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Economy => Economics => Topic started by: bigasic on August 16, 2014, 04:19:19 AM



Title: Did leveraging and market calls cause the downward spiral?
Post by: bigasic on August 16, 2014, 04:19:19 AM
I truly believe it did. I used to arbitrage a couple of years ago, but thats as far as my knowledge goes with forex/bitcoin wording. I know what shorting and long are. I think some people made a killing (possibly insider) from this, but a lot of people lost their shorts(no pun intended). So, when does the bleeding stop?

Are their sites that tell us how much is still shorted? I think the most of the bleeding has stopped, but not totally..I would like to get others opinions that know what they are talking about. and when you explain things, dummy it down for me, lol...

Another thing Ive heard is that chinese exchanges are pulling a mt gox, but i dont believe that, I think most of them provide leveraging services and it was caused by my main hypothesis.


Title: Re: Did leveraging and market calls cause the downward spiral?
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on August 16, 2014, 04:09:01 PM
i think it more like this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=741712.0


Title: Re: Did leveraging and market calls cause the downward spiral?
Post by: DurbanPoison on August 16, 2014, 08:54:57 PM
Leveraged traders on Bitfinex most certainly contributed to the recent selloff.


Title: Re: Did leveraging and market calls cause the downward spiral?
Post by: twiifm on August 17, 2014, 03:15:50 AM
Yes it has happened in other markets.  Most well known recent case was Bear Stearns & Lehman Bros.  Bitcoin is not immune ti market economics


Title: Re: Did leveraging and market calls cause the downward spiral?
Post by: xkeyscore89 on August 17, 2014, 04:24:25 AM
I truly believe it did. I used to arbitrage a couple of years ago, but thats as far as my knowledge goes with forex/bitcoin wording. I know what shorting and long are. I think some people made a killing (possibly insider) from this, but a lot of people lost their shorts(no pun intended). So, when does the bleeding stop?

Are their sites that tell us how much is still shorted? I think the most of the bleeding has stopped, but not totally..I would like to get others opinions that know what they are talking about. and when you explain things, dummy it down for me, lol...

Another thing Ive heard is that chinese exchanges are pulling a mt gox, but i dont believe that, I think most of them provide leveraging services and it was caused by my main hypothesis.
Probably, however this is not 100% for sure, at least not yet.

The amount of outstanding swaps on bitfinex has dropped by ~$10 million in the past several days so it is clear that a lot of positions on that exchange have been liquidated. There have also been numerious news reports saying that the crash has been caused by massive amounts of margin calls.