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Altcoins 2013.. it was a thing.

Like a chart graph it went up and down and i don't think we're going back up
and the one major key reason prices will not go back up is because of the horrendous reputation this Altcoin scene has.
It's simply a joke riddled with thieves and corruption and greedy selfish scammers (and scam supporters) etc
If there is a way for someone to make 1/1 milion'th of a cent and as it damages the Altcoin scene guys will fumble over themselves to do it..
and this is exactly what has happened.

I know many of you (still here) ARE optimistic and some of you have after all this time given up hope ..Hi Krichwins ;)
But in all honesty, i don't see much to look forward to for Altcoins.. The Damage is done !

I said for a year supporting shit coins while turning your backs on legit devs etc would destroy the scene and look around guys..
It's a ghost town and the huge crowd that flooded into Crypto have left long ago.. evidenced by the sharp decline in coin values last few months.
The scene has died and i think it's possibly going to get a lot worse ..maybe soon ?

Don't agree ? You guys all think we're doing great ?
Not too many coins these days are higher than they were a few months back.. they just keep getting lower and lower.

I predicted it every step of the way and explained why and how to stop it and how i didn't think anyone would lift a finger to do anything either.

So here we are..

Optimism huh ? About what ?
What is it you guys think is going to attract a whole new huge crowd of guys ?
I think the kind of guys who think that are being foolish and gullible and are just feeding guys who want to cash out right now.
Your optimism = Crypto-Predator food LOL

So if it's not some big crowd of new guys coming into the Altcoin scene then what is it that will resurrect crypto and create way higher coin values ?

I said early in December 2013 that i was embarrassed for all of you that posted on the Doge coin ANN topic supporting it.
I knew then and now that was the death blow to crypto !
That was the last straw and the highlight of all this scammy greedy corrupt crap.
And i am not sure i can find one single other person that posted what i said either on the Doge coin topic.. i was by myself !

I think it's sad because of what could have been.
Rather than focusing on attracting the Richard Branson's who takes Bitcoin for Virgin Galactic for trips into outer space,
we have Doge idiot bag holders lying about it being better than Bitcoin across the planet acting like greedy, obnoxious, deceitful, pyramid scheme pushers !
And that new crowd you guys think is coming will Google Search it all and see all the guys who lost money on this crap and think.... nope sorry.

And yeah i know plenty about this stuff i coined the name "Altcoin scene"
When i started using it a ton of people use to bitch at me about that and say "it's not a scene"
And all i can say about it now is..

Altcoins 2013 - RIP.. it was a thing.

Just curious...by what measuring stick are you so sure that altcoins are, in fact, down?

Maybe you're just looking at your portfolio?

Monero's just another shitcoin don't kid yourself and drag others into yet another pumped up shitcoin.

Its all up when the real value is 0, right?

There are almost no genuine new things in Crypto. If people were brutally honest only 5 coins are genuinely new coded coins that haven't ripped off something along the way. Anything cloned, based on X Coin or just promises to build something ontop of another coin is bogus.


The problem is information VS ignorance.


All I want now is a wallet which holds primarily Bitcoin, colored coins so I can hold other assets, and Gold, Fiat etc. I'm sick to death of people acting like rabid wankers all over scam coin threads claiming everyone's FUDing when anyone questions their motives or point.

Anime coin, Crypti, Monero etc you can all fuck right off...


This idea that we need themes to coins like when did we ever need one type of money to buy anime or fucking porn?

Ok, the jokes over now, everyone go home.

well am i crazy or do you guys not all see that things look pretty bad right now for ALT's ?
and what is it we should be looking forward to ?
only a new rush of new guys coming in would help us and i don't see them coming.
not when you see all this Altcoins stuff honestly and fairly.

if i am wrong and there is some other form of salvation or new avenue of hope lets hear it.. i'm all ears.

i am sincere and honest here guys.. it just looks genuinely dark and gloomy and it has for ages to me.
For example i have always seen a rebound every 30 days and now for many months that rebound is just simply put, gone !
now every month coin values across the board tank out and stay there and get even lower the next month *over all.

I am skeptical Bitcoin will do much either.. so far it's hovering around $500 for a loooong time.
It always seems to correct back to that estimated value.
It will take a bloody miracle for it to hit $10,000 any time soon and how long will that take ?
If you had your hypothetical investment money in Bitcoin invested in a normal Bank savings account
you would probably make more money than you would having your money tied up in Bitcoin for the next year or three..
TIME IS MONEY!
So how long does it take to make some ? ..this point seems to be chronically ignored / overlooked in Crypto.

And i didn't bring up Bitcoin for no reason either..
It's tied to Altcoins.. i think the only reason Altcoins Took off in value & popularity in OCT/NOV 2013 was because of a side effect of Bitcoin itself getting big.
So for us to want Altcoins to get big again i think we have to have another huge massive surge in interest in Bitcoin.

Anyway thanks for the input i like reading everyone opinions :)
thanks for taking the time to read my word salad ahhha

Bitcoin needs a currency crisis, don't worry it's coming.

monero only offer anon versus bitcoin, nothing else, unless i'm missing something, anon might be added to bitcoin in the future

no need to have other coins really, all those shitcoin was there to increase bitcoin bag holders/dumpers

but mining for real profit was fun, the scammers with ipo/ipco/hidden premine ecc... ruined it

one never know, maybe a new tech could help bitcoin getting anon without hard fork

FTFY.
Well you're right about that. Back in '13, like mid-year and till the end of it, mining was great.
I had so much fun mining the coins that I liked, and taking care of my rigs. I knew that I could at least stay at 0 loss (almost) whatever I decided to mine.
Now the altcoin scene is rubbish. I follow some coins from time to time, but that's it.

Spoetnik is somewhat right here. Altcoins are really no more. Some are even trying to market themselves as Bitcoin 2.0 which is ridiculous since Bitcoin is only at 0.9.2.x.
I do not however agree that faith in Bitcoin is/was lost. The market takes time. You can't expect a spike to occur every few months.

Indeed, mixers, tor, VPN, altcoin exchanges and cash aquisition all help BTC to gain anonymity but that's only accessible and interesting for a small subset of the user base. Unless BTC adds anon / privacy as a base function then it will not gain the same functionality as a coin like Monero.

It is possible, but unrealistic that Bitcoin can hold this role, thus the rational argument for filling the need.

I also think that cryptonote will break through. In fact I can see at least 2 cryptonotes occupying the space that Bitcoin occupies now.

As for Bitcoin, it's hard to believe that so little has been done with $billions in market cap. The whales could have created a huge open-source industry around BTC (like Redhat did with GNU/Linux). Instead we have had pathetic tiny incremental changes (usually forced on them by scandals like 'transaction malleability'). We still have the crappy QT GUI and the shitty JSON i/f. Almost no development towards financial and banking features such as escrow support, security etc.

No I see either a big investment moving into the BTC space or even a growing and well managed dev team from the ALT world that can scale out like Mozilla.

That is true that atlcoin from last 2 months are doing shit. But a lot of ppl understand that many shitcoin are created and after disappear. But they are a lot of alt which are very serious as Britcoin, Vericoin, Razorcoin and others.

There are also very good altcoins out there which are better then bitcoin and have very good development. They are not all pump and dump scams and no, altcoins movement is not dead.

Something I wondered about, and asked you in one of the other threads, but that thread sort of got buried under tons of other threads...

What coins are you currently mining or invested in? I'll take it that you have btc and jackpot coin, but what else?

For the last several months you have basically been all gloom and doom ... sky is falling, solar storms will wipe out cryptos, regulation is needed, and so on. All this time I just assumed you were heavily into btc, expecting if alts crashed, people instead would gravitate towards btc (faulty thinking, but a touch of logic to it).

Many of the coins out there are a complete waste of time. But that's the tricky part, finding what coins may have something unique about them. The market is geared entirely towards short term holding right now, unless a coin has active and constant development. Hold a generic, okay-ish coin from months and months ago, and it'll fall .... and why wouldn't it, unless it somehow gained real world usage or improved its features in relation to the competition?

As for what would possibly improve things .... in my opinion, btc will need to gain more adoption -- major adoption from a decent size company would certainly help -- then increase in price, and then drag some of the alts along with it. That Winklevoss btc fund could also help, although I haven't kept track of where it is right now, or if it's still planned.

+1

The whole "alt-coin" episode of crypto has been a great thing.

It's proven the resilience of Bitcoin in the marketplace against blockchains which supersede it technologically. It's survived a whole flotilla of them without a dent and that's going to go down in its history as an extremely important "rights of passage" phase for Bitcoin.

No serious money is ever going get into cryptos without confidence getting into it first. Seeing off thousands of competing alternatives in the marketplace is about as good as you can get.

After I shut off the gpus I thought I was done with the alts, then I found burst.  Even if it flops mining with a terabyte of hd space didn't cost really anything!  Since I got in early I've already made a couple hundred, somebody make a bitcoin hard drive miner!

your trying to say blah blah is better for Anon reason when no one cares..
as you put it yourself.. only a small subset of investors care about this "anon" crap
because it's a gimmick to latch onto for investment purposes.
In reality no one gives a flying fuck about anon garbage which is why Bitcoin does not have it.. who gives a shit ? i sure as hell don't LOL
Think of your fiat and all the people you know that use Fiat.. how private is that ? it's not.. and no one cares !

Your just making poor excuses that don't hold water.
And i bet it's because your bag holding some Monero Gimmick coin or whatever.. you know one of those Bitcoin Killers that 7 of you care about.

greed.. blind.. the end.

once your a bag holder on "Aids coin" you will lie your ass of in the MIRROR telling your self everything because it's not as stressful as thinking i fucked up.. bad !

Few guys around here can talk honestly about Altcoins with out their Bag Holder Goggles super glued to their faces  ::)
The majority of you are going to get steam rolled financially (if you haven't already).. your not too bright or just way too desperate ?
Or scam pushers lol

a guy started a topic asking what coins will be high in value or something in like 6 months or a year or two etc..
What history teaches us with half a brain is the coins we have now are rapidly making the coins from a few months ago obsolete.
The speed in technology with any computer related tech ramps up fast.
If you think your Monero or NXT is the kitties titties today you think some coin cloner is not going to release a better coin in the next couple years ?
Don't be low hanging fruit Kiddiots LOL
Of course they will ..as they always have !
A new coin will come out and they will flog it hard and spam it and hype it and pump it and nag the fuck out of everyone until
the usual group of gullible bag holders buy in.. then they will do it all over again with BitSharesY/Z, Moner 2.0, NXT "Markets" and NEM Ipo's v2
and your all mostly dumb and fall for the same stupid trick over and over hahaha

I swear to god you people in this scene are dumb + deceitful.. a nasty horrible combo (i have said for a year either almost every guy is dumb or deceitful or BOTH)
The perfect storm of money, idiots and scammers converging on a free for all scam market to exploit the stupid and vulnerable.
Jeez back in the day scammers would want to make Malware / Trojans now they see crypto and think.. kaaaaa-fucking-CHING ! eaaaasy $$$$$$$$$

1) Agreed, only a small subset of current investors care about 'this "anon" crap'. I think it's a fair statement that Bitcoin hasn't yet scratched the surface for things like offshore account, given that the estimates are over $20 trillion, worldwide.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2012/07/23/super-rich-hide-21-trillion-offshore-study-says/

What exactly is going to replace Swiss banking in the coming years?

2) Too much gibberishtalk...no one is going to read your rants.

completely agree. Even people are seeing this yhread as a chance to pump and lie about dhitcoins like Burst etc.

Honestly i wasnt against alt coins. I looked at it as a genuine building of a better bitcoin and trying to pick the couple of winners in that race. Now you cant even see the shit for the good anymore. I wish at least there was a trusted third party that could say this is a shitcoin and this is decent. Everyone is biased. And marketcap doesnt prove a coins quality.

i don't say things with out a specific reason.. so it's not gibberish you just don't understand my point (or you say)

you agree with the "Anon" comment i made but hey that is not what this is about or the Future of what ever banking.
the point is.. Altcoins are a dead scene.. on it's last leg limping along engulfing investors money.
so you side stepped the point entirely.. while i made a point of WARNING people who have the lost a lot of their money invested etc *so far.

people should be extra cautious investing new money into Altcoins right now and some may want to consider getting out.
saying that is not going to help me with my coins and my portfolio value but its the right thing to say and the honest thing to say here.
and that takes precedent over my own selfish greedy needs.
i am still being selfish but i always look at the big picture on things (when others can't or won't)

the toilet needs to finish flushing so we can build it back up again with real investors and decent quality supporters
who are in it for the long haul.. regardless of their personal portfolio value.
Guys who invested in Bitcoin/Litecoin sat back and waited and held through the up's and down's and that is why they made big money.
I hold my coins now and i don't care what their worth.. not worried about it at all really.. well as long as they don't go to 0 LOL

we need to shake out the *excessively greedy.
all of us wanted to make some money but i don't consider all of us "greedy" ..a question of excessive greed or not.

A good example is myself.. i have had opportunities to make some large profits from scam coins by private tip info given in advance
or being invited to premine a coin before a public launch or by taking kick backs etc and i have said NOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!

I have a limit and i stop and i just can't cross that line.. the money is NOT worth it.
And i do think i could get away with stuff and not get caught but that is not the point.. I WOULD KNOW !
i have integrity !
THESE are the type people who need to be held in high regard around here (and there is many of them)
and they have their seats reserved for the Altcoin wave #2 the rebirth i think.
We need to start over fresh with REAL supporters who support the concept of digital currencies..
NOT the concept of digital ponzi scheme tech LOL

Every single word i say here at Bitcointalk is a steal toe boot on the necks of everyone keeping pressure on them permanently to do the right thing !
Why ? because in a selfish way this will benefit me and everyone !
Making a positive scene with quality people and standards and integrity will attract the Richard Branson's into the world to crypto currency tech
and we can then hopefully avoid attracting kids from Reddit to buy into Ponze / Doge Scheme coins with their after school 12 GPU's they bought.

Guys we let greedy irresponsible stupid children take over the Altcoin scene and we are right now suffering the consequences.
They made a big stinky corrupt mess and sold out and ran off.
Doge coin should have went nowhere !
It should have never reached the heights of popularity it did.. that was appalling and the equivalent of taking a fat stinky shit on Bitcoin itself :(

Bitcoin is king until a true contender for its crown arrives and i would like to be able to see it when it comes along
but i can't !
Because the greedy selfish name changing leeches in our scene flooding us with so much scammy clone'y corrupt garbage  ::)
if a truly legit contender is posted here in the ANN section i won't see or hear about it for months probably.
It's not just about market dilution decimating our coin prices.. it's flooding us with so much scams / p&d ponzi's its hard for legit coins to get noticed.
Things are a mess.. it's REALLY bad and i think we're going to get worse price wise before we get a lot better.

Lol.. so this is your problem. Altcoins diluted the crypto market and your precious BTC didn't reached $10,000 as fast as you expected. Then you got butthurt and went full retard. Rest is history. ;D

I think that altcoins are not dead. A few of them have a potential to replace bitcoin. If we look at bitcoin it is not really so good. Slow confirmation times (who will wait 60 min for 6 confirmations when buying sandwich and juice), bad distribution and so on. I will wait what future brings, but for now I have all my "savings" in BTC

Im barely six weeks to this scene (not new to trading btw)

I was attracted by Bitcoin for one simple reason - I despise fiat and its resulting enslavement for all humans.
So I arrived and bought a few Bitcoins. Price going down, fair enough Im use to fluctuating markets.
Then I noticed there were other coins, then I was shocked to see there are hundreds of them. Immediately I thought
thats a major distraction on multiple levels, and essentially diluting the potential power of BTC.

I now see this scene filled with monumental greed, scammery, an abundance of amateurs
from the traders (some of who are barely teenagers) to the devs/programmers who are stupidly deemed by many as benevolent
angels who can do no wrong, Then theres the exchanges, none of which I have much faith in.

i have a couple of small investments in other alt coins but I don't really see them going anywhere. I may continue to buy a few more Bitcoins, but on the other hand I may stick to what I know which is metals. I do want to buy more Bitcoin, but right now I see a stagnant and perhaps failing market across
cryptos. I do hope im wrong.

Those who have no interest in the prime directive of what Bitcoin is supposed to be about, and your all about making a quick financial killing (literally speaking btw) then go and invest in arms manufacturers, specifically tank manufacturers. Rheinmetall would be a good place to start. Some huge orders are about to happen there if the Nato idiots gets their way. I dont need to explain why

One last thing: What concerns me the most is despite all sorts of good news for BTC adoption the price continues to falter.

Anyway, good luck to all  :)

thanks any other stories about magical unicorns you wanna make up ?
it needed more dragons son lol

reality check time kid..

i was on cryptsy chat and this forum since bitcoin was $60 running my mouth as i always do (being held accountable)
and i always said i figured Bitcoin to $10 grand was simply laughable and i highly doubted it would get there any time soon *if at all.

which is why i sold off 75% of all my Bitcoin at about $990 and the rest not long after at a lower price.
I had no belief at any point it was going to 10k and i was more than happy to sell at a thousand dollars a coin.
i think BTC at a grand per coin is waaaaaaay over priced considering most of the world still does not use Bitcoin.

If there was some new ETF regulations as the Legendary"ETF"Vlad has mentioned over the lat year
and it went on stock market portfolio's over night then yeah maybe its proper value is 1k or 10k
but with the usage and user base we have now and what BTC has had going back 6 months i think 1k is on the high side
and i have said that all long in some way or another.

sorry no "Gotchya" for you son lol

The truth hurts so it's best to make up lies about people and try and attack them..
that will shine up your rose colored glass's and make everything look 'perty'  :-*

I don't think that alt-coins have made any serious impact on BTC so far.....and I'm agreeing with most of what Spoetniks posted.
This scene is basically eating it's own arse for a quick profit......we should be looking outwards at the big wide world of mainstream adoption, genuinely useful features, user-friendliness, etc...instead much of the alt-coin scene seems to concentrate on separating n00bs from their wallet contents as quickly as possible.

Just a pity that S can't see how NXT is actually exactly what he's looking for in a crypto-currency, so we're probably doomed to argue it out until the end of time. ;D

@EvilDave you don't think Altcoin have impacted Bitcoin ?
Have you seen Coindesk ? The Altcoin News stories are posted side by side with Bitcoin !
You can't just wish they were separate..

Compare doing a Google search on Bitcoin right now vs what you would have seen a year ago.. how does that look ? LOL

Pretending Altcoins have not taken a fat shit on BTC and damaged it's price + reputation is pure naive and ignorant bullshit !

and i have harped on this point for ages too.. because few people ever agree or even see what i am saying.

All you had to do was look at the height of popularity with "Doge Scheme" coin back when it was big..
when the cheerleaders and bag holders were running across the web spamming every web site they could
with insane retarded lies about how it's waaaaaaay better than bitcoin and it's market cap was almost beating Bitcoin
and how it would overtake Bitcoin in Market cap and price REALLY SOON !!!!!!!1111 'much profits' and 'very' this and 'such' that.. etc etc
and i seen this greedy deceitful idiots barking on weird and random and surprising places that had ZERO to do with crypto too !

where did these mouthy losers go ?

you don't think a lot of people got screwed over on Doge and countless other "Doge Scheme" coins ? and how it was directly linked to Bitcoin itself ?
What is "Doge Scheme" coin worth now ? 0.00000025 ? and way back ?
That is a lot of poor people with empty wallets / Bank Accounts ..having to explain to people who they borrowed money from to invest from etc
And empty wallets suckered on Ponzi schemes is not going to make Bitcoin look good.. wake up guys !
Seriously wake the fuck up !

Stop biting the hand that feeds you Mensa Genius's  ::)

When you support shitcoin's that damage Bitcoin your a self-destructive idiot.
Why ? because your goal is obviously to CASH OUT to --> Bitcoin.. but the act of cashing out scam coins makes BTC worth less over time.. smart ? get it ?
i doubt it ..this is Bitcointalk where guys who run Exchanges defend these "Doge Scheme" coins getting rich while chanting "Free Market" and "User Demand"  ::)
well congrats idiots you fucked it up bad... like i said you would all along.. i told you so !

The whole cryptoscene has been a farce since BTC went on its first pump and then dump, then accounts got hacked, people began to treat it as a commodity, criminal activity ensued, a handful of people controlled the exchange rate, exchanges shamelessly pumped the coin themselves.

There is no dignity in BTC, it is an Albanian Pyramid Scheme, and the little alts in comparison are nowhere near its league in promoting horrible behaviour and greed.

BTC is John Steinbeck's "Pearl" so watch you don't get your head blown off!

Go home kids.. Nothing to see here!


It's all over but for a handful of sorry bagholders.

Yes it's all over again.

Who's gonna be the next Quark? Or the next Nxt? Or the next Darkcoin?

hey what doesn't kill ya ... makes ya yadda yadda.

i know a fat lady and she's not singing ... but the field is tighter.

wanting to launch a new coin ... best of luck ... better to bring something new to the table ... kinda tough since the ETH theme basically means the NXT level is both a network and operating system all wrapped in a blockchain.

but why bother with creating a new network when you can just pump an asset?

Alts are getting dumped like yesterday's garbage.

I told these guys who are responsible for it every step of the way month after month after year..
there *used to be a large crowd here that would try and argue with me by discrediting me and trolling me..
they vanished !
as i said they would..
i even predicted the downfall of Dogecoin and when then posted i told you so when it happened.
all along the whole scene just mouths me off calls me a troll etc

whether people like me or not my predictions have be on the money spot on !
and i warned the scene what they were doing is self destructive.
but they won't listen.. and kept on doing it (shady greedy shallow crap)

a key part of the problem i think is simply, patience !
people are not willing to wait and invest in something legit.. they want profit's and lambo's asap !
this behavior and mentality cause the scene to invest in hollow valueless garbage
and that in turn is support.. support for crap coins.
if you buy them or mine them and sell them etc you ARE supporting them.

NOW ?
We have the legit guys.. which if you look at the post history these are the same guys who argued with me 24/7 for years
now parading around agreeing with me because it's trendy (and because they have no choice they killed the altcoin scene)
these same guys are full of shit and will go back to pumping crap coins as soon as a new big crowd comes here..
Who am i talking about ? the top 10 on CoinmarketCrap.. all bullshit coins except 1 or 2 pretty much.
They all just play the legit angle.. better than not trying but still.. still crap coins.

Did i see even one of you out there agree with me when i had to fight Gliss who runs CoinmarketCrap ?
Sorry but i was on my own.. and an army of cheerleaders came after me calling me a troll etc (the usual routine)
then once again i have the fuckers cornered and they realize i was right and i had them on the ropes publicly
and bam !
CoinmarketCrap now an Asterisk besides coins.
and that is because i personally suggested it and bitched them all out (they were using IPO coins to manipulate the list/markets)

I have *often single handily kicked this entire global scene's ass.

i do something and then things are changed and different forever.
while the rest of you out there were hiding.. making money off anything you could.
NOW ..you all want to play Altcoin Morality Police Hero.
Once you destroyed the altcoin scene and most guys left LOL

I fucking told you so idiots.. you fucked it up and only now in desperation agree with me.
Congrats for ruining a good thing and pissing on the potential.

When i posted on the Doge coin ANN topic is was a cancerous embarrassment (when it was launched)
You guys should have stepped up and agreed with me and avoided it.
What did you all do instead ?

NOW you all bash it like it's normal.. hypocrites all of you.. utterly full of shit !
Go look at the Doge coin ANN topic and find my first comment early on.
and see if even one single guy agreed with me.. you won't find ANYONE !

This crap is dead..
And i sure as hell will not advise anyone i know friends or family or even strangers to get involved in this stupid crap ./period

Are you saying you don't like altcoins?

Altcoins have had a major price increase recently so I don't understand some of these opinions.

Call me what you want but i am right.. always !
Look at my post history like you said guy and you will see all of my predictions were accurate ..end of story.

Don't like my shitcoin sez dev coin cloner.. then your a troll  ::)
how creative did you just make that one up NextGenCrypto ?

And what a nice name too "NextGenCrypto" LOL
So uhh what is a NextGenCrypto ?
Is that a new wave of shit coins parading around masquerading as legit ?
With bag holders playing the long con ?

Let me guess the more convoluted this crap coin is and the more you guys loiter around spamming
the more legit it becomes right ?

But hey if you can't refute any point i made you can always just call me a Troll.

everything on CoinMarketCrap is a clone except Bitcoin itself.
And how many of them had any merit to warrant a launch ?
virtually none.
8,000 coins and i am a Troll ?
are you guys high on drugs ?
brain damaged ?

Dog shit Monero hype  ::)

LOL bullshit.. i laughed my ass off and mocked the hell out of all the guys said 10k was coming..
I said unless it goes on the US stock exchange with strict regulations .. it's not happening.
And back in late 2013 Bitcoin to 10k was being posted on troll Boxes all over 24/7  ..by morons !
While i said that i also said i was cashing out everything i can at 1k per BTC too !
I said the frenzy of bad behavior woudl kill Crypto and take Bitcoin down with it *to some degree.
And i was right.. as ALWAYS !

2016 and look around Shill's..

I TOLD YOU SO !

I think we'll see another big hype and maybe a new BTC bubble around/after the halving. This upsurge in price together with improved awareness and acceptance (in comparison to 2013) will inevitably lead to the next big wave of shitcoins.

Sounds like you dont like altcoins just because you don't like them. 

It kind of weakens your scam accusations though. 

Since you dont like altcoins inherently you'd say anything to discredit them so why should we listen to anything you say.

Youre like the old racist guy in 12 angry men.

Then you fail at English comprehension.

I pontificated an articulate message postulated via a plethora of rather sane entirely valid assertions.

The fact you can not comprehend dumbed down English because the sentence style or length is too much for your ADD disability is a YOU problem.
I know this place is (or was) full of little kids so i try not to use too many big words.

Angry ? How astute of you.. i take it you picked up on that by my choice in "Angry" Font ?

If the concept of having a mature analytical discussion of the Altcoin scene in the Altcoin section scares you ?
Then maybe just pass the topic by and fire up an episode of Teletubby's and grab a bowl of cereal.
I am not here to baby sit little children..

Good luck on life.. thinking anyone that says something you don't like is just a "Troll"
Let me know how that works out for ya.

Interesting point for sure and i have not given that any thought or even heard about that until a week ago max..
An indicator right there that it means far less than you want it to mean (or we would have been hearing it a lot for ages)

"and maybe a new BTC bubble around/after the halving."
To some extent i'd say that sounds fair enough..
I think we may some some moderate price increases but as always it will just settle back down again.
The halving is not new.. people knew the total supply etc loooong ago.
We also have seen a lot of halving's on Altcoins that made no difference in value.
You sound mighty optimistic LOL

"improved awareness and acceptance"
I just don't see that.. sorry.

Next big wave ?
I doubt that.
People have been claiming that for years around here in turn admitting the last wave ended while arguing it didn't ROFL
A massive contradiction for one thing hahahha

History will not repeat.. it's just not possible !
We have thousands of coins and a long line of Altcoin players that got burned and closed exchanges etc.
History has been established.
That history was different when the only wave happened way back in 2013.

You guys can keep thinking some big wave of new guys is coming but i wouldn't hold your breath..
There is simply no logical and good reason for this to occur given the history and context of the situation.
I could post 100 reasons why but i will give just one now..

Public investors are not as dumb as you all think.
They will Google "Altcoin" the only thing they will read is "there was 1,000's of shit coins made"
Then they will see it got popular in 2013 and more coins came out the more popular it got..
Then it all died off.. AKA: The history.
SO they know damn well there is ALREADY too many and if more people come cloning shit coins etc will ramp up hard !
And i hate to break it you guys but ALL your coins here are shit coins.
You all got caught pushing shit coins for ages and realized oh fuck we better try and make on last one and "long con" it !
Just because you shill some shit coin for 1,000 days does not make it legit.. cough cough Monero etc.
So..
Why in the hell would a respected investor come to throw money into the shit coin pit ?
And non-investors ? not happening.. Bitcoin itself is in severe decline ever since late 2013.. going in reverse !
Never mind Altcoins.. so no .. a crowd is not coming to use them as a currency -OR- investment.

What you see is what yo get boys.
You made your bed now sleep in it.

Actually, I think it's YOU who needs to let ME know how it turns out for YOU.


Since you are mad as a hatter.

BTC and LTC will rise. Others are dead. Even when those become more valuable, other alts are still dead.
They were used mainly by scammers to steal money from noobs. They are completely dead.  :)

I know i still have a few coins delisted all over and more to come soon LOL
Anyone wanna buy some Jackpotcoins ? ROFL

The HAT is ANGRY !!111ONE

Spoeterman Spoeterman, does what an Spoeter can, Spoeterman.

Makes an altcoin, any premine.
Catches pumps - just like flies.
Look out! Here comes the Spoeterman.

Should i go check what wonderful coins you all have been supporting ?

Altcoins really did die when i said it did !

What we see now is nothing but "ICO Coins" ..not "Altcoins"

Think about it.. the popularity of POW mined coins etc has been decimated.
I was right !

Exchange Vol
$191.60m

Bitcoin
$113.02m

Altcoins
$78.57m

Dom Index
59.0%

[RIP] Altcoins - "It was a thing"

And adoption has died !

2013 my country Canada had the first ATM in Vancouver.
After the 2nd one was in my town.. Kelowna.
It was shut down 2 years ago dumb fucks.. GONE !

Adoption has gone in reverse and i have been told for a year or two by people on the street.
"Oh that Bitcoin thing is still going ?"
They tell me they thought it was all over with.

As ALWAYS you twats here have your heads jammed up your ass !

I don't think you idiots possess the ability to see reality at all.

What the fuck did i just say ? ICO's
Those are scams not.. currencies.
And THAT is your manipulated exchange bullshit stats pal..

What has Altcoins done since 2013 ?
Not a fucking god damn thing.

oh sorry.
You all did one thing.. you all made 6,000 ANN topics here.
Then traded them on exchanges for profit then chanted ohhhh Altcoins (ICO's) are doing great.
Sure..
If your master plan was to evolve crypto to produce more shitcoins faster and make them more scammy
and then trade them on centralized exchanges as they take turns dropping like flies with ONE BILLION STOLEN FROM US ? Then congrats well played guys !

You are all retards.
You REALLY are and sadly you don't see it.. like brain damaged delusional little profiteer kidiots.

every heard of ADOPTION idiots ?

..enjoy your delusional little ICO scam circle jerk for profit guys.

OP, this is an alt you should get behind.

Project aim - pay people to run full bitcoin nodes and also generate payments for miners to increase mining decentrlization.

No instamines. No ICO's. No Premines. Just hard bloody work to underpin the future of Bitcoin.

Spreadcoin will be adding support for hosting Bitcoin full nodes and then paying people to run them.

First step to add support for Bitcoin is nearly complete:

https://i.imgur.com/hYEbi90.png

https://i.imgur.com/z2WALsO.png

Next stages will be to create an internal decentralized exchange so that people can get paid in BTC to run full bitocin nodes; and also the launch of Servicenodes which will allow anyone to run a full Bitcoin node while being paid.

The falling numbers of full Bitcoin nodes will continue as the Bitcoin blockchain increases in size towards 1TB over the next 5 years, so paying people to run them will be a logical next step to ensure numbers increase and not decrease risking centralization of mining (already happened) and full nodes which serve data to SPV on mobiles.

Give it your support, as a healthy Bitcoin network will help everyone in crypto.

Some of the people that helped form DASH are now behind Spreadcoin.  If DASH can reach $100m and it wants to compete with Bitcoin, imagine a coin that actually supports Bitcoin - that's a $100m - $200m coin right there.

I dont think ethereum is dead. It's still going on.

At this point i dont think ethereum will ever die.

1 million cubicles with 1 million idiots with their ears covered barking away nonsense.

THAT is crypto !

Pretty sure i pointed out the obvious on this topic and countless others.
And that is ?
Coins don't Actually die..
They simply toil in unpopularity and occasionally get delisted.
Even if a coin gets delisted there is often people with the block chain saved etc
So it can actually be resurrected from the dead.
It does not take much to get them going again.
Hell many devs have deliberately let their coins die off simply so they can buy them dirt cheap
then parade them around again later hyping them up.. to dump them.. again.

You all play stupid.. what i just said is common knowledge and very obvious.
Yet you still play stupid and fire off the same stupid fucktard retorts like a broken record.
Like two guys talking barking at each other covering their ears.
Nothing but a battle where one guy says something smart (me)
And the others try and drown him in stupid snappy short blatantly stupid comments.

For example i say Ethereum is a scam and i provide a huge amount of technical reasons why.
8 people in a row show up to say no.. i disagree.. your wrong.. ..i think it's great.. and so on..
Hollow shill retardery

This scene is a putrid, vile, vulgar & horrendous display of greed, stupidity and obnoxious blatant scamtardery.

You all have loitered around here to out post count me with puppet / sock accounts for years..
It's your shitcoin / profit defense mechanism.
I use 1 account and say XYZ sucks.. it's scammy !
8 shit head noob accounts show up to bark no.. noo...nooope and noooo.. then no... then nooo then noooo
All by faceless nobody losers here with out an ounce of credibility.

How the hell is that working out for ya ?  ;D
What ?
You did not figure out i am more than happy to sit here and reply back to the same cliched Crypto dipshit scam coin defense retorts year after year hundreds if not thousands of times like a broken record ?

No problem.. i will do this for the next decade scammy little fucking assholes.

War of attrition ?
I am bullet proof.
I am the most obsessive.. although i prefer calculating, determined and outright diabolical  8)
It harks back to me years of being a "cracker"..
The stronger the protection is on my target the more determined i get to PWN the shit out of it.
And i never failed before so i ain't gonna start now  8)
An old cracking vet said "if it runs it can be cracked" ..he's right !

Scammers and misc deceitful prefatory greedy little pieces of scammy shit your ass is mine.
I will tap on your front door with 1 finger lightly until i break a hole through in a few decades.

PS:
Go back to your other accounts stoat .. ETH is a "dead" scammy ICO !
Dead as in dead as they get.

Dead must be quantified by how popular it was previously.
Take Doge.. if it's rise was minor before it would have ended up simply delisted.
But since it was popular way back we have users buying them cheap simply to hope there is a random pump etc.

AND YOU ALL KNOW IT

That is our only usable and realistic definition of "DEAD"

You all know what a dead coin means and looks like ..you just play dumb and post bullshit comments about it.
Again & again and again.. always by shithead sock accounts.
Out of greed and desperation like pathetic losers.
Think anyone is buying your scammy ass deceitful shill bullshit dipshitery kidiot profiteers ?  :D

Obvious Shill is Obvious  ::)

And why did YOU vanish after the hype of Ethereum early 2016 ?
Were you only paid to spam this place for a short time ?
You are a part of the problem here..

What have we seen since September 1st 2014 guys ?
It's now all about ICO's and more and more of them.. non stop.

Has this Altcoin stuff improved ?
Has there been a huge influx of new users ? hell no  ::)
..told ya  ;D