 06:30:45 AM
I see that he left you negative trust for an unrelated reason. In fact BHF's reason is similar to why I had left you negative trust earlier, before I rescinded the rating. So while it may not be warranted, it's understandable.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: justbtcme on August 08, 2014, 06:43:29 AM
I see that he left you negative trust for an unrelated reason. In fact BHF's reason is similar to why I had left you negative trust earlier, before I rescinded the rating. So while it may not be warranted, it's understandable.

You are very reasonable in your judgement. I will follow your example and remove neg for this guy. He has not defaulted on a loan yet so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, this time.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on August 08, 2014, 06:46:30 AM
After a little bit of digging around, I notice that OP had been MIA for most of Dec. 2012 - August 2014.

He reappears and ask for loans. There is a possibility this account could have previous owners.

 Just posting for the sake of transparency. Not accusing anyone here. Lend at your own risk.

That happened to my old account. It got hacked, dissapeared for a while and was used 6 months later to scam someone. I contacted that account and he told me there was a huge list of BTCtalk accounts available on the deepweb.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: bigtimespaghetti on August 08, 2014, 08:30:37 AM
PMd. Happy to provide remainder of 0.35 with collateral. Waiting to hear back.


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: justbtcme on August 08, 2014, 09:38:48 AM
So... is any more needed? I can fund the remaining 0.35BTC if it's remaining.
Still waiting, received no further PMs so far.
Still waiting, received no further PMs so far.
OP said you gave him the loan. Can you confirm this?
I am giving him a loan of 0.95 BTC...  he said there was a problem with havelock, so he is contacting them now.  After the collateral has been transfered I'll post here, then send the payment.
PMd. Happy to provide remainder of 0.35 with collateral. Waiting to hear back.
The four other people who have combined to cover this loan are ericrw14, monbux,......., and ........ The last two have not posted in the thread like I requested, so please do not publish their names publicly in connection to this----


Lots of offers going around, hope all goes well !


Title: Re: Seeking 2.5 BTC loan. Will repay 3 BTC in 14 days.
Post by: monbux on August 09, 2014, 05:01:31 AM
No, in the end, I did not loan this user.  I believe my loan was the only "secured" loan with Havelock shares as collateral.  OP claims that there was a problem when he tried to send the shares, and in the end he decide to sell the shares to cover for the 0.95 BTC I was supposed to lend him.