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Title: Is Ross Ulbricht a.k.a Dread Pirate Roberts a Randian hero?
Post by: cuddaloreappu on September 05, 2014, 03:09:27 AM
Can we consider Ross Ulbricht as a Randian hero or he does not apply




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randian_hero

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dread_Pirate_Roberts_%28Silk_Road%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randian_hero#Characteristics


Title: Re: Is Ross Ulbricht a.k.a Dread Pirate Roberts a Randian hero?
Post by: Bonam on September 05, 2014, 05:21:27 AM
A key feature of a Randian hero is rationality. Running a criminal organization and getting caught is not particularly rational, if you ask me. There are plenty of ways to make lots of money without ending up in jail.


Title: Re: Is Ross Ulbricht a.k.a Dread Pirate Roberts a Randian hero?
Post by: Honeypot on September 05, 2014, 05:53:30 AM
No, he was trying to off someone while sipping soy latte in starbucks.



Title: Re: Is Ross Ulbricht a.k.a Dread Pirate Roberts a Randian hero?
Post by: Bitcoin Cat on September 06, 2014, 02:02:38 AM
Advertising Silk Road under his own name on bitcointalk does not fulfil the randian hero requirement of being rational either.


Title: Re: Is Ross Ulbricht a.k.a Dread Pirate Roberts a Randian hero?
Post by: awesome31312 on September 09, 2014, 06:19:46 PM
A key feature of a Randian hero is rationality. Running a criminal organization and getting caught is not particularly rational, if you ask me. There are plenty of ways to make lots of money without ending up in jail.

A criminal organization? Silk Road was an example of a Free Market

And to all my fellow Bitcointalk users, Ayn Rand was no hero.


Title: Re: Is Ross Ulbricht a.k.a Dread Pirate Roberts a Randian hero?
Post by: BADecker on September 09, 2014, 06:47:39 PM
A key feature of a Randian hero is rationality. Running a criminal organization and getting caught is not particularly rational, if you ask me. There are plenty of ways to make lots of money without ending up in jail.

Wanna see how they caught him?

http://www.wired.com/2014/09/the-fbi-finally-says-how-it-legally-pinpointed-silk-roads-server/

:)


Title: Re: Is Ross Ulbricht a.k.a Dread Pirate Roberts a Randian hero?
Post by: awesome31312 on September 09, 2014, 06:57:13 PM
A key feature of a Randian hero is rationality. Running a criminal organization and getting caught is not particularly rational, if you ask me. There are plenty of ways to make lots of money without ending up in jail.

Wanna see how they caught him?

http://www.wired.com/2014/09/the-fbi-finally-says-how-it-legally-pinpointed-silk-roads-server/

:)

I think the feds are bullshittin on that one to prevent lawsuits. Which is really no surprise, because our investigative agencies are always bullshitting


Title: Re: Is Ross Ulbricht a.k.a Dread Pirate Roberts a Randian hero?
Post by: BADecker on September 09, 2014, 07:20:58 PM
A key feature of a Randian hero is rationality. Running a criminal organization and getting caught is not particularly rational, if you ask me. There are plenty of ways to make lots of money without ending up in jail.

Wanna see how they caught him?

http://www.wired.com/2014/09/the-fbi-finally-says-how-it-legally-pinpointed-silk-roads-server/

:)

I think the feds are bullshittin on that one to prevent lawsuits. Which is really no surprise, because our investigative agencies are always bullshitting

It wouldn't surprise me at all. But I posted so you folks could see it.

:)


Title: Re: Is Ross Ulbricht a.k.a Dread Pirate Roberts a Randian hero?
Post by: awesome31312 on September 09, 2014, 07:39:59 PM
A key feature of a Randian hero is rationality. Running a criminal organization and getting caught is not particularly rational, if you ask me. There are plenty of ways to make lots of money without ending up in jail.

Wanna see how they caught him?

http://www.wired.com/2014/09/the-fbi-finally-says-how-it-legally-pinpointed-silk-roads-server/

:)

I think the feds are bullshittin on that one to prevent lawsuits. Which is really no surprise, because our investigative agencies are always bullshitting

It wouldn't surprise me at all. But I posted so you folks could see it.

:)

Seriously, who would buy their crap about inputting random characters into the captcha to get the IP of a server?

Nope, they violated the Fourth alright, the NSA is always doing it. There can be no doubt the FBI does it too


Title: Re: Is Ross Ulbricht a.k.a Dread Pirate Roberts a Randian hero?
Post by: BADecker on September 09, 2014, 07:59:25 PM
A key feature of a Randian hero is rationality. Running a criminal organization and getting caught is not particularly rational, if you ask me. There are plenty of ways to make lots of money without ending up in jail.

Wanna see how they caught him?

http://www.wired.com/2014/09/the-fbi-finally-says-how-it-legally-pinpointed-silk-roads-server/

:)

I think the feds are bullshittin on that one to prevent lawsuits. Which is really no surprise, because our investigative agencies are always bullshitting

It wouldn't surprise me at all. But I posted so you folks could see it.

:)

Seriously, who would buy their crap about inputting random characters into the captcha to get the IP of a server?

Nope, they violated the Fourth alright, the NSA is always doing it. There can be no doubt the FBI does it too

The defense needs to get a lot of expert computer witnesses to testify in favor of Ulbricht.  :)


Title: Re: Is Ross Ulbricht a.k.a Dread Pirate Roberts a Randian hero?
Post by: counter on September 09, 2014, 09:11:29 PM
I wouldn't consider him a hero but at the same time I wouldn't consider him to be the bad guy that the government would paint him out to be.  I consider him to be a clever opportunists who seen a chance to make his own lane and took it.  Everything that happened on Silk Road happens everyday/minute in the real world and much much worse.  The Governments should have more concern with the Black Markets of their country that are killing it's citizens day in and day out.  But no not a hero in my eyes just a person with the know how in the right place to make a big impression.