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he is owner of primedice, this site has an autobet function, but the bad thing is, if you start, and click stop, it still clicks 2-3 times or more and then stops.so its not correct, and swallowed my 2 btc.and they even dont wanna give it back.i highly recommed to NOT Trust this primedice.com and Stunna and his Staff with wich i had many trouble

You're kidding right?
Stunna and Primedice are among the most reputable things in this forum.
Also this is the wrong section I believe. You're trying to make a scam accusation or something.

This user lost 1.5 coins betting on PD3 today and has been blackmailing us for the past few hours. I'll post more details shortly.


Also: this belongs in scam accusations



His original email:

http://puu.sh/aTOK9/e8b332b56a.png

After being notified that we cannot offer him a refund in this case he threatened "war"


Then he threatens and consequently leaves negative trust, sends me a screenshot of this post, posting something to "11,000 real twitter followers" and blogging to 100k+ people. Along with ddos etc.

http://puu.sh/aTONv/dfd1bbf18f.png
http://puu.sh/aTOT3/a2ec7ea422.png



<13:41:04> "terrx26": and a well know person in bitcointalk
<13:41:19> "terrx26": and i will also give stunna a big negative in his trust in bitcointalk
<13:41:40> "terrx26": and with other nicknames too,i will really ruin his bitcointalk nick



Interestingly enough he didn't lose his funds with autobet. Within 24 hours I'm convinced he will fully persuade himself that he was somehow wronged and is entitled to his money back. It's important only to gamble if you understand the risks and you should always have control over these risks.

no i am not kidding,it happened  like i wrote. you can try and play yourself and see it.

I've reported it already. I thought that he probably got burned gambling and is raging at you now.
There is no way that your reputation will get damaged or anything, no worries.

As far i have informed 11k real twitter follower, and my forum with over 160k active users, and with crapebox,blog commentary at 100k blogs.i will never have an understand why i should pay off for technical issues!

Yes the "Automated Betting" does not stop instantly, but takes a little to do so.

Yet there are
- Stop at certain profit/loss
- Limit number of rolls

to prevent what you described. If you did not use neither, how is it the sites fault?

i reported you too. you even dont know what happened,but you are talking

they are new, i lost 1 month ago 2btc ,with this shit autobetting function,wich didnt work.
i of course used the site since over 2 months.

Tim Heidl,

You're not presenting any new facts or an opposing argument to prove Stunna's defense wrong. Think of this forum and viewers of this thread as your jury of peers...and right now Stunna's explanation of what happened with screenshots of emails and other proof are clearly showing you may not have explained your "complaint" accurately...he's showing that you may be lying.

It sucks that you bet your monthly salary and lost and maybe you should seek some help for a potential gambling addiction. There might be people on this forum willing to help you. Last, while your wife may be upset if you're honest with her and work to NOT gamble your salary away in the future she'll probably support your recovery or fix of the problem.

I would think if this issue was happening as you say it was, there would be many long time users of the site that would've posted they'd noticed the same issue.  I'm not reading any others posts about this issue here and this site has been around for a while so it would have come up by now IMHO.

Stunna was fast to address this issue and obviously u had contact with the sites support, so I"m thinking Primedice has done a good job thus far handling this issue and their is no reason to think the problem is on their end until there is some proof, which I doubt will come.

tnx for your nice words.
but if i would loose normal,just gambling,that wouldnt be the problem.
but because of a technical issue,this autobet feature, wich many people are angry of this, i lost.
it doesnt stop if you click on it.it stops after 2-3 bets.and thats not the time i wanted that it stops?
no , iam not lying, i say correct words,like everyone can read,the mails,wich i posted to them.

you misjudge them, they have a good reputation here. please contact them via email and they will reply immediately,. I also ever like that and they were just too busy to answer you quickly.
remain patient

Since the nonce thing is gone, PD no longer has the ability to do selective hashes. I am not taking anybody's side here. However, the part where clicking stop doesn't stop...now thats just sloppy code.

Again, not taking timmy's side here either cause he deserves everything that comes at him.

tnx for post,
i think primedice is a good site,
but this autobet feature,i lost last month 2 btc, because it didnt stop betting,while i clicked.

Hint: DON'T GAMBLE!!!

tnx for post,
i really wouldnt be angry if i would lost of my own fault.
like i said,technical issues,i shouldnt pay off,or?

you are right,
but if you gamble,than you are awaiting a good service.
bytheway its the last time i gambled

Right...

Its obvious that you have some sort of gambling issue if you are playing with money you cant afford to lose. I knew a gambling addict and it was no different than being a drug addict, you just cant stop.. you need to get help. there are many addiction places that will help and im sure that there are sites that will help you..

Begging for your money back wont help you, if you got it back, it would be just gambled away again. Im not trying to be mean, im trying to help.

Edit: Also, I noticed that you said the auto stop didnt work, it would go 1 or 2 more times before stopping, so you lost 2 btc in the very last 2 rolls? i think you knew about this issue before and continued..

tnx for posting,
even if i would be addict, that doesnt mean a technical issue can take my money.
addicting is not the case here

Stunna i ask again, last month i lost, 2 btc,because of your old autobetting feature.
give me my btc, be fair.
i dont need to payoff your technical issue

Why did you make this thread now if this happened last month please?
Stop begging, you're not getting back what you lost gambling.

tnx for post,
it happened today,and last month.
even if i dont use,stop loss,it should work correctly his system.

From: support@primedice.com
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:34:32 -0400
Subject: Re: now you have to post the 100k blogs:) and my twitter followers.dont forgt to post that in bitcointalk now.
To: timmy1979222@hotmail.com

I've ignored you on the forum and am blocking you now so I will not be able to see further emails from you. I'm sorry you ended up having a bad streak and losing, I suggest looking for help with gambling addiction.

http://www.helpguide.org/mental/gambling_addiction.php


Cheers


I asked for a working technicaly system,they try to cover it with addiction,what a poor

See, that is where you are wrong. Stunna is far far from being poor. He has quite a lot of money, so you argument is invalid.

with poor i meant the argument and mail.
i am wrong because i wanna have a working technicaly system?
i am wrong because his site didnt work correct,and swallowed my money.
therefore i am wrong??

Hello Stunna

Can u please check the IP of timmy & dooglus on your platform. If any of them are using TOR, u might be sure that they're same. After destroying PRCdice, the only competition left to DiceBitcoin is PrimeDice. And what can be the better way than doing this ? They are also trying to prove in another thread that PD in NOT provably fair => is this dice game site cheating ? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=738963.0). It should not be very difficult for u to understand the correlation between DiceBitcoin & dooglus ;)

You are wrong because you already knew about the problem, but played anyway.


That means you took a risk and gambled on whether or not you'd be able to stop the auto bet fast enough and you lost the gamble.

Also, you haven't explained yet (not that it really matters in this case, but I can't help but be curious) if the auto bet feature bet two extra times, then how did it lose an extra 2 BTC.  Were you betting 1 BTC on every bet?!

Danny,

Thats the exact same question i posed earlier.. His excuses don't add up.

It's important to note that he did not lose his funds auto-betting, he lost it betting manually. Also there is no known issue with clicking not stopping the auto-bet, you are able to set a stop at loss option as well.


After I brought up this after viewing his bets he claimed the event happened a month ago but he says himself that he chose not to email (Why wouldn't he?). When I asked for his account info on PD2 he wasn't interested in sharing it either.


This guy has flat out told me that he legitimately lost his coins betting and he's interested in going to "war" and will attack our reputation to get them back. Obviously I'm not going to give him anything nor is he owed anything.


(will update with extended bet log: He was doing ~1.57 btc bets at 97% win odds and lost after a small handful.)

From what I can see it looks like he lost an unlikely bet and is very upset about it understandingly.


Everyone in the thread is bringing up valid points assuming he was using auto-bet, but ultimately he didn't lose his funds to the auto-bet tool (he was hitting the manual bet button), he lost his money to a run of bad luck.

LOL, now that is just massive stupidity right there, among the one of 7k btc at 98% on Just Dice.

Also, he got scammed 1BTC when he was looking for a ponzi script. He downloaded this application that was a wallet stealer.

I set down in my living room,and thought about that whole shit.
First thing, today i lost manually, but again there was a click hanger, i clicked once,it bet twice, and i lost.
1 month ago, i lost autobetting, but with random username, i even cant remember.you know this fsat starting username-.
and last thing, i have a right to ask for a technically working system,
and for me this thing is closed.you dont need to give me anything,there is no war.
i and my wife spoke, everything is cleared.she know that i lost the money, her monthly salary.
But still, last month,i mailed also, primedice support, they even didnt react.
I had several mails.
So, have fun with that 1,5btc stunner.
I will never gamble again, that i promised my wife.
And you make a better,and stable system.
And for me,there is no war between primedice and me, i also gave the banner down,wich was on my forum.
I wish everyone a nice night,dont gamble,its bad, and on primedice, since technically not correct working autobet, its more bad.
Good night

I hope this will be true. Good luck.

Even in your last post you slander PD autobet feature although that was apparently a month or more ago and had nothing to do with your recent loss... its best to admit full responsibility and move on... and dont gamble again!

timmy - I'm sorry you lost your money, seriously, but you are not helping yourself here.  The fact that your story seems to be changing (first autobet, now something else), you have acted in a very threatening manner and are not being very coherent is making it worse.

SS - I doubt it seriously.

Stunna - Nice coherent defense.  Your reputation is already rock solid, but it is nice to see what goes on "behind the scenes" so to speak.  Thanks for laying out the details.  One idea related to the autobet, maybe in addition to max loss allow the user to set a time interval as well?

Good Luck!

tnx for nice answer,
i really dont wanna talk about this thing,
i just wanna forget it.
bytheway first loss was autobet,second was manual,where also when i clocked stop,it didnt stop.
so, from now i dont speak about this case anymore.
good night everybody.tnx for listening

My two thoughts and .0002 btc on the matter... ;)

1) Never bet what you aren't 100% prepared to lose.
2) Autobet is well known as autolose... I've seen autobet (on 97.82% to win mind you) loose 8 times in a row. That's like flipping a quarter and it landing on it's edge... underwater... on mars. Just stay away from ye olde autobet.

Damn, I've been pretty bored today, but reading this thread has definitely provided me with some solid entertainment. :D I saw another thread linked in here by SpanishSoildier, I'm guessing that will be a solid one as well. Off I go!  ;D

Even though he wasn't really using the auto-bet, who would think auto-betting with 2btc is a good idea?

Stunna and Primedice is reliable, and so is his site, as far as I know.

Some gambling tips you might think about:

1) Never gamble what you can't afford to lose, even if your loss is unlikely(like 97% chance to win). There are people luck enough to win on lottery, or get rare diseases, it is that hard you be "lucky" enough to lose a 97%

2) Always leave the table when you are winning. There is the house edge stuff, so in the long all your profits will go to the house

3) Chances to win mutiple bets, even at small % to lose each one, will be not negligible after a few handful of bets. For example, 8 wins @97% = 78% chance to win all.

4) If you for some reason don't trust the site, then learn how the provably fair results are generated, and change your seed before each bet. If something goes not expected you will have concrete evidence to make accusations

I dont get why people bet at that percentage thinking it wont lose.

Its a ALL IN MOVE, so what the fuck lol.

I see it all the time, people can't believe they lost at 98% because it's pretty much a 1 in 50 chance of losing. So their thought process is that they can win 49 times before losing or at least get close to there. But, when that 1.00 comes up on the 10th roll, you just lost big time. That's why most people don't like the high win chance bets. If you lose, you're done for and have to make up so much ground. While the other way around, at like 10x, you could lose 20 times in a row, but then if you just win 4 times in the next 20 bets, all of a sudden you are ahead.

GAMBLE = risk = lose

if you dont want to lose your wife money then dont bet..

well you bet your wife money to increase it to 2 btc in 5 bets.. i know .. and if you win you refund to stunna? thts my question ?

i personally lose on primedice but it is the part of gambling .. so if you bet then expect lose too not only win..

STUNNA = rocks

acctually your thinking of bet 2-3 times are wrong it only plays one time..

I don't understand why you need to blackmail if you can sort it out in a peaceful way lol

If 2-3 bets lose you 2 btc, you should NOT be betting that much on autobet. Thats around 1btc per bet??? Don't trust these things tom ake you money. In the end you will always come out behind, because of a house edge.

I am not a person to take sides.

Facts:
The autobet feature is bunk. It works, however not exactly responsive when you press the stop bet function. It indeed does happen, that when you press 'stop rolling' you roll an extra, on average, two turns. This can make or break, especially since when someone is trying to stop an auto-bet, they are usually noticing something bad happening. It should be automatic...or in the very least a disclaimer would take care of that.

Facts: Well the emails are there. However handled with not ideal customer service, primedice may be right. They are at the point where, from their pov, things are right. From yours, maybe not. You need to convince them without a doubt, much like a jury. Not threaten or anything.

Resolution:
Meet in the middle. PD, would you be losing that much? Probably not.

other person:
Will you stop gambling? Show proof of help sought, or something maybe?

I highly doubt doolgus would resort to such a action. DiceBitcoin is not owned by doolgus and he have helped PD in many ways so there's no reason for him to ruin PD's reputation. You cannot prove one is another's alt by judging how they are trying to protect their identity, there are thousands of people using tor so you cannot prove doolgus is that person even if they are both using tor. The thread was made by a new person who is into gambling trying to prove primedice is not provably fair and failed as all of the replies says that PD is indeed provably fair.

what is doolgus??? i heard the first time now.no, i am definitly not, the one you are asking. i WAS a gambler, but dont gamble since yesterday.even dont surf on gambling sites!

Bytheway, if someone wants to donates me some btc, for motivation,after i lost all my btc,
he can. tnx if some does it.
Here my btc adress.Its not begging, just asking if someone wants donate, for some motivation.


1BbpmpbDeF3YUUUsjCkLvcBi7RbSDt1FnW

Doolgus was just-dice.com operator. It was a gambling dice game which have attracted over 50,000 BTC of investments. It was closed down a few months ago due to regulations in Canada. He refunded everyone's money without problems and have a lot of trust within the community.

He refunded everyones money? very respective handling!

Hard to believe that It really attracted 50K BTC of investments which is $25M, but if for real and he refunded everything then very high trust he has.

perhaps it happened a while ago when bitcoin had a much lower value

Hey, i think you know gambling is very risky
You should very carefully to gambling
because some people say : gamble will make your money ZERO

And problem about when you click stop, the problem is already since PD2  ;D
There are lot people in bitcointalk.org already trust both PD & Stunna  :)


Seriously  :o
If that's true, he's already have lot of BTC from PRCdice  ;D


From what he say, i think he gamble 1 BTC/roll
Yeah, how crazy he are

IMO, JD is the most trustworthy site, and doog is one of the most trustworthy persons in the bitcoin world.
I don't think he will use a new account to slander PD and he won't do it in such a poorly executed way lol. :D

@timmy1979222  My friend, anything you decide to do with your money is your own responsibility. I myself have lost quite a bit of BTC investing in 'scamcoins' over the past few months but I don't blame the scammer devs one bit. I can only blame myself because nobody forced me to throw BTC at those coins.

When you discover a new site, no matter how many friends tell you that it's the most reliable site out there, you just don't send 2 BTC on your first try. That's just common sense. You send a small amount that you can afford to lose to test the site. Even after you've tested the site, you will never have 100% guarantee that your money will be safe there. So it's always at your own risk.

You found out about the auto-betting clicks(?) last month and yet you still sent more money this month?? How can you not blame yourself for this decision?

If you had sent only $2 the first time as a test, decided you didn't like the clicks(?) and stopped, you would've only lost $2 and you wouldn't be in this unpleasant situation right now.

You can't blame the world for your own mistakes my friend.

tnx for this nice posting,
one thing you missunderstood, first bet ,one month ago , was autobet, this time  ,yesterday,was manual, and even then didnt stop after clicking stop, if has clicked one click more.
but tnx for your good words, i will give you trust in your feedback.
bytheway people , i dont know any doodlo or whatever you talk.

I lose some of my btc through gambling also but atleast i don't do things irrational. My advice for you is to keep moving forward, there are many opportunities to make up your losses

I'm with you but afraid there is nothing you can do about it

It's a one way road. All you have left to do is get over your loss. As said above you should've never gambled what you couldn't afford to lose. Get over it. Get over it. Get over it. Just get over it and it won't be a problem.

First the dumbass tries to blackmail a gambling business, and then when he's called out on it he tries to punish me with negative feedback.

This guy's about as trustworthy as Kenneth Lay and Jeffrey Skilling. I'd trust Bernard Madoff with my money before I'd trust Timmy with even a penny.

You have every right to call him a dumbass, aha he doesn't even know how trust works. What kind of idiot does that.

Also gave me such a good laugh "Gives people untrust"

"untrust" lmfao

He needs to be jailed for blackmailing and yeah is a 100% dumbass for doing those silly things lol just lol

you first gave me untrust,you idiot.just to cover your friend stunna.

Yes, but its not like its going to make a difference is it?

https://i.imgur.com/Gum6nHv.png

definately no no no , no way..
he just lose his money and blamming everyone in this thread.. lol

Nope, it will show up in his 'untrusted feedback' list. But still it shows that timmy1979222 is also abusing the trust system.

Never bet money you can't afford to lose. And definately don't try to get it back with some sad, made up story.

apply ice to burnt area

what happen with primedice and stunna??

What a sore loser if you cant take losing dont play  ;)

According to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740664.msg8369045#msg8369045, you did not lose the bitcoin in autobets at all, and you have been threatening to hack and DDoS the site...

Nothing did. Obviously this guy is just a sore loser and cannot gamble responsibly.

And why is this in games and rounds? Shouldnt it be in scam accusations or service discussion?

dice doesnt get more legit than pd and stunna

i have never seen nor heard of stunna being anything but legit. sorry you lost your money but its called gambling

lol. Having casino, also brings some drama.

you people didnt recognize that i dont take care of this thread,:)
you talk against wall, because i dont talk about this case anymore.

then you should lock this thread  ;)

how to do that?