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Title: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: Wilikon on August 21, 2014, 04:22:35 PM




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Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: Chef Ramsay on August 21, 2014, 05:54:45 PM
Rick is obviously in the right here but it really burns me that this serves as a boost to his credentials on the heels of him likely running for President. If people thought the US military was bulls on parade back during the Bush years, you're gonna be in for something special if this guy is elected. Which is why we all need to get behind Rand Paul.


Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: Wilikon on August 21, 2014, 06:19:36 PM
Rick is obviously in the right here but it really burns me that this serves as a boost to his credentials on the heels of him likely running for President. If people thought the US military was bulls on parade back during the Bush years, you're gonna be in for something special if this guy is elected. Which is why we all need to get behind Rand Paul.

Democrats will make sure to turn Perry into Bush 2.0 because he is from Texas (stupid cowboys, stupid farmers, illiterates, worse of the worse, not like us intellectuals)

I am not even sure Rand wants to be president.



Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: Chef Ramsay on August 21, 2014, 06:26:50 PM
Rick is obviously in the right here but it really burns me that this serves as a boost to his credentials on the heels of him likely running for President. If people thought the US military was bulls on parade back during the Bush years, you're gonna be in for something special if this guy is elected. Which is why we all need to get behind Rand Paul.

Democrats will make sure to turn Perry into Bush 2.0 because he is from Texas (stupid cowboys, stupid farmers, illiterates, worse of the worse, not like us intellectuals)

I am not even sure Rand wants to be president.


Whether he wants to or not, he's sure indicating he's doing everything he can to build a team and donor base to do so. Not to mention the reaching out to minorities shows that he really wants to be the leader of growing the GOP so all signs point to his initiative in the matter. I'm chronicling all of this in my thread about him. I totally agree that the dems will portray Perry as another Bush but let's face it, most Americans are fiending for something different right now.


Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: Spendulus on August 21, 2014, 11:41:50 PM
Rick is obviously in the right here but it really burns me that this serves as a boost to his credentials on the heels of him likely running for President. If people thought the US military was bulls on parade back during the Bush years, you're gonna be in for something special if this guy is elected. Which is why we all need to get behind Rand Paul.

Democrats will make sure to turn Perry into Bush 2.0 because he is from Texas (stupid cowboys, stupid farmers, illiterates, worse of the worse, not like us intellectuals)

I am not even sure Rand wants to be president.


The Washington crowd pretty much did this with LBJ, and then with Clinton....

Suddenly the Lil'Abner comic strip became VERBOTEN. 

LOL, I always thought the cliche Arkansas redneck was way lower on the totem pole than Texas.

Rand is serious about POTUS.  He's been working for at least three years in that direction.


Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: itsAj on August 22, 2014, 05:05:55 AM
Rick is obviously in the right here but it really burns me that this serves as a boost to his credentials on the heels of him likely running for President. If people thought the US military was bulls on parade back during the Bush years, you're gonna be in for something special if this guy is elected. Which is why we all need to get behind Rand Paul.

Democrats will make sure to turn Perry into Bush 2.0 because he is from Texas (stupid cowboys, stupid farmers, illiterates, worse of the worse, not like us intellectuals)

I am not even sure Rand wants to be president.


Whether he wants to or not, he's sure indicating he's doing everything he can to build a team and donor base to do so. Not to mention the reaching out to minorities shows that he really wants to be the leader of growing the GOP so all signs point to his initiative in the matter. I'm chronicling all of this in my thread about him. I totally agree that the dems will portray Perry as another Bush but let's face it, most Americans are fiending for something different right now.
Well looking back Bush really does not look all that bad right now. He started two wars in eight years, however a few short years after he left office, several democracies started popping up near where these wars took place and near where we installed new democracies. His economic policies also were good enough to have solid economic growth for most of his presidency.

I do agree though that Perry is very much in the right to do what he did and is very much innocent. What is being done to him is as abuse of power and political.


Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: fdiini on August 22, 2014, 09:15:10 AM
Rick Perry has publicly said he will welcome bitcoin trading in texas.

We need to support governor like him.


Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: Wilikon on August 22, 2014, 03:14:44 PM
Rick Perry has publicly said he will welcome bitcoin trading in texas.

We need to support governor like him.

This is the kind of thread I like...  :D ;) :D



Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: Chef Ramsay on August 22, 2014, 05:55:10 PM
Rick Perry has publicly said he will welcome bitcoin trading in texas.

We need to support governor like him.
I'm not sure Perry said this about Bitcoin but his likely replacement said that on the campaign trail and also accepts Bitcoin for his campaign.


Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: Spendulus on August 22, 2014, 09:45:08 PM
Rick Perry has publicly said he will welcome bitcoin trading in texas.

We need to support governor like him.

http://thedailybanter.com/2014/06/gop-gubernatorial-candidate-now-accepts-bitcoin-donations/

Abbot is a good man.

And takes bitcoin.

And I'm going to send him some.


Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: itsAj on August 23, 2014, 06:26:44 PM
Rick Perry has publicly said he will welcome bitcoin trading in texas.

We need to support governor like him.
I'm not sure Perry said this about Bitcoin but his likely replacement said that on the campaign trail and also accepts Bitcoin for his campaign.
I think it would actually be a bad idea for a lot of candidates to be accepting bitcoin for campaign donations. Since it is very difficult to know for sure who donated, someone could easily run 200 BTC though bitmixer, have it send the mixed coins to 100 addresses, then they could make it look like his 200 BTC donation came from 100 different people, and this person would have undue influence on the candidate. 


Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: Spendulus on August 23, 2014, 10:34:46 PM
Rick Perry has publicly said he will welcome bitcoin trading in texas.

We need to support governor like him.
I'm not sure Perry said this about Bitcoin but his likely replacement said that on the campaign trail and also accepts Bitcoin for his campaign.
I think it would actually be a bad idea for a lot of candidates to be accepting bitcoin for campaign donations. Since it is very difficult to know for sure who donated, someone could easily run 200 BTC though bitmixer, have it send the mixed coins to 100 addresses, then they could make it look like his 200 BTC donation came from 100 different people, and this person would have undue influence on the candidate. 
You mean it might be like the $90M of undocumented overseas contributions to Obama's first campaign, that were never investigated?

You mean it might mean that the IRS would not know who the donators to the Tea Party were, so they could not audit 10% of them?



Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: FloodZone on August 24, 2014, 12:26:58 PM
What the hell I have just watched?


Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: Spendulus on August 24, 2014, 01:35:32 PM


......

What the hell I have just watched?

It's quite strange.  It started out as a "smear the politician on the other side" thread, this morphed into "our guy is the good guy", and that in turn morphed into "He advocates bitcoin."

It's strange because (as I think should be the case) advocacy of free bitcoin trading should trump political left or right party affiliation.

At least to some strong degree. 



Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: Wilikon on August 24, 2014, 03:06:49 PM

Keep up with the news from Texas and you'll know exactly.  ;)
If you do not live in the US then this does not matter to you.





Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: Wilikon on August 24, 2014, 03:56:48 PM


......

What the hell I have just watched?

It's quite strange.  It started out as a "smear the politician on the other side" thread, this morphed into "our guy is the good guy", and that in turn morphed into "He advocates bitcoin."

It's strange because (as I think should be the case) advocacy of free bitcoin trading should trump political left or right party affiliation.

At least to some strong degree. 



I did use that cool morphing app to create my Animated DA Troll from Hell, so it is logical to have this thread to morph from one topic to another.

https://i.imgur.com/QFe1635.png




Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: Wilikon on August 24, 2014, 06:33:24 PM




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Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: countryfree on August 24, 2014, 10:39:36 PM
That's the guy saying Islamic terrorists will invade the US coming from Mexico, right?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/23/mexico-rick-perry-islamic_n_5703361.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/23/mexico-rick-perry-islamic_n_5703361.html)

This is assuredly the biggest BS I've heard this month. The guy may be BTC friendly, and that's cool, but the world has yet to see a Mexican jihadist, and he should know that. People should remember 9/11 attackers came as tourists with valid visas. They didn't cross the border illegally.


Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: Spendulus on August 25, 2014, 02:02:00 PM
That's the guy saying Islamic terrorists will invade the US coming from Mexico, right?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/23/mexico-rick-perry-islamic_n_5703361.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/23/mexico-rick-perry-islamic_n_5703361.html)

This is assuredly the biggest BS I've heard this month. The guy may be BTC friendly, and that's cool, but the world has yet to see a Mexican jihadist, and he should know that. People should remember 9/11 attackers came as tourists with valid visas. They didn't cross the border illegally.
No, this shows ignorance of the situation.  First, the Feds have warned Texas about this matter.  It's common knowledge. 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/26/terror-alert-mexican-border/

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/napolitano-terrorists-enter-us-mexico-time-time

http://mrconservative.com/2013/06/18667-muslim-terrorists-caught-crossing-us-border/

If the Obama administration warns Perry about terrorists crossing the Texas border into the US, and then Perry repeats this concern, can the liberal left then use Perry's comments as evidence of buffoonery?

I guess so, since their new target is "low information voters."

LOL....



Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: countryfree on August 25, 2014, 10:39:54 PM
That's the guy saying Islamic terrorists will invade the US coming from Mexico, right?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/23/mexico-rick-perry-islamic_n_5703361.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/23/mexico-rick-perry-islamic_n_5703361.html)

This is assuredly the biggest BS I've heard this month. The guy may be BTC friendly, and that's cool, but the world has yet to see a Mexican jihadist, and he should know that. People should remember 9/11 attackers came as tourists with valid visas. They didn't cross the border illegally.
No, this shows ignorance of the situation.  First, the Feds have warned Texas about this matter.  It's common knowledge. 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/26/terror-alert-mexican-border/

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/napolitano-terrorists-enter-us-mexico-time-time

http://mrconservative.com/2013/06/18667-muslim-terrorists-caught-crossing-us-border/

If the Obama administration warns Perry about terrorists crossing the Texas border into the US, and then Perry repeats this concern, can the liberal left then use Perry's comments as evidence of buffoonery?

I guess so, since their new target is "low information voters."

LOL....

I'm certainly no part of the liberal left (even though this would have to clearly defined), but I didn't know the Feds had warned Texas about this. I'll add I'm pretty surprised with that. I've had the opportunity to meet and to talk with people who had crossed borders illegally, and they were... Peasants. Really poor folks. Exactly the opposite of the man I've seen (yeah, I watched the whole video) beheading American journalist James Foley. That guy was soft-spoken, he spoke good English, and talked like an educated man, even though he had crazy ideas. I'm sure this man has a passport, and that he travels by plane. Then the world has seen that IS is very well-funded. So some people scare others with poor immigrants, but the real terrorists are elsewhere. Remember Bin Laden was from one of Saudi Arabia's richest families.


Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: Wilikon on August 25, 2014, 11:02:26 PM
That's the guy saying Islamic terrorists will invade the US coming from Mexico, right?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/23/mexico-rick-perry-islamic_n_5703361.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/23/mexico-rick-perry-islamic_n_5703361.html)

This is assuredly the biggest BS I've heard this month. The guy may be BTC friendly, and that's cool, but the world has yet to see a Mexican jihadist, and he should know that. People should remember 9/11 attackers came as tourists with valid visas. They didn't cross the border illegally.
No, this shows ignorance of the situation.  First, the Feds have warned Texas about this matter.  It's common knowledge. 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/26/terror-alert-mexican-border/

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/napolitano-terrorists-enter-us-mexico-time-time

http://mrconservative.com/2013/06/18667-muslim-terrorists-caught-crossing-us-border/

If the Obama administration warns Perry about terrorists crossing the Texas border into the US, and then Perry repeats this concern, can the liberal left then use Perry's comments as evidence of buffoonery?

I guess so, since their new target is "low information voters."

LOL....

I'm certainly no part of the liberal left (even though this would have to clearly defined), but I didn't know the Feds had warned Texas about this. I'll add I'm pretty surprised with that. I've had the opportunity to meet and to talk with people who had crossed borders illegally, and they were... Peasants. Really poor folks. Exactly the opposite of the man I've seen (yeah, I watched the whole video) beheading American journalist James Foley. That guy was soft-spoken, he spoke good English, and talked like an educated man, even though he had crazy ideas. I'm sure this man has a passport, and that he travels by plane. Then the world has seen that IS is very well-funded. So some people scare others with poor immigrants, but the real terrorists are elsewhere. Remember Bin Laden was from one of Saudi Arabia's richest families.


We have yet to see a terrorist leader to be a peasant, but the outcome of this game theory is deadly simple: A) Perry is a fool and no one dies in a busy street, subway, etc... B) Perry was right and obama will have the color red on his hands for forcing the country to turn blue by hijacking the constitution...

Let's see who win. Hope my family and yours will stay safe.



Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: Spendulus on August 26, 2014, 03:16:47 PM
That's the guy saying Islamic terrorists will invade the US coming from Mexico, right?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/23/mexico-rick-perry-islamic_n_5703361.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/23/mexico-rick-perry-islamic_n_5703361.html)

This is assuredly the biggest BS I've heard this month. The guy may be BTC friendly, and that's cool, but the world has yet to see a Mexican jihadist, and he should know that. People should remember 9/11 attackers came as tourists with valid visas. They didn't cross the border illegally.
No, this shows ignorance of the situation.  First, the Feds have warned Texas about this matter.  It's common knowledge. 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/26/terror-alert-mexican-border/

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/napolitano-terrorists-enter-us-mexico-time-time

http://mrconservative.com/2013/06/18667-muslim-terrorists-caught-crossing-us-border/

If the Obama administration warns Perry about terrorists crossing the Texas border into the US, and then Perry repeats this concern, can the liberal left then use Perry's comments as evidence of buffoonery?

I guess so, since their new target is "low information voters."

LOL....

I'm certainly no part of the liberal left (even though this would have to clearly defined), but I didn't know the Feds had warned Texas about this. I'll add I'm pretty surprised with that. I've had the opportunity to meet and to talk with people who had crossed borders illegally, and they were... Peasants. Really poor folks. Exactly the opposite of the man I've seen (yeah, I watched the whole video) beheading American journalist James Foley. That guy was soft-spoken, he spoke good English, and talked like an educated man, even though he had crazy ideas. I'm sure this man has a passport, and that he travels by plane. Then the world has seen that IS is very well-funded. So some people scare others with poor immigrants, but the real terrorists are elsewhere. Remember Bin Laden was from one of Saudi Arabia's richest families.

Um, this is a false analogy.  Because you've seen one or several of a population or class, does not mean that your attribution of characteristics extends to the outliers of that class.

I live among lots of illegal Mexicans, and ones that got legalized, and Hispanics that trace their roots in the southern US back five centuries.

Here's the problem.  When a border such as the 700 miles of the southern US is virtually unprotected, then normal passport and immigrant control procedures don't function.   This means that you get bad buys coming in, people with communicable diseases such as TB coming in, etc. 

Now since the whole world knows about the weakness of the southern border, it is a rational guess that terrorists would come in that way.  They would prefer it over Passport Control at Logan.  Or JFK.  For the most part these individuals are going to look and act different than the average peasants (that is a correct definition of the average Mexican coming over, by the way). 

But there isn't anyone to see and check them, is there?

So it's a real problem.


Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: countryfree on August 27, 2014, 10:31:50 AM
Well check this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/08/27/how-douglas-mcarthur-mccain-became-the-first-american-to-die-fighting-for-the-islamic-state/

This was a terrorist, he was an American citizen. I don't think he was related to the senator of Arizona, though, but it shows that if there's a risk of terrorists coming illegally through the Southern border, a much bigger threat is with people entering U.S. soil legally.


Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: Wilikon on August 29, 2014, 08:41:01 PM
That's the guy saying Islamic terrorists will invade the US coming from Mexico, right?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/23/mexico-rick-perry-islamic_n_5703361.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/23/mexico-rick-perry-islamic_n_5703361.html)

This is assuredly the biggest BS I've heard this month. The guy may be BTC friendly, and that's cool, but the world has yet to see a Mexican jihadist, and he should know that. People should remember 9/11 attackers came as tourists with valid visas. They didn't cross the border illegally.





http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/386694/judicial-watch-feds-bulletin-describes-threat-imminent-terrorist-attack-southern




Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: Spendulus on August 29, 2014, 10:51:33 PM
That's the guy saying Islamic terrorists will invade the US coming from Mexico, right?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/23/mexico-rick-perry-islamic_n_5703361.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/23/mexico-rick-perry-islamic_n_5703361.html)

This is assuredly the biggest BS I've heard this month. The guy may be BTC friendly, and that's cool, but the world has yet to see a Mexican jihadist, and he should know that. People should remember 9/11 attackers came as tourists with valid visas. They didn't cross the border illegally.





http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/386694/judicial-watch-feds-bulletin-describes-threat-imminent-terrorist-attack-southern



A fair number of people down in South Texas have concealed carry permits or routinely carry (legally) firearms in their cars. 

We'll see how these baddies make out. 

I should mention too that the Mexican Cartels are not going to be on friendly terms with Islamic crazies.


Title: Re: Rick Perry: Setting the Record Straight
Post by: Wilikon on August 30, 2014, 12:08:34 AM
That's the guy saying Islamic terrorists will invade the US coming from Mexico, right?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/23/mexico-rick-perry-islamic_n_5703361.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/23/mexico-rick-perry-islamic_n_5703361.html)

This is assuredly the biggest BS I've heard this month. The guy may be BTC friendly, and that's cool, but the world has yet to see a Mexican jihadist, and he should know that. People should remember 9/11 attackers came as tourists with valid visas. They didn't cross the border illegally.





http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/386694/judicial-watch-feds-bulletin-describes-threat-imminent-terrorist-attack-southern



A fair number of people down in South Texas have concealed carry permits or routinely carry (legally) firearms in their cars. 

We'll see how these baddies make out. 

I should mention too that the Mexican Cartels are not going to be on friendly terms with Islamic crazies.

... Unless they make a deal telling the cartel they are not going to be their target? ISIS hit the jackpot with that bank. was it $400 M?
In theory they are crazy for everyone on this planet. But who knows.