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Bitcoin => Mining support => Topic started by: ioang on August 26, 2014, 05:25:55 PM



Title: need help
Post by: ioang on August 26, 2014, 05:25:55 PM
Hello guys,i need some help to generate bitcoins with my laptop and my pc...
I have a wallet but i dont know how to generate them and i need someone to explain very goood what do  i need to do.


Title: Re: need help
Post by: tipsysnake on August 26, 2014, 05:55:10 PM
In short don't. You need to do some research.

Its nearly impossible to generate BTC with a laptop.

ASICS are the only way to generate bitcoins with any chance of profit.


Title: Re: need help
Post by: ioang on August 26, 2014, 07:16:18 PM
Hooo guys.
My laptop is an alienware from the last year.
I just want to know how to mine ...cause they are already open every day non-stop and at the night doing nothing.


Title: Re: need help
Post by: byt411 on August 26, 2014, 07:20:21 PM
Hooo guys.
My laptop is an alienware from the last year.
I just want to know how to mine ...cause they are already open every day non-stop and at the night doing nothing.

That doesn't matter. Laptops are useless for mining.
You really need to watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmOzih6I1zs


Title: Re: need help
Post by: vm1990 on August 26, 2014, 10:21:27 PM
Hooo guys.
My laptop is an alienware from the last year.
I just want to know how to mine ...cause they are already open every day non-stop and at the night doing nothing.

That doesn't matter. Laptops are useless for mining.
You really need to watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmOzih6I1zs

he could turn his laptop into a very very expensive dead paper weight... thats always useful he can use it to hold open doors. hold papers down. stop the car rolling down a hill... newbies are so anoying when they dont do even a bit of research


Title: Re: need help
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on August 26, 2014, 10:36:09 PM
Hooo guys.
My laptop is an alienware from the last year.
I just want to know how to mine ...cause they are already open every day non-stop and at the night doing nothing.
I don't care if that laptop actually came from aliens, using it to mine BTC is pointless.  Maybe three years ago you would have been successful with it.  Now?  Not a chance.


Title: Re: need help
Post by: notlist3d on August 27, 2014, 04:01:13 AM
Hooo guys.
My laptop is an alienware from the last year.
I just want to know how to mine ...cause they are already open every day non-stop and at the night doing nothing.

One card is very little even if its the best gaming laptop for consumers or desktop.  GPU's use a lot of electricity and for most people it's not profitable anymore.  I moved to ASICs like others mentioned.

And you will be putting a lot of stress on your laptop.  You will see many open air GPU miners there is a reason for this if you push it the cards get hot and lots of heat.  Mining with a laptop is asking for trouble.  It can be done yes but good way to push your laptop to hard.


Title: Re: need help
Post by: ioang on August 27, 2014, 06:22:37 AM
Ok,then from where can i buy an asic chip or something online to work for me ?
Something like hashprofit ?


Title: Re: need help
Post by: notlist3d on August 27, 2014, 08:10:29 AM
Ok,then from where can i buy an asic chip or something online to work for me ?
Something like hashprofit ?

You can buy equipment on the forum in group buy's : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=137.0

There is a hardware section, there are websites.

It sounds like you are wanting to mine Scrypt is that correct?  Or is straight BTC mining ok? For beginning i suggest straight BTC miner personally.   


Title: Re: need help
Post by: ioang on August 27, 2014, 09:10:42 AM
Yes i want to mine btc.
I have 15 dollars to spent on online btc mining.
From where can i buy something like that ?


Title: Re: need help
Post by: byt411 on August 27, 2014, 10:38:41 AM
Yes i want to mine btc.
I have 15 dollars to spent on online btc mining.
From where can i buy something like that ?

15 dollars? Are you serious?
You cannot buy any equipment that will profit with 15 dollars. Don't even think about it unless you have a couple hundred to spare.


Title: Re: need help
Post by: notlist3d on August 27, 2014, 10:43:04 AM
For that you could get like a block erupter on ebay and learn to mine.  Although you are better off just buying 15 dollars in BTC as almost all hardware are above 15 dollars.


Title: Re: need help
Post by: ioang on August 27, 2014, 01:24:57 PM
Can i buy some ghs from cex.io?
Does it worth to >?


Title: Re: need help
Post by: Plumpkatt1 on August 27, 2014, 03:53:47 PM
Yes i want to mine btc.
I have 15 dollars to spent on online btc mining.
From where can i buy something like that ?

15 dollars? Are you serious?
You cannot buy any equipment that will profit with 15 dollars. Don't even think about it unless you have a couple hundred to spare.

You can get a Fury from Gaw Miners for under 40 bucks shipped and connect it to your laptop using the included USB cord and it's powered by the included power brick(60 watt, 5 amp, 115 volt AC). Then use a mining application such as BFGminer.


Title: Re: need help
Post by: byt411 on August 27, 2014, 04:27:12 PM
Yes i want to mine btc.
I have 15 dollars to spent on online btc mining.
From where can i buy something like that ?

15 dollars? Are you serious?
You cannot buy any equipment that will profit with 15 dollars. Don't even think about it unless you have a couple hundred to spare.

You can get a Fury from Gaw Miners for under 40 bucks shipped and connect it to your laptop using the included USB cord and it's powered by the included power brick(60 watt, 5 amp, 115 volt AC). Then use a mining application such as BFGminer.

Yup, since you will no longer ROI on that thing. You even forgot to add shipping, and I'm pretty sure that a primary kid would know that that is more than 15 dollars.

No, don't buy on cex.io, since you will earn a negative profit. So yeah.


Title: Re: need help
Post by: ioang on August 27, 2014, 06:01:05 PM
So,from where can i buy something like ghs  from cex.io?
Is hashprofit a scam site or its legit ?


Title: Re: need help
Post by: byt411 on August 27, 2014, 06:11:32 PM
So,from where can i buy something like ghs  from cex.io?
Is hashprofit a scam site or its legit ?


I suggest you stop trying to get into mining, you're really better off buying btc, and that's it.


Title: Re: need help
Post by: ioang on August 27, 2014, 06:17:32 PM
I just really want to mine ...i think that will be a good idea.
After i buy btc what can i do ?


Title: Re: need help
Post by: byt411 on August 27, 2014, 06:21:21 PM
I just really want to mine ...i think that will be a good idea.
After i buy btc what can i do ?

You can mine, but you won't profit.
After you buy btc you can sit and watch as the price fluctuates.


Title: Re: need help
Post by: ioang on August 27, 2014, 06:32:34 PM
And then?How can i produce more btc ?I buy one and the prices go higher and then they remain like that..what can i do after?


Title: Re: need help
Post by: byt411 on August 27, 2014, 07:02:11 PM
And then?How can i produce more btc ?I buy one and the prices go higher and then they remain like that..what can i do after?

You can sell it. No, you can't "produce more btc" except for mining, and you cannot buy profitable mining hardware with 15 dollars.


Title: Re: need help
Post by: ioang on August 27, 2014, 07:14:33 PM
Ok,but if the prices are staying higher and aren't going down what will be the profit if ill sell the btc?
Example:I buy 1 btc right now and next year it will become 2000$ and the prices will never go down from that.If ill sell my btc for 2000 i will have a profit about of 1500 $ but then ill be without btc.
So here is the next question,what to do after i sell a btc and the prices are never going down?


Title: Re: need help
Post by: byt411 on August 27, 2014, 07:29:44 PM
Ok,but if the prices are staying higher and aren't going down what will be the profit if ill sell the btc?
Example:I buy 1 btc right now and next year it will become 2000$ and the prices will never go down from that.If ill sell my btc for 2000 i will have a profit about of 1500 $ but then ill be without btc.
So here is the next question,what to do after i sell a btc and the prices are never going down?

Again, that depends on you. If you believe that BTC will replace fiat, then just don't sell it and wait for mass adoption. If you think it's just a bubble, then sell it when you feel the time is right.

I strongly suggest you do your own research and use your own thinking instead of asking others for everything.


Title: Re: need help
Post by: ioang on August 28, 2014, 01:47:18 PM
What if i buy more ghs from cex.io?
Does it worth to ?


Title: Re: need help
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on August 28, 2014, 06:42:24 PM
What if i buy more ghs from cex.io?
Does it worth to ?
This has already been answered.  I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish here.  You've got $15.  What do you think you're going to obtain with that $15?  You certainly aren't going to turn that $15 into $30, $40, $100 by mining.  If BTC price skyrockets, you might make some profit if you just straight out buy BTC now and hold onto it.

Let me just put some numbers out there for you to hopefully clear this up once and for all.  Right now, that $15 will get you just about 0.03BTC.  If you wanted to purchase hashing on cex.io, you would get about 10GH/s.  As of this moment, that 10GH/s would expect to earn about 0.0002109BTC (which is about $0.10) a day.  Now, you have to factor in cex.io charges hefty maintenance fees, and that in about 3 days the difficulty is going to go up again and you're going to make even less.  This pattern continues to repeat itself with you making less and less as time goes on.  Even if the difficulty never changed and cex.io didn't charge you any fees and you made the expected payout, it would take you about 150 days to make back your initial $15 investment.

Still think you should purchase hashing power?  If yes, re-read what I wrote over and over until you understand why you shouldn't.


Title: Re: need help
Post by: ioang on August 28, 2014, 09:49:47 PM
That i needed.Thx johny.
I think that ill just keep getting money and then buy a entire bitcoin.