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No more new altcoins please think in the planet. Think in Global Warming,stop of launch new coins. We have enough,Peoples be smart,peoples all miners,pools,forums,exchanges,foundations,traders,devs, somebody could give a date like to  October 1 st to don´t support new coins in history of crypto so if some launch a coin after this date nobody will suport this, of this way scam will be avoid too, and cryptos launched before that date,will be in a race to give better services and raising in value.    

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We reach Zero Hour!!!! October 1st 2014...............For new readers it is date to invite to everybody to support only altcoins on existence before of this date besides of BTC of course, each one could make a list of  "favourites coins"  such as was suggested in this thread for other member and peoples interested please feel free on "Sign The Pledge" such as was suggested by another member here.

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Final List of coins to be supported for community:"Recommended & Trust Coins"  :    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=770475.msg8687333#msg8687333
  


*After October 1 st 2014  will be announced a day to ask to community shutdown all miners equipment for a day whole to reduce Global Warming-Pools please advice if you want join to these cause,is only a day-.

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The only alt coins that may have a chance to become a possible contender to Bitcoin would be a new alt that is actually much better than Bitcoin and uses this method for its initial coin distribution:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563925.0

In this post Peter may have singlehandedly killed off all past, current and future alts that do not use this method of initial coin distribution, including  Ethereum.  He is my new hero!

His post also has the potential of eliminating almost all of the incentive to make new alts for the "pump and dump of it" and reducing the entire alt space to serious condenders only.

If you want to know if any alt is going to succeed just ask these two questions:

    1) Is it better than Bitcoin in a market defining way?

    2) Does it implement the method of initial coin distribution suggested in that thread?

If the answer is yes to both questions then it has a chance of becoming something.

So, I would support a modified proposal:

interesting opinion,  Community must decide what is better choice .........   we need more voices here........
If someone have a better idea, please feel free of change post, somebody with better abbilities that me to comunicate.

if community is agree with a date, somebody must create a countdown..........

Really overheating is a serious thing.

There will be new coin so long as people still buying them.

Better to convince investor not to buy than asking developer not to launch new coin.

I'm posting a link to some  important altcoin nowadays to support this, everybody could make same  

I only invest in coins that have something new to offer.  That's all I've ever done.  Why was anyone else ever doing anything different?  Please explain it to me.

Apparently people were just buying any old clonecoin shit for no reason, and then crying on Twitter about how they lost money?  And then later spamming newer coins on Twitter/BCT with "We need Proof of DEV on this" and "Where is the PoD" and "PoD is almost a must these days."?  Good luck to devs defending against copyright/patent claims, or explaining to the FBI why they've been making 'money laundering machines', or explaining to employers about how they need exemption from the contract clauses that say that everything they make is property of their employer.

I've made some mistakes buying coins that don't have good plans for funding ongoing development (or attracting other devs who will work on the coin because it's an interesting project or what it represents), or that didn't seem to have experienced devs.  I plan to limit my exposure to such coins in future.

Let's not end up with a regulated market here.  Most of us can't afford lawyers and accountants, and have no serious leverage over employers.

I agree that we don't need any new altcoins, but effectively it doesn't matter: There wont be any additional heat created since the hash rate for the new coins will most likely already be used for some other coin already. It's merely diluting.

I feel like we are getting over this problem already. Most coins on the first page of coinmarketcap have been here for atleast 4 months. But i heat those shit coins with shit names that have done nothing. Coins with a 18 yo dev that was playing around with some coding.
The first coin i invested in was bitcoin, the second was mastercoin and quarkcoin. Since that, i only invest in coins with an ACTIVE dev that has already PROVEN that he can donstuff and that he can create and implement new ideas.
Call it, proof of original executed ideas by devs leading un pre-mined coins.

it is correct we don´t need new altcoins but about second part it could be discussed because yet for example are launched  scrypt,sha-256 with high consume of energy maybe somebody could make some calculations about Consumed Energy number peoples mining * number altcoins*  time prom+ wallets sync time+++++++ is could be a lot of MKwatts.

cant stop people making alts, they already showing themselves to be worthless long term

Very true, it is killing to altcoins too, prices drop each day, so many altcoins, it must stop, there is enough to play game,forums must help deleting
fail coins with agree community,exchanges dont accept new altcoins after 1 October 2014, miners dont must supports a new altcoin, etc........
now it is a caos, exchanges closed, coins are listed a week only, devs bailed, etc,etc..... Someone make a new list with altcoins survived until today and keep mining it until finished or re-change codes to  less time of mining, change all a POS, and make better services........

Maybe just promote the coins early adopters, like us, think are the best and the most promising atm.
This way they will get good attention leaving the silly shitters with low volume and low marketcap.

My main coin now is Karmacoin, why?
It has a very active dev, the team behind him does good work. They hire and pay people to sort out legal stuff or for instance the change to x11 which was as smooth as a baby face. They actively develop very interesting projects, like lill.com which is ansearch engined focused on paying the income it generates by ads from websites to the people who visit the website. Or the karmashares llc, which pays its proffits to the people who own karmashares ( lill.com is a project of karmashares which received a 2+ million dollar offer but it was eventually not signed by the dev because one the contract said he would also have to work a half year for the company which would leave him no time developing karma further.
So they got all of this going

What is your coin?
Promote it! :)

Just stay away from those coins.

You can not control what people will or will not do.

To be honest crypto and all electronic equipments have this disvantage, all generate heat,just think millions of computers turn on all day+Tvs,etc...........It can`t make sense to someone but just think we forget common things by technology.I only see a planet and is it Earth we dont have other, we can survive in other maybe be, but we are changing a paradise for an infernus, it make a sense now.

Yeah, but that number doesn't necessarily go up with every new altcoin that's being invented. If there's a new coin, people have to mine it, develop it, etc. Where do those people come from? The whole system will fall apart under its own weight at some point!

Most coins won't last longer to have enough hash power to be a serious waste of energy.

Let the alts be created, sooner or later people will learn with all the scams and will stop acting dumb.

Please make annoucements in others forums to give this message, it is important.More voices are needed here, exchanges,pools,miners,everybody,some students of sciences of the earth,mathematics,physics,give you point of view please.

I strongly agree but, I would propose a voting system.
I am not saying stop making new coins but devs should announce their coins and only if the community decides through voting they will be launched.
e.g. if they get more than 500 or 1000 positive votes.

This way all sh!t coins will not be launched.

It would also be nice if there was another voting system to terminate existing sh!t coins or coins with too low trading volume.

You are basically asking for the Crypto currency community to stop progress on development of future improvements.  This is impractical.  Not to mention that there are other means of developing coins that don't require PoW mining.  eg: NXT can easily stake on a solar powered Raspberry Pi. 
Perhaps alter your request to be more focused on the power consumption and less on the stoppage of all progress through continued development.

I'd prefer to see Facebook shut down.  ;D  That would have a much bigger impact on both energy consumption, worker productivity, and human interactions, etc.

Good luck there bub.  you and spotniek need 2 team up  :-*

Do you like it when school boys launch coins, people mine them, invest in them and then kids disappear with some BTC?
Well, I don't.

I recommend you also read about BTCD. ;)

it is true, karmacoin is a good project,good community,BTCD is a project interesting with a brilliant coder, but only are a few good coins and unfortunately there is a lot of alts  where peoples lost time and money, and dont mention about ambiental impact, I dont have information about how many alts were launched until today,Some dev bailed in one day,two days, a week,a month,etc......  lost of money can be accepted until certain limit,nobody put a gun in your head to buy altcoins,but heat generated is in someplace here keep invisible hurting species of way irreversible, I think that if dont stop  launch new altcoins,then each one his value will be each  less in time, everybody think that his altcoin will reach value of BTC, but it is not so, because at first BTC raised because dont have comptetitors,now all days it is losting value, LTC for example is
decreasing its value each day,darkcoin,etc and it are wasn´t scamcoin. So it is a good opportunity for change things, we dont need a kind of progress to buy and sell things for only vanity,feeling power, so nobody can say us  do yo want stop progress? come on guys it is not progress on anyway.
  So somebody give a good reason to continue launching new altcoincoins,a better code?  :D  scrypts,sha-256,scrypt jane,x11,x13,x14,x15,fresh,
and there is long list so, so nobody say nothing, tomorrow will be launched Karmadark,Minerals Dark,  x64,65,66 algos, I dont see any progess here
because there isn´t limit, remember mathematics some thing are infinites like to ideas.Human race need a rest to think,fiat have centurys of years,
peoples buy and sell with it, so crypto need to test that it work, but now it dont work yet, because is full of scam,peoples lost his earnings in a second, it is not good,

so I question: are new coins and  algos needed really?   we need to wait another 10 years or less to value BTC reach 0. If crypto is accepted in all word, think in billions of peoples with computers turn on to keep staking 5 coins for a reward of o.ooooooox.

We need statistics here to show what could occurs. For now Stop to launch new coins and new algos.There is enough to keep playing this game.
is time of fix all this caos.We need reasons to spend less time in computers,tablets,cels,but it simply dont happens, a balance is needed here.

You can't stop progress.....let the people decide what they will support.......you always need something for newbies too have a go at, once they get involved they soon realize that there are plenty of shit coins

and that most if not all will leave your wallet empty. Old heads will steer clear and look for new and improved tech. There is a learning cure for everybody, and nothing enforces the lesson like losing money.

It doesn't matter what attracts new players to crypto as long as it gets attention, most of the world have no idea about any of this. Besides new alts provide trading opportunities for fun and profit  8)

Right symply I dont see any progress in clones of coins used to scam peoples, I will  give you a example, please visit SHIBEcoin , how it coin there is 200 or more,it was used today to scam like to 10 BTC for a group of pumpers, his values is 4 or 5 sat since launch today was pumped to 50 sat and less of 1/2 min drop 5 sat and after 4 sat, do you think that peoples that lost 90% of his investment in it, it is not fair, this is same shit of banks,
there is not any progress here,I only see progress in a few coins that have innovation, but there is a lot of scams coins.Make this calculation 10 coins launched for week * 52 days equal to 520 coins for year if it dont stop................


So what do you need new coins for? only for trade this a week? I'm agree about newbies need to have a go at,but there is enough coins to play.

OP doesn't really make any sense.
Shit coins should fail on their own.

sense is about of overheating,heats disiped to mined it and sync wallets,trade it, invest in it, pools,sites*number of scamcoins*,etc    now you can found a sense now.

EDIT: isn´t neccesary open a lot of universites or colleges to improvement education, same is crypto.Watch happened to auroracoin,probems of NYcoin it wasnot scamcoins however failed, watch 42 coin, but hundred of another coins were scamcoins  how many more coins do you need to probe this?

I only said October 1th 2014 to do this,  community is the unique to can decide about this,if it idea is accepted date can be changed.

We shouldn't stop adapting new coins after a certain time cause revolution can happen anytime. Any new coin with new features can launch even after the date. What we rather need to do is to avoid all those minable coin where only Devs makes profit.

think for example in facebook, his value is very big, but if you begin coding facebook-a,facebook-b,facebook-matrix or weathever thing soon marketcap will be divided in so many platforms how do you create its, competition is good, but with certain limits,so is industry too, airlines for example just think caos if we could to have choice beetwen 500 or more airlines, simply it dont work and dont make sense,Im agree in developments,
improvements,etc,  but it must be done about previous bases for example karmacoin changed code to x11  -->  +1, BTCD have projects interesting such as supernetwork and teleport,karma look good concept,Captcoin have innovations and very participative dev,BTC is more trust until now,Dogecoin a coin fun,and a couple of coins more are really goods, but all it things can be added or joined in some 10 or 15 and found improvements and launch it each year at least, you dont need are downloading wallets each day or week.It is a way of fix this disaster
happen same with pools, 50 percent of pools dont work, they have problem because wallets dont sync, ports are closed,dev bailed at launch,
exchanges have problems with premined coins, stuck wallets, it is a big hole of crypto, and scammers use it for his profits.If you buy a miner equipment it only help you only a month because hashrate increase day by day and rewards to middle so you need dump while coin have value, if you are lucky until 1 sat if not it is deslisted only see long list of coins deslisted.Almost forget exchanges, all days appear new exchanges, do you think that are trusted? if MT-GOX with better reputation failed,I remember cryptorush all counts were closes until today, so believe me It is a serious problem to crypto.

http://environment.about.com/od/globalwarming/tp/globalwarmtips.htm

http://worldviewofglobalwarming.org/

You forgot to call people to hodl. Really, dude, people will launch coins for quick buck, miners will mine it for a chance to instamine and dump, exchanges will still list these coins for a chance to get fees. Morons will buy coins in first minutes on exchange for 100x higher price. Life.

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         It is a good oportunity for change a litltle things,but one thing is sure, each time less peoples will support new coins, idea is support only coins before of countdown.

CountDown: 27 Days to stop support new coins.     ZERO HOUR[/size]

I don't think that would work. Accoridng to the aethereum thread, "The initial distribution of coins in æthereum is different.  If you are a bitcoin user, you can use your bitcoin private keys to claim a percentage of æther exactly equal to the percentage of the bitcoin market cap you controlled at the time of nucleus creation.  This claiming process is trustless and decentralized and doesn't cost you anything. "

That means that people who control extremely large amounts of Bitcoin will get extremely large amounts of aethereum without having to do anything(mine, stake), which will be very very unfair....

But... but I'm launching a coin Oct. 2  called "October 2nd coin." 

well, you could launch this Oct 1th

The more altcoins the more adoption and marketing for BTC. Not bad. Good coins will grow, bad coins will leave the scene, it's not all that dramatic. They will enhance the technology. As an investor/trader you should just do more extended research before getting involved.

Actually  471 coins are listed in marketcap, I think that aproximately we have more that 1000 anothers , they are enough to learn,trade,mine,improvement,etc........  

We need more stadistics of market.

EDIT:  Exchanges have a limit of coins that they can support, and to traders is more easy choose beetween <100 that >100 markets for example............., it idea benefits exchanges too.

Devs are not obliged to stick around, generally speaking.  Why were you investing in a project that's so uninteresting that it can't attract more devs?

"how it coin there is 200 or more" - What does this mean?  I can't understand you.


You tell me - Why were you investing in clonecoins?  I have only ever invested in coins that have something new to offer.  I see a lot of innovation out there still but don't have enough money to invest in everything I would like.

"Newbies need to have go at" -- What does this mean?

http://www.dustcoin.com/         See how prices old coins are droping, they are diying and soon all coins loose value BTC too.And peoples are
                                             spending in new miners each days only to use this 15 or 30 days because coins lost value each day.....

First question I mean that there is a plenty of coins like to SHIBE
second question I mean Newbies need learn and play with new things, and peoples invest in clonecoin because are all clone of BTC of certain way,
only have improvements, it is good I think, but with a limited number,like to anothers services in real world or even Internet,Do you need more services to facebook like? may be yes or not, but if your answer is yes you only need one or two only.

"no more new altcoins please think in the planet"

Sentences in English begin with capital letters and end with a punctuation mark such as a full stop.  There seem to be two sentences here yet no capital letters or punctuation.

Please think of the planet.


"think in overheating"

Think of overheating?  Global warming, you mean?


"overheating.Stop of launch new coins"

One or two spaces are needed after a full stop.

'Stop of launch'?  Stop launching, you mean.


"Peoples be smart"

Who wrote this, Jar Jar Binks?


I could go on.  You're asking us all to voluntarily shut down an emerging new industry, and you couldn't even be bothered to write a halfway-decent post about it?

How about you stop investing in shitcoins without demanding that everyone else join you?  I managed to do it without shutting down an industry so I don't see why you can't.  I don't trust you and your friends to decide for me what is and isn't a shitcoin though.

Thanks for your corrections, I will try of change this, is not easy be good in a second language,about try of kill an industry, nobody want this,
but industry dont can kill to environment either,You say that dont trust me it is ok, I'm not  asking money or donations ayway it is only idea to begin to fix some thing in crypto, I'm not very good comunicating so it idea work, anybody else can continue  it, Even if altcoins stop of be launched you have coins to keep mining, BTC,LTC,Karma,WordCoin,and 1000 coins more, Do you know AdityCoin?, it have supply forever.............

Personally I don't think your idea is good. I always like revolutions. And stopping revolution means creating a separated environment in this case it'll be only for old and experienced or probably wealthy guys to head over into Crypto currency by putting new comers aside means less participation which will lead all Crypto currencies to the less adoption which is not so good cause less adoption is equal to more likely useless. And our Crypto currency world will be limited which we don't want actually that's why this forum even still have a separate section for altcoin. And if for global warming you want us to stop adapting new coins then I'll suggest you to research more we already have some algos for energy efficiency and less heating, btw peoples are still mining Bitcoin and it'll continue like this and there are many other major reasons behind global warming so I urge you to research a bit more about that if you're really careful about it. Last but not the least no one can stop revolution, new things will always come in place of old that's how things on this world goes and nothing can stop it.

Propably not, Probably yes, community will decide finally,but one thing is sure, Revolution is a word very complex,Everybody knows that peoples spend hours and hours in front of computers,tablets,smartphones,etc,,, it is not healthy, so  Internet must help to make easy things, dont more complex like crypto, BTC begin revolution, but  unfortunately everybody begun to clone again again and again an it was  used by scamers until today,
please let me speak about other context, Global Warming is not a game, do you want a planet to Marth like? Burned?  I know that Sunflares affect
earth, but I dont need be a scientific to know that human interaction affect too, thousands or millions  of PC's turn on 24 hours to day, it simply
wasn´t in past, so we need some calculations about disiped heat in it, is like to peoples think in waste water because is there a lot in ocean, it is
absurd.
     Now speaking again of crypto about adoption massive or less or more adoption, you dont need more coins to do this.......
even BTC faucets give hundred of Sat all days,anothers alcoins do too,think in all coins of free distribution.If you stop new coins you are not stopping revolution you are stopping only scam and anothers kind of problems.It will do crypto more easy, if you have less coins, trust exchanges,
trust pools,etc,etc, if you keep it without control you will have more and more scam such as now.
     

Why stop the profit trains, if bitcoin cared about bitcoin, it would develop a demand for it, you think BTC developers care about you? about us? no they dont even care about their own coin, alt coins are following the example they have been led by, BTC developed, pumped and basically stopped there, just like every alt coin. We as humans are led by example. the person who will succeed is the coin that is developed better than all the others, dont stop the trains because I am happy riding the profit trains till that team emerges.

Don't see the point of this thread, there is NO way this is all gonna stop on Oct 1st lol!

All this talk of "newbies" is kind of funny.....with Bitcoin only being 5 years old, aren't we ALL newbies:-)

If it work, may be will do that you keep you profits, because without scamcoins more peoples can invest and it will have more value at you coins,
just think market cap raising in trust coins.Just now is the opposite all coins are losting his value until BTC........think for example if you win 100BTC
trading and hold it, but if BTC keep dropping to reach 5 usd again, you finally lost.

Really?   soon new ideas appears here like to delete scamcoins of forums to make  more easy for read true post, and make good choices to invest and mine it.Without new scam coins, will be more easy make a lot of improvements with less time.

Don't get me wrong bud, I too think the scam coins NEED to be killed and stopped from being launched everyday!  I just don't think every new coin is a scam and I certainly don't think developers, new or old, will stop releasing new coins because your thread here says it's so.

I couldn't disagree more.

This is a horrible idea. We need GOOD new coins to keep coming out.

There is another thread calling out and letting people know which coins are scams. That is a much better idea

Your Stop The Show idea... is.... dumb.. sorry

Dont worried about that, all is ok, each one will take his own choose, really I see a lot of coins that we can mine for a very long time years maybe,
so there is not a good reason for new launches, about massive adoption it is happen now with faucets, but all coins are losting his value,peoples need understand whats going on?. crypto need trust only so it can work, crypto is getting to network social there is not place to scam there,
so there is not long time to change,we have a plenty of coins,time is enough to pools add coins already established and avoid new coins,maybe some coins can re-born,many peoples hold wallets with coins wich value is zero.Think in car industry engineers make a new model and release it each year
not each day or week,same must be in crypto, do you think that Foundation BTC release improvements each week?, besides for example we have Dogecoin, WhiteDogecoin, after BlackDogecoin who is next DalmataDogecoin?  think for example in Litecoin and old altcoins they were improvements
to use CPUS and GPUS but each day it loose value, it is not fair.I understand clearly that altcoins are and opportunity to adoption massive, and make some of profits in exchanges, then if you are a good traders then you will not have problems with less coins,if you are not good trader hold you coins thinking in a log time but it can happens only if there is a true market,Just think peoples holding hundred of coins,wallet sync for years and years
hoping something that never will happen, is better make a stop, and re-valuate way of how things happens,with less coins peoples will be more
happy and getting more profits.Many coins can be mined now with a low difficult yet, so why keep launching coins? is better that we study market now each coin,big minners could be more generous with faucets to spread the world,pools must check that is working,exchanges can give bonus extras,make ways of trust investment like karmashares does.

I could stop idea if community want it, but if not is must  continue,you said We need GOOD new coins to keep coming out,
unfortunately statistics are not good, in fact, good coins are a few,so it is not a good reason to avoid stop coins October 1th.A thing is true,
scam must stop now,I remember weeks and weeks plenty of scam coins,long list of deslisted coins, its not funny when peoples lost
his investment of this way.We need statistics about coins in market and another coins that are alive yet.

Think for example in wikipedia, we dont need 1000 differents versions about it to search and retrieve  information.

do you see? Ebola coin announced just now 2th September,only see prices of ICO 10,000 sat,scrypt,premine 1m,   it are 100BTC.  :D

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stop would be impossible but we could sign some treaties to stop making alts in Sep for the remembrance of Hal Finney

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interesting.......

Yes community has already decided it pal. And man Revolution isn't that complex. We're living in the world of machines and just because of the Revolution we've achieved so many things. We can't pass a single minute without machines, yeah we all know that radiation of mobiles are really harmful for our health but still that doesn't stop us from using it, what does it? We can rather use it safely for less harm like putting it far from us while sleeping or like switch it off while we're not using it or like not using it all while there's weak network and bla bla bla. But we still need to use and new mobiles are coming frequently in markets just because we're buying it for it's new feature and looks that's a bit of Revolution too. So as you can see there's no way stop new things from coming. And we've to deal with it properly. Even I like 70s and 80s and I wish again I could be there using a time machine or something like that where less competition and everything is so cool, but that's next to impossible and we've to move forward not to head backward.
             Now coming to adoption, yes adoption is necessary for wide spread and making things for useful. And someone can earn max 0.0365 sats per year which is equivalent to $17 around if he's getting like 0.0001 from faucets where some one can even make 1 bitcoin in a month or so just by adapting new altcoin. Now that's ridiculous, isn't it? Yeah we've too much scam coins but we can ignore all those new coins which doesn't bring any new feature or something like that or probably more heat generating algos instead of stop adapting all new coins. :)

I think you can't stop people making new coins, but 5-10 years from now, there probably will be 2-3 major ones and the rest will be irrelevant or non-existent.

Purely brilliant. By giving everyone a stake in the coin, it immediately becomes worth much much more. I had major problems with the way ether was sold and thus I chose to not buy any ether. With this, I will definitely get involved and be passionate about it because the distribution method incentives me to do so.

impossible but that'll be great

someone is born everyday.

altcoin existence and security

http://trilema.com/2014/the-woes-of-altcoin-or-why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-cryptocurrencies/

thank you mp

so, basically, you want to stop the evolution of altcoin world? Why?
when will, in your opinion, the community should accept new coin?

I'm totally agree with you. This is impossible to stop new coins from coming into the market and if it'll ever happen there'll be no market.

I dont want stop the evolution, I want stop scam all days are launching coins without value like yesterday Ebolacoin,and week and weeks of scam coins without evolution, We are losting time and wasting energy besides lost money with this scamcoins,we have enough to make that vrypto can work and keep evolutioning.Devs keep making improvements,everybody will do better services and coins will raise in value.

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1You say: We're living in the world of machines and just because of the Revolution we've achieved so many things. We can't pass a single minute without machines,
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        Well I must summarize thing so: So you will continue your revolution to a word how Matrix look?, just think if everybody do revolutions in all
it will be a caos,Just thing to peoples middle machines and middle human it is not evolution,think in a word controled by  Artificial Intelligence,
so you revolution is not evolution.We are changing a paradise for a infernus.So Revolution will come when peoples be concients about this,
nobody want finish with a lot of cables connected at you brain, do you want it?,
 just mentioned it to take concience, but our principal theme is Zero Hour to stop new altcoins.This idea will be supported by peoples that support coins in existence and peoples that are losting money with new launches each day, newbies or not newbies.
 
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2You say:     Now coming to adoption, yes adoption is necessary for wide spread and making things for useful. And someone can earn max 0.0365 sats per year which is equivalent to $17 around if he's getting like 0.0001 from faucets where some one can even make 1 bitcoin in a month or so just by adapting new altcoin. Now that's ridiculous, isn't it?
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        Yes you can make 1 bitcoin for month or more, it is problem, only a few,sames peoples can do it, again and again and it dont make any sense,finally you are getting BTC and are spreading to word only coins without value is it fair? of course is not, so is it idea?  take profits of new
adopters.Besides  worst thing that are doing is  that peoples wasting his time and waste energy doing that Global Warming is affected.    

 

+1 We cant stop people making new coins, but we can stop of support new coins, so finally it will do peoples stop of make coins, and  5-10 years
   major ones will be used, it make sense.

why would i team up with my self ? ;)
and you spelled my name wrong..
YOUR cut from the team.

be carefully guys, in some years  things like robots can change turttle by human, it is funny now?

Well well man looks like you are bit confused about revolution and evolution, when I say revolution I really mean revolution not evolution. And if we gonna stop accepting all new coins which is not gonna happen any how, we'll miss revolutions. Just because of revolution we've BTC with us and there's lot more in the list like LTC which is now not even in the active development state or PPC coin etc. and lastly the current One Capt coin which you're probably holding in large amount or something like that and probably this is the first altcoin you've ever participated and now you want less competition to hike up it's price. And if it's the reason then I'll suggest you don't worry man it'll automatically hike up after the distribution probably. Or probably you've already launched any other coin with another account or probably gonna launch this Sept. and for which you want less competition to make the price up to the sky. No matter what we'll not stop accepting all new coins, who knows what coming in near future.

Yes you're right we're earning BTC but again you proved yourself wrong while you've stated we're only spreading altcoins. No man just because mass adoption of BTC you got to know about it and probably dreaming to become a millionaire as probably you're holding some of altcoins in mass amount. People can never forget old warriors and BTC is our first coin so how can we forget about it? Lots of services are created for BTC and lots are still coming, top brands are starting to accept BTC and lot more will start soon and all are these happening just because of getting wide spread. Well that was enough. Anyway I suggest you to read "Around The World In 80 Days" if you've never read it, you'll like it.

NOT impossible !

They (some crap coins) just didn't get the Spoetnik treatment yet ;)
The need to prepare for the smack down from the Crypto-AXIS !

Lots more coins to die yet still..

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great idea
i have same opinion with you bit1
i'm so tired of so many scam coin everywhere, we have to stop it by stop the launching
it's not just saving money, but it will save power too which is a little step to saving the world

How about you edit the OP from "1TH to 1st"

thank you   :)

foxkyu:
I'm glad hear that, soon many peoples join us to this cause,we need help to saving world because it is ours its unique,
and we need care for the world to us and to next generations...........We need to found new ways of spend less time in front of computers,
tablets and smartphones, we need learn to live again..............

And of course crypto will be more easy without scam.

Hey I've a suggestion see if this is good or not, instead of stop accepting all new coins we can only support new coins with new features, some distribution model other than mining or energy and less heat generating minable coins and to defeat scam we can only accept coins with no IPO and ICO or probably one with escrow and fair reason, no premine and instamine and bla bla bla. BTW there's no particular ways to deal with scam, it always finds it's way through the system. But we can at least ignore it if we detect it early.

very good plan OP

i agree, but i don't think this is the right way to stop new launch of scam coins. What we need is this comm to embrace new values and a new approach.

New coins are only released so the zero post devs can cash out their 1% premine/instamines over and over again.


1. insist ANY premine even 0.1% is held by escrow and released only for continued support of the coin. Sure the devs can have 5% if they work for years creating something worth existing. These coins should only be released to them gradually over time though so they can't just keep dumping and starting new coins

2. NO instamine at all. Anti instamine measures have to be employed on any new launch.


coins that do not abide by these terms need to be aborted by the alt coin community.


cut their coins off and you will see only devs with belief they can create something new and successful publishing new coins.

naw that is crap..

you don't get it or know what is going on.
there are endless ways to take advantage of a new coin
and premine's are not a high priority on my list as your trying to portray here..
want to know what i think is problem no. 1 ?

IPO's
and ANY similar distribution methods.

i will get on my knee's and blow a premined coin dev before i hand over my bitcoin to NXT fags or whatever..

I am a cracker and our job is to look for weakness and exploit it for gain.
So i can spot and have for a year endless ways for these guys to exploit an advantage.
You need to open your eyes and pay close attention to what is going on.. you'd be surprised what kind of shit they get away with.
At least with a premine the amount is stated and you can sort of track what is being paid out often vs some other scammy schemes.

well premine/instamine and any other way the dev teams can get their hands on funds in exchange for empty promises including IPO etc.

There needs be safe guards to ensure only serious devs that create something of worth get financial rewards for actually following through.

premine/instamine/ipo/ico/ even giveaways with no ledger ..... every single avenue for devs to get rewards for empty promises must be stopped or an endless stream of dilution coins will keep coming out.

+1
    In fact, If any coin announced from September 5 to September 30 have some kind of premined or instamined will be announced here in thread,
maybe in OP so many peoples dont support this coin.Community can help giving names of coins that have any kind of premined.
 
   Personally just now, I dont think that new coins must be launch after Zero Hour, statistics about scams coins is high, and the unique way
of stop it is doing such thing.

Some peoples say here that scam dont can be stopped, all us can stop scam,Im sure that when scammers  can`t launch new coins they will be
moving to another ways of scam but they must be stopped again.All of us can work doing things suchs as:

1.-Work on make list about scam coins that were launched  since start after coins launched after BTC and LTC  until October 1,please be careful only scam coins a lot, after when community have it ask to Forums move it to a new theme or so named: Failed Coins  or Scam coins or something like to it, so nobody spend time and effort reading all is scam.So annoucements coins will be more clean and easy of read for example speaking of Bitcointalk only.Please someone make a thread in others forums like Cryptocointalk to invite community to do it, and give a link here.
Work will be completed when 2 list will be announced  "Recommended & Trust Coins"  and "Failed Coin & Scam Coins", so it will be of great
help to community newbies or not newbies to keep mining,trading and supporting its.

2.-If somebody decide launch a new coins after Zero Hour it will be announced here to community dont support this.Here will be good that community
    send alerts in thread to put it in OP or Post here in it thread.........
3.-Exchanges could limit amount of sell orders to a maxim to avoid dumps dangerous to investors, depending of supply of each coin.

4.-A list of trust pools could be done taking suggestion of community and time that pools have giving  services.

5.-A list of true exchanges  could be done taking suggestion of community and time that exchanges had giving services.List could be Mintpal,Cryptsy
    Bittrex,C-CEX,Bleutrade,Comkort and a maxims of 15 exchanges or so, because if we keep supporting new exchanges after we will have same problem
   that very high number of coins launched.

When it be implemented it will mark a new begin in history of crypto how first steps to re-organize and make more easy and trust crypto,without forget importance that real Word  have to us,always seeking new ways of be in touch with nature.

Newbies  there is a lot of scam you know?  if you are lucky and read this before that you start to mine or invest you are lucky,many of us start with crypto without a guide or even advices to avoid scam..... it thread is a good chance to start, read it, read anothers like it, so you avoid scam,
and remember you are unique responsible if you lost time and money.So I recommend that you go step by step in  Crypto World,remember everybody
feel atraction for succesful of BTC, but is very difficult that it happens again with a number elevated of coins such as now,even BTC without competitors  take time to reach high value,and look that it was a peak because his value is dropping,nobody knows the future so I dont say that you
dont grab some coins otherwise you must catch some and hold this.I could give advices about buy miners equipment but I will dont do that because
industry can get angry, I only can say if you are thinking on mine some coins read about distribution methods of crypto, some are free.

it list will be help to you to support coins in future:
     Final List of coins to be supported for community:"Recommended & Trust Coins"  : Please see OP


Please advice to anothers newbies to read this thread and remember not all newbies accounts are newbies be careful.

Members please help to newbies with links to this thread.Newbies are first victims of scam and need your help.

Bitcoin was premined and all coins that are popular get insta-mined or flash-mined so NO you don't know what your talking about ;)

i have read this topic before.. your not the first to say this.  ::)

premine is bad yadda yaddaaa and we need regulation blah blah blah.. good luck with that

/i'm out

i guess everyone who comes here eventually wants to take their obligatory eventual stab at this classic repeating topic hahah

Dogecoin is genuine clones are not.

scam in all his expression(more clones of Dogecoin):

    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=553006.0  DRKDOGE         April 01   x11
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=770742.0  DogecoinDark    Today    x13

And Besides there is BlackDogecoin and there is a DOJE(whitedogecoin).


If we dont stop it they launch DogeFresh,DogeSha,MiniDoge,Dogegroes,MultiDoge,2015Doge,MyDoge,YouDoge,HisDoge,DalmataDoge,101Doges,DogeFace,.....................


One more reason  to keep supporting Zero Hour.

Holy shit, you just single-handedly stopped the launch of Ethereum. Or maybe you'll grant them a permission  ;D

Seriously, the problem of shitcoins will resolve itself, I remember a days when we had 5-6 new ones everyday, that seems to slow down, people learned their lesson.

I'm guessing you've lost some BTC in an altcoin(s) 'investment', didn't you?
 

Well with scam everybody lost, time and money maybe, its only play a game a little more fair to everybody,scammers maybe are laughing of his tricks,they scam to peoples again and again, so someone must help to anothers peoples.There is anothers threads with ideas to alert of scam it probe that peoples are fighting vs scam,with all coins losting his value and miners equipment raising in value it give us some ideas about what is happening,some peoples are happy with coins being launched all days a lot of them, You and me to know who are they, but it is his play, our obligation is help to anothers peoples to be careful  and open eyes about collaterals effects of wasted energy.
     about Ethereum  Maybe in future I'll grant them a permission if they are careful with enviroment and with support of community.      ;D

Doge is the clone LOL

And innovation ceases. Besides anthropogenic global warming is based on bullshit pseudo science. I want new coins, new algos, new everything. Bring it on. The more the better!

I do not 100% disagree that altcoins can harm Bitcoin value and how the community is perceived by outsiders. I do disagree to cease the creation of altcoins. It is a hot market and no one knows what it will turn into. So let's find out. Before attempting to persuade the community to stop altcoin creation formulate your argument better, your reasoning is very unclear.

Y'know, there's an easy way to "Sign The Pledge." Instead of trying to keep up with the insane geyser of alt after alt after alt, just settle in with one or a few of them. Pick a favourite coin, or list of favourite coins, and stick with it/them exclusively. Settle in with the corresponding neck(s) of the altcoin woods, get to know your fellow stakeholders, take a breather and calm down.

If you're a trader, just stick to trading your favourite or favourites.

If you're a socialite, hang out with your fellows and make some friends.

If you're a builder, maybe pitch in a little.

There's just too many alts now to keep track of them all. It's like trying to follow every penny stock listed on the Venture Stock Exchange (http://www.tmxmoney.com/HttpController?GetPage=ListedCompanyDirectory&Market=V&Language=en).

Give yourself a break! Just follow your favourite(s) and let the rest of the geyser gush away.

Then you must try  Ebolacoin and DarkDogecoin , mine it,trade it and support it,good luck with your "The more the better!"........................

Fact is:  If nobody push, nobody will do nothing and it will be  out of control soon.Maybe reasoning is unclear now like crypto just now,so less coins
            more clear,more easy and less scam.Algos are only different only in way on mine, but coins are same, so we dont need x16,x17,x18,x19,x20,x1025,x2050 to keep making coins, coins in wallets are the same, so idea is use this a real world we have enough to make transactions for many years in future, I know at least a coin with supply infinite............Maybe will be good idea launch JohnConnorsCoin only to be
sure machines will not be a problem to humans,if one like idea please launch this coin before October 1 st, and please that it dont be a scam for
be sure about of this dont put it in any exchange for a long time and spread the world with a distribution free, it could be neccesary only in a case.JohnConnorsCoin could have a purpose thinking in future of community that can see that some kind of revolutions "I'm not speaking only of crypto" are not good how it could look now because they dont have limits, If somebody have doubts think in some big civilizations of past how were distroyed for his arrogance, we need learn of past to understand future and dont think only in $$$, ....................................,

   About BTC we are agree on same thing,If there is less coins not only BTC besides anothers altcoins will raise in value,such as soon how release of
new coins stop,like to real world money each country only have a principal coin in circulation if you add to coins of all countries you get a total like
to numbers of countries of world, now think for example that euro represent, so a lot of less coins and price raise. Im not economist but it make sense.

Yes it could work to "Sign The Pledge." Problem is that with more coins in market prices will be droping all days to make it a wasted time to all,
for example watch 42 coin,  it could are in  favourites coins List  of someone, it was launched at firts days of 2014 more or less, If someone choose it how his favourite coin, they lost a lot of money and time, it coins start with a value of +1000 BTC for coin and now his price is so low in fact I dont see it in both coinmarket and cryptocoinrank, however you can found it in some exchanges yet,only think if it was not a scamcoin just imagine all lot of scamscoins that were launched.

   So it is a good example to Sign The Pledge.After October 1 st. Day then and only then, is a good opportunity to everyone make his own favourites coins list based in a Recommended & Trust Coins List.

Or - tl;dr to my earlier - stick to the coins you know. Trade & make friends within their ecosystems. And learn something about 'em & how they tick!

Well this worked. Alt's arguably help people hold on to and stay interested in BTC. I see how altcoins are scammy, deceitful, and often do not serve any purpose. They also hurt BTC in some ways, but ultimately, it just brings more attention (which is needed) and it still a small community.

only 3 days until Zero Hour, when We reach Zero Hour a message in OP will be added "Coins launched after October 1 st are will not be supported",
Peoples agree with "Sign The Pledge" could stop of support new altcoins and only support rest altcoins in existence, each one could choose his "favourites list" of coins to support................

Check my new altcoin dropping October 2nd called October Second.

We have a beer to October Second market opening soon once our team of highly skilled programers figure out how to achieve the technical breakthroughs required.

^^ good luck with it maybe you could make OSD = October Second Dark too.....     Personally I will not support any new altcoin launched after October 1 st , and I think that many peoples will do same thing.

Then good luck to u with your personal thinkings, yeah I know few people will shake their bully head with you but the majority of this community gonna ignore you as they're doing right now. And I hope you gonna join new coins with different account when you'll see you've failed to stop it and there's some profit within it, what isn't it pal? ;)

Fantastic idea, would you like a position on the board of directors for OSD?

PM me.

:D That's nice. He surely gonna contact u with another account.  :D :D :D :D

this is the dumbest idea I have ever heard of, it goes against the principles of crypto.

We don't just make rules, that is the whole point

You are basically saying that all innovation that is going to happen has already happened.

This is like I said, a very dumb assumption.

Backwards as you could possibly get.

Its like the head of the patent office in the early 1900s saying that every invention that will ever be invented has already happened.

This was very incorrect as we all now know.

But you are saying the same thing here. This is only the BEGINNING not the end lol

Thanks but I cant participate in it, because will be launched after October 1st, so it will be out of date, better I will keep watching rest of altcoins, there are plenty of its, some  have infinite supply........

Hmm, if it helps we can launch October Second and October Second Dark on October First. LMK ASAP, time is of the essence here.

I don´t think so, in fact, I will keep watching altcoins launched before October 1st, next year 2015 will be very interesting to watch....

well, Time to go   0 days, 2 hours, 48 minutes, 32 secon, so there is not time enough,sorry........................

I'm not saying that it is end,

You could see this idea like to begin to have a little of order and give trust to peoples and start to make improvements on altcoins in existence obviously prices will rise again, Peoples can work on things like security,marketing,use, avoid fails like to mtgox ,cryptorush,etc.............,

question for you: does Free Distribution finished with miners? , Of course it didn´t.Same way "Zero Hour" is not against of crypto, you could see it
like to another little step......... miners keep mining,pools working,exchanges trading,devs making improvements and giving support to users,etc.......

EDIT: There are a lot of benefits like to avoid download new wallets with danger of virus or malwares,Time will be used of better way,coins will raise in value due to security and use,good devs will be more interested on work because his coins will have more value,forums will be more interesting and easy of read,Foundations could be more cooperative on it because they know that theirs coins need co-exist...........

We reach Zero Hour!!!! October 1st 2014.................For new readers it is date to invite to everybody to support only altcoins on existence before of this date, besides of BTC of course, each one could make a list of  "favourites coins"  such as was suggested in this thread for other member and peoples interested please feel free on "Sign The Pledge" such as was suggested by another member here.

Attention newbies or not newbies things are more easy now................you could  support coins launched before of October  1st 2014....................

new coin?   no thanks, it is out of date..........

new algo?   well, try it forking any coin on existence like to skip scrypt to x11  

improvements?   go ahead, they are welcome

cut supply?  let people decide

coins delisted?  there is not reason to get delisting coins because  investors will be more  participatives on trust coins............

no more ico,ipo------------>only pod,pow&pos....................................

Peoples please remember said in OP previously:

*After October 1 st 2014  will be announced a day to ask to community shutdown all miners equipment for a day whole to reduce Global Warming-Pools please advice if you want join to these cause,is only a day-.

so please feel free of suggest a date to this, what about December 31 th on?, just think all lot of hashrate shutdown on that day, peoples resting of all that thing, it could will be epic.............

Could someone explain next question?    are shutdown all miners or Pos nodes of a coin to safe?

Only remember support coins launched before October 1 st 2014.......... ;)