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Title: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: cbeast on March 28, 2012, 01:58:30 AM
I just found this. Coineer: The Bitcoin Magazine http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007O425BW (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007O425BW)


Title: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: rjk on March 28, 2012, 02:08:05 AM
I just found this. Coineer: The Bitcoin Magazine http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007O425BW (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007O425BW)
I guess you gotta hand it to him for spreading it all over the place before announcing it. :P


Title: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: SgtSpike on March 28, 2012, 03:05:10 AM
I just found this. Coineer: The Bitcoin Magazine http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007O425BW (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007O425BW)
So... is his out already then?


Title: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: cbeast on March 28, 2012, 03:12:10 AM
I just found this. Coineer: The Bitcoin Magazine http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007O425BW (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007O425BW)
So... is his out already then?
I actually can't remember the last magazine I browsed. I would have called it an e-zine. I was just quoting the post. I do like the price though. I hope Amazon will get aboard the Bitcoin boat, with lower fees these could be even cheaper.


Title: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: SgtSpike on March 28, 2012, 03:21:34 AM
I just found this. Coineer: The Bitcoin Magazine http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007O425BW (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007O425BW)
I guess you gotta hand it to him for spreading it all over the place before announcing it. :P

Well raise my rent! That technically is the very first Bitcoin magazine even if it’s only 20 pages long. Here's the link for the whole thing.

http://coineer.com/BitcoinMagazine/Coineer_Vol1_Iss0.pdf

Interesting.  It doesn't feel professional at all - seems like a "magazine" that someone created in Microsoft Word.  That said, it's not that bad... just not professional.

Matthew, you've got the "Bitcoin Magazine" trademark in the US already, right?


Title: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: cbeast on March 28, 2012, 03:38:40 AM
I think the other mag is thrown together quickly by someone wanting to make a point about a timeline for magazine production. It seems like a half assed attempt to do one quickly and has not really gone into print yet but it has gone to market. I guess only time will tell if it pans out to be a real periodical and not just an elaborate troll. 
We'll see which one gets quoted by bloggers and video pundits.


Title: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: Rassah on March 28, 2012, 04:53:10 AM
I just found this. Coineer: The Bitcoin Magazine http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007O425BW (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007O425BW)

Waiting for a review that's something like, "I spent a whole $6 buying this magazine, but just two weeks later it's worth $1 :("


Title: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: bbit on March 28, 2012, 04:57:03 AM
Hey all I'm coineer!  I didn't even know it!!  :P ::)


Title: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: cbeast on March 28, 2012, 05:09:04 AM
I just found this. Coineer: The Bitcoin Magazine http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007O425BW (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007O425BW)

Waiting for a review that's something like, "I spent a whole $6 buying this magazine, but just two weeks later it's worth $1 :("
ROFL YES! Bitcoin Magazine prices MUST fluctuate WILDLY!


Title: Re: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: stochastic on March 28, 2012, 08:57:14 AM
Shouldn't these magazines just be released digitally anyway?


Title: Re: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 28, 2012, 09:06:45 AM
Shouldn't these magazines just be released digitally anyway?

How is it supposed to reach laymen if it's only digital?


Title: Re: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 28, 2012, 12:34:56 PM
Shouldn't these magazines just be released digitally anyway?

How is it supposed to reach laymen if it's only digital?

How many non-computer users will be interested in using bitcoin? I do think there is a market for printed mags but I do wonder how big it is.
How many computer users are not aware of Bitcoin but aware of PC Gamer?


Title: Re: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 28, 2012, 12:51:43 PM
Shouldn't these magazines just be released digitally anyway?

How is it supposed to reach laymen if it's only digital?

How many non-computer users will be interested in using bitcoin? I do think there is a market for printed mags but I do wonder how big it is.
How many computer users are not aware of Bitcoin but aware of PC Gamer?

Do not know, but don't see how you can make a point with this with out either making a logical fallacy or advertise in PC Gamer. (Based on context I assume that is an in print mag?)

You've never heard of PC Gamer? I guess it's more of an American central magazine than I thought.

Anyway, I really don't understand what logical fallacy you're talking about. People who have computers and care about economics, nerd culture, hacking, programming, online payment methods, etc don't necessary already know about Bitcoin, just like girls with a computer who like makeup don't necessarily automatically know about "Bubz" makeup channel on Youtube, and I bet having a flyer in their high school would bring more traffic than an online spam link any day of the week.

There's also a certain amount of prestige when dealing with a printed, professionally designed product. The difference is this-- when someone sees the Coineer e-zine/childrens school activity printout PDF, they will run away from Bitcoin laughing. When someone sees the Bitcoin Magazine, they're going to think "Wow, what is this interesting new culture I haven't heard about before?".

Oh and you're welcome.


Title: Re: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: rjk on March 28, 2012, 01:02:37 PM
You keep editing your posts. It is hard to respond in a normal way to this...

I said before that there is a need/demand for a print mag about bitcoin. How much I do not know. But your question about the PC gamer thing was a bit of a silly response.





His example of PC Gamer is showing that it has a huge print-copy reader base, even though it caters to those on a computer all day.

Those of us on a computer all day do appreciate a physical mag to hold in our hands.


Title: Re: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 28, 2012, 01:03:54 PM
You keep editing your posts. It is hard to respond in a normal way to this...

I said before that there is a need/demand for a print mag about bitcoin. How much I do not know. But your question about the PC gamer thing was a bit of a silly response.
His example of PC Gamer is showing that it has a huge print-copy reader base, even though it caters to those on a computer all day.

Those of us on a computer all day do appreciate a physical mag to hold in our hands.

Yay, common sense.

EDIT: (I'm going to start putting "EDIT" in front of my edits to make things clearer)

It's kind of like how we can always download porn and read slashdot but we still get Maxim magazine "for the articles".


Title: Re: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: SgtSpike on March 28, 2012, 03:24:39 PM
You keep editing your posts. It is hard to respond in a normal way to this...

I said before that there is a need/demand for a print mag about bitcoin. How much I do not know. But your question about the PC gamer thing was a bit of a silly response.
His example of PC Gamer is showing that it has a huge print-copy reader base, even though it caters to those on a computer all day.

Those of us on a computer all day do appreciate a physical mag to hold in our hands.

Yay, common sense.

EDIT: (I'm going to start putting "EDIT" in front of my edits to make things clearer)

It's kind of like how we can always download porn and read slashdot but we still get Maxim magazine "for the articles".

Yeah, I'm not in that market and I do not understand it clearly. I bought a touch pad to read PDFs. Anyway, as I always said, I'm sure there is a market for it, but I don't know how much.

Edit: I also do not own a printer :/
A lot of people just have preference to read physical magazines.  I SOMETIMES don't mind reading stuff online, but I always prefer reading a printed copy.  Something about reading on a backlit screen just doesn't feel right and is kind of annoying.


Title: Re: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 28, 2012, 03:31:25 PM
A lot of people just have preference to read physical magazines.  I SOMETIMES don't mind reading stuff online, but I always prefer reading a printed copy.  Something about reading on a backlit screen just doesn't feel right and is kind of annoying.

Totally. All the people who say "print is dead" crack me up. Tangibility will never die in our lifetime.


Title: Re: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: bitcoinsarefun on March 28, 2012, 03:59:36 PM
A lot of people just have preference to read physical magazines.  I SOMETIMES don't mind reading stuff online, but I always prefer reading a printed copy.  Something about reading on a backlit screen just doesn't feel right and is kind of annoying.

Totally. All the people who say "print is dead" crack me up. Tangibility will never die in our lifetime.

Hope it is cost effective, best of luck!

Printing is definitely expensive but I think it's worth it, having a physical copy is nice


Title: Re: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: Bigpiggy01 on March 28, 2012, 04:27:22 PM
Printing is cheap in China  ;D


Title: Re: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 28, 2012, 04:27:55 PM
Printing is cheap in China  ;D
Alas, shipping isn't, or else I'd have a gold mine here in Korea too ;)


Title: Re: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: Coineer on March 28, 2012, 10:58:49 PM
Physical versions of media still have favour by some people but there are lots of people out there who are happy with digital versions as well.

Since magazines are about readership, we decided to go with both. We want to get our publication in front of as many readers as possible. Every reader we get is another pair of eyeballs on Bitcoin and the people that support it.



Title: Re: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 28, 2012, 10:59:48 PM
Every reader we get is another pair of eyeballs on Bitcoin and the people that support it.

Am I the only one who sees the irony in that?


Title: Re: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: SgtSpike on March 28, 2012, 11:08:27 PM
Physical versions of media still have favour by some people but there are lots of people out there who are happy with digital versions as well.

Since magazines are about readership, we decided to go with both. We want to get our publication in front of as many readers as possible. Every reader we get is another pair of eyeballs on Bitcoin and the people that support it.


So you have a physical copy available for purchase as well?  Is it at any physical shops, or does it have to be shipped out?  Do you have any pictures to show off the quality of the print job?


Title: Re: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: Coineer on March 30, 2012, 12:32:09 AM
So you have a physical copy available for purchase as well?  Is it at any physical shops, or does it have to be shipped out?  Do you have any pictures to show off the quality of the print job?

That is correct. Actual printed copies of the magazine are available now and they will be coming to retailers (first in Canada).

They are digest-size, full-colour, 80lb glossy magazine stock with saddle-stich binding.

I will be posting pics tomorrow so everyone can see what the magazine looks like (in print) ;D



Title: Re: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: rjk on March 30, 2012, 12:33:12 AM
So you have a physical copy available for purchase as well?  Is it at any physical shops, or does it have to be shipped out?  Do you have any pictures to show off the quality of the print job?

That is correct. Actual printed copies of the magazine are available now and they will be coming to retailers (first in Canada).

They are digest-size, full-colour, 80lb glossy magazine stock with saddle-stich binding.

I will be posting pics tomorrow so everyone can see what the magazine looks like (in print) ;D


Sweet, a 2600 wannabe. Hopefully they don't get lost behind other mags.


Title: Re: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: Coineer on March 30, 2012, 12:42:52 AM
Sweet, a 2600 wannabe...

Extra sweet... Was hoping I wouldn't have to make that reference myself ;)




Title: Re: [Split] Coineer Magazine
Post by: Coineer on March 31, 2012, 01:09:07 AM
Pics are posted here... (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74346.msg828320#msg828320)