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Title: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: giveBTCpls on August 26, 2014, 05:24:16 PM
The 1K milestone was the psychological barrier, and it was beaten. Given the moment in history we are, and given the intrustive technology behind BTC and what it all means, once we break 1K again, consolidation will ensue, all these ridiculous doubts will vanish, and those that sold will be butthurt in levels unknown to mankind. Once that barrier is crossed again, sky is the motherfucking limit.


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: gtac01 on August 26, 2014, 05:33:51 PM
agreed, and then































































































































































over 9000


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: vuduchyld on August 26, 2014, 05:37:56 PM
Seems legit.  Scientifically sound and valid...statistically proven likely...


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: trackermut on August 26, 2014, 05:40:27 PM
"butthurt in levels unknown to mankind" pmsl brilliant.  Falling you have been warned, last chance to stock up on the old KY and tampax.

Well said OP.


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: Mellnik on August 26, 2014, 06:04:05 PM
Once that barrier is crossed again, sky is the motherfucking limit.

Thought da moon iz teh limit?!1


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: Dafar on August 26, 2014, 06:27:54 PM
Can't wait til these pics are posted all over r/Bitcoin....



















http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/enzymeF/Setup/GIFs/its-over-9000.gif


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: kireinaha on August 26, 2014, 06:28:27 PM
So we need to break the "psychological barrier" of 1k not once... but twice? *Then* it's lift off?

Wow, now I'm sold on the future of bitcoin. How could anyone argue that?


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: exocytosis on August 26, 2014, 07:19:30 PM
1k will never be reached again. The best you can hope for is 700ish prices sometime next year. But it's quite likely that we've already entered the final capitulation stage.


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: Mellnik on August 26, 2014, 08:06:28 PM
capitulation stage.

What the fuck are you talking about?


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: exocytosis on August 26, 2014, 08:11:35 PM
capitulation stage.

What the fuck are you talking about?



I'm talking about the slow, gradual decline of Bitcoin, where weak hands will be shaken out, one after the other.


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: Mellnik on August 26, 2014, 08:13:04 PM
Sounds like you read that article about the blockchain becoming larger and larger therefore not maintainable by old shitpcs.


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: Wekkel on August 27, 2014, 05:26:05 AM
capitulation stage.

What the fuck are you talking about?



I'm talking about the slow, gradual decline of Bitcoin, where weak hands will be shaken out, one after the other.

Talking about a slow period is different than saying it will never go higher again. What's the purpose of Bitcoin at current levels of use (hint: none in the long run). It is either death or victory. I put my chances on victory. Still the best asymmetric bet out there.


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: exocytosis on August 27, 2014, 02:27:30 PM
capitulation stage.

What the fuck are you talking about?



I'm talking about the slow, gradual decline of Bitcoin, where weak hands will be shaken out, one after the other.

Talking about a slow period is different than saying it will never go higher again. What's the purpose of Bitcoin at current levels of use (hint: none in the long run). It is either death or victory. I put my chances on victory. Still the best asymmetric bet out there.


Purpose?
This is how a free market operates. Supply and demand. Sellers and buyers agree on a price they find reasonable at the time.

It's not either "death or victory". Bitcoin will almost seem stable, just gently continuing its downward path, with small ups and downs now and then.


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: thecast on August 27, 2014, 04:47:21 PM
Calm down and enjoy the ride up.


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: counter on August 27, 2014, 08:49:43 PM
capitulation stage.

What the fuck are you talking about?



I'm talking about the slow, gradual decline of Bitcoin, where weak hands will be shaken out, one after the other.

Talking about a slow period is different than saying it will never go higher again. What's the purpose of Bitcoin at current levels of use (hint: none in the long run). It is either death or victory. I put my chances on victory. Still the best asymmetric bet out there.


Purpose?
This is how a free market operates. Supply and demand. Sellers and buyers agree on a price they find reasonable at the time.

It's not either "death or victory". Bitcoin will almost seem stable, just gently continuing its downward path, with small ups and downs now and then.

I tend to agree that we will without a doubt see Bitcoin over 1000$  I personally would like you to share some analysis for why it wouldn't, if I may ask?  I've read many posts on this forum suggesting the price of a Single Bitcoin being much higher then $1000. 

Now you come out and say it will never happen ever?  My mind is blown that you could claim BTC could never go that high again.  So any technical analysis you could share to explain your point further is again much appreciated.


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: CEG5952 on August 27, 2014, 09:13:51 PM
Don't underestimate the power of psychology, and in aggregate, market psychology. We could certainly pass $1k, perhaps even push for a slightly higher ATH..... but if the bubble doesn't then materialize, serious despair will set in. Too many bitcoin holders are emotionally and financially invested in another bubble. I don't like to project this far into the future, but this is a higher probability outcome in my view than straight to $5k or $10k or $1 million (whatever you bubble guys are always saying).

If you look at weekly charts + momentum (RSI, RMI, etc), the last bubble was much less powerful than the early 2013 bubble. Don't be surprised if the next "bubble" continues in this fashion -- or fails entirely as longterm momentum continues to break down.


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: exocytosis on August 27, 2014, 09:19:18 PM
So any technical analysis you could share to explain your point further is again much appreciated.

Technical analysis is bullshit. I only look at the fundamentals.

There's nothing that can drive Bitcoin back to its ATH, or anywhere near it. Willybot's manipulation games were the specific historical circumstances that drove the November 2013 rally.

Look at the statistics of user adoption, and you'll see that BTC is declining. It's not as high up in Google searchtrends as it used to be, and the Average Joe is smart enough to stay away from this speculative pyramid scheme. Meanwhile, increased merchant adoption is obviously driving price down, an undeniable fact noted by every knowledgeable observer.

The Winklevii ETF is already priced in. When insiders learn that the ETF won't be approved, they'll start dumping their coins. The price will plummet, and the cultist permabulls will panic sell until BTC settles at 250ish prices. Shortly after that, it'll bounce up to 370 or so.

Bitcoin is not going to zero anytime soon, but it's in a bear market and will stay there for the unforeseeable future, whether the cultists like it or not.

But BTC is quite good for short-term trading.


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: Gimmelfarb on August 27, 2014, 09:34:10 PM
So any technical analysis you could share to explain your point further is again much appreciated.

Technical analysis is bullshit. I only look at the fundamentals.

There's nothing that can drive Bitcoin back to its ATH, or anywhere near it. Willybot's manipulation games were the specific historical circumstances that drove the November 2013 rally.

Look at the statistics of user adoption, and you'll see that BTC is declining. It's not as high up in Google searchtrends as it used to be, and the Average Joe is smart enough to stay away from this speculative pyramid scheme. Meanwhile, increased merchant adoption is obviously driving price down, an undeniable fact noted by every knowledgeable observer.

The Winklevii ETF is already priced in. When insiders learn that the ETF won't be approved, they'll start dumping their coins. The price will plummet, and the cultist permabulls will panic sell until BTC settles at 250ish prices. Shortly after that, it'll bounce up to 370 or so.

Bitcoin is not going to zero anytime soon, but it's in a bear market and will stay there for the unforeseeable future, whether the cultists like it or not.

But BTC is quite good for short-term trading.

funny that you call TA bullshit while touting FA, when FA in bitcoin is completely abstract. bitcoin is not a stock -- fundamentals are based on speculating on future earnings. so one is limited to gauging "interest" in bitcoin -- what a bloody nightmare. completely abstract.

regarding user adoption, the number of new wallets or core downloads are terribly unreliable data. google trends historically lags so far behind that it is likely a horrible indicator. sure, merchant adoption drives price down in the mid term, but we have no reliable data as to the end condition of fiat inflow vs. fiat outflow.

fundamental analysis is based on crazy, crazy speculation. this is why many pure FAers around here are in the "million dollar bitcoins in 10 years" camp. because they rely on horribly misused data and controversial/unproven theories like Metcalfe's "law" to come to those conclusions.

TA at least visually represents who is selling and who is buying, at what volumes and with what momentum. this can tell you a lot about how people perceive the price of bitcoin and its future. there are some good arguments as to why TA is useful here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678470.0;all

why do you assume the ETF won't be approved? and by the way, how do you "short-term trade" BTC based on fundamental analysis? serious question. ;)


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: counter on August 27, 2014, 09:36:54 PM
There's nothing that can drive Bitcoin back to its ATH, or anywhere near it.  The Usual fud propaganda..

Oh ok that is what I figured, you have no real explanation and your attempting to spread the fud propaganda for newbies who don't know any better.  Good luck with that, I was just looking for some real insight on your claim of Bitcoin not breaking $1000 ever again..


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: chairforce1 on August 27, 2014, 09:40:16 PM
https://i.imgur.com/vGhua9s.png


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: zimmah on September 11, 2014, 01:14:15 PM
Can't wait til these pics are posted all over r/Bitcoin....



















http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/enzymeF/Setup/GIFs/its-over-9000.gif

when that happens, i think it will become such a big meme that $15000+ will soon follow, lol.


Title: Re: It only takes breaking the psychological barrier of 1K twice to go several moons
Post by: whysosweet on September 11, 2014, 01:24:00 PM
1000 dollars is the last barrier we have before entering in the exponential growth of the S curve trendline.