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Title: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: bradleyb5155 on August 23, 2014, 10:33:53 PM
Which has the better future and why?


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: testz on August 23, 2014, 10:50:17 PM
Which has the better future and why?

Heavy question, try to build your personal opinion.
Probably you already familiar with NXT, all about BitSharesX you can read here: http://wiki.bitshares.org
At https://bitsharestalk.org you can read tons of interesting discussions and info.


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: Indemnified on August 23, 2014, 11:11:16 PM
In 1976, which had a better future - Microsoft or Apple?


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: testz on August 23, 2014, 11:15:50 PM
In 1976, which had a better future - Microsoft or Apple?

Exactly  :)
IMHO: Nxt it's "Microsoft", BitShares it's "Apple" - doing same, but in different way.


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: TaunSew on August 23, 2014, 11:33:22 PM
bitassets won't come out until Monday last I heard and NXT is already planning their own equivalent / counter.  NXT as far as I care has a more extensive ecosystem and more developers.

The difference I think is BitsharesX is extremely popular in China (99% comes from Chinese exchanges and 80% is Yuan-BTSx) while NXT is more international.   BTSx almost doesn't register on the internet compare to its' activity in China.


I think NXT is more secure and stable than BitsharesX.  

BitsharesX lives and dies at the hands of the Chinese private funds.  Do you really want to invest huge amounts into BitsharesX this very minute if some guy in China can type a few numbers on a keyboard and send the capitalization down to $5 million?    ???  That's like being a Bitcoin bagholder who bought at $1200 - a lot of them were bullish until the dump from China.

Heck it would be a disaster if the Chinese Government reacted and bans BitSharesX - *poof* that's 99% of BitsharesX activity gone overnight.


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: tokeweed on August 24, 2014, 12:11:22 AM
bitassets won't come out until Monday last I heard and NXT is already planning their own equivalent / counter.  NXT as far as I care has a more extensive ecosystem and more developers.

The difference I think is BitsharesX is extremely popular in China (99% comes from Chinese exchanges and 80% is Yuan-BTSx) while NXT is more international.   BTSx almost doesn't register on the internet compare to its' activity in China.


I think NXT is more secure and stable than BitsharesX.  

BitsharesX lives and dies at the hands of the Chinese private funds.  Do you really want to invest huge amounts into BitsharesX this very minute if some guy in China can type a few numbers on a keyboard and send the capitalization down to $5 million?    ???  That's like being a Bitcoin bagholder who bought at $1200 - a lot of them were bullish until the dump from China.

Heck it would be a disaster if the Chinese Government reacted and bans BitSharesX - *poof* that's 99% of BitsharesX activity gone overnight.

i like your thought process.  and that could indeed be it.  but keep in mind, it's still a buyer's market.  you think chinese private funds would settle for a little profit by dumping now?  it only has begun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__VQX2Xn7tI


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: Nxtblg on August 24, 2014, 02:06:31 AM
In 1976, which had a better future - Microsoft or Apple?

Exactly  :)
IMHO: Nxt it's "Microsoft", BitShares it's "Apple" - doing same, but in different way.

Myself, I would have compared NEM to Apple. NEM already has an established techie fanboi culture, which is to its credit.


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: TaunSew on August 24, 2014, 02:26:20 AM
biTshares is more like Soviet Nintendo.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendy_%28console%29

They tell you it's the most revolutionary thing comrade but bitassets doesn't come out until monday and they're invading every crypto forum on the internet to encourage others to get into what is otherwise a 99% Chinese fund pump.  Aurora 2.0?


BitsharesX is like a Chinese Doge 2.0.  BTSx introduces a lot of Chinese to the concept of second generation coins but as soon as their feet get wet, they'll learn about NXT and realize there are better more innovative coins.


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: Indemnified on August 24, 2014, 02:30:16 AM
biTshares is more like Soviet Nintendo.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendy_%28console%29

They tell you it's the most revolutionary thing comrade but bitassets doesn't come out until monday and they're invading every crypto forum on the internet to encourage others to get into what is otherwise a 99% Chinese fund pump.  Aurora 2.0?


BitsharesX seems to be a bubble as it is a Doge 2.0.  BTSx introduces a lot of Chinese to the concept of second generation coins but as soon as they "break the ground" they will be moving on to real innovators like NXT.


The head dev of NXT posts at Bitsharestalk,org:

"Hi, guys. I have come here to state that a lot of nxters don't support the point of view of those who posted that nonsense about great satan. I hope u will forgive them, they became upset when saw that Bitshares' market capitalization had jumped above Nxt's one."

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=7351.30


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: TaunSew on August 24, 2014, 02:33:48 AM
biTshares is more like Soviet Nintendo.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendy_%28console%29

They tell you it's the most revolutionary thing comrade but bitassets doesn't come out until monday and they're invading every crypto forum on the internet to encourage others to get into what is otherwise a 99% Chinese fund pump.  Aurora 2.0?


BitsharesX seems to be a bubble as it is a Doge 2.0.  BTSx introduces a lot of Chinese to the concept of second generation coins but as soon as they "break the ground" they will be moving on to real innovators like NXT.


The head dev of NXT posts at Bitsharestalk,org:

"Hi, guys. I have come here to state that a lot of nxters don't support the point of view of those who posted that nonsense about great satan. I hope u will forgive them, they became upset when saw that Bitshares' market capitalization had jumped above Nxt's one."

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=7351.30

He was referring mainly to the "Great Satan".   The "Great Satan" is a very irrational approach, by playing a religion card, to try to discredit something and only made NXTers look like wacks.

Developers of coins are supposed to be non-confrontational and diplomatic but the NXT forum is otherwise full of ongoing threads about Bitshares.



Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: CoinHoarder on August 24, 2014, 02:40:28 AM
Sorry TaunSew, but this has to be said.

It is not only the "great satan" thread that makes Nxt supporters look like "wacks", you are doing a good job of that yourself with your anti-bitshares posts. This is a good example:

biTshares is more like Soviet Nintendo.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendy_%28console%29

They tell you it's the most revolutionary thing comrade but bitassets doesn't come out until monday and they're invading every crypto forum on the internet to encourage others to get into what is otherwise a 99% Chinese fund pump.  Aurora 2.0?


BitsharesX is like a Chinese Doge 2.0.  BTSx introduces a lot of Chinese to the concept of second generation coins but as soon as their feet get wet, they'll learn about NXT and realize there are better more innovative coins.

Anyways... carry on, as it is clear your are hear to spread FUD to prop up your Nxt investment. It is obvious that you are not here to be rational and have civil & honest discussions. ;)


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: TaunSew on August 24, 2014, 02:44:23 AM
Sorry TaunSew, but this has to be said.

It is not only the "great satan" thread that makes Nxt supporters look like "wacks", you are doing a good job of that yourself with your anti-bitshares posts. This is a good example:

biTshares is more like Soviet Nintendo. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendy_%28console%29

They tell you it's the most revolutionary thing comrade but bitassets doesn't come out until monday and they're invading every crypto forum on the internet to encourage others to get into what is otherwise a 99% Chinese fund pump.  Aurora 2.0?


BitsharesX is like a Chinese Doge 2.0.  BTSx introduces a lot of Chinese to the concept of second generation coins but as soon as their feet get wet, they'll learn about NXT and realize there are better more innovative coins.

Anyways... carry on, as it is clear your are hear to spread FUD to prop up your Nxt investment, and not here to be rational and have civil and honest discussions. ;)

BitsharesX right now is just a pump and dump until the technology is unlocked on Monday.  Then we have to wait 1-2 months for NXT to implement their own collateral and pegging and see if NXT or BTSx asset exchange has more volume.

I theorize BTSx asset exchange wouldn't get much attention (no more than NXT's) as the typical person going into cryptos just wants coins, they don't want complicated things like assets, short and long, derivatives, et al.




Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: CoinHoarder on August 24, 2014, 02:47:07 AM
BitsharesX right now is just a pump and dump until the technology is unlocked on Monday.  Then we have to wait 1-2 months for NXT to implement their own collateral and pegging and see if NXT or BTSx asset exchange has more volume.

I theorize BTSx asset exchange wouldn't get much attention (no more than NXT's) as the typical person going into cryptos just wants coins, they don't want complicated things like assets, short and long, derivatives, et al.

The way ChuckOne explained Nxt's collateral system to me, it sounded clearly inferior to bitassets.


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: zsp on September 02, 2014, 12:25:43 PM
What is the origin of BitshareX, is it Chinese?


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: zsp on September 02, 2014, 12:37:58 PM
OK, sorry for the silly question about the origin, I can see the team at http://bitshares.org/community/team/. 


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: DarkhorseofNxt on September 02, 2014, 12:52:31 PM
Answer to your question

http://www.nxttechnologytree.com/


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: sidhujag on December 11, 2014, 07:40:58 AM
BitsharesX right now is just a pump and dump until the technology is unlocked on Monday.  Then we have to wait 1-2 months for NXT to implement their own collateral and pegging and see if NXT or BTSx asset exchange has more volume.

I theorize BTSx asset exchange wouldn't get much attention (no more than NXT's) as the typical person going into cryptos just wants coins, they don't want complicated things like assets, short and long, derivatives, et al.

The way ChuckOne explained Nxt's collateral system to me, it sounded clearly inferior to bitassets.
+5


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: monsterer on December 11, 2014, 09:50:15 AM
IMO NXT is aimed more at the cyptocurrency community, with the new Monetary System designed to allow altcoins to be built on top of NXT quite easily.

Bitshares is aimed more at the world outside of the crypto community with support for the digital dollar and other pegged currencies.


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: focus-coin on December 12, 2014, 03:04:02 AM
BitsharesX is next BitBay ;D


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: jabo38 on December 12, 2014, 04:14:18 AM
BitsharesX is next BitBay ;D

I didn't follow Bitbay.  Is that a good or bad thing?


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: Hollowman338 on December 12, 2014, 04:19:34 AM
BitsharesX is next BitBay ;D

I didn't follow Bitbay.  Is that a good or bad thing?

Seeing as how all of the topics regarding bitbay here on BCT are going down in flames as well as the trading price on bittrex/BTER, I'd say it isn't a good comparison.


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: sidhujag on December 12, 2014, 07:28:19 AM
BitsharesX is next BitBay ;D
Its bitshares.

Bitbay is junk bond while bts is tbond


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: focus-coin on December 12, 2014, 08:41:13 AM
BitsharesX is next BitBay ;D

I didn't follow Bitbay.  Is that a good or bad thing?
Very good thing


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: Brangdon on December 12, 2014, 10:13:26 AM
IMO NXT is aimed more at the cyptocurrency community, with the new Monetary System designed to allow altcoins to be built on top of NXT quite easily.

Bitshares is aimed more at the world outside of the crypto community with support for the digital dollar and other pegged currencies.
Nxt wants to be all things for all people. It has a lot of features aimed at business, including a free marketplace and an asset exchange. Those things have been live for months and there are businesses using them. The Monetary System isn't live yet. It too is partially aimed at businesses. You can use it for crowd-sourcing capital and for gift-token type things.

Bitshares looks like smoke and mirrors to me, but the part that seems most interesting is its willingness to engage with regulators. I think eventually 2.0 crypto-currencies will need provision to conform to money laundering laws, eg with assets that can only be bought by accounts with a certified real-world identity.


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: Damelon on December 12, 2014, 12:00:06 PM
IMO NXT is aimed more at the cyptocurrency community, with the new Monetary System designed to allow altcoins to be built on top of NXT quite easily.

Bitshares is aimed more at the world outside of the crypto community with support for the digital dollar and other pegged currencies.

Why make this distinction at all? It's not really a valid one.
If the crypto community has any future, it will be by merging into commerce anyway, so this point is rather moot in the long term. :)

Also, the MS is nót aimed at creating alt-coins at all. It's aimed at creating tokens that have many other uses beyond being "coins", just as the Asset Exchange is not aimed at creating "shares", but rather at creating easily trading tokens of another kind.

Don't mistake the label for the substance.


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: monsterer on December 12, 2014, 01:24:20 PM
Why make this distinction at all? It's not really a valid one.
If the crypto community has any future, it will be by merging into commerce anyway, so this point is rather moot in the long term. :)

This is the feeling I get after hanging around in both communities and witnessing the various developmental and community attitudes.

Sure the NXT MS has many more features than just that, in the same way that bitshares has many more features than just bitUSD.


Title: Re: NXT vs BitsharesX
Post by: focus-coin on December 12, 2014, 04:47:11 PM
BitsharesX is next BitBay ;D

I didn't follow Bitbay.  Is that a good or bad thing?

Seeing as how all of the topics regarding bitbay here on BCT are going down in flames as well as the trading price on bittrex/BTER, I'd say it isn't a good comparison.
Then I think BitshareX is next cent, they all only can bloom in Bter