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Title: BitcoinDark to make Bitcoin anonymous
Post by: SpringfieldM1A on August 18, 2014, 09:23:35 AM
I learned about this press release and wanted to share:

Bitcoin Made Anonymous By BitcoinDark’s Unprecedented Cryptocurrency Teleport Technology

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-made-anonymous-bitcoindark-unprecedented-033200415.html

I know, "altcoins" are heavily scrutinized by the Bitcoin community. But BitcoinDark does not have the ambition to compete with Bitcoin, it is rather a platform to make cryptocurrencies anonymous in general, even the king of kings itself.

quote from the press release :

"BitcoinDark is not just an innovative anonymous cryptocurrency: it is an evolving toolbox of cutting edge technology for cryptocurrency developers and enthusiasts worldwide. With its collaborative spirit, planned super network of many different cryptocurrencies utilizing BTCD core infrastructure, anonymous transactions for Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, decentralized InstantDEX currency exchange and much more – BitcoinDark is not just a cryptocurrency but a revolutionary digital currency infrastructure"

In light of the ongoing discussion about Bitcoin legislation, do you think BitcoinDark could serve a purpose in keeping Bitcoin the way it was intended; decentralized and anonymous? I am looking forward to the discussion.


Title: Re: BitcoinDark to make Bitcoin anonymous
Post by: maurya78 on August 18, 2014, 09:43:14 AM
Will not happen for the same reason that zerocoin wasn't rolled into the btc protocol
Anonymity at odds with mainstream adoption. Can have either but not both.
Wait and watch


Title: Re: BitcoinDark to make Bitcoin anonymous
Post by: jl777 on August 18, 2014, 09:50:30 AM
Will not happen for the same reason that zerocoin wasn't rolled into the btc protocol
Anonymity at odds with mainstream adoption. Can have either but not both.
Wait and watch
Actually it is possible to make bitcoin anon without any bitcoin core changes

I know sounds too good to be true.
http://bitscan.com/articles/anonymity-why-dark-is-the-new-black has a layman's explanation

http://www.flipgorilla.com/p/23023990364728535/show#/23023990364728535/0 has DarkPaper which goes into more details on how it is possible

https://github.com/jl777/libjl777 has the source code for the work in progress that is working to teleport BTCD and I dont expect it to take much more work to get it to teleport BTC itself

James

P.S. The mainstream really has no impact as bitcoin cannot prevent itself from being teleported!


Title: Re: BitcoinDark to make Bitcoin anonymous
Post by: EcoChavCrypto on August 18, 2014, 09:59:34 AM
Don't forget the BTCD team up with https://coinomat.com/ to bring out a debit card using the visa network. :)


Title: Re: BitcoinDark to make Bitcoin anonymous
Post by: jd1959 on August 18, 2014, 10:36:31 AM
Will not happen for the same reason that zerocoin wasn't rolled into the btc protocol
Anonymity at odds with mainstream adoption. Can have either but not both.
Wait and watch

Governments all over the world are starting to look at crypto currency with a view to tax earnings.

I think this reason alone will lead to a greater need for privacy......beware of the tax man  ;D


Title: Re: BitcoinDark to make Bitcoin anonymous
Post by: cryptnutter on August 18, 2014, 10:47:02 AM
BitcoinDark is just another altcoin. There is no need to sell BTC to buy one of these so called anonymous altcoins if you are seeking privacy as there are plenty of ways of anonymizing your Bitcoin transactions (use a new address every time, use shared coin when you send, use exchanges, use the upcoming darkwallet).

I don't see any of these "anonymous" coins surpassing Bitcoin any time soon.


Title: Re: BitcoinDark to make Bitcoin anonymous
Post by: cbeast on August 18, 2014, 10:49:54 AM
BitcoinDark is just another altcoin. There is no need to sell BTC to buy one of these so called anonymous altcoins if you are seeking privacy as there are plenty of ways of anonymizing your Bitcoin transactions (use a new address every time, use shared coin when you send, use exchanges, use the upcoming darkwallet).

I don't see any of these "anonymous" coins surpassing Bitcoin any time soon.

Don't forget to use coin control.


Title: Re: BitcoinDark to make Bitcoin anonymous
Post by: jd1959 on August 18, 2014, 11:03:02 AM
BitcoinDark is just another altcoin. There is no need to sell BTC to buy one of these so called anonymous altcoins if you are seeking privacy as there are plenty of ways of anonymizing your Bitcoin transactions (use a new address every time, use shared coin when you send, use exchanges, use the upcoming darkwallet).

I don't see any of these "anonymous" coins surpassing Bitcoin any time soon.

Don't forget to use coin control.

I don't think it's about replacing Bitcoin or any other coin......I see it as evolution  ;)


Title: Re: BitcoinDark to make Bitcoin anonymous
Post by: noviapriani on August 18, 2014, 11:19:13 AM
I was thinking of what if the coin can change names and automatically mix it and then combing to one address, that would be a pretty cool blockchain for anonymizing coins


Title: Re: BitcoinDark to make Bitcoin anonymous
Post by: cbeast on August 18, 2014, 11:30:14 AM
BitcoinDark is just another altcoin. There is no need to sell BTC to buy one of these so called anonymous altcoins if you are seeking privacy as there are plenty of ways of anonymizing your Bitcoin transactions (use a new address every time, use shared coin when you send, use exchanges, use the upcoming darkwallet).

I don't see any of these "anonymous" coins surpassing Bitcoin any time soon.

Don't forget to use coin control.

I don't think it's about replacing Bitcoin or any other coin......I see it as evolution  ;)
Most evolutionary branches fail and go extinct.


Title: Re: BitcoinDark to make Bitcoin anonymous
Post by: SpringfieldM1A on August 18, 2014, 11:32:27 AM
BitcoinDark is just another altcoin. There is no need to sell BTC to buy one of these so called anonymous altcoins if you are seeking privacy as there are plenty of ways of anonymizing your Bitcoin transactions (use a new address every time, use shared coin when you send, use exchanges, use the upcoming darkwallet).

I don't see any of these "anonymous" coins surpassing Bitcoin any time soon.

That is why BitcoinDark is different. It's not 'just another altcoin' BitcoinDark aims to be a platform, providing anonymous support for any cryptocurrency, even Bitcoin itself. Herein lies the elegance in my opinion, instead of creating a coin to try and copy Bitcoin's succes, Bitcoindark aims to enhance rather than compete. If Bitcoindark was 'just another altcoin' I wouldn't dare to post this message in the lions den.


Title: Re: BitcoinDark to make Bitcoin anonymous
Post by: cbeast on August 18, 2014, 11:42:42 AM
BitcoinDark is just another altcoin. There is no need to sell BTC to buy one of these so called anonymous altcoins if you are seeking privacy as there are plenty of ways of anonymizing your Bitcoin transactions (use a new address every time, use shared coin when you send, use exchanges, use the upcoming darkwallet).

I don't see any of these "anonymous" coins surpassing Bitcoin any time soon.

That is why BitcoinDark is different. It's not 'just another altcoin' BitcoinDark aims to be a platform, providing anonymous support for any cryptocurrency, even Bitcoin itself. Herein lies the elegance in my opinion, instead of creating a coin to try and copy Bitcoin's succes, Bitcoindark aims to enhance rather than compete. If Bitcoindark was 'just another altcoin' I wouldn't dare to post this message in the lions den.

I feel like I just stepped in doggie doo.


Title: Re: BitcoinDark to make Bitcoin anonymous
Post by: jd1959 on August 18, 2014, 11:54:38 AM
BitcoinDark is just another altcoin. There is no need to sell BTC to buy one of these so called anonymous altcoins if you are seeking privacy as there are plenty of ways of anonymizing your Bitcoin transactions (use a new address every time, use shared coin when you send, use exchanges, use the upcoming darkwallet).

I don't see any of these "anonymous" coins surpassing Bitcoin any time soon.

Don't forget to use coin control.

I don't think it's about replacing Bitcoin or any other coin......I see it as evolution  ;)
Most evolutionary branches fail and go extinct.
That's the wonderful thing about it, no matter how many fail some will succeed....who would have put money on the platypus

http://australianmuseum.net.au/Platypus


Title: Re: BitcoinDark to make Bitcoin anonymous
Post by: NUD on August 18, 2014, 12:28:46 PM
Anonymous is a strong term, we have yet to see one cryptocurrency achieve that instead of boasting about "anonymity".

Simply integrating mixing or wiring the transactions via Tor/L2P isn't enough, integrating mixing and claiming anonymity makes about as much sense as lowering the block speed and claiming to be the "fastest altcoin" or "the altcoin with the fastest transactions". It implies that there is some original innovation when there is none.

I might not be on here 24/7 looking into every single altcoin but as far as I know we are the only candidate that got it so far, however we are pretty early into development ourselves.


Title: Re: BitcoinDark to make Bitcoin anonymous
Post by: BBQcopter on August 18, 2014, 01:54:32 PM
none of these coins are going to work, since they all just for pumping and dumping, there is not enough, faith in alt coins