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Title: Spain Bans Cash Transactions Over 2,500 Euros
Post by: conspirosphere.tk on April 16, 2012, 09:28:12 PM
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/04/16/spain-bans-cash-transactions-2500-euros-119031 (http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/04/16/spain-bans-cash-transactions-2500-euros-119031)

The eurocrats are banning cash left and right to better tax the euroserfs.
This sounds uber-bullish for BTC (until they will try to ban them too).

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQlSWTUjzpeLs_XP7RzxdY2JBjscrSPkOn3qs_j_T9cOGgnOXKTFQ


Title: Re: Spain Bans Cash Transactions Over 2,500 Euros
Post by: evoorhees on April 16, 2012, 09:39:21 PM
The island we're building is becoming ever more important.


Title: Re: Spain Bans Cash Transactions Over 2,500 Euros
Post by: benjamindees on April 17, 2012, 07:45:05 AM
I think this topic should be moved since this seems quite important and isn't getting much attention.  Perhaps to the main Bitcoin discussion section.

We know that Spain is next in line for financial turbulence.  The imposition of capital controls shows that the government is preparing for this eventuality.

Here is the original article in Spanish.  Perhaps someone who is fluent might make a short comment mentioning Bitcoin as an alternative.
http://www.libremercado.com/2012-04-11/rajoy-prohibira-los-pagos-en-efectivo-superiores-a-2500-euros-1276455428/


Title: Re: Spain Bans Cash Transactions Over 2,500 Euros
Post by: Raoul Duke on April 17, 2012, 09:20:26 AM
I'll give you news even more outrageous than that.

Portugal Bans Cash Transactions Over €1000

lol -> but I'm serious. If it's not law by now it will be very soon. EDIT: By June 30 it will be implemented.

I should add that only payments made to Businesses will have this limits and will need to be made using cheque, bank transfer, credit or debit card, etc.
Individuals can still pay each other sums above €1000... for now, at least!


Title: Re: Spain Bans Cash Transactions Over 2,500 Euros
Post by: marcus_of_augustus on April 17, 2012, 09:52:39 AM

So just to get a running total is there a list anywhere of all the "free" western countries that have cash restrictions?

Greece EUR 1500
Spain EUR 2500
Italy EUR 1500 (?)

USA $ 5,000

It is becoming pathetically transparent that fiscal freedom is NOT a priority for Western governments.


Title: Re: Spain Bans Cash Transactions Over 2,500 Euros
Post by: muyuu on April 17, 2012, 11:03:28 AM
These are cash transactions between professionals, so it really isn't a big change. There was a limit on unidentified cash deposits on 3000 (maybe they lowered this too, I haven't visited in years) and there's the limit in cash you can take into the plane which is similar in the USA and most places in the West IIRC.

This basically tries to avoid the typical 3000€ plumber/gardener payment in cash without declaring VAT or profit. Not that it will work, mind. It was illegal already, now it will be illegal on 2 accounts.


Title: Re: Spain Bans Cash Transactions Over 2,500 Euros
Post by: conspirosphere.tk on April 17, 2012, 05:37:40 PM
A great article somewhat related:
ALL TRANSACTIONS TO BE CONDUCTED IN THE PRESENCE OF A TAX COLLECTOR
http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/all-transactions-to-be-conducted-in-the-presence-of-a-tax-collector (http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/all-transactions-to-be-conducted-in-the-presence-of-a-tax-collector)


Title: Re: Spain Bans Cash Transactions Over 2,500 Euros
Post by: Mageant on April 17, 2012, 05:53:47 PM
Reported on Bloomberg now too:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-11/spain-to-limit-cash-transactions-to-fight-tax-fraud-correct-.html


Title: Re: Spain Bans Cash Transactions Over 2,500 Euros
Post by: Gabi on April 19, 2012, 04:37:54 PM
Italy: 1000€ limit

But remember that Italy has the second highest tax evasion in Europe (first is Greece)