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Title: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: anonymous22 on August 29, 2014, 07:48:30 PM
I saw the seandaniel's "https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=154474" thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=699343.msg8582537#msg8582537 and i saw that he was selling amazon GCs, I decided to buy $200 amazon gcs for $145 in btc and he agreed so i send him the btc and now he is not responding to my msgs.

here are the proofs:

this is the TXID:
https://blockchain.info/tx/152a6a3d8f0520a2bb74ed1411d6f6791b04f15cdd5a570ca19d986c96ff2966

and he sent my btc to this address:
https://blockchain.info/address/1EqHS5EXfTwunmHSVm1nrGXydmmvmCUR1h

and here are the screenshots of his msgs:

http://s7.postimg.org/eris2rvrv/Screenshot_3.png
http://s7.postimg.org/vuljyacgr/Screenshot_1.png


I hope i can get my money back :/


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: anonymous22 on August 29, 2014, 08:01:23 PM
be aware of his another wallet address: 1EqHS5EXfTwunmHSVm1nrGXydmmvmCUR1h


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: justbtcme on August 30, 2014, 12:59:32 AM
He has been in the lending section asking for ever increasing loan amounts and although I do not yet know if he is a for sure scammer, I went ahead and gave him neg until this matter is resolved.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: yeahright on August 30, 2014, 01:00:30 AM
I also purchased a $250 for $200 and he stopped responding to me as well:

http://blockchain.info/tx/e9c2c7d960d7223fad5802bb33f16f4a7a3a484d12cc383fb1150bca7c162b10


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: anonymous22 on August 30, 2014, 01:10:13 AM
I hope he become a real man and come back and refund my money and ''yeahright'' money too, i hope that he did not scam anyone else.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: yeahright on August 30, 2014, 01:20:11 AM
I agree dealt with him before and each time it was a smooth transaction and worked out well.  This time totally different.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: devthedev on August 30, 2014, 01:21:02 AM
Unfortunately, this is a growing problem most likely caused by accounts being sold.
You can see some of my arguments against it here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=760821.msg8590626#msg8590626)


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: yeahright on August 30, 2014, 01:23:52 AM
I agree it's hard to tell now with accounts being sold who to trust.  I enjoyed this community in the beginning but I've been taken a couple of times.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: anonymous22 on August 30, 2014, 01:30:09 AM
I need these mods guys on here ban any account can be sold or logged in with even a diff ip address, why is not this forum controlled well and have a lot of scammers???

And also newbies should not be in the marketplace, this is the reason for a lot of scams happened over here.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: yeahright on August 30, 2014, 01:31:41 AM
I don't know how well different IP address will be.  I login at work, home and on my phone.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: anonymous22 on August 30, 2014, 01:35:33 AM
It can be noticed when the location is changed man , once the country, state or city is changed, it should be banned.
Whatever i need the previous account holder of this seandaniel's acc to be here and solve this problem since he is responsible of all this shit if he really sold his account.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: yeahright on August 30, 2014, 01:40:01 AM
I agree hopefully he didn't sell his account but his BTC address hasn't changed from when he was asking for loans.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: Quickseller on August 30, 2014, 02:08:57 AM
Unfortunately, this is a growing problem most likely caused by accounts being sold.
You can see some of my arguments against it here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=760821.msg8590626#msg8590626)
I think this is an argument against sending money to a complete stranger without using escrow. This person could have just as easily conducted several trades with members of the forum to get the feedback that this person got. I do agree that marketing that an account that you have for sale is marketing your product towards scammers, but even newbie accounts can trade, earn honest feedback and then scam.

EDIT: if the amount that others are risking on a users trust profile is less then what you would be risking by sending first then it is probably best to either use a trusted escrow to have the other person send first, or decline to trade with this person. (also remember that if something sounds like it is too good to be true, then it probably is).


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: xetsr on August 30, 2014, 02:18:29 AM
It can be noticed when the location is changed man , once the country, state or city is changed, it should be banned.
Whatever i need the previous account holder of this seandaniel's acc to be here and solve this problem since he is responsible of all this shit if he really sold his account.

Like how you were responsible when you sold bad starbucks cards and didn't want to refund unless you got refunded?  ::) You did eventually refund those buyers right? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729896.0

Should have used escrow. There is a reason why gift cards are being sold for so cheap lately, either they are carded or seller has no plan on sending anything.

Don't forget the link in his profile to LBC: https://localbitcoins.com/ad/113564/purchase-bitcoin-western-union-philippines - He's online right now, although he might have just used a random LBC ad / profile to gain more trust.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: Justin00 on August 30, 2014, 03:39:59 AM
I hate to be that guy.... but use escrow and it will be 100x harder to get scammed. If seller doesn't want to use escrow then that in its self is not a good sign. I think some escrow people will even do it for free these days.

I agree it's hard to tell now with accounts being sold who to trust.  I enjoyed this community in the beginning but I've been taken a couple of times.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: devthedev on August 30, 2014, 03:50:01 AM
I hate to be that guy.... but use escrow and it will be 100x harder to get scammed. If seller doesn't want to use escrow then that in its self is not a good sign. I think some escrow people will even do it for free these days.

I agree it's hard to tell now with accounts being sold who to trust.  I enjoyed this community in the beginning but I've been taken a couple of times.

Yep, that's the easiest way to prevent yourself from being scammed. I as well as many others, provide escrow services for free so there's no excuse for not using one.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: Gyfts on August 30, 2014, 04:33:10 AM
I can see his account would have been sold. He was asking for many high risk loans. Then he just scams people here.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: haploid23 on August 30, 2014, 07:20:56 AM
I saw this one coming. I was the first to give him loans, but also the first to stop lending to him for too many red flags. Then several other lenders took the opportunity to loan to him once I stopped  ::). Either during or after his second loan with me, he:

1) stacked multiple loans, lied about it.
2) had a loan with BiPolarBob, long overdue, kept quiet about it until someone called him out.
3) started requesting large amounts in quick successions.
4) offered his forum account and LBC account as collateral.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701592.msg8308785#msg8308785
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701592.msg8323803#msg8323803


Yes he had two successful loans with me, but I stopped because of those recent dodgy behaviors, and I got out in time. When someone starts offering their account as collateral or try to sell it, that should be the biggest hint to not deal. It could be dumped any time, or the new owner will scam you.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: jeezy on August 30, 2014, 08:09:08 AM
I saw this one coming. I was the first to give him loans, but also the first to stop lending to him for too many red flags. Then several other lenders took the opportunity to loan to him once I stopped  ::). Either during or after his second loan with me, he:

1) stacked multiple loans, lied about it.
2) had a loan with BiPolarBob, long overdue, kept quiet about it until someone called him out.
3) started requesting large amounts in quick successions.
4) offered his forum account and LBC account as collateral.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701592.msg8308785#msg8308785
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701592.msg8323803#msg8323803


Yes he had two successful loans with me, but I stopped because of those recent dodgy behaviors, and I got out in time. When someone starts offering their account as collateral or try to sell it, that should be the biggest hint to not deal. It could be dumped any time, or the new owner will scam you.

Yeah, had no good feeling about this from the start. Should have listened to my gut I guess. Well, there is still hope he clears things up.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: anonymous22 on August 30, 2014, 03:35:12 PM
I saw this one coming. I was the first to give him loans, but also the first to stop lending to him for too many red flags. Then several other lenders took the opportunity to loan to him once I stopped  ::). Either during or after his second loan with me, he:

1) stacked multiple loans, lied about it.
2) had a loan with BiPolarBob, long overdue, kept quiet about it until someone called him out.
3) started requesting large amounts in quick successions.
4) offered his forum account and LBC account as collateral.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701592.msg8308785#msg8308785
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701592.msg8323803#msg8323803


Yes he had two successful loans with me, but I stopped because of those recent dodgy behaviors, and I got out in time. When someone starts offering their account as collateral or try to sell it, that should be the biggest hint to not deal. It could be dumped any time, or the new owner will scam you.

Yeah, had no good feeling about this from the start. Should have listened to my gut I guess. Well, there is still hope he clears things up.

I hope he come back and says he is sorry for this, he was a good reputable guy before and I hope he still the same.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: williamj2543 on August 30, 2014, 03:41:35 PM
Wow scammed again anonymous22, thats the 2nd time at least. Be more careful!
Anyways his account was probably sold, because with this activity he could be making a lot more per month with signature campaigns, then scamming one person for 150$
If you receive any info that any account was sold, I would leave some feedback, probably positive to not make them look bad, but just to warn people that the account was sold/


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: anonymous22 on August 30, 2014, 04:07:48 PM
Wow scammed again anonymous22, thats the 2nd time at least. Be more careful!
Anyways his account was probably sold, because with this activity he could be making a lot more per month with signature campaigns, then scamming one person for 150$
If you receive any info that any account was sold, I would leave some feedback, probably positive to not make them look bad, but just to warn people that the account was sold/

Thanks man, really this forum should have restricted rules to ban the guys who selling and buying accounts, but i don't think he sold his account as his bitcoin wallet address was the same then he changed it after scamming me.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: yeahright on August 30, 2014, 06:24:21 PM
Yeah I don't think he sold his account either as his BTC address is the same. Hopefully he has an explanation for this but seeing as how he has logged in multiple times since this thread was started and he hasn't replied he's probably gone.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: justbtcme on August 30, 2014, 06:29:09 PM
I suspected this would happen right from the start. Many lenders gave him a loan but I wasn't about to fall for his "i need a medical checkup for my 2-year-old child, here are pictures of him" story.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: anonymous22 on August 30, 2014, 08:27:29 PM
I suspected this would happen right from the start. Many lenders gave him a loan but I wasn't about to fall for his "i need a medical checkup for my 2-year-old child, here are pictures of him" story.

Damn, how could he make a story like this to beg ppl to give him money?!!!


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: zolace on August 30, 2014, 10:40:06 PM
I saw this one coming. I was the first to give him loans, but also the first to stop lending to him for too many red flags. Then several other lenders took the opportunity to loan to him once I stopped  ::). Either during or after his second loan with me, he:

1) stacked multiple loans, lied about it.
2) had a loan with BiPolarBob, long overdue, kept quiet about it until someone called him out.
3) started requesting large amounts in quick successions.
4) offered his forum account and LBC account as collateral.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701592.msg8308785#msg8308785
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701592.msg8323803#msg8323803


Yes he had two successful loans with me, but I stopped because of those recent dodgy behaviors, and I got out in time. When someone starts offering their account as collateral or try to sell it, that should be the biggest hint to not deal. It could be dumped any time, or the new owner will scam you.

Haploid me too, you know what I did though when he got my loan I tricked him, cause I got scared he would have done the same, I told him if he pays me back ill approve him for a .40 loan,  then he requested more, then I knew this guy was just a scam waiting to happen.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: haploid23 on September 01, 2014, 07:19:55 AM
Someone has a picture of seandaniel as a requirement for a loan (think it was justbtcme?). Post it here. When his face and family member's face is out in the open, it'll make him think twice. I know he will see this thread eventually, if not already.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: Tomatocage on September 01, 2014, 07:26:32 AM
Someone has a picture of seandaniel as a requirement for a loan (think it was justbtcme?). Post it here. When his face and family member's face is out in the open, it'll make him think twice. I know he will see this thread eventually, if not already.

I PM'd him about this thread a couple days ago asking him to chime in and give his side of the story, but he mysteriously has lost all interest in the forum.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: Quickseller on September 01, 2014, 07:38:37 AM
Someone has a picture of seandaniel as a requirement for a loan (think it was justbtcme?). Post it here. When his face and family member's face is out in the open, it'll make him think twice. I know he will see this thread eventually, if not already.
I PM'd him about this thread a couple days ago asking him to chime in and give his side of the story, but he mysteriously has lost all interest in the forum.
Either way, a picture of someone is basically the same as getting ID for a loan. It does not carry much weight. Any photo could easily be stolen from someone else. Even if the photo is somehow personalized he could have easily have gotten it from fiver or some other similar website/service. Even if it was actually of him, he could easily deny he was the one who scammed and/or owned the account to both the public (us) and to his family.

I think he probably realized that getting a picture of someone is nothing more then a false sense of security and will do little, if anything to find his identity.


Title: Re: Scammed by seandaniel for $145
Post by: anonymous22 on September 02, 2014, 07:53:07 AM
And i was unlucky to deal with someone who was a good guy before then turned a big scammer on here. Damn