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Title: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: nWoCrypto on August 29, 2014, 05:10:55 PM

What happened to NWO? The team consisted of two people, project manager and developer. An agreement was reached on how the project would go down, and how payment would happen after ICO was complete, as well as what features would be delivered going forward. As you all know, the ICO sold out in under 24 hours. The project lead and developer then discussed compensation as C-Cex verified the wallet and blockchain. They could not reach agreement. Things escalated. Harsh words were exchanged. The dev deleted the github and left the project. The dev was never paid. The project lead then placed buy support on the NWO market, maintaining the price, while he tried to resolve things with the dev. No resoution was reached. The project lead then came to me looking to find a dev to step in and fix things. A search was begun to find some one with the ability, and time, to step in and fix the source, set a checkpoint to invalidate the premine, and fork the coin.

With no github source, the block explorer stopped working. It was noticed that the github source was gone, the wallet links were gone, and that the block explorer no longer worked. This was then pointed out in the trollbox. The dev then dumped the 200k premine. A lot more harsh words were then exchanged in ccex trollbox. Two threads were posted on the BCT forums about what happened. One by the original dev, one by some one else. C-cex is not to blame in all of this. What happened here was not the result of a failed identity check or failed vetting of the code. No amount of additional ones would have prevented this from happening. This is on the NWO team, and no one else. Where is NWO now? Currently in talks with several developers to step in. After that, will come the other features, down the road.


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: najzenmajsen on August 29, 2014, 05:11:15 PM
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Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: SecondsOld on August 29, 2014, 05:12:21 PM

What happened to NWO? The team consisted of two people, project manager and developer. An agreement was reached on how the project would go down, and how payment would happen after ICO was complete, as well as what features would be delivered going forward. As you all know, the ICO sold out in under 24 hours. The project lead and developer then discussed compensation as C-Cex verified the wallet and blockchain. They could not reach agreement. Things escalated. Harsh words were exchanged. The dev deleted the github and left the project. The dev was never paid.

Whaaa???  So C-Cex still has all the IPO funds?


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: philipvdlinde on August 29, 2014, 05:19:05 PM
I hope the ipo funds haven't been sent yet, I am extremely dissapointed in how this went.


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: spofas on August 29, 2014, 05:23:51 PM
So what are the plans for it?


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: rafetaz on August 29, 2014, 05:37:36 PM
Plan? If itīs true, @CryptoCurrEncyX should take some way as @BittrexExchange did with #CLSTR and REFUND investors setting a buy wall at ICO prices.


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: Miller0 on August 29, 2014, 05:47:09 PM
Principle scam :o


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: nWoCrypto on August 29, 2014, 05:53:10 PM
We are currently seeking a developer to join the team and fix the source.


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: Bitcycle on August 29, 2014, 05:53:45 PM

Where is the ICO money?

This is a simple question, and it should have a direct answer immediately.


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: djm34 on August 29, 2014, 06:01:03 PM
lol How can anybody be disapointed by an IPO coin... people investing in that should invest in a better brain before  ;D


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: mountainview on August 29, 2014, 06:07:14 PM
well, who got the 30+ BTCs? Why not you return it to C-Cex? To prove that you are innocent


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: philipvdlinde on August 29, 2014, 06:09:00 PM
Lol I think it's funny that the dev is not answering the question that's haunting us all. Where is our money?


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: landslide on August 29, 2014, 06:09:43 PM

Where is the ICO money?

This is a simple question, and it should have a direct answer immediately.

This is exactly THE question... didn't you take all the 30+ BTCs, so because of that the coin dev quitted? Why are you so greedy? Now why not you return all the BTCs to C-cex, so that investors like myself will get refund from this scam YOU created?


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: francoise on August 29, 2014, 06:13:40 PM
wow this shameless guy is trying to explain! Please return the ICO money you cheated to c-cex first, then we will listen to your explanations. The entire ICO money is in your hand now, isn't it?



Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: landslide on August 29, 2014, 06:22:56 PM
wow this shameless guy is trying to explain! Please return the ICO money you cheated to c-cex first, then we will listen to your explanations. The entire ICO money is in your hand now, isn't it?



Exactly, return the money you cheated first.

BTW, why not you identify yourself, and then get out of this forum? The less people like you as scammers, the better the altcoin space will be. Because of the people like you, the ICOs are being rejected by many people. Why you are so greedy? if you are less greedy, you still get a lot, and you also make everyone happy and build your credibility. But of course scammers never need credibilities.


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: georgehosterguy on August 29, 2014, 06:24:41 PM

What happened to NWO? The team consisted of two people, project manager and developer. An agreement was reached on how the project would go down, and how payment would happen after ICO was complete, as well as what features would be delivered going forward. As you all know, the ICO sold out in under 24 hours. The project lead and developer then discussed compensation as C-Cex verified the wallet and blockchain. They could not reach agreement. Things escalated. Harsh words were exchanged. The dev deleted the github and left the project. The dev was never paid. The project lead then placed buy support on the NWO market, maintaining the price, while he tried to resolve things with the dev. No resoution was reached. The project lead then came to me looking to find a dev to step in and fix things. A search was begun to find some one with the ability, and time, to step in and fix the source, set a checkpoint to invalidate the premine, and fork the coin.

With no github source, the block explorer stopped working. It was noticed that the github source was gone, the wallet links were gone, and that the block explorer no longer worked. This was then pointed out in the trollbox. The dev then dumped the 200k premine. A lot more harsh words were then exchanged in ccex trollbox. Two threads were posted on the BCT forums about what happened. One by the original dev, one by some one else. C-cex is not to blame in all of this. What happened here was not the result of a failed identity check or failed vetting of the code. No amount of additional ones would have prevented this from happening. This is on the NWO team, and no one else. Where is NWO now? Currently in talks with several developers to step in. After that, will come the other features, down the road.


Bwahahaha rofl!!!!

You can't make this stuff up ....


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: windows88 on August 29, 2014, 06:28:49 PM
lmao, scammer please return the money! A bad potato in forum...


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: nWoTeam on August 29, 2014, 06:33:10 PM
Of the ICO, 22BTC remains after paying for listing fees, promotion, website, and buy support when market launched. There is also 140k NWO from the buy walls placed in support, that got dumped on. The project manager currently holds all funds. 5 BTC of what remains is being used to hire a new dev to fix the source and maintain the code.



Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: georgehosterguy on August 29, 2014, 06:35:41 PM
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buy support when market launched

So ... I wonder if Facebook did this with their IPO?  Half the funds went to buy support.   :D  Lolzing so hard I'm  :'(

Goodluck all investors sorry you were stupidz  :-*


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: philipvdlinde on August 29, 2014, 07:00:39 PM
Of the ICO, 22BTC remains after paying for listing fees, promotion, website, and buy support when market launched. There is also 140k NWO from the buy walls placed in support, that got dumped on. The project manager currently holds all funds. 5 BTC of what remains is being used to hire a new dev to fix the source and maintain the code.


Lol, do you really think people still want to hold on to their nwo? We want a refund and that's final. People feel scammed and they have all rights to get their money back.


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: bitcoinwonders010 on August 29, 2014, 07:07:42 PM
Of the ICO, 22BTC remains after paying for listing fees, promotion, website, and buy support when market launched. There is also 140k NWO from the buy walls placed in support, that got dumped on. The project manager currently holds all funds. 5 BTC of what remains is being used to hire a new dev to fix the source and maintain the code.



what i am trying to understand who is the project manager that has the 22btc. is that you. you say 5btc remains what has happened to the other 17btc.


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: o48o on August 29, 2014, 07:24:29 PM
So, let me get this straight... Ipo money is safe, Source got deleted and premine dumped? Right?


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: nWoCrypto on August 29, 2014, 07:27:56 PM
So, let me get this straight... Ipo money is safe, Source got deleted and premine dumped? Right?

Yes that is correct.


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: bitcoinwonders010 on August 29, 2014, 07:44:32 PM
So, let me get this straight... Ipo money is safe, Source got deleted and premine dumped? Right?

Yes that is correct.

look you can see for yourself the shit storm this drama has created. you sound like a legit guy. you rarely see the OP coming back to post. all il says is this you say you had 22btc coins right. total coins at 1.1million right simply place a 22btc buy order at 2000 sats. this way people can get out at a loss of 50%. at the moment the loss is to great and trust me everyone can agree you will be just wasting btc hiring a dev because a hired dev is not as motivated as the original dev. everyone knows this coin is dead. i would advise you to do that to put up a wall at 2000 sats so we can take a 50% loss rather than 90%.

you can ask the community if they want this because i would be just happy to get out of this mess.

get people of your back.


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: bitcoinwonders010 on August 29, 2014, 07:48:50 PM
wait you said 140k was already bought right so 960k coins need to be bought. so the wall should be at 2300sats. please don't waste the btc if everyone agrees say I


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: cubydu on August 29, 2014, 08:07:58 PM
https://i.imgur.com/0GUsdY0.png


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: bitcoinwonders010 on August 29, 2014, 08:11:09 PM


guess people thought the premine was stolen by original dev. we never knew you had control of the coins. it would be best to just refund and start a new coin. just go through the history of takeover coins they do not work out.


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: landslide on August 29, 2014, 08:57:09 PM
Of the ICO, 22BTC remains after paying for listing fees, promotion, website, and buy support when market launched. There is also 140k NWO from the buy walls placed in support, that got dumped on. The project manager currently holds all funds. 5 BTC of what remains is being used to hire a new dev to fix the source and maintain the code.



what i am trying to understand who is the project manager that has the 22btc. is that you. you say 5btc remains what has happened to the other 17btc.

This is bullshit, this scammer should return all the 30+ BTCs he received to the c-cex! Return all the money you stole!


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: bitcoinwonders010 on August 29, 2014, 09:00:11 PM
Of the ICO, 22BTC remains after paying for listing fees, promotion, website, and buy support when market launched. There is also 140k NWO from the buy walls placed in support, that got dumped on. The project manager currently holds all funds. 5 BTC of what remains is being used to hire a new dev to fix the source and maintain the code.



what i am trying to understand who is the project manager that has the 22btc. is that you. you say 5btc remains what has happened to the other 17btc.

This is bullshit, this scammer should return all the 30+ BTCs he received to the c-cex! Return all the money you stole!

money is not stolen. the coder did not get the pre-mine. the coder had access to the 200k premine which he dumped. the plan is to either get a dev in place with the btc and 140k coins or i think it would be better to put up a wall at 2300 sats


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: windows88 on August 29, 2014, 09:01:00 PM
Of the ICO, 22BTC remains after paying for listing fees, promotion, website, and buy support when market launched. There is also 140k NWO from the buy walls placed in support, that got dumped on. The project manager currently holds all funds. 5 BTC of what remains is being used to hire a new dev to fix the source and maintain the code.



what i am trying to understand who is the project manager that has the 22btc. is that you. you say 5btc remains what has happened to the other 17btc.

This is bullshit, this scammer should return all the 30+ BTCs he received to the c-cex! Return all the money you stole!

Yes I agree, return all the stolen money to c-cex, so we get our money back.

C-cex what is the purpose of "verified"??


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: windows88 on August 29, 2014, 09:04:18 PM
Of the ICO, 22BTC remains after paying for listing fees, promotion, website, and buy support when market launched. There is also 140k NWO from the buy walls placed in support, that got dumped on. The project manager currently holds all funds. 5 BTC of what remains is being used to hire a new dev to fix the source and maintain the code.



what i am trying to understand who is the project manager that has the 22btc. is that you. you say 5btc remains what has happened to the other 17btc.

This is bullshit, this scammer should return all the 30+ BTCs he received to the c-cex! Return all the money you stole!

money is not stolen. the coder did not get the pre-mine. the coder had access to the 200k premine which he dumped. the plan is to either get a dev in place with the btc and 140k coins or i think it would be better to put up a wall at 2300 sats

wait, why this coin becomes a scam? this is because this scammer guy become greedy and holds all the money he got from C-cex. If he give the code dev his fair share as partner, the code dev won't walk away, and all will be fine.

Now the scammer need return all the money or most money to c-cex so investors will be fairly treated. Why he continue holding the money for his own??


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: fancy2973 on August 29, 2014, 09:25:49 PM
what a scam, return BTCs before explaining!


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: fancy2973 on August 29, 2014, 10:25:20 PM
invested 0.5btc in here i want my coins back nwocrypto said he has 20btc then give us that back. if not i want the ID from c-cex devs for this guy. I can easily post on darknet for a job to be done.

not the way to go, dev has the ipo im sure he will make the right decision
why you try to defend a scammer? isn't that because of his greedy that we are in today's situation?? he holds 30 BTCs from ICO, why he did not return to c-cex thus investors? he still try to keep all the coins for himself and try to blame others? everyone can tell who is the scammer here and who took all the BTCs from ICO. C-cex, please do your work and let everyone know what is your "verified" mean.


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: knightbrown on August 29, 2014, 10:32:18 PM
those who lost money in this scam (myself included) should file a lawsuit against c-cex, they use "verified" to cheat more people. if you do nothing when those "verified" scammers continue to scam, then why do the "verified" process?


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: coinsolidation on August 29, 2014, 10:46:05 PM
5 BTC of what remains is being used to hire a new dev to fix the source and maintain the code.

Fix the source? do you still have the source, and what needs fixed?

I may be willing to fix it, compile and release it properly, and ensure it's safe and running, along with ensuring there was a working block explorer, but I would not be willing to maintain it long term, nor to be associated with the project. It would be a one off job to ensure everything works, and primarily to fund development of my own continued work on Bitmark.


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: bitcoinwonders010 on August 29, 2014, 10:53:27 PM
5 BTC of what remains is being used to hire a new dev to fix the source and maintain the code.

Fix the source? do you still have the source, and what needs fixed?

I may be willing to fix it, compile and release it properly, and ensure it's safe and running, along with ensuring there was a working block explorer, but I would not be willing to maintain it long term, nor to be associated with the project. It would be a one off job to ensure everything works, and primarily to fund development of my own continued work on Bitmark.

yes i spoke with dev he said he has the source for the coin. from what i know he is in talks with a few developers but currently he is working on getting it running again. PM him he should take you up on his offer. i vouch for consolidation  he is talented nothing to worry he can be trusted


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: coinsolidation on August 29, 2014, 10:57:06 PM
Before potentially doing this, I would want to hear that this is what the community wants, working source code and things to proceed.

If you'd rather all just get a refund and forget the coin existed then there is no point in me offering to do this.

Thank you bitcoinwonders010 for the vote of confidence.


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: bitcoinwonders010 on August 29, 2014, 11:01:16 PM
Before potentially doing this, I would want to hear that this is what the community wants, working source code and things to proceed.

If you'd rather all just get a refund and forget the coin existed then there is no point in me offering to do this.

that is what i said as you would really need to pull something good out of the hat for the coin to move again above IPO price but dev says he will work on the coin so people do not lose.


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: zhaohui on August 29, 2014, 11:14:09 PM
who can contact c-cex manager,,, c-cex manager need to say somthing about he ICO money of NWO,,, where the ICO money gone??


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: zhaohui on August 29, 2014, 11:14:54 PM
who can contact c-cex manager,,, c-cex manager need to say somthing about he ICO money of NWO,,, where the ICO money gone??
If c-cex don't say a word ,,means c-cex may still hold the money!


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: zhaohui on August 29, 2014, 11:17:51 PM
who can contact c-cex manager,,, c-cex manager need to say somthing about he ICO money of NWO,,, where the ICO money gone??
If c-cex don't say a word ,,means c-cex may still hold the money!
if c-cex don't say a word and solve the problem,, I will never buy any ICO from c-cex again... get all my coins out from c-cex


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: bitcoinwonders010 on August 29, 2014, 11:18:30 PM
who can contact c-cex manager,,, c-cex manager need to say somthing about he ICO money of NWO,,, where the ICO money gone??
If c-cex don't say a word ,,means c-cex may still hold the money!

nwocrypto has the coins


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: windows88 on August 29, 2014, 11:53:31 PM
who can contact c-cex manager,,, c-cex manager need to say somthing about he ICO money of NWO,,, where the ICO money gone??

That is my question too, why the heck the scammer still hold the money, return it to C-cex!


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: landslide on August 30, 2014, 12:17:33 AM
who can contact c-cex manager,,, c-cex manager need to say somthing about he ICO money of NWO,,, where the ICO money gone??

That is my question too, why the heck the scammer still hold the money, return it to C-cex!

Yes, scammer return the money to c-cex and get out of here!


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: coinsolidation on August 30, 2014, 12:29:42 AM
I have agreed to complete the following work for nwocrypto:

1. code review (already 95% done - nothing hidden)
2. upload to github
3. update checkpoints
4. linux release
5. windows + linux wallets hosted on github
6. block explorer (abe or insight) hosted on nwocrypto's server.

This defines exactly what I've agreed to do, I cannot agree or commit to supporting the project long term, as that would conflict with my work on Bitmark. This is to all extents a one off freelance project.

I will update here once complete.

Warm Regards,

Mark


Title: Re: What happened to NWO? An explanation, and plans for the future
Post by: nWoCrypto on August 30, 2014, 12:36:16 AM
I have agreed to complete the following work for nwocrypto:

1. code review (already 95% done - nothing hidden)
2. upload to github
3. update checkpoints
4. linux release
5. windows + linux wallets hosted on github
6. block explorer (abe or insight) hosted on nwocrypto's server.

This defines exactly what I've agreed to do, I cannot agree or commit to supporting the project long term, as that would conflict with my work on Bitmark. This is to all extents a one off freelance project.

I will update here once complete.

Warm Regards,

Mark

Thanks Mark

NWO back in business, NWO will be bigger and better than ever, stay tuned for the new ann thread fellas

Also for all members feel free to PM me with any concerns