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ICO price is VERY high.  What makes Null worth investing in?

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ICO, no innovation, no PoD. These new fresh coins probably have the same owner.

Yes.

And.

Another.

Shit.

Coin.

 :D

no thank you

No thank you, newbie developer who wants easy BTC...

What guarantee does POD give you? Recently a scammer paid a third party to be his "developer" and scammed an entire community out of their BTC.

Bet not, as Carlson is busy sucking cocks.

NULL has proper roadmap set. Next in order is to release the whitepaper which will explain exactly how ICO funds will used and when exactly the announced features can be expected.

Would comment......but think what I would say has already been hammered here hard lol:-)

This shit has got fucking end around here!!

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Would providing full information help you to trust this coin? We, developers, are paying the high price of scammers. It is totally understandable, as PR it will be my job to help each of you gain confidence in this group of developers and particularly this coin.

You shouldn't have launched this from a brand fucking new account to start off with, and did with an ICO!!  Who the fuck is going to trust this enough to send you money, well anyone that has been around for more than a day anyways.

You're not paying for "the scammers" you are paying for following in their foot steps lol!

Should have POW too, mining is interesting, and no everyone has btc to buy ico on cCex.

No thanks  ;D

I suggest going with coinssource verification if you wish to pass on POD. Although I'd suggest both. I think all ICO coins nowadays need at least some form of developer verification, be it through an exchange or one of the above methods.

A somewhat interesting choice of a coin name there. Null means something is invalid, or zero.

No thanks....

If you think you can explain why and how you want POS/ICO on a newbie account with a terrible name with no features/purpose these days you're off your face.

How about providing Wallet and Web App before ICO, you have nothing except some words with your newbie account, how can we trust you? tell me!

35,000 per coin... for a coin that isn't even launched yet?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/aa4b0dcf73eed63aa4d06f2671701d67/tumblr_mntqwpuku71qlgr6qo2_250.gif

if you are thinking about investing in this one, do yourself a favor and DON'T

I won't Thank You.

"Null" coin, as in after you fork over your BTC for the ICO that's exactly what you are going to get, nada

Our development team has contacted Cryptoasian to get a POD. ICO will be hosted by C-cex, they will not release the funds to the development team unless certain criterias are met. Wallet will be available for testing by selected members of the community, and open google hangout sessions will be conducted.

Isn't Cryptasian the one that is providing fake "paid for" PODs?  C-Cex seems a bad recommendation right now as well, problems with their ICOs have much of the community losing much respect for that exchange.

I'm not trying to be a jerk man, just saying this stuff is getting bad and the majority of people are gonna laugh at this. 

My development team is trying to be open with the community. As a trusted member, what do you suggest or recommend we do. We are a legitimate team, and as such we are willing to go the extra mile.

ICO price is VERY high.  :-\

ICO, lmao, look at the recent scam icos... and NULL, a nice name and if scammed you know what null is ;D

I fixed the OP, there was a typo with the ICO price. Price is 0.000025 BTC (not 0.00035).

Go with pod + coins source trust rating

Forget c-cex, use poloniex. Their newer ICD rules state that the devs do not get the funds upfront. They only get funds as they need them, for stated coin dev purposes, with a strict ledger. They also require a valid form of ID.

And consider changing the name of the coin.

We have already contacted Cryptoasian regarding POD and will be doing coins source trust rating as well.

We cannot change the name of the coin. We have registered domains, have a working website, email addresses and logos created for NULL.

We have already been in contact with C-CEX, so ethically we cannot go back on that decision, we have made a commitment with them, and we are going to honor our word.

If there is anything else that our team can do I am happy to listen.

Newbie dev and price is too high.

Honestly man......I am feeling fail on this one.  Your name is gonna kill if nothing else and you cannot change that.  C-Cex will NOT be trusted by the community right now.....this is going to give you a VERY rough start getting people on board.  You throw on top the newbie account and not disclosing your real account/s.....just can't see this going anywhere.

this seems like a copy of Bitmo  ???

It won't go anywhere, the newbie dev, nothing interesting or new features, overpriced ICO didn't convince into not trying this out. What did convince me to stay as far as fucken possible from this is the ICO being hosting on c-cex.

Let me guess POD will be done when the ICO is done right lol...

Prove your not going to scam and post with your real bct username...your full of shit if you say this is your first time here.

do not use copy waste your time

I like the name it's interesting.
Most coins start from new accounts if the devs are going to do POD and coin source trust rating i believe it's fine.
Also Bitmo cloned features from other coins lol.. same as NWO.
If the devs are open to the community i don't see a problem with this coin, i personal will buy some! :D

This is the same "DEV" as NWO scam, BE CAREFUL AND DONT INVEST!

Poppet account to scam you all...

No lol, i was just stating my opinion of the matter
Also learn to spell  ;D

You'd think with the general consensus that people around here hate ICO you'd expect devs to stop pushing this shit around here.

I haven't been super active around here for long, but I've been here long enough to recognize another quick-buck scam coin. This one smells a lot like it to me.

dev,you should change another exchange to lauch ICO...c-cex is not a good place.

Some people hate cryptsy, some people hate bittrex, some people hate mintpal. Everyone has opinions on exchanges, yours is no different from anyone else. C-Cex is a great place to hold an ICO, just as good as anywhere.

For as long as there are fools who will happily part with their money on crap like this there will always be someone else happy enough to oblige them.

HAHAHAHA NWO dev wants to scam more. becareful guys do not trust c-cex verification doesn't account for shit

The ICO has started
We have two distribution phrases early bird and last minute investor.
Early Bird price per coin 0.00001800
Last Minute Investor per coin 0.00002500
https://c-cex.com/?p=null-btc

C-cex will hold all ico funds til we have provide id verification and video verification.


We are still waiting for a reply from cryptoasian.. We plan to have POD before the ico ends.  

if people invest this after NWO you deserve to lose your btc

lol c-cex says you have been vetted and you say they haven't lol SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM

If you put any money in a c-cex ICO after NWO you deserve to lose your money.

Don't whine about it afterwards. 

LOL we think alike

In before people come back to this thread crying for refunds...

look how dev contradicts himself in the OP he first says due to recent experiences we will not go through the POD route but at the bottom he says they have contacted cryptoasian lol

SCAM SCAM SCAM

c-cex are involved in this scam

Sorry the op will updated later today.
People wanted us to do the POD.

ICO without POD? I´m out!

Too late NULL. The ICO scam phase is over.

Ahahahah STACKCOIN.GIF IS BACK! But really you need to try harder to scam, put some nice effort into it, not just a shiny discoball logo. At least make a video or something.

Vetted like the NWO dev who dumped the whole premine right after market opened on c-cex yesterday? Seriosly guys, what stuff are you smoking?

Anyone that buys this after all the warnings deserve to lose their money. Don't fall for these IPO/ICO scams.

I would consider buying it if it wasn;t asking for 1800 sats a piece! Jesus.  :D

Newbie account - check
Large premine camouflaged as ICO - check
ICO held at the scamtabulous C-CEX - check

If ANYONE is STUPID enough to put their BTC into this then they deserve to lose it all.

Let there be a new mantra "Hell no, ICO"

Sing it brothers  :D

 So, about your distribution plan, is the ICO "it" or are you planning any giveaways?

this probably IS the NWO dev.  In to watch newbies get burnt and quit crypto.

We have zero connection with NWO

Oh, phew. I'm in!

Fools and newbies have lost 1.35 btc so far to this scam.  Is that all it takes to succeed in crypto?  Shit c-cex, I'd like to ICO a coin.  My name is Inigo Montoya (for POD).

As far as I have observed most of ICO coins that came out recently turned into scam. Just be careful and selective when investing on ICO coins to avoid losing your hard earned money.

WARNING

DO NOT BUY ICO / IPO AT C-CEX

OR YOU WILL LOSS YOUR BITCOIN.

Don't say you weren't warned either.  I don't know about C-CEX stealing your BTC, but keep in mind that NWO is trading for 1/20th what it was just hours ago.  "NULL" was attempted about 7 months ago too by the way.

what the fuck c-cex is doing ,make a NWO scam coin ICO , now again make shit coin ICO ,,,c-cex go die

C-CEX is taking the required measures to guarantee everyone's investment. ICO will be held for three days after its over, and proper identification will be done by our entire team. What can we do to get members of this community to take a look at our plan? I am not asking everyone to get involved, but to offer constructive criticism.

Aside from this being most likely a scam, this coin offers nothing. It is nothing. It is worth nothing. If you are looking for a coin that is no different from 2000 others there are far cheaper ones, like Plebe for instance. That should be reason enough not to buy it.

'null
nəl/Submit
adjective
1.
having no legal or binding force; invalid.
"the establishment of a new interim government was declared null and void"
synonyms:   invalid, null and void, void; More
antonyms:   valid
2.
having or associated with the value zero.'

One thing the dev has done right is the name.

I find it sort of interesting how people react to icos. So many people have been burned, be it from bittrex/polo/regular escrow or on c-cex, I guess they simply want a place to vent their anger. Some folks honestly may be just trying to warn others.

I don't view all icos as scams, but of course many are. I'll also add I have little interest in this coin and simply posted because I found the choice of 'null' as a name so bizarre. Same way as if you saw a headline that read 'Invalid -- Invest in the Future' ... my curiosity led me to read this thread.

As for constructive criticism, see if c-cex will agree to revise their ico rules so the team doesn't get all the funding immediately. Or see if polo will take the coin in conjunction with c-cex, as you can use their icd rules, and they will hold the funding until it is needed. That is the biggest risk of course ... devs get their money, then bail.

There are a number of red flags here, even overlooking the ICO stuff. The choice of the coin's name (you must have realized the meaning of the word Null, right?), the first page states that you won't do pod, then beneath it states you will (maybe update that), the whitepaper isn't out yet, mobile apps aren't available until after you are paid, and honestly, what is so special about the coin or plan? You don't need a whitepaper to outline why your coin is unique in some way, or why people should invest in it at all.

That's a lot of keystrokes to put my post in your own words, a simple +1 would have been easier/quicker.

The dev asked for constructive criticism, so I offered suggestions as to how he could improve things. It wasn't meant just as a complaint type of post.

Whether or not he does any of those things is another matter. By having whomever is doing the escrow hold the funds until they are used for what they say they will, it does get around one major issue most people have with ICOs.

They will still be stuck with that name though.

Thanks for your input. Many of us, I include myself have seen ICO scams or have been scammed a few satoshis at least once. C-cex will not release the funds until all necessary precautions are taken. I will be working to be as transparent as possible, and for everyone to see exactly what we are doing.

I'm not talking about releasing the funds after they check out the wallet and make sure it's working properly. Nor releasing funds a couple of days after the ICO.

I mean releasing funds over the period of months. You need funds to hire a dev, submit a request and outlined plan, then they dribble out those funds. You need btc for marketing, the same. That sort of thing. Only Poloniex is currently doing ICOs that way, that I am aware of, but it's really how ICOs should be run.

Then again, it may not matter if this ICO doesn't do particularly well. If you are talking about a handful of btc, it's not exactly a big deal either way.

I agree with you, but wether it is only 1 BTC or 50 BTC it matters equally.

newbie-dev, it would be find if you send source code to coinssource.com for verify
sorry if my saying not nice  ;)
 

Its ok. We will also be sending source to coinssource for verification, nothing to hide :)

Add POW !!! at lease for a day or two.

Still a scam.

ICO from a newbie dev with no actual plan for innovation. Just some copycat buzzwords.

Say he was legit and got the ICO money. That money just pays for a boring clone.  So what?  Who wants that?  Who is willing to pay for that in advance?

there are no buy orders and no one has touched this coin in days.  Clearly the ICO has failed.  What is c-cex waiting for ?  Refund BTC and delist the coin.  Time to move on.  Keeping it just sitting there with 0 volume and 0 buys just makes C-cex look like a trailer trash exchange. 

+1

so wtf happened here?

The pre sale dissapeared of c-cex, but the coins are gone and so is the btc?  Anyone?

Anyone?

C-Cex refunded the IPO.  I got mine back. Thats all I know.