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Title: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: 5 Guys Burgers on August 18, 2014, 04:10:05 PM
i noticed on https://btc-e.com/ that all coins are dump at 15:30 time stamp. check each coin and see how coins bounced around. very suspicious. stolen coins perhaps? whale taking massive dump?

hope they using charmin.

very unfortunate that one person can cause this to happen, hopefully we do not see more of this type of thing for a little while

thanks.


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: Mellnik on August 18, 2014, 04:15:48 PM
Just some whale dumping their coins from $450 to $309 lol. Stop spreading american fear manipulation conspiracy theories propaganda, thanks.


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: maker88 on August 18, 2014, 04:24:48 PM
Just some whale dumping their coins from $450 to $309 lol. Stop spreading american fear manipulation conspiracy theories propaganda, thanks.

Where do you get any connection to America here?


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: dropt on August 18, 2014, 04:26:53 PM
Where do you get any connection to America here?

Perhaps the name "5 Guys Burgers" has something to do with it?


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: Mellnik on August 18, 2014, 04:30:14 PM
I just put USA in a nutshell.


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: 5 Guys Burgers on August 18, 2014, 05:23:36 PM
Where do you get any connection to America here?

Perhaps the name "5 Guys Burgers" has something to do with it?

They are in canadia too.

http://fiveguys.ca/en/locations/store-list-by-province.aspx


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: dropt on August 18, 2014, 05:24:53 PM
They are in canadia too.

http://fiveguys.ca/en/locations/store-list-by-province.aspx

Only relatively recently. 


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: MRKLYE on August 18, 2014, 05:26:38 PM
Fatty karpeles needs money to buy his island.. that is all.


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: thefunkybits on August 18, 2014, 05:28:55 PM
i noticed on https://btc-e.com/ that all coins are dump at 15:30 time stamp. check each coin and see how coins bounced around. very suspicious. stolen coins perhaps? whale taking massive dump?

hope they using charmin.

very unfortunate that one person can cause this to happen, hopefully we do not see more of this type of thing for a little while

thanks.

It looks to me like a margin call on longs.

when Bitfinex dropped to 450 a few days ago there was a margin call on longs and I think the same thing is happening here on btc-e.

Historically a good time buy after longs get squeezed as sell pressure should be evaporated  ;)


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: howaboutya on August 18, 2014, 06:00:37 PM
That wasn't a price manipulation but just a mistake made by a unexperienced whale.


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: mr angry on August 18, 2014, 06:13:32 PM
i noticed on https://btc-e.com/ that all coins are dump at 15:30 time stamp. check each coin and see how coins bounced around. very suspicious. stolen coins perhaps? whale taking massive dump?

hope they using charmin.

very unfortunate that one person can cause this to happen, hopefully we do not see more of this type of thing for a little while

thanks.

It looks to me like a margin call on longs.

when Bitfinex dropped to 450 a few days ago there was a margin call on longs and I think the same thing is happening here on btc-e.

Historically a good time buy after longs get squeezed as sell pressure should be evaporated  ;)

I have a very rough, sketchy understanding of what longs are, but what's a margin call?


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: Octavius on August 18, 2014, 06:15:33 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/b9qnp.jpg


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: Wandererfromthenorth on August 18, 2014, 06:28:09 PM
Just some whale dumping their coins from $450 to $309 lol. Stop spreading american fear manipulation conspiracy theories propaganda, thanks.
"conspiracy theories" have nothing to do with this, manipulation is normal business in an unregulated market like cryptocurrencies.

Do you think any whale with that amount of coins would be so dumb to sell his BTC stash for like 30% less USD than any other exchange all at once?
Don't be a total fool please.


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: 4onesea on August 18, 2014, 06:33:45 PM
Probably the value was manipulated by a big whale, and all the exchanges followed the drop.


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: vuduchyld on August 18, 2014, 06:34:24 PM
Dammit, now I'm hungry.


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: dropt on August 18, 2014, 06:37:24 PM
Do you think any whale with that amount of coins would be so dumb to sell his BTC stash for like 30% less USD?   than any other exchange all at once?
Don't be a total fool please.

+1


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: haploid23 on August 18, 2014, 06:37:49 PM
Ethereum openly admitted that they're dumping massive amounts of coins. I think around 20k btc. The dump will just eat up all the buy orders, so btc price won't rebound at least until the dump is complete. It might just so happen the dump is happening on btc-e.


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: 5 Guys Burgers on August 18, 2014, 06:57:50 PM
Ethereum openly admitted that they're dumping massive amounts of coins. I think around 20k btc. The dump will just eat up all the buy orders, so btc price won't rebound at least until the dump is complete. It might just so happen the dump is happening on btc-e.

ahh good info

do you happen to have a link to where this is said? sorry i am a newbie and i can only search once every 360 seconds as the website has told me. i tried looking but didnt find it and now i gotta wait more hehe.

thanks.


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: mr angry on August 18, 2014, 07:34:42 PM
Ethereum openly admitted that they're dumping massive amounts of coins. I think around 20k btc. The dump will just eat up all the buy orders, so btc price won't rebound at least until the dump is complete. It might just so happen the dump is happening on btc-e.

ahh good info

do you happen to have a link to where this is said? sorry i am a newbie and i can only search once every 360 seconds as the website has told me. i tried looking but didnt find it and now i gotta wait more hehe.

thanks.

https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/08/08/announcement-on-planned-exodus-withdrawal/

They are dumping some of their bitcoins now, but the IPO is over in a few weeks, and I cannot find any information about what they plan to do with the $ millions of bitcoins they have left over afterwards.


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: Razick on August 18, 2014, 10:20:07 PM
Just some whale dumping their coins from $450 to $309 lol. Stop spreading american fear manipulation conspiracy theories propaganda, thanks.

Where do you get any connection to America here?

I know right? I was wondering the exact same thing. Some people seem to try to incorporate American bashing into every post.  :D


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: gog1 on August 19, 2014, 01:51:01 AM
the BTC-E discount is back to the historic norm at 7-10%.  Very interested on this widening of the spread.


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: thefunkybits on August 19, 2014, 02:11:55 AM
i noticed on https://btc-e.com/ that all coins are dump at 15:30 time stamp. check each coin and see how coins bounced around. very suspicious. stolen coins perhaps? whale taking massive dump?

hope they using charmin.

very unfortunate that one person can cause this to happen, hopefully we do not see more of this type of thing for a little while

thanks.

It looks to me like a margin call on longs.

when Bitfinex dropped to 450 a few days ago there was a margin call on longs and I think the same thing is happening here on btc-e.

Historically a good time buy after longs get squeezed as sell pressure should be evaporated  ;)

I have a very rough, sketchy understanding of what longs are, but what's a margin call?


http://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/margincall.asp

Basically a margin call on long positions will happen if the price hits the "break-even" point of said longs.

Their positions needs to be liquidated because if the price went any lower it would be impossible to pay off their margin positions


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: wasserman99 on August 19, 2014, 02:28:13 AM
Ethereum openly admitted that they're dumping massive amounts of coins. I think around 20k btc. The dump will just eat up all the buy orders, so btc price won't rebound at least until the dump is complete. It might just so happen the dump is happening on btc-e.
I thought they were selling closer to 2k coins? I could be mistaken but I am pretty sure this is the more accurate number. I would argue that the price dropping so much was due to the fact that btc-e likely made their margin requirements more strict and by doing so created a very large margin call across many accounts.


Title: Re: BTC price manipulated today! proof on BTC-E check out time stamps
Post by: falllling on August 19, 2014, 03:39:53 AM
bitstamp will follow soon! $3xx incoming!