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Title: Antivirus programs.
Post by: Holdaaja on August 14, 2014, 07:29:33 PM
My free Avast and Norton have stopped working now :/

I'm installing Malwarebytes now and I'm going to download Kaspersky too.
Should I be safe enough with these two?

Are these the official sites to download them safely?
https://www.malwarebytes.org/
http://www.kaspersky.com/

Connection to http://www.kaspersky.com/ doesn't have "confirmed identity" so I would like to get confirmation about this is the real site.

Edit:

Looks like I really needed it :-[
https://i.imgur.com/7aXTEum.png


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: Holdaaja on August 14, 2014, 08:22:43 PM
Or don't use windows? I mean seriously, why do you even use it?

Because linux is horrible to use IMO and I like windows.
And there is viruses for other os too.


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: Brewins on August 14, 2014, 08:52:05 PM
You are never safe.

Remember that and you will be safer


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: 1Referee on August 14, 2014, 09:05:37 PM
I'm using free version of Avira, and it works perfectly fine for me. I use it now 5 years, and still happy!

You should give it a try, very light, nearly no impact on your system.

Of course, be careful with what you download as well :)


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: blumangroup on August 14, 2014, 09:41:28 PM
I'm using free version of Avira, and it works perfectly fine for me. I use it now 5 years, and still happy!

You should give it a try, very light, nearly no impact on your system.

Of course, be careful with what you download as well :)

I second that. I switched to Avast recently, but I started out with Avira and had it for like 5 years. Seriously great stuff.


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: MakeBelieve on August 14, 2014, 10:24:01 PM
I would just use a free solution and not pay for one because they all pretty much do the same thing warn you about possible virus.


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: hlynur on August 15, 2014, 05:38:36 AM
I always stick with browser plugins like ghostery/noscript.
malwarebytes & spybot S&D + ccleaner to keep system in shape (all free).
from my experience a virus always needs a careless user to execute it.
be cautious with download sources, email attachments and external storages esp usb sticks.
For a more secure environment throw linux on a second partition to boot from.
i'm no expert but i'd say linux on VM doesn't help much if your computer is already infected.

and finally i make a fresh install of windows at least once a year, depends how littered the system gets with the time.
If your setup is more complex with many types of software a mirrored backup of the partition with the virginal system is also quite handy.
(in case your fed up with hour long installations of adobe suite et al)




Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: Vortex20000 on August 15, 2014, 06:58:31 AM
You are never safe.

Remember that and you will be safer
Best thing I've seen today.

+1


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: KIRAZ on August 15, 2014, 07:42:55 AM
Well, I have been using Kaspersky from more than 5 years now and it works like a charm. Use to buy at first but i found this one online and
it's been working without any problem from more than 8months, it's a 1year version so you can check it out. Link (http://kickass.to/kaspersky-anti-virus-2013-365-fully-licensed-t7412770.html#main)


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: cHoCo on August 15, 2014, 11:59:46 AM
i have no antivirus installed but still my computer working fine no prolbems at all i got.


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: HTC123 on August 15, 2014, 01:37:12 PM
http://sd.360.cn/ you can try this free one.


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: Kimowa on August 15, 2014, 02:10:40 PM
Try free avg, so far no problem with it..


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: _chance_ on August 15, 2014, 02:17:45 PM
You can try mcafee antivirus too, it's an good antivirus.


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: whiskey on August 15, 2014, 02:27:06 PM
There are many, but itś better to use vmware image. In case there is a virus - you can always go back to older copy


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: leex1528 on August 15, 2014, 02:32:00 PM
Honestly, what I use at home on my windows machine is Microsoft Security Essentials...Seems to actually work okay and does a decent job. 


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: Candystripes on August 15, 2014, 06:50:08 PM
If you download something sketchy and it doesn't pick it up, run your proccesses to see if anything weird is running.


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: pawel7777 on August 15, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
AVG
it's free and better than avast imho


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: bitcoinminer007 on August 16, 2014, 08:43:43 AM
Free antivirus normally has 30 days validity. So now you need to buy antivirus.


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: extortion on August 16, 2014, 08:44:53 AM
malware bytes anti malware pro + windows defender. make sure you configure the firewall and when uninstalling new programs remove the rules, and you should be good to go.


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: elliwilli on August 16, 2014, 10:57:16 AM
Malwarebytes is the best antimalware
Bitdefender is the best antivirus.
using a cocktail of both of these is very effective.


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: blumangroup on August 16, 2014, 05:21:57 PM
Haha there are a ton of 9 month bitdefender antivirus codes floating around, I got one for $1. Try and find a guy that has one.


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: Singlebyte on August 16, 2014, 08:30:11 PM
Antivirus is dead!  Even Norton engineers say so......

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2150743/antivirus-is-dead-says-maker-of-norton-antivirus.html


At the most, they only detect maybe 45% of what's out there.  But hell,  it does give users that "false sense" of security!  :)




Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: bluefirecorp on August 16, 2014, 08:51:44 PM
Antivirus is dead!  Even Norton engineers say so......

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2150743/antivirus-is-dead-says-maker-of-norton-antivirus.html


At the most, they only detect maybe 45% of what's out there.  But hell,  it does give users that "false sense" of security!  :)




Oh shut the fuck up. You have no idea how security works. The journalist wrote a tear-grabbing article to seem edgy. End-device AV isn't a catch-all solution, but it's a layer of security. "45% of what's out there". That's an absolute fucking shit number. Say there's 100 new viruses, brand fucking new. It catches 45 / 100 on day 1. Then day 2 it catches another 10 more (as definitions are updated). By the end of week 1, all 100 viruses are in the signature database. The only way the virus can remain undetected is polymorphic code and self-modification. In the end, heuristic scans can detect that sort of behavior.

Of course, you read an article on pcworld, so you must know everything about security and the entire security field. Right?

Honestly, this entire fucking thread gave me cancer. Seriously, it's not that fucking complicated to download and install an AV product.


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: Holdaaja on August 16, 2014, 08:59:06 PM
Antivirus is dead!  Even Norton engineers say so......

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2150743/antivirus-is-dead-says-maker-of-norton-antivirus.html


At the most, they only detect maybe 45% of what's out there.  But hell,  it does give users that "false sense" of security!  :)




Even if the real number would be 45% it is much better than 0%...
So I see no reason to bury these "dead" antivirus programs.


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: ssaillenss on August 16, 2014, 09:09:26 PM
BitDefender is best antivirus and antimalware software now is no.1 on mostsafty antivirus list


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: Singlebyte on August 16, 2014, 09:34:02 PM
Antivirus is dead!  Even Norton engineers say so......

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2150743/antivirus-is-dead-says-maker-of-norton-antivirus.html


At the most, they only detect maybe 45% of what's out there.  But hell,  it does give users that "false sense" of security!  :)




Oh shut the fuck up. You have no idea how security works. The journalist wrote a tear-grabbing article to seem edgy. End-device AV isn't a catch-all solution, but it's a layer of security. "45% of what's out there". That's an absolute fucking shit number. Say there's 100 new viruses, brand fucking new. It catches 45 / 100 on day 1. Then day 2 it catches another 10 more (as definitions are updated). By the end of week 1, all 100 viruses are in the signature database. The only way the virus can remain undetected is polymorphic code and self-modification. In the end, heuristic scans can detect that sort of behavior.

Of course, you read an article on pcworld, so you must know everything about security and the entire security field. Right?

Honestly, this entire fucking thread gave me cancer. Seriously, it's not that fucking complicated to download and install an AV product.

Wow...somebody hasn't got laid in a very loooong time!  Your sexual frustrations are showing in your posts. 

Anyhow,  although I agree with some of your post, reality is antivirus programs are weak at best and give users a false sense of security.  There is know way for them to know and detect everything being released day after day.  They pretty much can only detect what they "know about" in their already discovered database. This gap is where people are vulnerable.  So unless you are sand boxing your new installs and not running in admin mode you are at a potential risk.  I am not stupid so I do run antivirus on my PC, but it's days as a useful utility are numbered.  People need to take additional precautions and not solely rely on their AV suite.

Btw...I run NO antivirus protection on my Ipad.(lol)...and it is jailbroken.


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: 247crypto on August 16, 2014, 09:43:29 PM
Buy this (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JXQ6XQM/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00JXQ6XQM&linkCode=as2&tag=blog0200-20&linkId=PDRNIEJKTUCC2WBB).
Nothing is better, than it.


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: Naer on August 16, 2014, 09:44:31 PM
I don't use anything and just restore if I get something. Anti virus software are made by the very same people who create the spyware malware viruses in the first place


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: bluefirecorp on August 16, 2014, 09:49:54 PM
Antivirus is dead!  Even Norton engineers say so......

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2150743/antivirus-is-dead-says-maker-of-norton-antivirus.html


At the most, they only detect maybe 45% of what's out there.  But hell,  it does give users that "false sense" of security!  :)




Oh shut the fuck up. You have no idea how security works. The journalist wrote a tear-grabbing article to seem edgy. End-device AV isn't a catch-all solution, but it's a layer of security. "45% of what's out there". That's an absolute fucking shit number. Say there's 100 new viruses, brand fucking new. It catches 45 / 100 on day 1. Then day 2 it catches another 10 more (as definitions are updated). By the end of week 1, all 100 viruses are in the signature database. The only way the virus can remain undetected is polymorphic code and self-modification. In the end, heuristic scans can detect that sort of behavior.

Of course, you read an article on pcworld, so you must know everything about security and the entire security field. Right?

Honestly, this entire fucking thread gave me cancer. Seriously, it's not that fucking complicated to download and install an AV product.

Wow...somebody hasn't got laid in a very loooong time!  Your sexual frustrations are showing in your posts. 

Anyhow,  although I agree with some of your post, reality is antivirus programs are weak at best and give users a false sense of security.  There is know way for them to know and detect everything being released day after day.  They pretty much can only detect what they "know about" in their already discovered database. This gap is where people are vulnerable.  So unless you are sand boxing your new installs and not running in admin mode you are at a potential risk.  I am not stupid so I do run antivirus on my PC, but it's days as a useful utility are numbered.  People need to take additional precautions and not solely rely on their AV suite.

Btw...I run NO antivirus protection on my Ipad.(lol)...and it is jailbroken.

"Oh, I'm wrong. I better insult him by saying he doesn't get laid often." Makes sense if you're 14.

Bullshit about the whole "being smart". All it takes is a well known site that you frequent to be exploited. Hackers toss in a 0day drive-by vulnerability, and you're owned.

Literally the shit coming from your mouth is exactly that, shit.


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: oli123123 on August 16, 2014, 11:02:21 PM
I'm using Kaspersky Internet Security for years, it's pretty good but don't forget you're not 100% safe with an antivirus, you have to be careful.


Title: Re: Antivirus programs.
Post by: zhinkk on August 17, 2014, 12:01:20 AM
Malwarebytes is good enough for me. But yeah, an ondemand antivirus is sometimes nice. But I think it's more annoying then anything. Linux is great, not sure what you have against it.