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Title: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: cryptopaths on August 22, 2014, 09:19:05 PM
Bitcoin is an altcoin to Peercoin and Peercoin is an altcoin to Bitcoin.

Do all of you understand what "alt" means? It stands for alternate.

So when shown some new technology in crypto I get annoyed when people go, oh it's just another alternate.

Bitcoin is also an alternate to other technologies.  I hate how all of you are acting like the current bitcoin protocol is the end all be all project in the crypto scene. Satoshi brought true innovation and all of you are acting like there can't be any more for some reason.

So please next time something innovative is made don't just go, oh that's just another altcoin. Actually use your heads and look at the technology for what it's worth.

This idiotic thought process that some of you posses is exactly why a lot of you and a lot of people didn't get in early on Bitcoin. Because when faced with something new your underdeveloped/underpowered brains don't know how to process everything and you immediately call scam or fail on what you can't understand.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: bornil267645 on August 22, 2014, 09:23:17 PM
bitcoin was the first one, so everything else is altcoin. 8) 8)


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: Sampey on August 22, 2014, 09:24:13 PM
Bitcoin is the Cryptocurrency.
All the others are Alternative Cryptocurrency.  ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: SomethingElse on August 22, 2014, 09:28:05 PM
Bitcoin is an altcoin to Peercoin and Peercoin is an altcoin to Bitcoin.

Do all of you understand what "alt" means? It stands for alternate.

So when shown some new technology in crypto I get annoyed when people go, oh it's just another alternate.

Bitcoin is also an alternate to other technologies.  I hate how all of you are acting like the current bitcoin protocol is the end all be all project in the crypto scene. Satoshi brought true innovation and all of you are acting like there can't be any more for some reason.

So please next time something innovative is made don't just go, oh that's just another altcoin. Actually use your heads and look at the technology for what it's worth.

This idiotic thought process that some of you posses is exactly why a lot of you and a lot of people didn't get in early on Bitcoin. Because when faced with something new your underdeveloped/underpowered brains don't know how to process everything and you immediately call scam or fail on what you can't understand.


Uhm..... no.  Bitcoin is a cryptrocurrency and altcoins are cryptocurrency, but Bitcoin is not an altcoin.  The "alt" means "alternate to bitcoin".

Bitcoin is Bitcoin and all other coins are alts. 


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: franky1 on August 22, 2014, 09:28:16 PM
cryptopath the under 18yo kid that doesnt think before he posts, has yet again started another topic that has no purpose but to make him look worse then people already believe he is.

..  mods please lock these boring and pointless topics that make no sense and offer nothing insightful


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: cryptopaths on August 22, 2014, 09:46:53 PM
cryptopath the under 18yo kid that doesnt think before he posts, has yet again started another topic that has no purpose but to make him look worse then people already believe he is.

..  mods please lock these boring and pointless topics that make no sense and offer nothing insightful

Exactly what I expected once you have no way to argue with my irrefutable facts you try to change the subject with completely irrelevant information and then try to call in the mods to help you.

Use your head for once man, you might learn a thing or two.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: lambdaE on August 22, 2014, 09:50:14 PM
So please next time something innovative is made don't just go, oh that's just another altcoin. Actually use your heads and look at the technology for what it's worth.

I let the innovatives of altcoins test by others, and only if the altcoin take substantial Bitcoin market share Im gonna look more in detail for the altcoin. So far nothing interesting popped up, Bitcoin market share still way above 90%

I saved a lot of time (and Bitcoins :)) following this strategy  


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: farlack on August 22, 2014, 09:51:49 PM
Bitcoin isn't an alternative to Peercoin.. Peer coin is an alternative to Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: cryptopaths on August 22, 2014, 10:02:39 PM
Bitcoin isn't an alternative to Peercoin.. Peer coin is an alternative to Bitcoin.

Do you know what the word alternate means?


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: rhino34567 on August 22, 2014, 10:05:14 PM
I don't think so. Bitcoin is the main crypto and all others are alternatives to it. Why fight over it though?


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: AdamWhite on August 22, 2014, 10:13:09 PM
Uhhh... ok.

If you were here in the beginning you'll know the term alt came about once other coins started appearing (Ixcoin, I0coin etc etc)

Thing is, sure there is innovation in some of the new coins, but MOST of the time.. it is "just another alt shit clone"

Feel free to get off you pedestal anytime now.. not sure who your target audience is with this post.. believe it or not there are people here that are much smarter than you...



Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: frankh13 on August 22, 2014, 10:36:07 PM
Bitcoin is an altcoin to Peercoin and Peercoin is an altcoin to Bitcoin.

Do all of you understand what "alt" means? It stands for alternate.

So when shown some new technology in crypto I get annoyed when people go, oh it's just another alternate.

Bitcoin is also an alternate to other technologies.  I hate how all of you are acting like the current bitcoin protocol is the end all be all project in the crypto scene. Satoshi brought true innovation and all of you are acting like there can't be any more for some reason.

So please next time something innovative is made don't just go, oh that's just another altcoin. Actually use your heads and look at the technology for what it's worth.

This idiotic thought process that some of you posses is exactly why a lot of you and a lot of people didn't get in early on Bitcoin. Because when faced with something new your underdeveloped/underpowered brains don't know how to process everything and you immediately call scam or fail on what you can't understand.


But btc were 1st, that mean that alt, it's all currencyes after btc, and btc it's a core of crypto currency, much usefull for many people. Btc Community is bigger then any alt community. After that, we are using name alt. Don't hate it, if you don't understand that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: Sampey on August 22, 2014, 10:47:33 PM
And of course, ALT = Alternative and not Alternate

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/alternate-or-alternative

 ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: Kayex on August 22, 2014, 11:48:10 PM
Bit coin was the first cryptocurrency to be introduced.
Alt coin simply means it's an alternative cryptocurrency other than BTC.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: foggyb on August 22, 2014, 11:48:39 PM
This is the most pointless thread ever.

Cryptopaths is an expert troll.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: jonald_fyookball on August 22, 2014, 11:53:35 PM
bitcoin was the first one, so everything else is altcoin. 8) 8)

This. 

Thread won.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: Soros Shorts on August 23, 2014, 01:47:49 AM
Bitcoin is an altcoin to Peercoin and Peercoin is an altcoin to Bitcoin.
I agree with you.

Bitcoin is the desirable alternative coin to Peercoin, and Peercoin is the less desirable alternative coin to Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: seriouscoin on August 23, 2014, 02:26:01 AM
ppl still keep feeding this fcking troll?

can you all do the community a favor and ignore the troll so he stop making this kind of threads?

Its like talking to a barking dog, you're just wasting your time and encouraging the barking behavior.

And i'm extremely sorry to all the k9 outthere for comparing this troll to you guys.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: moriartybitcoin on August 23, 2014, 03:14:17 AM
there's no room in the cryptocurrency markets for coins other than Bitcoin ...

All the speculation/hype is fueled by speculation/hype.  Nobody is actually USING the altcoins, other than hoarding them in the hopes they go up. Hell, people are just barely using Bitcoin itself.



Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: drawingthesun on August 23, 2014, 03:19:05 AM
Bitcoin is the first true crypto currency and all the other projects inspired by it are alt coins.

Even Monero, which I support, is an alt coin, even though it is completely different from Bitcoin and shares no code at all.

Most alt coins are complete crap, however some alt coins are superior to Bitcoin in some ways, so don't take offense to these coins being called alt coins.

Being called an alt coin is not in any way derogatory.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on August 23, 2014, 03:29:50 AM
This is the most pointless thread ever.

Cryptopaths is an expert troll.

I don't know whether he is a troll. He is telling logically. We usually call other coins as ALTs but it can be used vice versa too though it isn't really possible. Both YES and NO for the statement is true in a different way of thinking. ::) :)

  ~~MZ~~


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: zerocool5878 on August 23, 2014, 03:44:53 AM
With this logic, fiat is an alt of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: jabo38 on August 23, 2014, 04:18:38 AM
OP has been corrected.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: valvalis on August 23, 2014, 04:32:54 AM
The OP doesn't understand with what he's talking about.
"Alt"coin means Alternate from bitcoin.
Why is the bitcoin doesn't called as Altcoin? Because Bitcoin is the first Cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: wordman267645 on August 23, 2014, 05:24:25 AM
I appreciate with you. Bitcoin is the first Cryptocurrency and all others are alternatives to it. It's simple.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: NavalStrike on August 23, 2014, 06:01:25 AM
Bitcoin is an altcoin to Peercoin and Peercoin is an altcoin to Bitcoin.

Do all of you understand what "alt" means? It stands for alternate.

So when shown some new technology in crypto I get annoyed when people go, oh it's just another alternate.

Bitcoin is also an alternate to other technologies.  I hate how all of you are acting like the current bitcoin protocol is the end all be all project in the crypto scene. Satoshi brought true innovation and all of you are acting like there can't be any more for some reason.

So please next time something innovative is made don't just go, oh that's just another altcoin. Actually use your heads and look at the technology for what it's worth.

This idiotic thought process that some of you posses is exactly why a lot of you and a lot of people didn't get in early on Bitcoin. Because when faced with something new your underdeveloped/underpowered brains don't know how to process everything and you immediately call scam or fail on what you can't understand.

The name of the topic made me sad. But i'm still waiting for an interesting discussion.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: Mightycoin on August 23, 2014, 07:40:03 AM
Bitcoin was first and most used, most valued coin. Its the boss, so other coins can be called alt coins :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on August 23, 2014, 10:20:15 PM
Bitcoin is the Cryptocurrency.
All the others are Alternative Cryptocurrency.  ;)

The one who created the original system is the original cryto as Sampey and others have said
The rest of them are alt-coins if they use the same types of codes to resolve the double spending problem.

That said what we can define is a non-btc Variant would not be an altcoin
Bitcoin based vairants are altcoins
http://mapofcoins.com/


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: Lauda on August 23, 2014, 10:27:09 PM
cryptopath the under 18yo kid that doesnt think before he posts, has yet again started another topic that has no purpose but to make him look worse then people already believe he is.

..  mods please lock these boring and pointless topics that make no sense and offer nothing insightful
Well, if you take a look at all the threads that he started, most are pretty nonsense.
Satoshi was murdered, evidence coming in?  ::)
The first statement doesn't make sense at all. Bitcoin was first, anything that comes after is an altcoin, end of story.
You can deny it as much as you'd like but it's hopeless.

Will Satoshi reappear to save Bitcoin?
Why does Bitcoin need saving?


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: itsAj on August 23, 2014, 10:34:13 PM
The OP doesn't understand with what he's talking about.
"Alt"coin means Alternate from bitcoin.
Why is the bitcoin doesn't called as Altcoin? Because Bitcoin is the first Cryptocurrency.
This is exactly right. The reason altcoins are called altcoins is because they are alternative coins to bitcoin. They are always inferior to bitcoin as their network security is much weaker (lower hashrate). To say that bitcoin is an altcoin is like saying that bitcoin is an alternative coin to itself.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: makngeerwork on August 23, 2014, 10:43:49 PM
cryptopath the under 18yo kid that doesnt think before he posts, has yet again started another topic that has no purpose but to make him look worse then people already believe he is.

..  mods please lock these boring and pointless topics that make no sense and offer nothing insightful


Thanks for the heads up franky,  another added to the ignore list. 
carry on


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: jackjack on August 23, 2014, 10:46:57 PM
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Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: R2D221 on August 23, 2014, 10:54:51 PM
Bitcoin is an alternative, but NOT to Peercoin. It's an alternative to fiat money. The word alternative means that it was thought as another solution to a current problem. When Bitcoin was created, Peercoin didn't even exist, so logically it can't be an alternative to that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: evanito on August 23, 2014, 11:36:40 PM
Altcoins are majorly used by people who are:
1) Fans of that coin
2) Daytraders
3) Bots
4) Holders/investors/"hopers"

Conclusion: bitcoin is master coin


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: hicaribou on August 23, 2014, 11:37:52 PM
I agree with you that Bitcoin is also an altcoin under the meaning of new technology in the cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: iluvpie60 on August 23, 2014, 11:48:57 PM
Bitcoin is an altcoin to Peercoin and Peercoin is an altcoin to Bitcoin.

Do all of you understand what "alt" means? It stands for alternate.

So when shown some new technology in crypto I get annoyed when people go, oh it's just another alternate.

Bitcoin is also an alternate to other technologies.  I hate how all of you are acting like the current bitcoin protocol is the end all be all project in the crypto scene. Satoshi brought true innovation and all of you are acting like there can't be any more for some reason.

So please next time something innovative is made don't just go, oh that's just another altcoin. Actually use your heads and look at the technology for what it's worth.

This idiotic thought process that some of you posses is exactly why a lot of you and a lot of people didn't get in early on Bitcoin. Because when faced with something new your underdeveloped/underpowered brains don't know how to process everything and you immediately call scam or fail on what you can't understand.


IT IS A NICE TRY...

but honestly when you come on here and have a rant about how bitcoin is an alt coin is not true. the alt part of it is talking about how other coins copy and paste their source code from bitcoin or take most of it or some of it and just tweak it. there is a reason bitcoin is at the top and all the others are at the bottom right now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: betterangels on August 24, 2014, 02:51:47 AM
Bitcoin is the mother of all Altcoins, dude.
 ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: wasserman99 on August 24, 2014, 05:32:07 AM
The OP doesn't understand with what he's talking about.
"Alt"coin means Alternate from bitcoin.
Why is the bitcoin doesn't called as Altcoin? Because Bitcoin is the first Cryptocurrency.
This is exactly right. The reason altcoins are called altcoins is because they are alternative coins to bitcoin. They are always inferior to bitcoin as their network security is much weaker (lower hashrate). To say that bitcoin is an altcoin is like saying that bitcoin is an alternative coin to itself.
I really don't understand the logic behind the OP either. Bitcoin will always be superior to other altcoins because of the strength of it's network.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: Hasher99 on August 24, 2014, 05:39:04 AM
Bitcoin was the first coin, bitcoin is the king. So all reference will be made with BTC. Its not an actual alternative, but relative.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: Spoetnik on August 24, 2014, 04:30:47 PM
cryptopath the under 18yo kid that doesnt think before he posts, has yet again started another topic that has no purpose but to make him look worse then people already believe he is.

..  mods please lock these boring and pointless topics that make no sense and offer nothing insightful

he's hiding out again from the Altcoin section LOL


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: CozyLife on August 24, 2014, 04:42:13 PM
An altcoin is a coin that's an alternative to Bitcoin.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Altcoin

Therefore, Bitcoin cannot possibly be an altcoin as nothing can be an alternate to itself.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: betterangels on August 25, 2014, 12:18:32 AM
Bitcoin was the first coin, bitcoin is the king. So all reference will be made with BTC. Its not an actual alternative, but relative.


Bitcoin is the queen in the network.... long live to the queen!!!.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: slaveforanunnak1 on August 25, 2014, 02:43:01 AM
Bitcoin is an altcoin to Peercoin and Peercoin is an altcoin to Bitcoin.

Do all of you understand what "alt" means? It stands for alternate.

So when shown some new technology in crypto I get annoyed when people go, oh it's just another alternate.

Bitcoin is also an alternate to other technologies.  I hate how all of you are acting like the current bitcoin protocol is the end all be all project in the crypto scene. Satoshi brought true innovation and all of you are acting like there can't be any more for some reason.

So please next time something innovative is made don't just go, oh that's just another altcoin. Actually use your heads and look at the technology for what it's worth.

This idiotic thought process that some of you posses is exactly why a lot of you and a lot of people didn't get in early on Bitcoin. Because when faced with something new your underdeveloped/underpowered brains don't know how to process everything and you immediately call scam or fail on what you can't understand.


HAHAHAH THANK YOU!! +1000
Thats how I feel every time someone calls Ethereum "SCAM COIN!!"



Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: R2D221 on August 25, 2014, 03:26:49 AM
Bitcoin is an altcoin to Peercoin and Peercoin is an altcoin to Bitcoin.

Do all of you understand what "alt" means? It stands for alternate.

So when shown some new technology in crypto I get annoyed when people go, oh it's just another alternate.

Bitcoin is also an alternate to other technologies.  I hate how all of you are acting like the current bitcoin protocol is the end all be all project in the crypto scene. Satoshi brought true innovation and all of you are acting like there can't be any more for some reason.

So please next time something innovative is made don't just go, oh that's just another altcoin. Actually use your heads and look at the technology for what it's worth.

This idiotic thought process that some of you posses is exactly why a lot of you and a lot of people didn't get in early on Bitcoin. Because when faced with something new your underdeveloped/underpowered brains don't know how to process everything and you immediately call scam or fail on what you can't understand.


HAHAHAH THANK YOU!! +1000
Thats how I feel every time someone calls Ethereum "SCAM COIN!!"

I don't understand how one thing is related to the other. Besides, we have already stated that the meaning OP is giving to “alternate” is not the real one (or the one everyone else agrees with).


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: slaveforanunnak1 on August 25, 2014, 04:08:13 AM
Bitcoin is an altcoin to Peercoin and Peercoin is an altcoin to Bitcoin.

Do all of you understand what "alt" means? It stands for alternate.

So when shown some new technology in crypto I get annoyed when people go, oh it's just another alternate.

Bitcoin is also an alternate to other technologies.  I hate how all of you are acting like the current bitcoin protocol is the end all be all project in the crypto scene. Satoshi brought true innovation and all of you are acting like there can't be any more for some reason.

So please next time something innovative is made don't just go, oh that's just another altcoin. Actually use your heads and look at the technology for what it's worth.

This idiotic thought process that some of you posses is exactly why a lot of you and a lot of people didn't get in early on Bitcoin. Because when faced with something new your underdeveloped/underpowered brains don't know how to process everything and you immediately call scam or fail on what you can't understand.


HAHAHAH THANK YOU!! +1000
Thats how I feel every time someone calls Ethereum "SCAM COIN!!"

I don't understand how one thing is related to the other. Besides, we have already stated that the meaning OP is giving to “alternate” is not the real one (or the one everyone else agrees with).

is that right?


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: cbeast on August 25, 2014, 04:54:15 AM
I thought I was in the Bitcoin forum. My mistake.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: Plank on August 25, 2014, 10:11:38 AM
Its an altcoin with respect to other coins but frankly speaking, it has become a trend, thats what you are talking about.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: dKingston on August 25, 2014, 10:22:22 AM
Funny thinking :) Bitcoin is the first crypto is the crypto! Anything else is secondary and not considerable as BTC


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: Lauda on August 25, 2014, 10:49:14 AM
Everything with a beginning has an end, so the supremacy of Bitcoin will not last forever. That's reality. Hope for you it is distant in the future.
It's going to be in the very distant future if 'stupid' coins are being released like the ones that we had/have so far.
It's obvious that nothing will last forever, but it depends on how long it will last. Look at banks, Microsoft OS dominance?
Also it seems like people don't get this forum/it's name at all.
It's called BITCOINtalk for a reason.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: HELP.org on August 25, 2014, 11:20:27 AM
I think the term is based on the software development.  The code is being developed under Bitcoin and the "altcoins" take that code and make some changes to provide an alternative but they depend on the development of the Bitcoin project for updates.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin
Post by: giveBTCpls on August 26, 2014, 04:58:12 PM
bitcoin was the first one, so everything else is altcoin. 8) 8)

It was not actually the first one, I remember there were other people trying to come up with a similar thing.
Bitcoin was the first one to do it right tho, and get the bigger adoption. SO yeah, I could understand people that say its the first one.