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Title: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: Wulfcastle on August 22, 2014, 09:06:33 PM
Hey everyone

I've been wondering, what actually happened to eMunie. It was all anyone could talk about in January this year, but after their lead developer cancelled the IPO, I've heard nothing since. Has it been abandoned, is it still going to be launched?


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: darkota on August 22, 2014, 09:55:54 PM
Hey everyone

I've been wondering, what actually happened to eMunie. It was all anyone could talk about in January this year, but after their lead developer cancelled the IPO, I've heard nothing since. Has it been abandoned, is it still going to be launched?

It's been abandoned after the developer claimed he got hacked.

Was Ill-informed< It's not abandoned after the hacking.


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: tokyoghetto on August 22, 2014, 11:01:26 PM
dev stole money, claimed he got hacked. project is kill.

another day in cryptoland.


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: Iffy on August 22, 2014, 11:28:08 PM
wow nice assumption people. No, the project is very much alive and getting closer to release.


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: Fuserleer on August 22, 2014, 11:30:06 PM
so so wrong!

Dev did get hacked, Dev doesn't take kindly to false accusations (though Ive come to expect nothing less from the majority here), Dev has reimbursed everyone (notice there is no "FUSERLEER STOLE MY BTC" threads?), Dev kindly points you to the door.

To the OP, project is still very alive and kicking, its funny you should post this today as I've been considering recently releasing some info on our progress....though with the usual trollish remarks and FUD bullshit I'm having 2nd thoughts already and beginning to think that my abandonment of this place was the right move :)


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: MsCollec on August 22, 2014, 11:31:27 PM
so so wrong!

Dev did get hacked, Dev doesn't take kindly to false accusations (though Ive come to expect nothing less from the majority here), Dev has reimbursed everyone (notice there is no "FUSERLEER STOLE MY BTC" threads?), Dev kindly points you to the door.

To the OP, project is still very alive and kicking, its funny you should post this today as I've been considering recently releasing some info on our progress....though with the usual trollish remarks and FUD bullshit I'm having 2nd thoughts already and beginning to think that my abandonment of this place was the right move :)

Nice to see you here Fuserleer!  ;D


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: From Above on August 22, 2014, 11:32:38 PM
fuserleer had some issues when Spoetnik stole his private unsecured funds so project hadda stop for a while and everyone lost interest

~CfA~


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: Fuserleer on August 22, 2014, 11:33:20 PM
so so wrong!

Dev did get hacked, Dev doesn't take kindly to false accusations (though Ive come to expect nothing less from the majority here), Dev has reimbursed everyone (notice there is no "FUSERLEER STOLE MY BTC" threads?), Dev kindly points you to the door.

To the OP, project is still very alive and kicking, its funny you should post this today as I've been considering recently releasing some info on our progress....though with the usual trollish remarks and FUD bullshit I'm having 2nd thoughts already and beginning to think that my abandonment of this place was the right move :)

Nice to see you here Fuserleer!  ;D

Unsure if genuine, or sarcasm....regardless, nice to see you too :)


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: MsCollec on August 22, 2014, 11:37:11 PM
so so wrong!

Dev did get hacked, Dev doesn't take kindly to false accusations (though Ive come to expect nothing less from the majority here), Dev has reimbursed everyone (notice there is no "FUSERLEER STOLE MY BTC" threads?), Dev kindly points you to the door.

To the OP, project is still very alive and kicking, its funny you should post this today as I've been considering recently releasing some info on our progress....though with the usual trollish remarks and FUD bullshit I'm having 2nd thoughts already and beginning to think that my abandonment of this place was the right move :)

Nice to see you here Fuserleer!  ;D

Unsure if genuine, or sarcasm....regardless, nice to see you too :)

Lol..it's genius The last update i got from my friend about eMunie was the market and stable eMu client, that was July 9  :-\

EDIT: Maybe one day i will get a post card from you ..I am a big eMunie fan  :P


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: From Above on August 22, 2014, 11:41:50 PM
how much was stolen again?  i remember Spoetnik bragging on the forums that he basically destroyed fuser's life funds really not funny at all from my perspectives

~CfA~


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: Fuserleer on August 22, 2014, 11:42:38 PM
heh, well lots more to come yet  :D

PS: I'll send you an encrypted anonymous postcard when we are online lol


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: Fuserleer on August 22, 2014, 11:44:30 PM
how much was stolen again?  i remember Spoetnik bragging on the forums that he basically destroyed fuser's life funds really not funny at all from my perspectives

~CfA~

In total just over 900BTC.  ~450 of that was investments, the rest was my own.

And from what I've read of Spoetnik, he's not smart enough to have pulled the theft off.  Even if it WAS him, all he did was cause a few cashflow issues and well, the bounty just rolled up to 50BTC, so he should probably stay quiet about it :)


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: MsCollec on August 22, 2014, 11:44:36 PM
heh, well lots more to come yet  :D

PS: I'll send you an encrypted anonymous postcard when we are online lol

Nice, Hopefully I will be the first to register "MsCollec" as an alias .

Thanks and Good luck !


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: Whoisthelorax on August 23, 2014, 12:44:01 AM
how much was stolen again?  i remember Spoetnik bragging on the forums that he basically destroyed fuser's life funds really not funny at all from my perspectives

~CfA~

In total just over 900BTC.  ~450 of that was investments, the rest was my own.

And from what I've read of Spoetnik, he's not smart enough to have pulled the theft off.  Even if it WAS him, all he did was cause a few cashflow issues and well, the bounty just rolled up to 50BTC, so he should probably stay quiet about it :)

450 x $450 per btc = $202,950

450 x $500/btc = $225,00

450 x 550 = $247,500

450 x 600 = $270,00

This is a low range of what 450 BTC would be.

How in the hell did you reimburse around a quarter million dollars?!?



Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: Lauda on August 23, 2014, 12:48:10 AM
In total just over 900BTC.  ~450 of that was investments, the rest was my own.

And from what I've read of Spoetnik, he's not smart enough to have pulled the theft off.  Even if it WAS him, all he did was cause a few cashflow issues and well, the bounty just rolled up to 50BTC, so he should probably stay quiet about it :)
Trust me, you won't be finding out who the hacker is. No matter how large the bounty gets.  ;)
How in the name of everything that is crypto did you reimburse such a large sum?


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: From Above on August 23, 2014, 12:50:16 AM
Trust me, you won't be finding out who the hacker is. No matter how large the bounty gets.  ;)
How in the name of everything that is crypto did you reimburse such a large sum?


wow i'd be very very careful here. laudaM is a known darkcoin scammer and well known to be cooperator with Spoetnik on several hacks and cracks.

i wouldnt be surprised at all if shes in the bed with Spoetnik and pulled off this massive theft  and now mocking fuserleer.  this is brazen.  outright brazen.

~CfA~


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: Fuserleer on August 23, 2014, 12:53:14 AM
Trust me, you won't be finding out who the hacker is. No matter how large the bounty gets.  ;)
How in the name of everything that is crypto did you reimburse such a large sum?


wow i'd be very very careful here. laudaM is a known darkcoin scammer and well known to be cooperator with Spoetnik on several hacks and cracks.

i wouldnt be surprised at all if shes in the bed with Spoetnik and pulled off this massive theft  and now mocking fuserleer.  this is brazen.  outright brazen.

~CfA~

LaudaM maybe a lot of things, but I must defend the guy as he's been around here much longer than many....and while we may not see eye to eye on many things, a scammer I don't believe he is.

In reply to the how I reimbursed so much, I've explained about me, myself and Irene in the past and been called a liar and mocked....but I'll say it again, I'm a man of much experience and many means, and the theft was simply a hit I could foot the bill for.


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: Lauda on August 23, 2014, 12:59:46 AM
wow i'd be very very careful here. laudaM is a known darkcoin scammer and well known to be cooperator with Spoetnik on several hacks and cracks.
i wouldnt be surprised at all if shes in the bed with Spoetnik and pulled off this massive theft  and now mocking fuserleer.  this is brazen.  outright brazen.
~CfA~

LaudaM maybe a lot of things, but I must defend the guy as he's been around here much longer than many....and while we may not see eye to eye on many things, a scammer I don't believe he is.

In reply to the how I reimbursed so much, I've explained about me, myself and Irene in the past and been called a liar and mocked....but I'll say it again, I'm a man of much experience and many means, and the theft was simply a hit I could foot the bill for.
Known darkcoin scammer? Exactly where did I scam anyone please. If you're going to be pointing fingers at least provide evidence.
Also I have never cooperated with Spoetnik and our opinions tend to differ very often.
Now unlike me, you have negative trust and a reference that shows evidence.

Thank you Fuserleer. Just because you did not join an obvious trolling attempt proves that you're different from the majority of here (a lot of people tend to do this). Well I'm sorry that the theft happened, you should take care of your funds this time. You're a man with money also :P.
I have not seen that explanation, but it doesn't matter I trust you.


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: Fuserleer on August 23, 2014, 01:02:34 AM
wow i'd be very very careful here. laudaM is a known darkcoin scammer and well known to be cooperator with Spoetnik on several hacks and cracks.
i wouldnt be surprised at all if shes in the bed with Spoetnik and pulled off this massive theft  and now mocking fuserleer.  this is brazen.  outright brazen.
~CfA~

LaudaM maybe a lot of things, but I must defend the guy as he's been around here much longer than many....and while we may not see eye to eye on many things, a scammer I don't believe he is.

In reply to the how I reimbursed so much, I've explained about me, myself and Irene in the past and been called a liar and mocked....but I'll say it again, I'm a man of much experience and many means, and the theft was simply a hit I could foot the bill for.
Known darkcoin scammer? Exactly where did I scam anyone please. If you're going to be pointing fingers at least provide evidence.
Also I have never cooperated with Spoetnik and our opinions tend to differ very often.
Now unlike me, you have negative trust and a reference that shows evidence.

Thank you Fuserleer. Just because you did not join an obvious trolling attempt proves that you're different from the majority of here (a lot of people tend to do this). Well I'm sorry that the theft happened, you should take care of your funds this time. You're a man with money also :P.
I have not seen that explanation, but it doesn't matter I trust you.

Heh well as you know, I'm well educated on anything trollish around here, and I simply have better things to do that take part in any slanging matches.

Indeed, but the thief was smart, I was cashing out a lot of my own BTC to the exchanges as the BTC price was tanking to about ~$450, so I wanted to catch it on the way back up...and decided to cash in a bit of the investor BTC too as a bit of a hedge.  The bastard get me right as I loaded up my cold wallets and was moving BTC around, I hadn't touched them wallets for months, so they were just waiting patiently! :@


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: Lauda on August 23, 2014, 01:09:25 AM
Heh well as you know, I'm well educated on anything trollish around here, and I simply have better things to do that take part in any slanging matches.

Indeed, but the thief was smart, I was cashing out a lot of my own BTC to the exchanges as the BTC price was tanking to about ~$450, so I wanted to catch it on the way back up...and decided to cash in a bit of the investor BTC too as a bit of a hedge.  The bastard get me right as I loaded up my cold wallets and was moving BTC around, I hadn't touched them wallets for months, so they were just waiting patiently! :@
So he sure was. That's unbelievable, he must have known and really been waiting for you.
It's surprising to see just how theft related to Bitcoins is evolving. Well you should have been careful as well as your name was known.
Maybe with some luck it will get found out one day.
The bounty is $25 000 after all right?


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: Fuserleer on August 23, 2014, 01:15:00 AM
Yeah its the same old same old.

I thought I was secure, and in any normal scenario I probably was, but there was almost $500k up for grabs, so the rules change.  Not getting into the details, but there were a few 3rd party holes too that helped the attacker, not much I can do about them.

Yeah its 50BTC atm, rises by 1 each week.   Probably never find the guy now, but maybe one day, the chump will decide to spend some of that cash and brag about where he got it to the wrong person.


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: Lauda on August 23, 2014, 01:26:26 AM
Yeah its the same old same old.

I thought I was secure, and in any normal scenario I probably was, but there was almost $500k up for grabs, so the rules change.  Not getting into the details, but there were a few 3rd party holes too that helped the attacker, not much I can do about them.

Yeah its 50BTC atm, rises by 1 each week.   Probably never find the guy now, but maybe one day, the chump will decide to spend some of that cash and brag about where he got it to the wrong person.
You should have at least kept them separated, but what's done is done.
Just make sure that 1000 weeks don't pass and the reward gets too big.  :P
I guess it's nice to see that eMunie survived and is still being worked on.


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: Fuserleer on August 23, 2014, 01:30:43 AM
Heh that lesson sure was learned, multiple wallets, multiple offline machines, etc etc

It's pretty crazy, of everything I have, the ONLY thing I worry about getting stolen is Bitcoin lol

Anyway, watch this space, plan to release some current info shortly on whats been happening and stuff.


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: digitalindustry on August 23, 2014, 01:36:42 AM
So moving forward...

When you complete testing what is the general plan ?

An IPO ?

Obviously people think what you guys have is important, there's only one other Crypto that's been trolled more than Emuni ha ha.

Personally I'm not sure its warrented (no offense) could we take from this that you were pretty careless with the held BTC?

In the meantime Crypto currency has had significant innovations.

As i stated previously i think your work would have been aptly rewarded had you conducted the whole process in the open with open development and open source.

But its been an interesting event from an analysis perspective.


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: Fuserleer on August 23, 2014, 01:42:26 AM
IPO is still on the cards if there is any demand for it, otherwise I'll fund the push out via alternative avenues, mainly my own funds and possibly VC's that are willing to pledge.  Depends all on where the balls lay on the table at the time.

Hmm...I wouldn't say careless, they were "protected" in exactly the same manner as my own that were stolen, I was just a big target I guess an worth the effort.

Yeah there has been innovation, but nothing IMO that comes close to what we have (of course I'm biased).  Whether others think the same remains to be seen in the coming months.

Lol yeah eMunie has been a troll fest that's for sure.

The whole open v's closed debate, tbh I'm happy with the choice I made to keep development closed.  Some stuff would of been easier open, other stuff would of been hindered, but I guess it comes down to am *I* happy with the way things have developed, especially with all the drama, and the answer is still yes.


Title: liar, clown, crypto-pedo luring kids into his van.. with bitcoin
Post by: Spoetnik on August 23, 2014, 01:43:20 AM
Trust me, you won't be finding out who the hacker is. No matter how large the bounty gets.  ;)
How in the name of everything that is crypto did you reimburse such a large sum?


wow i'd be very very careful here. laudaM is a known darkcoin scammer and well known to be cooperator with Spoetnik on several hacks and cracks.

i wouldnt be surprised at all if shes in the bed with Spoetnik and pulled off this massive theft  and now mocking fuserleer.  this is brazen.  outright brazen.

~CfA~

that is cute.. who are you spoon feeding these lies to ? you know older members will know me and Lauda have historically not gotten along at all LOL
it takes two seconds to go and see what i mean by a forum search..

i have nothing against the guy to be honest, it's just we have differing opinions on things i think sometimes.. and hey it happens.. no big whoop.

if your going to LIE about people ? your going to need to try a little harder because that was just pathetic  :D


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: digitalindustry on August 23, 2014, 03:02:06 AM
IPO is still on the cards if there is any demand for it, otherwise I'll fund the push out via alternative avenues, mainly my own funds and possibly VC's that are willing to pledge.  Depends all on where the balls lay on the table at the time.

Hmm...I wouldn't say careless, they were "protected" in exactly the same manner as my own that were stolen, I was just a big target I guess an worth the effort.

Yeah there has been innovation, but nothing IMO that comes close to what we have (of course I'm biased).  Whether others think the same remains to be seen in the coming months.

Lol yeah eMunie has been a troll fest that's for sure.

The whole open v's closed debate, tbh I'm happy with the choice I made to keep development closed.  Some stuff would of been easier open, other stuff would of been hindered, but I guess it comes down to am *I* happy with the way things have developed, especially with all the drama, and the answer is still yes.

a fair answer - i think its still interesting, but one person can never out innovate an open market, so you should align yourself with that analogy moving forward.

it could be a little bit like a musician writing a song, then coming back months later and saying  "what the fuck was i thinking"

the point is if you keep it open, the market can say "what the fuck are you thinking" as you go.

my point is in the end if the market values this entity it will only be based on the "equivalent force of information" perception.

and nothing else.


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: CoinHoarder on August 23, 2014, 03:24:07 AM
I'm glad to see eMunie is still a thing, I thought the project had died. I went over to your forums and it seemed pretty dead, and haven't seen you Fuserleer in months. I'm glad you are back though and interested to see what you've been developing behind closed doors. ;)


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: tadakaluri on August 23, 2014, 03:42:05 AM
Just like another dead coin :)


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: megashira1 on August 23, 2014, 03:55:04 AM
Heh that lesson sure was learned, multiple wallets, multiple offline machines, etc etc

It's pretty crazy, of everything I have, the ONLY thing I worry about getting stolen is Bitcoin lol

Anyway, watch this space, plan to release some current info shortly on whats been happening and stuff.

Why the need for multiple offline machines?


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: okiefromokc on August 23, 2014, 02:59:10 PM
Serious internet developers have their own private dev networks with multiple machines connected together to test the software applications on. In Fuserleer's case he most likely has a private network setup with only maybe a couple of machines accessing the actual external Internet WWW.


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: Alohaboy?! on August 23, 2014, 04:11:51 PM
glad to hear that eMunie is still on track!


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: percocet on August 23, 2014, 05:16:04 PM
glad to hear that eMunie is still on track!

Me too, I've been hearing a buzz about this one for ages now. If you research the features that emunie is going to have it becomes obvious that this thing is going to blow everything else out of the water!


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: Fuserleer on August 23, 2014, 05:54:12 PM
Serious internet developers have their own private dev networks with multiple machines connected together to test the software applications on. In Fuserleer's case he most likely has a private network setup with only maybe a couple of machines accessing the actual external Internet WWW.

heh, indeed I almost have my very own internet here at the office!

glad to hear that eMunie is still on track!

Me too, I've been hearing a buzz about this one for ages now. If you research the features that emunie is going to have it becomes obvious that this thing is going to blow everything else out of the water!

thanks for the kind words, revolutionary stuff (hopefully) takes a while, and it doesn't help that I'm a bit of a perfectionist :)

I'll be posting some actual real info later on today with some screen grabs of the latest and greatest, so you guys can all see whats going on.


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: CoinHoarder on August 23, 2014, 08:20:27 PM
I'll be posting some actual real info later on today with some screen grabs of the latest and greatest, so you guys can all see whats going on.

Awesome, I look forward to that. :)


Title: Re: Whatever Happened to eMunie?
Post by: Iffy on August 23, 2014, 11:44:39 PM
IPO is still on the cards if there is any demand for it, otherwise I'll fund the push out via alternative avenues, mainly my own funds and possibly VC's that are willing to pledge.  Depends all on where the balls lay on the table at the time.

Hmm...I wouldn't say careless, they were "protected" in exactly the same manner as my own that were stolen, I was just a big target I guess an worth the effort.

Yeah there has been innovation, but nothing IMO that comes close to what we have (of course I'm biased).  Whether others think the same remains to be seen in the coming months.

Lol yeah eMunie has been a troll fest that's for sure.

The whole open v's closed debate, tbh I'm happy with the choice I made to keep development closed.  Some stuff would of been easier open, other stuff would of been hindered, but I guess it comes down to am *I* happy with the way things have developed, especially with all the drama, and the answer is still yes.

a fair answer - i think its still interesting, but one person can never out innovate an open market, so you should align yourself with that analogy moving forward.

it could be a little bit like a musician writing a song, then coming back months later and saying  "what the fuck was i thinking"

the point is if you keep it open, the market can say "what the fuck are you thinking" as you go.

my point is in the end if the market values this entity it will only be based on the "equivalent force of information" perception.

and nothing else.

I have been a part of the beta and founder team for well over a year and to be perfectly honest all the new "innovative" stuff that has turned up in the past 12 months throughout the crypto world I first saw discussed and thrashed out on the Emunie shout box long before they turned up in the real world. The vast majority of those ideas and the way to implement them to my knowledge were actually originally brought up by Dan and thrashed out by the team. The man is a machine, put your jealousy away please it is disgusting.