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Talking point, guys! What do you say to the people who complain about how space flight never did anything to benefit them while they tune in to the weather report? This is kinda my answer: Why I Support Mars Colonization (http://bitcoinonmars.com/blog/why-do-i-support-mars-colonization/)

it would be funnie if there was a pizza place on mars, and you told them i traveled 225 million miles just for a slice

I think everyone supports it because of scifi movies that were super cool and full of lasers., so mars = lasers for everyone? Also everyone knows its full of mars gold :D

Yes, but they support it for the wrong reasons!
Mars can become our alternative place to live, human's shelter in the event of the destruction of the planet earth.

We will need to do this soon before we all fight each other into extinction over space and resources.

https://what-if.xkcd.com/7/

Living only on planet Earth is like putting all our eggs in one basket. Imagine a global catastrophe like solar storm, viral/bacterial epidemic, asteroid,  super volcano can easily wipe the humankind. If humankind are dispersed in our solar system and beyond we have a high chance of survival for another million years. But sadly most of us don't think about this.

The earth is overpopulated as it is. Mars colonization is the only way forward right now :)

I think we will encounter so many problems we can't even imagine right now. Imagine for example the far distance (which people already know about). You can't even conduct a telephone call over that distance without a severe delay!!! The Internet Protocol as we know it wouldn't work as well. Sites would need minutes or hours to load, since back & forward communication is required for that!

That is true. There are far too many people who don't even plan their lives beyond their next paycheck and I include the ones who don't live at the subsistence level or below. You know the ones who get paid on Friday and then blow half of it on a weekend of partying. These are the ones I don't waste a lot of time trying to convince them that space travel can actually be worth it in their daily lives. I just tell them, "Dude there's this really cool reality show in the works. It's called Mars One. Watch it when it hits the airwaves." Then at least Mars One can get the advertising bucks that come with reaching a lot of people.


So anyone with no life who spends all his/her time on the Internet will obviously be unhappy on Mars. The rest of us aspiring Martians will probably spend most of our time working and maybe check our email (which will probably be cached on a server, BTW) when we have a few free minutes in a row before hitting the sack.

I don't know about Mars colonisation personally I think the idea is ridiculous and expensive, moon possibly, because of the water that's been found there and how it's pretty close to earth in comparison, what we need to find is a planet that has breathable atmosphere, once we do that, particularly if we find an absolutely massive planet, we can spread our population out and resources won't be as scarce as they are now.

The trick is getting the hang of space flight.

Mars has a relatively small surface area compared to earth, so we may not actually be able to relocate that many people over there. But it may be a very interesting proving ground for further space exploration or even deep space exploration. Also, it may be an interesting 'checkpoint' for vessels on their way out of our solar system!

There is no technology in place to terraform another planet.

I support using bitcoins in Mars.  ;D

Moon has only 1/6 of the gravity of Earth Mars has 2/3. Living long time on Moon can possibly affect our bone mass and muscles. We don't need to actually live in the surface of Mars. For the Mars pioneers can live safely underground airtight. We can plant trees and crops underground. Mars has a lot of water underground in the polar regions I think it has all the minerals we need.

Mars relatively weak gravity compared to earth and its proximity near the asteroid belt can make it a hub for asteroid mining. Asteroid mining will be the greatest industries in the future.

In the far future we actually don't need planets to live. We can make rotating space habitat/ship that could as big as the moon. It would be same gravity as earth and with out the nasty weather and unpredictable earthquakes. And we can move it anywhere we like.

Mars has as much dry land (well, dry land that might contain frozen water but think of it as the Arctic Circle without the glaciers, a thinner atmosphere, and if you get thirsty while out on the Martian tundra, you could throw up a tent-like affair to extract water) as all the Earth continents put together. Considering the fact that all 7 billion plus humans fit onto the dry land on Earth, you should be able to move half of us to Mars and still have enough room for major industrial and agricultural interests. And you are right about possibly being a "checkpoint" for spacecraft. Possibly even a full fledged spaceport and a world where one of the major exports is newly built spacecraft.

If you flee to another planet in an attempt to solve a problem - in actuality, you are only running from the problem, which is you.  Us.

If we change ourselves we can change the world.  If you take your toxic habits to another planet you are jut further contaminating the universe.

The only way to solve problems is to confront them head on.  Evading them gets you nowhere.

it's not evading, it's called diversifyng

read this

http://www.cracked.com/article_19117_7-horrible-ways-universe-can-destroy-us-without-warning.html

and tell me it's good for humanity to live on only one planet

1st step

more planets

2nd step

outside the solar system

3rd step

outside Milky Way

this is the path that leads humanity to survival, not trying to battle gamma rays, because that  shit will kill you

and I don't think it will ever be possible to block such a thing

mars is boring, better to colonize planet like kepler(20b, namek style lol), we just need a better technlogy

http://d1jqu7g1y74ds1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/kepler-20-system.jpg

that's too distant future

we should focus on something that's more achievable, like Mars for instance

Colonizing planets is a short term bandaid.  The real solution is to acheive multidimensional travel, which only takes you.

No matter where you go, you will be subjected to death unless you find immortality and ascend beyond this physical plane and into the next dimension.

That is the only true solution.  The problem lies within humanity's quench of negativity - fear.  No matter where you run, if you are running in fear you are not solving the problem - which is to confront your fears of the unknown head on.  Only once you can do that can you realize that negativity is a limitation you are manifesting yourself.  If we stop manifesting ego then there is no need to survive, only live.

There is not only one internet protocol. Use UDP + aplication error checking, or something like that, plust good caching.

Just don't expect do skype videoconferences or watch high quality porn from mars


And reason to go to mars: Sun will blow up and all solar system will be gone in some billion of years, so we need to start a retreat plan, because we don't know how hard is reach other stars, or if it is even possible. And as hard as it sounds, it still easier than try to extend sun's life time

But how is that possible? I mean rockets and different kinds of propulsion are possible and will get us to other planets and maybe even planetary systems! But multidimensional travel with your own body? How do you propose that works?

he's dank, he ain't proposing anything except horseshit

Ignore Dank. He's the kind of person I hate arguing with. And besides, none of the (serious) proponents of colonizing other planets are really running from anything. We know humanity is never going to be perfect. We just want to give the best of humanity a chance to survive even if it means moving to a planet that looks hostile at first glance.

mars real colonization is too far away anyway, we  wont be there so who care

are we not going to do something with that Moon of ours?

Do not really see the charm in going and staying there. When Bitcoin gets big I might take a trip to spave, but thats it.
Much prefer sitting here on my ass and ordering everything online.

You should reduce your dosage sir, it's getting to you.
I'm always been a supporter of Colonization and future Space travel, sadly I'm pretty sure that I won't live to see it/experience it.
Humans do have a short lifespan if you ask me.

Thank you sir.  I truly appreciate that you seek to understand rather than just throwing stones at what seems impossible.

The true nature of reality is that we are spiritual (conscious, intelligent) beings dwelling within a human body, a vehicle if you will.  We have the power to do anything and everything we can imagine, if we can just believe it into reality.  Physics can be defied, we truly are the creators of the world around us.  Our beliefs manifest our reality.  Believe in gravity, it exists, believe in death, it exists.

We can transcend the negative energy that makes us human by harnessing the power of a positive feedback loop.  The power of love is infinite, it only takes one large scale feedback loop to invert the poles within our minds and unlock our full potential.

Through a mass scale, synchronized dose of LSD, we can combine and sync our energies beyond any level of doubt.  The music I play, from the soul, will be felt within the crowd, and as I will also feel their energy, it will further increase the power of my soul, belief.  So in the last moments before the ascension to the fifth dimension, I will be getting exponentially better at guitar, powering the positive feedback loop that will have no end.

I have already experienced levitation on two occurrences.  With a crowd of a million in front of me at the music festival I have envisioned for so long, it would be hard for me to not believe I could levitate.  At the moment of singularity, I will begin levitating.  One by one, other humans in the audience will reach singularity and lift into the air.  As more people start to rise, more will follow, exponentially.

When you see another human take flight into the air, that you have synchronized energies with, it doesn't take much for you to will the same.

Those who attend the Ascension Festival will become fifth dimensional beings, where life truly is infinite and you are only limited by the power of your imagination.

You can always return to the lower dimensional world if you will so, but there is not much of a reason to unless you're helping others ascend as I am doing.  Life in heaven is never dull.  Infinite love, infinite peace, infinite control.  Feel negativity if you want, but at the perfect amount of control that you are still connected to the higher planes of reality.  Your mind will reach is full potential.

If your mind can create an image and feeling of you levitating, flying, teleporting - all of which I have experienced multiple times - in dreams, then it can do the same in an awaken state.  Life is but a dream.  Let's turn this nightmare into the dream it was made to be.

Aliens (gods) did not become aliens from nothing.  UFO's don't vanish into thin air for no reason.

Those that call me crazy, that is fine, you are speaking for your own disconnection and misunderstanding of what I am saying, not mine.  Your lack of understanding only holds you back from the higher dimension, it does not hold me back.

Again, thank you for seeking rather than attacking.  It's been a while since this community has done that.

Oh, the excitement at the thought of being the first person to die on Mars !!!

:)

Mars is the way forward but on earth we still havent built upwards or on the sea, also as technology improves living in deserts with air con and water supply will be more realistic.

That's actually a labour problem more than anything else.  It's already possible to live in the desert - it's called living underground or pitching a tent near a water source.  It also an economic issue - nobody wants to be impoverished in the desert so they'ld need jobs.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coober_Pedy

Coober Pedy could be the world's first underground city due to necessity.  If the Australians extract the oil near by then it's hypothetically possible you could have 50K people living in underground caverns.  It's an interesting town as it is and it could be bigger in the future.

It wasn't so funny for the guy who paid 10,000 bitcoins for a pizza.

:)

Nobody knows that the earth is millions of years old. There are alternate explanations for the scientific observations that suggest how old the earth is. The earth may be relatively young. Bible witnesses say about 6,000 years. NO science has any provable evidence for anything past the previous 5,000 years or so.

Go to Mars if you like. Probably man was meant to traverse the Universe at some time. But things are not as they should be since the time that mistakes entered the Universe, and man started dying. So, it won't be easy. Even with modern technology, it will probably be a lot harder than it was for Columbus to cross the Atlantic Ocean.

:)

Most people don't think beyond what they're going to eat for dinner tomorrow.

Colonizing Mars won't reduce population numbers on earth.  We need a natural disaster to cull a good number of us for the rest to survive.

The population density in most of the world is much less then what it is in the most dense cities. Most of the world's food production capacity is unused. We have a long way to go before we need to start cutting down our population.

The amount of pollution in the ocean around our major river outlets (wish I could find an image) shows me we are overusing earth's capacity to grow food, and the third world countries will keep developing even if we cut down on our birth rates.

You want everyone on earth to have an equal share of her remaining resources?  Wealth should/will entitle one to get more than people who live off the government and contribute nothing.  If someone has to die first, it should be the ones who scam and/or don't contribute to their society.

On the other hand, the earth is quite big. Consider this. You could take the whole population of the United States (about 330 million) and comfortably settle them on 6,000 square miles of land. That would leave you several million square miles of United States land for you to use to farm, mine, and manufacture, and whatever else you might want to do with the land. Dig up the numbers, think about it, and you will see that this is so. Pollution calculations might be inflated and grossly misused by those who want to manipulate the thinking of the population for their own greedy purposes.

:)

Ha, wow never thought of that! Do you think there might even be a race or contest to become that very person? You'd definitely have your place in the history books. But I think it's more attractive to become the first person on mars of perhaps the first one to maintain a long-term post there!

Why not? You gotta go sometime. Why not become the first to die on Mars? even if you have to go a little sooner than you would otherwise.

The dangers and unsurenesses and complicatednesses of the whole Mars project are so great, that to have any kind of real success at all, one need hold this dying as a goal attitude, just to make the thing successful.

:)

btc for mars currency

But wouldn't it be enough to be the first person who did other things on Mars? Maybe eat ice cream? Do an Elvis impersonation? Or have sex? Those are also things that are worthy of a mention in the history books, if you ask me!

Dead serious tho, BTC should be the currency to use on there.

But why? The same BTC we use on earth? The same network? Have you thought about the time it takes light, and thus information, to travel from Earth to Mars or, the other way around? It would make BTC transactions difficult, and mining very unprofitable!

The excitament at the tought of being the first person to public a BitcoinTalk post on Mars!!!

Any place left in the Mars one mission?

I'd like to be the first who celebrates some kick-ass party on Mars! Hahaha, I mean NO ONE has done that before and parties are the shit! Love them! Do you think there really are no people on Mars? I could use a nice hot green lady from the Cydonia region, hahahaha!