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Title: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: manman523 on April 05, 2012, 10:33:35 PM
Hey guys, im just wondering whats my best way to buy bitcoins with paypal. Do I have to convert paypal to another currency or what ?


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: casascius on April 05, 2012, 10:38:00 PM
Find someone willing to sell them to you for PayPal.  (that's the hard part)


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: bitcoinsarefun on April 05, 2012, 10:38:43 PM
Hey guys, im just wondering whats my best way to buy bitcoins with paypal. Do I have to convert paypal to another currency or what ?

You would have to send whatever currency the seller wanted... As an fyi, not too many people are keen on doing paypal for btc since there is a massive risk of charge back. That being said, there are always people that are willing to take the risk


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: manman523 on April 05, 2012, 10:42:22 PM
Hey guys, im just wondering whats my best way to buy bitcoins with paypal. Do I have to convert paypal to another currency or what ?

You would have to send whatever currency the seller wanted... As an fyi, not too many people are keen on doing paypal for btc since there is a massive risk of charge back. That being said, there are always people that are willing to take the risk
haha of course there will be i guess but will I be willing to buy from them? Theres a high chance i might just get scammed :(


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: bitcoinsarefun on April 05, 2012, 10:43:33 PM
Hey guys, im just wondering whats my best way to buy bitcoins with paypal. Do I have to convert paypal to another currency or what ?

You would have to send whatever currency the seller wanted... As an fyi, not too many people are keen on doing paypal for btc since there is a massive risk of charge back. That being said, there are always people that are willing to take the risk
haha of course there will be i guess but will I be willing to buy from them? Theres a high chance i might just get scammed :(

Explain how you will get scammed? The seller of bitcoin is assuming all the risk here, what is your risk?


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: 5850Guy on April 06, 2012, 12:06:47 AM
Hey guys, im just wondering whats my best way to buy bitcoins with paypal. Do I have to convert paypal to another currency or what ?

I've done it through virwox.com before.


It's a complicated process of paypal--->Linden Dollars--->BTC.

The fees are kind of ridiculous too.

Hopefully someone will post a better way..............


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: Rothgar on April 06, 2012, 12:09:23 AM
There is a better way the #bitcoin-otc on freenode.  You need to validate yourself with a PGP private key, but once you get used to that and build reputation, there's tons of transactions you can do.


http://bitcoin-otc.com/


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: Variable on April 06, 2012, 12:11:02 AM
there is no problem when buying with paypal, its all with selling.  thats the total risk as paypal assumes the responsibility on the seller not the buyer.


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: Stephen Gornick on April 06, 2012, 12:57:41 AM
Hey guys, im just wondering whats my best way to buy bitcoins with paypal. Do I have to convert paypal to another currency or what ?

Buy a little mini bit (about $0.50 worth, $1, worth or $2 worth):
 - http://minibits.weebly.com/buy.html

or buy a little bigger bit (either $5 worth or $10 worth) if you have a PayPal debit card  (or any credit card even):
 - http://www.blockchain.info/wallet

https://i.imgur.com/pJqTb.png


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: SistaS0uljah on April 06, 2012, 01:11:26 AM
I'm just not sure why some people are so set on PayPal.
An alternative that's more generally accepted is Dwolla (or depending on where you have your checking account there are other alternatives).
Dwolla is NOT a solution to the PayPal issue, it is simply another part of  the problem.  Dwolla is responsible for the closing of TradeHill, (the second largest exchange after Mt. Gox) which has now sued Dwolla for revoking hundreds of thousands of dollars from TradeHill's account.  Before TradeHill closed, they refunded all bitcoins to their users, so no TradeHill customers lost anything, but TradeHill lost EVERYTHING because of Dwolla's rescinding their "no chargeback" policy.  Dwolla then modified their website after the fact to allow chargebacks (which they had earlier proudly proclaimed they would never use).

I closed my Dwolla account and will never use them again.  I suggest you do the same.  Dwolla owes their success to Bitcoin, but now they've turned on us and made it far riskier to run an exchange.  You may notice that several exchanges are no longer using Dwolla because of what happened to TradeHill.


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: madcoweater on April 06, 2012, 01:19:58 AM
As others have mentioned bitcoin-otc.com (the IRC channel) is probably your best bet. You are going to have difficulty even there finding someone who will sell you bitcoins for paypal. If you do find someone they will probably only sell a small quantity and price gouge you until you have enough transactions to be trusted.


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: guruvan on April 06, 2012, 01:24:10 AM
The best way to buy BTC with PP is to

1) Get a PP debit card
2) Withdraw cash
3) Go to www.bitinstant.com or www.aurumxchange.com and fill in the form for a CASH deposit
 - choose a mtgox or bitcoinica or cryptoxchange code
4) Go to bank, deposit cash in Trustcash account
5) log into your exchange account
6) View funds
7) Buy BTC
8) ?? ??
9) Profit!!!

EDIT: Bonus hint: one has lower fees than the other, both are awesome
Bonus Hint 2: Get cash over a couple days buying stuff w/ the debit & cashback at grocery stores etc to save ATM fees


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: hotboy1504 on April 06, 2012, 02:50:55 AM
I think paypal is the most convenient and easy to buy bitcoins. You have another simple and more convenient. Please share!


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: Endgame on April 06, 2012, 05:55:54 AM
Buying bitcoins with paypal is a bad idea, as you will pay a significant premium to do so


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: Xmufa23X on April 06, 2012, 06:49:28 AM
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Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: arby on April 09, 2012, 07:16:50 AM
very hard to find a paypal bitcoin seller, especially if you are new.


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: casascius on April 10, 2012, 08:57:50 PM
What if the Best way of buying Bitcoins... is with Bitcoins?

Buy Bitcoins with Bitcoins at casascius.com!


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: Xmufa23X on April 11, 2012, 02:54:15 AM
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Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: btccomm on April 11, 2012, 08:42:33 PM
Hey guys, im just wondering whats my best way to buy bitcoins with paypal. Do I have to convert paypal to another currency or what ?

You would have to send whatever currency the seller wanted... As an fyi, not too many people are keen on doing paypal for btc since there is a massive risk of charge back. That being said, there are always people that are willing to take the risk

I saw some ebay auctions for bitcoin but the margin is quite high.  i suspect the risk of charge back is the reason


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: firepacket on April 11, 2012, 09:13:13 PM
What if the Best way of buying Bitcoins... is with Bitcoins?

Buy Bitcoins with Bitcoins at casascius.com!

Hey casascius,
How do you or your partners handle the risk associated with buying your coins via paypal or credit card? Is it because the goods are tangible and must be shipped that the risk is lower?


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: casascius on April 11, 2012, 10:55:11 PM
I don't know - I just recently noticed that only the smaller denominations are for sale at Memory Dealers.  I know PayPal threw a fit, but haven't heard if the credit card companies threw a fit too, or if there were recent problems I haven't heard about (fraud, etc.)


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: btccomm on April 11, 2012, 11:12:19 PM
casascius
 
    PM sent...


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: chickahoona on April 12, 2012, 02:43:48 PM
There should be a special paypal transaction, where the user agrees that there cannot be a chargeback. I refuse all paypal transactions as seller and always want paypal as buyer :D

Another huge problem are those stupid fees of 3% as a seller


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on April 12, 2012, 02:47:44 PM
There should be a special paypal transaction, where the user agrees that there cannot be a chargeback. I refuse all paypal transactions as seller and always want paypal as buyer :D

Another huge problem are those stupid fees of 3% as a seller

Can't because Paypal is simply a front for CC.  If a paypal account is hacked and the hacker uses it to purchase $20,000 in a no-chargeback tx (possibly to himself) do you think a) the customer is just going to say "oh well guess I have a $20,000 CC bill" or b) Paypal says "guess we eat $20K"?

The entire credit card model is based around no personal responsibility (except by merchants who take the cost/weight of all fraud).  You can't build an entire economic system w/ no responsibility and then at the highest level make it irreversible.

If you want irreversible tx it needs to be irreversible from the ground up.


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: Zollen on October 24, 2012, 02:33:43 PM
bump


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: allthingsluxury on October 24, 2012, 07:39:06 PM
Not many people are willing to sell bitcoins through paypal. It has a horribly bad track record of being scammed.


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: BCB on October 24, 2012, 07:41:38 PM
PM to purchase. I do require verification.


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: RobertHood on October 25, 2012, 01:48:13 AM
I used virwox.com and it worked out about £9 a coin with Paypal.


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: plogank on October 25, 2012, 02:19:27 AM
I'm just not sure why some people are so set on PayPal.
An alternative that's more generally accepted is Dwolla (or depending on where you have your checking account there are other alternatives).



If you've got funds in a Dwolla account, you might as well use MtGox.  It's a piece of cake once you get the funds to Dwolla.


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: Zollen on October 25, 2012, 02:23:42 AM
I'm just not sure why some people are so set on PayPal.
An alternative that's more generally accepted is Dwolla (or depending on where you have your checking account there are other alternatives).



If you've got funds in a Dwolla account, you might as well use MtGox.  It's a piece of cake once you get the funds to Dwolla.
Can I upload funds to dwolla straight from my Card?


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: bbit on October 25, 2012, 02:43:21 AM
I'm just not sure why some people are so set on PayPal.
An alternative that's more generally accepted is Dwolla (or depending on where you have your checking account there are other alternatives).



If you've got funds in a Dwolla account, you might as well use MtGox.  It's a piece of cake once you get the funds to Dwolla.

this ^^


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: bbit on October 25, 2012, 02:43:53 AM
I'm just not sure why some people are so set on PayPal.
An alternative that's more generally accepted is Dwolla (or depending on where you have your checking account there are other alternatives).



If you've got funds in a Dwolla account, you might as well use MtGox.  It's a piece of cake once you get the funds to Dwolla.
Can I upload funds to dwolla straight from my Card?

Nope, only bank transfer to dwolla.


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: Zollen on October 25, 2012, 12:05:28 PM
I'm just not sure why some people are so set on PayPal.
An alternative that's more generally accepted is Dwolla (or depending on where you have your checking account there are other alternatives).



If you've got funds in a Dwolla account, you might as well use MtGox.  It's a piece of cake once you get the funds to Dwolla.
Can I upload funds to dwolla straight from my Card?

Nope, only bank transfer to dwolla.
Thanks. Is there are any comission to transfer from dwolla to Gox? BTW I have read that dwolla was attacked and hacked in past, so is it safe?


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: MrSitype on October 25, 2012, 12:11:24 PM
What's the deal with VirWox ? Do you need to actually have an account on second life to do the PP > L$ > BTC trick ?


Title: Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal?
Post by: Stephen Gornick on October 26, 2012, 12:19:38 AM
What's the deal with VirWox ? Do you need to actually have an account on second life to do the PP > L$ > BTC trick ?

No, I don't believe you need to have or validate a second life avatar in order to buy L$ with PayPal, nor to trade them for BTC.

[Edit: Instructions here:
It also shows that you don't need to confirm the avatar.
 - http://www.scribd.com/doc/110005258/Buy-Bitcoin-via-Paypal-Paysafecard-Credit-Card-Ukash ]