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Title: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: thompete on August 30, 2014, 09:20:38 PM
Some coins host an IPO for a coin, and release the coin, but never use the funds to develop it. Is there anything that can be done for this?
For example. SysCoin did an IPO, but I doubt we will see any developments from them. So can they be legally challenged to refund the money?
Or releasing the coin , frees them from any liability ?


Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: Deviant1 on August 30, 2014, 09:25:27 PM
Some coins host an IPO for a coin, and release the coin, but never use the funds to develop it. Is there anything that can be done for this?
For example. SysCoin did an IPO, but I doubt we will see any developments from them. So can they be legally challenged to refund the money?
Or releasing the coin , frees them from any liability ?


Afraid not. Cryptocurrencies are the wild west (i.e. lawless)


Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: AdamSmith on August 30, 2014, 09:25:46 PM
If the developers are US citizens or residents, you can report them to Fincen and SEC regardless if it is a scam or not.

There are reporting and licensing requirements when issuing IPO or new coins.


Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: thompete on August 30, 2014, 09:27:58 PM
If the developers are US citizens or residents, you can report them to Fincen and SEC regardless if it is a scam or not.

There are reporting and licensing requirements when issuing IPO or new coins.

Yes but I doubt they consider CryptoCurrency under the law. And Once the coins are released, can the devs still be questioned?


Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: origin12 on August 30, 2014, 09:29:38 PM
I heard ethereum had to do their IPO from outside the USA to avoid prosecution for breaking SEC regulations, but everyone knows who runs ethereum. Most of the IPO's here seem to be by anonymous devs.


Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: thompete on August 30, 2014, 09:35:17 PM
Also Fincen Posted this: http://www.coindesk.com/fincen-bitcoin-miners-investors-money-transmitters/
Which says that cryptocurrency investments(IPO's) don not come under the common law.


Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: origin12 on August 30, 2014, 09:36:41 PM
If the developers are US citizens or residents, you can report them to Fincen and SEC regardless if it is a scam or not.

There are reporting and licensing requirements when issuing IPO or new coins.

Yes but I doubt they consider CryptoCurrency under the law. And Once the coins are released, can the devs still be questioned?

A judge's decision allowed SEC to prosecute someone and changed everything.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/08/07/federal-judge-rules-bitcoin-is-real-money/


Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: mymenace on August 30, 2014, 10:03:45 PM
I find this odd that a lot of users here on the forum seem to think giving money to someone you do not know can be a good thing.

It is all risk


Some coins host an IPO for a coin, and release the coin, but never use the funds to develop it. Is there anything that can be done for this?
For example. SysCoin did an IPO, but I doubt we will see any developments from them. So can they be legally challenged to refund the money?
Or releasing the coin , frees them from any liability ?



Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: Dr. Coin on August 30, 2014, 10:12:49 PM
If the developers are US citizens or residents, you can report them to Fincen and SEC regardless if it is a scam or not.

There are reporting and licensing requirements when issuing IPO or new coins.

Yes but I doubt they consider CryptoCurrency under the law. And Once the coins are released, can the devs still be questioned?

A judge's decision allowed SEC to prosecute someone and changed everything.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/08/07/federal-judge-rules-bitcoin-is-real-money/

This article is not related to IPO's. Right now there is no where to truly sue from for these sorts of things. The coins are not even tied up to anything backed by one government, they can be made by some guys in their basement. Not yet are they a true legal entity. Give it 1-2 years and there will be a legal framework for this stuff.


Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: origin12 on August 30, 2014, 10:35:11 PM
This link shows how worried the ethereum team are about trouble from the SEC.

https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/261/possibly-closed-to-u-s-investors


Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: rz20 on August 30, 2014, 11:22:21 PM
Some coins host an IPO for a coin, and release the coin, but never use the funds to develop it. Is there anything that can be done for this?
For example. SysCoin did an IPO, but I doubt we will see any developments from them. So can they be legally challenged to refund the money?
Or releasing the coin , frees them from any liability ?

You can't just do anything for the ipos. Some people I know simply gamble with the coins they get from the IPOs trying to sell the after the coins is pumped and then trashed. In the other side, I have invested just 1 btc in Ethereum just to help them develop the project even if the coins I got are undervalued at least I have helped them to move forward.


Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: iCEBREAKER on August 31, 2014, 12:39:11 AM
This thread has been reported to the Monero Police!   :D

https://i.imgur.com/WgqslHv.jpg


Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: balu2 on August 31, 2014, 03:15:19 AM
the only thing protecting you around here is your own brain. If you can't use it you'll  be RIPPED!

Bought sys-ipo? Have fun with the cap and stickers, idiot ;)


Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: foxkyu on August 31, 2014, 07:28:07 AM
Some coins host an IPO for a coin, and release the coin, but never use the funds to develop it. Is there anything that can be done for this?
For example. SysCoin did an IPO, but I doubt we will see any developments from them. So can they be legally challenged to refund the money?
Or releasing the coin , frees them from any liability ?
Nope
but i hope there is someone or organization can do this
it's very important to keep everyone who want to invest into the new coin
and if something happen, just call them


Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: Amph on August 31, 2014, 07:54:31 AM
impossible, how can you track all that shit, those "ipoer" are using multi proxy vps and other anon forms


Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: Kimowa on August 31, 2014, 07:58:58 AM
Its pretty much impossible to track the scammer/hacker, look at mtgox? How long did they take to track down?


Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: Carey on August 31, 2014, 08:33:58 AM
This thread has been reported to the Monero Police!   :D

https://i.imgur.com/WgqslHv.jpg
woo, sexy girl. i want you.


Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: Carey on August 31, 2014, 08:34:41 AM
there are only scam dev and scam coins   no police. :-\


Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: mymenace on August 31, 2014, 08:57:39 AM
cryptocop reporting for duty


http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/4b/b2/7d/4bb27d69370d64df410ad158afab62dc.jpg




Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: Spoetnik on August 31, 2014, 08:19:56 PM



Contact the user Cryptopaths  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=235006

He is the "Chief of Crypto Police"


~BCX~




LOL i was thinking the same exact thing !


Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: cryptopaths on August 31, 2014, 09:25:07 PM
I am happy to see that my services were recommended to you. Currently I am working on many high profile cases but I am always willing to make some room and help someone out. If you need any help from the department shoot me a message.

Cryptopaths, Chief Of Police of the CPD



Title: Re: Is there any CryptoPolice?
Post by: Spoetnik on September 01, 2014, 02:21:37 AM
I am happy to see that my services were recommended to you. Currently I am working on many high profile cases but I am always willing to make some room and help someone out. If you need any help from the department shoot me a message.

Cryptopaths, Chief Of Police of the CPD



you mean your busy catching up here because you just got back from trolling and spamming here LOL