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Economy => Economics => Topic started by: noviapriani on August 11, 2014, 09:23:56 AM



Title: Tax crew:Is Not-for-profit rental a"property held for the production of income"?
Post by: noviapriani on August 11, 2014, 09:23:56 AM
Technically a not for profit rental does generate some income, though the net income is negative after all the deductions. So does that make it a property held for the production of income (in Federal income tax context)?


Title: Re: Tax crew:Is Not-for-profit rental a"property held for the production of income"?
Post by: sana8410 on August 11, 2014, 09:35:08 AM
Can you clarify on what you mean by a "not for profit rental".


Title: Re: Tax crew:Is Not-for-profit rental a"property held for the production of income"?
Post by: noviapriani on August 11, 2014, 09:38:11 AM
Can you clarify on what you mean by a "not for profit rental".
You rent without the intention of making profit. The loss caused by the rental that you are allowed to deduct is limited to the income from it. You can't deduct excess loss against your main income.
Its a classification by the irs


Title: Re: Tax crew:Is Not-for-profit rental a"property held for the production of income"?
Post by: umair127 on August 11, 2014, 09:53:05 AM
Can you clarify on what you mean by a "not for profit rental".
You rent without the intention of making profit. The loss caused by the rental that you are allowed to deduct is limited to the income from it. You can't deduct excess loss against your main income.
Its a classification by the irs
I don't think he was asking you to write a definition. I think he was asking you what possible use you would have for that classification. It doesn't have a lot of application to the average person. Why would you be considering using it?


Title: Re: Tax crew:Is Not-for-profit rental a"property held for the production of income"?
Post by: Mobius on August 13, 2014, 05:36:36 AM
If you have a rental property that generates negative income then the property itself would not be treated any differently then if the property was profitable for you. The only real difference is that you would have made a bad investment.


Title: Re: Tax crew:Is Not-for-profit rental a"property held for the production of income"?
Post by: Rigon on August 13, 2014, 10:48:18 AM
If you do not have a net profit from rents in 3 out of the last 5 years, then the property is presumed to be rented not for profit. In that case, you cannot offset excess losses against other income--only income from the property. You should see a tax professional, though, if you have questions.


Title: Re: Tax crew:Is Not-for-profit rental a"property held for the production of income"?
Post by: zolace on August 13, 2014, 10:56:32 AM
I'm not a tax / law guy, but just economically speaking if you are paying yourself a salary then you are receiving income from the properties. Profit and income are two different economic concepts.


Title: Re: Tax crew:Is Not-for-profit rental a"property held for the production of income"?
Post by: Fray on August 14, 2014, 04:29:51 AM
If you do not have a net profit from rents in 3 out of the last 5 years, then the property is presumed to be rented not for profit. In that case, you cannot offset excess losses against other income--only income from the property. You should see a tax professional, though, if you have questions.
This doesn't sound right to me. It sounds like what you are saying is that if you make a bad investment decision then you will be penalized by the IRS by not being able to apply losses against your other gains.