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Bitcoin => Hardware => Topic started by: Segree-bitwinkor on August 23, 2014, 02:54:54 AM



Title: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: Segree-bitwinkor on August 23, 2014, 02:54:54 AM
Segree Digital miner manufacturer glad to inform news here.
We have developed begin mass production for New desgin A1 Lowest power comsuption btc miner.
New design 1.4th/S bitcoin miner , delivery time 30th August.

full 1.4TH/S with 1050watt power comsuption

Specification:
power comsuption: 1050Watt
Speed: 1420GH/S
Size: 36*17.5*46cm
Gross weight: 15.5KG
Fan: 12cm size*3pcs
Temperature: 35 degree
Ic temperture: Less than 60 degree

Price 1250USD/PC. delivery time 6 days. shipping begin from 30th Aug.
Mass order pls contact : info@winkor.com for discuss price.
skype: amanda2007520
payment: by bitcoin or banktransfer

http://a1.qpic.cn/psb?/V13D8H6E3zxNFP/wDd.Z0ihuCEbpw6vt9*0g8GYICh18BamY.UTqqVSveQ!/b/dBVitU6BDwAA&bo=mAGaAgAAAAAFACI!&rf=viewer_4

http://a1.qpic.cn/psb?/V13D8H6E3zxNFP/kXObAG9Rn*7SygKhG1UHaoIZXJX.aepSbgP7XiJRvNI!/b/dLHKtk6CDwAA&bo=EwKNAgAAAAAFAL0!&rf=viewer_4


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: dogie on August 23, 2014, 03:30:07 AM
So did you actually design this or are you just another reseller, like the email I got about this exact product from another reseller, 3 days ago, at a different price.


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: Segree-bitwinkor on August 23, 2014, 03:41:36 AM
So did you actually design this or are you just another reseller, like the email I got about this exact product from another reseller, 3 days ago, at a different price.

hi, we are making and design ourselves. welcome to visiting and testing in our factory.
We have making sample befoer. but didn't timely announement here


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: dan99 on August 23, 2014, 03:43:40 AM
yes, where is your factory interested to get a sample set to do a reviews for you.


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: Segree-bitwinkor on August 23, 2014, 07:33:38 AM
yes, where is your factory interested to get a sample set to do a reviews for you.

in shenzhen city , China
Our www.bit-winkor.com have address.


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: Rabinovitch on August 23, 2014, 08:16:58 AM
Can you sell it without PSU? It could be really great for most of us I suppose.


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: bit_wizard on August 23, 2014, 06:48:51 PM
Does the price include shipping?


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: opieum2 on August 23, 2014, 06:59:05 PM
These are IDENTICAL to the AMT miners. Likely a reseller.

See the review

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=752116.0

They are undercutting AMT by 100 bucks is all. So I imagine results will be the same. Still working on hashing results but other people are posting up in the AMT official threads.



Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: Segree-bitwinkor on August 24, 2014, 03:17:08 AM
These are IDENTICAL to the AMT miners. Likely a reseller.

See the review

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=752116.0

They are undercutting AMT by 100 bucks is all. So I imagine results will be the same. Still working on hashing results but other people are posting up in the AMT official threads.



We don't know AMT. And don't think china have miner factory called AMT.
And who said there only can have one factory making A1 miner


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: Segree-bitwinkor on August 24, 2014, 03:17:40 AM
Can you sell it without PSU? It could be really great for most of us I suppose.

If quantity is more. We can offer without PSU


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: -ck on August 24, 2014, 11:39:48 AM
What software are you using?


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: AMT_miners on August 24, 2014, 01:16:20 PM
These are IDENTICAL to the AMT miners. Likely a reseller.

See the review

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=752116.0

They are undercutting AMT by 100 bucks is all. So I imagine results will be the same. Still working on hashing results but other people are posting up in the AMT official threads.



Actually that could be  a different miner. Inno recently developed a 10-12 chip board, and 16 chip board as well, these are the modules in the massive 2TH's miners that we've seen floating around. The cost of the components are more expensive and they haven't been selling well because the board (with 12 chips) is not that stable. With 10 chips that board works fine or the 16 chip board is ok, but it doesn't decrease the power consumption as they are suggesting. If you look at the 2TH miner, you'll see they are using two 1000W psu's each barely powering 4  x 16 chip modules.
 
The screw placements make us think they are using the 12 (populated with 10) chip board. Or the 8 chip module we use. If 12 populated with 10, that would be 50 chips, at 28ghs (nominal speed .09 w/gh) chips making 1,400ghs. The problem here is unless they are under clocking (20-23GHS at .07 with hardware errors) they still wont be able to run it with a 1100watt psu, like most do for 4 module miners (1Th). 5 Modules of 8 chips nominal requires 1200W at a minimum.

So either its a miner similar to ours and its 1,250GHS with a 1100 PSU (not being able to power the 5th module) or its the concept above with a stronger psu lying about the exact consumption. But either way something doesn't add up.

Anyway, if you guys want this miner, we can have it shipped out to you in 2 days. Accept it would either our be our 1,250ghs or a 1,400 ghs both with either a 1200-1300w PSU consuming .02 watts per ghs/more than they have suggested.  .09 w per ghs.

And we'll sell it for $50 less. It doesn't leave much of a margin at all, but we're more interested rep rather than reward at this point.

$1200 for our 1,250ghs miner which is being review in the next thread.




Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: Segree-bitwinkor on August 25, 2014, 08:39:54 AM
These are IDENTICAL to the AMT miners. Likely a reseller.

See the review

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=752116.0

They are undercutting AMT by 100 bucks is all. So I imagine results will be the same. Still working on hashing results but other people are posting up in the AMT official threads.



Actually that could be  a different miner. Inno recently developed a 10-12 chip board, and 16 chip board as well, these are the modules in the massive 2TH's miners that we've seen floating around. The cost of the components are more expensive and they haven't been selling well because the board (with 12 chips) is not that stable. With 10 chips that board works fine or the 16 chip board is ok, but it doesn't decrease the power consumption as they are suggesting. If you look at the 2TH miner, you'll see they are using two 1000W psu's each barely powering 4  x 16 chip modules.
 
The screw placements make us think they are using the 12 (populated with 10) chip board. Or the 8 chip module we use. If 12 populated with 10, that would be 50 chips, at 28ghs (nominal speed .09 w/gh) chips making 1,400ghs. The problem here is unless they are under clocking (20-23GHS at .07 with hardware errors) they still wont be able to run it with a 1100watt psu, like most do for 4 module miners (1Th). 5 Modules of 8 chips nominal requires 1200W at a minimum.

So either its a miner similar to ours and its 1,250GHS with a 1100 PSU (not being able to power the 5th module) or its the concept above with a stronger psu lying about the exact consumption. But either way something doesn't add up.

Anyway, if you guys want this miner, we can have it shipped out to you in 2 days. Accept it would either our be our 1,250ghs or a 1,400 ghs both with either a 1200-1300w PSU consuming .02 watts per ghs/more than they have suggested.  .09 w per ghs.

And we'll sell it for $50 less. It doesn't leave much of a margin at all, but we're more interested rep rather than reward at this point.

$1200 for our 1,250ghs miner which is being review in the next thread.




Our 1420gh/s is 1050w psu.


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: IYFTech on August 25, 2014, 12:02:59 PM
What software are you using?

I'll give you one guess....... ;)


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: Tigggger on August 25, 2014, 12:49:03 PM
Does the price include shipping?

This rather important question still needs answering !!!

I'd be tempted to buy a few, but as you are new and the only feedback you have in your trust profile isn't good, would you be willing to accept escrow, building up some sales with escrow from established members can only improve future sales.


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: bit_wizard on August 25, 2014, 07:57:07 PM
Hijacked ... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=755719.0


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: Segree-bitwinkor on August 26, 2014, 01:58:11 AM
Does the price include shipping?

This rather important question still needs answering !!!

I'd be tempted to buy a few, but as you are new and the only feedback you have in your trust profile isn't good, would you be willing to accept escrow, building up some sales with escrow from established members can only improve future sales.

No escrow. before we accept paypal. now only bitcoin and bank transfer
Because WE have one buyer buy 2 miner from us by paypal 3 month ago. and now they use the excuse quality no match to return all the cost.  because they use credit card. bank can directly refund them.
So never third party payment any more!




Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: Tigggger on August 26, 2014, 08:49:13 AM
Does the price include shipping?

This rather important question still needs answering !!!

I'd be tempted to buy a few, but as you are new and the only feedback you have in your trust profile isn't good, would you be willing to accept escrow, building up some sales with escrow from established members can only improve future sales.

No escrow. before we accept paypal. now only bitcoin and bank transfer
Because WE have one buyer buy 2 miner from us by paypal 3 month ago. and now they use the excuse quality no match to return all the cost.  because they use credit card. bank can directly refund them.
So never third party payment any more!




The point of escrow is to protect both parties so I can't do what is described above and ensure you send what I pay for, but it's your choice will buy from pcfli instead.


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: urbanBTC on August 26, 2014, 11:03:42 AM
Does the price include shipping?

This rather important question still needs answering !!!

I'd be tempted to buy a few, but as you are new and the only feedback you have in your trust profile isn't good, would you be willing to accept escrow, building up some sales with escrow from established members can only improve future sales.

No escrow. before we accept paypal. now only bitcoin and bank transfer
Because WE have one buyer buy 2 miner from us by paypal 3 month ago. and now they use the excuse quality no match to return all the cost.  because they use credit card. bank can directly refund them.
So never third party payment any more!


Avoids this!! NO ESCROW and sellers admit they had quality problem in past!

No escrows or paypals = avoid!  I even agrees with Dogie for once!  Sellsman stars off like he design it, he is a seller! And nots a good one!


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: opieum2 on August 26, 2014, 12:51:43 PM
So far all the people selling these types of miners are of a shady variety. Notice AMT being one, these guys and the other guys are the same exact miners. Probably same factory selling through a variety of front companies. Just looking at the specs based on the A1 boards the PSUs on these will burn out within a month or sooner hence their inability to provide any guarantee on quality. Stick with companies willing to stand by their product. Bitmain and spondoolies have shown at least that much commitment to their products. Quick to respond and replace any issues OR compensate if its warranted. These guys cannot and seem to have no interest in that. You have been warned.

1080 consumption on an 1100 watt power supply is not good. There is no overhead or very little if ANY overvoltage protection. Which means these PSUs could go within a week to a month. Which will be more expense for the customer to replace as they likely will not.


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: loshia on August 26, 2014, 05:16:54 PM
What software are you using?
No open source software no customers!
Avoid this folks
Besides remove 40% from hash rate and add 20% to power usage
1.4T from five modules if the pic is real at all is just a dirty lie
Hey china boys are my estimations correct ;D
Do not buy this stuff just because they do not play fair not because miner origin is from china


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: opieum2 on August 26, 2014, 05:44:51 PM
What software are you using?
No open source software no customers!
Avoid this folks
Besides remove 40% from hash rate and add 20% to power usage
1.4T from five modules if the pic is real at all is just a dirty lie
Hey china boys are my estimations correct ;D
Do not buy this stuff just because they do not play fair not because miner origin is from china

I mostly agree with loshia on this. The china thing I don't totally agree with but do to some extent. Bitmain operates out of Hong Kong (technically China), I think some good stuff can come out of China....BUT yea avoid this at all costs.

These are the same machines AMT is hawking around and you only need to read the first few and last pages of any of the threads to know whats going on. If the build quality is the same (as they have yet to show proof) they likely will come to you missing power supplies and already having been used for mining and rusty metal in the packaging and who knows what else. Since AMT is done for this could be them under an alias account trying to sell this hardware. They did say they would do exactly this.


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: loshia on August 26, 2014, 09:17:50 PM
What software are you using?
No open source software no customers!
Avoid this folks
Besides remove 40% from hash rate and add 20% to power usage
1.4T from five modules if the pic is real at all is just a dirty lie
Hey china boys are my estimations correct ;D
Do not buy this stuff just because they do not play fair not because miner origin is from china

I mostly agree with loshia on this. The china thing I don't totally agree with but do to some extent. Bitmain operates out of Hong Kong (technically China), I think some good stuff can come out of China....BUT yea avoid this at all costs.

These are the same machines AMT is hawking around and you only need to read the first few and last pages of any of the threads to know whats going on. If the build quality is the same (as they have yet to show proof) they likely will come to you missing power supplies and already having been used for mining and rusty metal in the packaging and who knows what else. Since AMT is done for this could be them under an alias account trying to sell this hardware. They did say they would do exactly this.
As I said I am not against china  a I am against lairs
1.4t with that amount of chips and power dirty lie that's all over spec ...
For me 5 modules will ever be 1t or 1.1t maxxxxx


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: PatMan on August 26, 2014, 09:27:24 PM
Hong Kong (technically China).....

Ouch! I wouldn't say that to a native of Hong Kong...... ;)


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: opieum2 on August 26, 2014, 09:44:14 PM
Hong Kong (technically China).....

Ouch! I wouldn't say that to a native of Hong Kong...... ;)

I meant no offense to any HKers lol.


Title: Re: Announcement: full set 1.4TH/S miner 1050W A1 28nm miner 0.74watt/GH/S/0.87$
Post by: opieum2 on August 26, 2014, 09:46:34 PM
What software are you using?
No open source software no customers!
Avoid this folks
Besides remove 40% from hash rate and add 20% to power usage
1.4T from five modules if the pic is real at all is just a dirty lie
Hey china boys are my estimations correct ;D
Do not buy this stuff just because they do not play fair not because miner origin is from china

I mostly agree with loshia on this. The china thing I don't totally agree with but do to some extent. Bitmain operates out of Hong Kong (technically China), I think some good stuff can come out of China....BUT yea avoid this at all costs.

These are the same machines AMT is hawking around and you only need to read the first few and last pages of any of the threads to know whats going on. If the build quality is the same (as they have yet to show proof) they likely will come to you missing power supplies and already having been used for mining and rusty metal in the packaging and who knows what else. Since AMT is done for this could be them under an alias account trying to sell this hardware. They did say they would do exactly this.
As I said I am not against china  a I am against lairs
1.4t with that amount of chips and power dirty lie that's all over spec ...
For me 5 modules will ever be 1t or 1.1t maxxxxx

Actually the units I have actually do run at 1.2Ths. The problem is the PSU. I don't expect the PSU to last too long. So they did manage to pull it off performancewise. I am still trying to get a SUSTAINED performance metric which is what really matters to get an average which likley will be lower due to discards and HW errors so maybe even close to the numbers you are stating. But to start with the miners I have do perform at their rated speed. I just don't expect the PSUs to hold up as they are dangerously close to the max which is not the continuous load those PSUs would support.