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Title: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: CIYAM on August 20, 2014, 04:39:57 PM
So we've all noticed the new "legendary member" status - just a post to say to all "newbies" that even us "legendary members" were also newbies once and also understand that as accounts are *sold* here don't think that just because a forum member appears to be "legendary" doesn't mean they couldn't actually be a scammer.

Before you *trust* any forum member you'd be best to check that member's posting history and also their reputation (and no - my account is not for sale).


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: dumbdragon on August 20, 2014, 04:41:29 PM
Equally, although it hasn't been explicitly stated, don't think that newbies really are new here either. I mean you go to the Lending sub-forum and half the posters are newbies but naturally they have been there before and keen just to scam a quick buck...

I've not seen this level of account buying and selling though since I came to this forum. Seems the PrimeDice collapse has really triggered some firesales.


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: Luckylui on August 20, 2014, 04:42:57 PM
I was Full Member until I got hacked.. Back to the boards for me!


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: RodeoX on August 20, 2014, 04:43:49 PM
I'm reminded daily that I am a newb at so many things related to bitcoin. Frankly, I like learning new things. Being a perma-nub is fine with me.


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: JohnFromWIT on August 20, 2014, 05:07:54 PM
So we've all noticed the new "legendary member" status - just a post to say to all "newbies" that even us "legendary members" were also newbies once and also understand that as accounts are *sold* here don't think that just because a forum member appears to be "legendary" doesn't mean they couldn't actually be a scammer.

Before you *trust* any forum member you'd be best to check that member's posting history and also their reputation (and no - my account is not for sale).

Sincere and simple message.
Glad to hear it and will hold onto the warning.

I have a related question.
I'm assuming that most legendary players, not just here, but people regarded as great assets to bitcoin as a whole,
that these people all came to bitcoin with transferable knowledge & experience of computer science, cryptography, market economics or one of many other useful subjects of knowledge.
Am I wrong in this? Is there anyone you regard as a bitcoin gem that came into it with zero useful knowledge?


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: CIYAM on August 20, 2014, 05:19:50 PM
Am I wrong in this? Is there anyone you regard as a bitcoin gem that came into it with zero useful knowledge?

There are a few *gems* here but unfortunately they are buried under the "pile of crap" that makes money out of of people that don't think carefully.

Look towards those than generally only post in the Technical sub-forums for quality posts (steer well away from the Speculation sub-forum).


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on August 20, 2014, 05:21:10 PM
true. dont listen to legends  :P


damn, i wish i had an activity of 1022  :D


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: CIYAM on August 20, 2014, 05:23:37 PM
damn, i wish i had an activity of 1022  :D

To be honest it has been hard lately as there has been few *quality* topics to post in lately.


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: MaxDZ8 on August 20, 2014, 05:27:02 PM
Hello CIYAM, thanks for the warning!

I am surprised to know members here sell their accounts. I assume that means they're not flush with money as everybody says? :P
I have a pretty well considered profile on a long-standing website but I'd never sell it!


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: CIYAM on August 20, 2014, 05:29:11 PM
I am surprised to know members here sell their accounts. I assume that means they're not flush with money as everybody says? :P

The whole account selling thing is a problem but as long as the forum is going to allow it I think everyone needs to be warned not to trust accounts just because of "their status".

If you ever see my account offering some *investment* then know that it is not me (in my entire post history I have never done that)!


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: bbit on August 20, 2014, 05:32:36 PM
So we've all noticed the new "legendary member" status - just a post to say to all "newbies" that even us "legendary members" were also newbies once and also understand that as accounts are *sold* here don't think that just because a forum member appears to be "legendary" doesn't mean they couldn't actually be a scammer.

Before you *trust* any forum member you'd be best to check that member's posting history and also their reputation (and no - my account is not for sale).


THis is correct. I miss the newb days :)


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: Melbustus on August 20, 2014, 05:44:49 PM
...
Look towards those than generally only post in the Technical sub-forums for quality posts (steer well away from the Speculation sub-forum).



Agree that the Tech forum is where much of the best discussion takes place. Disagree that people should categorically stay away from the Speculation sub-forum. Some of the most macro-economically thought-provoking discussion I've found anywhere over the past few years has occurred in the gold-vs-bitcoin threads that live in the Spec section.


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: CIYAM on August 20, 2014, 05:46:19 PM
Disagree that people should categorically stay away from the Speculation sub-forum. Some of the most macro-economically thought-provoking discussion I've found anywhere over the past few years has occurred in the gold-vs-bitcoin threads that live in the Spec section.

You are braver than me. :)

But okay - glad to know there is some useful stuff there after all.


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: yayayo on August 20, 2014, 05:47:20 PM
I'm not sure if adding another rank is really such a good idea. There isn't a problem with having a high number of hero members. I think it is preferable to simply increase the number of posts to attain each rank if a better differentiation of users is the aim.

After some time we'll have as much legendary members as we have hero members today. What rank is to be introduced next? Maybe "divine hero"? :D

I see rank inflation approaching.

ya.ya.yo!


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: CIYAM on August 20, 2014, 05:50:55 PM
After some time we'll have as much legendary members as we have hero members today. What rank is to be introduced next? Maybe "divine hero"? :D

Yes - I am thinking "old fart" might be the next rank. ;D


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: Melbustus on August 20, 2014, 05:54:05 PM
Disagree that people should categorically stay away from the Speculation sub-forum. Some of the most macro-economically thought-provoking discussion I've found anywhere over the past few years has occurred in the gold-vs-bitcoin threads that live in the Spec section.

You are braver than me. :)

But okay - glad to know there is some useful stuff there after all.



Heh... Yeah, requires wading through lots of trash... But not nearly as much as in the alt-coin sub-forum!


Edit: fixed typo


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: CIYAM on August 20, 2014, 05:56:38 PM
But nearly as much as in the alt-coin sub-forum!

Haha - yes I am still "cleansing myself" after my unfortunate "dunk" in those waters.


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: MyPotPlantDied on August 20, 2014, 08:27:28 PM
I am surprised to know members here sell their accounts. I assume that means they're not flush with money as everybody says? :P

The whole account selling thing is a problem but as long as the forum is going to allow it I think everyone needs to be warned not to trust accounts just because of "their status".

If you ever see my account offering some *investment* then know that it is not me (in my entire post history I have never done that)!


Solid advice. Though I doubt that many (if any) Legendary level accounts have been sold, I am sure many JR-SR and even some hero level accounts have so checking the post history is the best way to be safe.


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: ChuckBuck on August 20, 2014, 08:41:38 PM
Sage advice from a Legendary member.   :)

I kinda miss "Newbie Hell", before Theymos or whoever done away with it.  You were forced to abide by posting timeouts, posting only in the Newbie forum, forced to witness and pay attention to how senior members posted and interacted in the main forum topics.

I only recently became a Senior member, but I still don't feel Senior in my knowledge or know how regarding Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.  Personally, I'm learning something new everyday here in BCT, and just being a sponge to the Legendary and Hero members that post quality threads here and there.

As for the selling of accounts, I'm kinda ambivalent to it.  If users want to pay for an account to use for sig campaign, to use for whatever purpose, I guess technically there's no rules or guidelines against it.  As the others have been saying, before dealing or doing business with any member, Newbie all the way up to Legendary, you have to check Trust, Post History, and if possible USE ESCROW DAMIT!   ;D


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: MineForeman.com on August 20, 2014, 08:41:49 PM
Is it bad that I only recently realized that there were ranks at all on forums?  

Oh, I know there were admins etc.. I just did not realize that individual members had rankings ;) .

Neil


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on August 20, 2014, 08:42:24 PM
So we've all noticed the new "legendary member" status - just a post to say to all "newbies" that even us "legendary members" were also newbies once and also understand that as accounts are *sold* here don't think that just because a forum member appears to be "legendary" doesn't mean they couldn't actually be a scammer.

Before you *trust* any forum member you'd be best to check that member's posting history and also their reputation (and no - my account is not for sale).



but can i trust you when you say, trust nobody  :P ?


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: evanito on August 20, 2014, 09:01:27 PM
Newbies aren't a scourge nor does it represent inexperience. It really just shows that they are new to the social side of bitcoin or at the very least bitcointalk.org. That said, there are always scammers. People would stop at nothing to get some of your "magically" untraceable currency.


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on August 20, 2014, 09:06:55 PM
I would have to agree with OP, I've been a member since 2011, but I am not very intimate with the Bitcoin protocol.


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: mskryxz on August 20, 2014, 11:06:01 PM
What determines our rank? Number of posts? Hours logged in? Date joined?


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: snappa4ever on August 20, 2014, 11:14:08 PM
There are a tremendous amount of warnings about using escrow and not using post count or rank as a measure as to how trustworthy someone is.

The only reliable way to measure someone's trustworthiness is via the trust system (and only with people that are on the default trust list). People that have used their account in many deals tend to not sell their account (at least from what I can tell).


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on August 20, 2014, 11:19:08 PM
What determines our rank? Number of posts? Hours logged in? Date joined?
I believe it's either posts or activity. If it's posts it's definitely somewhere above 2400, for activity somewhere above 1000.


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: Beliathon on August 20, 2014, 11:23:51 PM
damn, i wish i had an activity of 1022  :D

To be honest it has been hard lately as there has been few *quality* topics to post in lately.

I have this fun hobby of finding absolutely shit threads, and then adding a dose of reality and wit to make them winners.


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: mskryxz on August 20, 2014, 11:31:02 PM
What determines our rank? Number of posts? Hours logged in? Date joined?
I believe it's either posts or activity. If it's posts it's definitely somewhere above 2400, for activity somewhere above 1000.

If it is by activity points, what actions increases our points? Posts? Time spent? Quality of our posts?

Thanks for the reply and info :)


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on August 20, 2014, 11:35:19 PM
damn, i wish i had an activity of 1022  :D

To be honest it has been hard lately as there has been few *quality* topics to post in lately.


Well most of the good stuff is always in D@T
Some have started appearing in alternate crytocurrencies of all places as well but that's development discussion.


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: OzHSV on August 21, 2014, 12:22:53 AM
How to get legendary status  ???


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: Yuki1988 on August 21, 2014, 02:00:45 AM
How to get legendary status  ???

You need to have activity somewhere between 775 and 1030 (each user has a different random number).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178608.0
Legendary: Activity: the Legendary membergroup has no universal activity requirement.
You are guaranteed to become Legendary somewhere between 775 and 1030 activity,
but the exact point in this range at which you become Legendary is random per user.


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: gelar24 on August 21, 2014, 07:59:03 AM
how long it took you to reach legendary?
and since when did you join this forum?  :)


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: lynn_402 on August 21, 2014, 12:40:49 PM
How to get legendary status  ???

You need to have activity somewhere between 775 and 1030 (each user has a different random number).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178608.0
Legendary: Activity: the Legendary membergroup has no universal activity requirement.
You are guaranteed to become Legendary somewhere between 775 and 1030 activity,
but the exact point in this range at which you become Legendary is random per user.

In other words, you need to have been active since the beginnings of the forum, or to stay active for a few more years :P


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: CIYAM on August 21, 2014, 12:43:53 PM
how long it took you to reach legendary?
and since when did you join this forum?  :)

Assuming you are asking me about this the answers are:

- as soon as the legendary status was introduced (in the last week?)
- I joined late 2011 (had lurked since mid 2011 which was when I first read about Bitcoin)


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: meadefreling on August 21, 2014, 03:26:54 PM
It is good to know,being a newbie isn't a crime cause i look at some comments made by higher ranking members and i imagine when i get to that stage.By the way ,thanks CIYAM all your warnings are noted.


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: CIYAM on August 21, 2014, 03:32:37 PM
It is good to know,being a newbie isn't a crime.

As I stated - "we all were newbies once" so don't worry - if you find the forum interesting or useful then you'll *grow*.


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: thermost on August 21, 2014, 06:04:13 PM
Maybe one day I'll be legendary  :'(  ;D

Will be glad when my post limit gets removed *shakes fist*


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: DomoMan on August 21, 2014, 06:09:21 PM
How much time is it needed in time?


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: mskryxz on August 21, 2014, 10:51:13 PM
How to get legendary status  ???

You need to have activity somewhere between 775 and 1030 (each user has a different random number).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178608.0
Legendary: Activity: the Legendary membergroup has no universal activity requirement.
You are guaranteed to become Legendary somewhere between 775 and 1030 activity,
but the exact point in this range at which you become Legendary is random per user.

This is was very helpful. Thanks!


Title: Re: Even us *legendary* members were *newbies* once
Post by: Dannie on August 22, 2014, 08:02:20 AM
How much time is it needed in time?

Even at the lowest requirement (775 activity), it will take you more than 2 years to reach that, provided that you are going to be active in every period. :)