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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: MadeInUkraine on August 09, 2014, 11:00:58 AM



Title: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: MadeInUkraine on August 09, 2014, 11:00:58 AM
Yesterday we had 250 pages in the status of "Pending".
250 pages x 20 lines/page x 0.00000050 BTC = 0.00250000 BTC.

Today we have only 40 pages in the status of "Pending".
40 pages x 20 lines/page x 0.00000050 BTC = 0.00040000 BTC.

Difference: 0.00250000 BTC - 0.00040000 BTC = 0.00210000 BTC.

August 9, 2014, 07:59 Earning Interstitial ads - 0.00022906 BTC.

If 0.00022906 BTC / 0.00000050 BTC / 20 lines/page = 22 pages.

Result: 250 pages - 40 pages (in Pending) - 22 pages (Paid) = 180 pages disappeared.

180 pages x 20 lines/page x 0.00000050 BTC = 0.00180000 BTC underpaid.

Why? It's not normal ... SCAM?

Also I tried contacting support but it's dead silence from them...


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: Fortify on August 09, 2014, 11:55:49 AM
You are talking about such small and trivial amounts, yet try to ruin a company by calling them a scam. I have used them for a couple months now, been paid out around a hundred times. You should stop fretting over individual page counts and start producing more content.


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: MadeInUkraine on August 09, 2014, 12:02:41 PM
Our individual content is more than 5000 pages ...

Feel the difference: 27.07.2014, 23:01 - 0.00363502 BTC and 09.08.2014, 07:59 - 0.00022906 BTC ...


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: Fortify on August 09, 2014, 12:06:51 PM
I have noticed a small discrepancy, between the reported daily earnings and the final result calculated. However, I find it is a small price to pay when you get the highest paying, quickest payouts and widest range of advertisers on any bitcoin ad network. Anon-Ads used to be better, until it nosedived by recategorizing all sites. They are supporting a lot of publishers I imagine.

Long term, the amount people will pay for clicks will fall as more people display their adverts. That has already started to happen, so you need to bring the traffic level of your site up to compete.


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: MadeInUkraine on August 09, 2014, 12:17:20 PM
Problem is with 180 pages, that just disappeared. Yesterday they were, but now they do not have. This is BIG problem.
Yesterday in pagination more than 2000 pages, today only 1756 (https://coinurl.com/profile-clicks.php?page=1756) where else?


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: Fortify on August 09, 2014, 12:22:50 PM
Running an ad network of that scale must take a lot of time and energy. Imagine having to juggle your site and then 5,000 others. Maybe they did you a favour at the start and just waived through all your publishers slots. Since then, they have gone through in more detail and chosen to remove some that they feel are low quality. It would of been nice had they contacted you, but time can be limited. If it's only one batch, one time, then it seems like you should keep focus on creating more quality content.


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: MadeInUkraine on August 09, 2014, 12:31:27 PM
If click is low quality - need to write "Declined" etc. And the loss of tens and hundreds of pages - it is quite another.
And why support is silent?


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: MultipliedCombo on August 09, 2014, 03:48:11 PM
They're only small amounts. Nothing to worry about that much. At least you're getting something.

Don't expect support to reply instantly. Wait it out for some time.


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: MadeInUkraine on August 09, 2014, 03:57:43 PM
small amounts * several days = big amounts

Example:

180 pages per 7 days = 1260 pages

1260 pages * 20 * 0.00000050 BTC = 0.01260000 BTC = 7.44 USD - only from one user.

Nice economy...

It is a matter of principle, not money.


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: tuanvie on August 19, 2014, 03:52:23 PM
http://s28.postimg.org/3jp7mzq71/image.png

whether coinurl pay?
I've been getting the results that much, but it does not seem get into my account


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: BitcoinBarrel on August 20, 2014, 02:52:18 PM
The earnings usually update into your balance every couple days.


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: apsvinet on August 23, 2014, 11:36:24 PM
Yep it's a scam, there are threads about it everywhere on bitcointalk.
Just do some google and they are all over the place.
No, newbie idiot, it's not a scam because people fail to understand how they work and post their own crybaby threads all over the forum. The 'pending' payments aren't confirmed and there is no guarantee that they are valid views that follow the rules of the service in such a way that would result in you getting paid. They're reviewed and if something seems sketchy about the hit you will not get paid, simple as that.


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: apsvinet on August 25, 2014, 05:56:55 PM
Yep it's a scam, there are threads about it everywhere on bitcointalk.
Just do some google and they are all over the place.
No, newbie idiot, it's not a scam because people fail to understand how they work and post their own crybaby threads all over the forum. The 'pending' payments aren't confirmed and there is no guarantee that they are valid views that follow the rules of the service in such a way that would result in you getting paid. They're reviewed and if something seems sketchy about the hit you will not get paid, simple as that.


I contacted them, the site is run by a french goofball and couple Russians. You're a god damn retard either way.
Insults won't get you anywhere.

Here's the deal.

I use their service - I'm happy with it.
If you aren't - don't use it. Adfly works if you want link shorteners that pays in USD.

Bottom line it's their service they can do whatever the hell they want, as much as you can chose not to use their service.


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: BitCoinDream on August 25, 2014, 05:58:12 PM
Yesterday we had 250 pages in the status of "Pending".
250 pages x 20 lines/page x 0.00000050 BTC = 0.00250000 BTC.

Today we have only 40 pages in the status of "Pending".
40 pages x 20 lines/page x 0.00000050 BTC = 0.00040000 BTC.

Difference: 0.00250000 BTC - 0.00040000 BTC = 0.00210000 BTC.

August 9, 2014, 07:59 Earning Interstitial ads - 0.00022906 BTC.

If 0.00022906 BTC / 0.00000050 BTC / 20 lines/page = 22 pages.

Result: 250 pages - 40 pages (in Pending) - 22 pages (Paid) = 180 pages disappeared.

180 pages x 20 lines/page x 0.00000050 BTC = 0.00180000 BTC underpaid.

Why? It's not normal ... SCAM?

Also I tried contacting support but it's dead silence from them...

Cant say if they are scam or not. But they are very bad for web publishers. I stopped using them at the end of 2013 and shifted to a-ads.com. a-ads offer a far decent service IMO.


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: Fortify on August 25, 2014, 08:10:25 PM
Well if you act like a retard you're gonna get called a retard, retard.

No need for any of that. Have you ever actually used the service or just going on what you've found on google? Actually love all these people calling them a scam, not because it's true, but because it means that our competition won't earn the money. Never used the URL shorten feature and it seems that a lot of the complaints stem from that. Frankly, they should get rid of the URL shortener because the people trying to earn money from it are scraping the bottom of the barrel.


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: apsvinet on August 26, 2014, 03:51:36 PM
Yep it's a scam, there are threads about it everywhere on bitcointalk.
Just do some google and they are all over the place.
No, newbie idiot, it's not a scam because people fail to understand how they work and post their own crybaby threads all over the forum. The 'pending' payments aren't confirmed and there is no guarantee that they are valid views that follow the rules of the service in such a way that would result in you getting paid. They're reviewed and if something seems sketchy about the hit you will not get paid, simple as that.


I contacted them, the site is run by a french goofball and couple Russians. You're a god damn retard either way.
Insults won't get you anywhere.

Here's the deal.

I use their service - I'm happy with it.
If you aren't - don't use it. Adfly works if you want link shorteners that pays in USD.

Bottom line it's their service they can do whatever the hell they want, as much as you can chose not to use their service.


Well if you act like a retard you're gonna get called a retard, retard.
I'm acting like a retard based on that if you don't like the service you don't have to use it?
Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.



Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: apsvinet on August 26, 2014, 07:56:39 PM
Yep it's a scam, there are threads about it everywhere on bitcointalk.
Just do some google and they are all over the place.
No, newbie idiot, it's not a scam because people fail to understand how they work and post their own crybaby threads all over the forum. The 'pending' payments aren't confirmed and there is no guarantee that they are valid views that follow the rules of the service in such a way that would result in you getting paid. They're reviewed and if something seems sketchy about the hit you will not get paid, simple as that.


I contacted them, the site is run by a french goofball and couple Russians. You're a god damn retard either way.
Insults won't get you anywhere.

Here's the deal.

I use their service - I'm happy with it.
If you aren't - don't use it. Adfly works if you want link shorteners that pays in USD.

Bottom line it's their service they can do whatever the hell they want, as much as you can chose not to use their service.


Well if you act like a retard you're gonna get called a retard, retard.
I'm acting like a retard based on that if you don't like the service you don't have to use it?
Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.



No you acted  retarded by calling me an idiot, and then you acted more retarded when I called you a retard, and now you're acting even more retarded failing to recognize why I call you a retard, which proves my initial point.
That you're a god damn retard, retard.
Don't get me wrong, if you weren't acting like an idiot I wouldn't have called you one.
The whole point was that you spewed out false accusations with no sources of arguments to provide a solid ground for your statements, all with a newbie account and no credibility.

Spreading false facts on the internet just because you're butthurt?
That's what I call an idiot. :)


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: apsvinet on August 27, 2014, 11:00:58 AM
Yep it's a scam, there are threads about it everywhere on bitcointalk.
Just do some google and they are all over the place.
Bolded up the false information where you failed to provide sources or arguments to provide a ground for the statement.

You know, just to clarify. :)


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: roparker2014 on September 02, 2014, 09:54:09 PM
I have just sent a support ticket, hopefully this will be addressed soon.
I am getting very large discrepancies between the amount of clicks it tells me I've received, and the amount of BTC I'm being paid.
For example for the last 3 days coinURL has told me I have received 5k+ clicks and earned around 0.008 per day, however my balance has only been increasing by around 0.002 BTC. I've screen grabbed it all and told coinurl support I can send them the grabs. I know I am not using click farms or anything, and all of my links are genuine. So hoping this will get resolved soon - it seems I should be able to use coinURL quite profitably, as long as I am actually paid what I am earning.

Funnily enough the other thread about CoinURL where I raised this issue previously, seems to have been deleted?


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: veleten on September 19, 2014, 02:14:11 PM
have they even paid anyone recently?
after all the owner changes and tariff changes etc.
also almost 90% is bot or a/s traffic, so what advertiser in his right mind would spend big on such campaigns?


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: Fortify on September 19, 2014, 02:37:07 PM
have they even paid anyone recently?
after all the owner changes and tariff changes etc.
also almost 90% is bot or a/s traffic, so what advertiser in his right mind would spend big on such campaigns?

I got paid out for accumulated earnings just yesterday. Have you done advertising with them to make that statement on traffic quality?


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: roparker2014 on September 19, 2014, 08:31:11 PM
Yes I am getting regular payment, still not matching the amount it is reporting I am earning though (as detailed above). Admin is apparently working on it but not heard anything for a week or so.


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: SNYPERUL on February 17, 2015, 10:10:19 PM
Payng this site ???


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: mayax on February 18, 2015, 11:42:05 PM
Yes I am getting regular payment, still not matching the amount it is reporting I am earning though (as detailed above). Admin is apparently working on it but not heard anything for a week or so.

then why this question "scam"? :)


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: roparker2014 on February 21, 2015, 06:34:52 PM
I did not write the title it isn't my thread  ;)
I do not think it is a scam. It pays me regularly, however it pays far below the amount I should be getting (according to its own metrics). I am looking for somewhere else to move my 1,000 - 10,000 clicks per day.



Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: erwin45hacked on February 21, 2015, 07:12:21 PM
I did not write the title it isn't my thread  ;)
I do not think it is a scam. It pays me regularly, however it pays far below the amount I should be getting (according to its own metrics). I am looking for somewhere else to move my 1,000 - 10,000 clicks per day.



instead of posting here, have you contacted their support yet about this problem ?


Title: Re: Coinurl - SCAM?
Post by: roparker2014 on February 22, 2015, 01:53:15 PM
I did not write the title it isn't my thread  ;)
I do not think it is a scam. It pays me regularly, however it pays far below the amount I should be getting (according to its own metrics). I am looking for somewhere else to move my 1,000 - 10,000 clicks per day.



instead of posting here, have you contacted their support yet about this problem ?

Yes of course. The only reason I posted here at all was because I got no answer from support.
Also if there is a problem then posting here will be helpful to others.

When I checked the site today, it appears my balance has been reduced to zero! (I only had about 0.06 or something in there I think, as I withdrew everything else a few days ago).

Definitely something up with the service at the moment, it isn't running as it should.