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Title: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: georgekappa on September 06, 2014, 07:01:00 PM
Coinurl is not letting me withdraw my bitcoin, just a heads up for anyone thinking about using their site, they are scammers.

http://imgur.com/yCudMlE


http://imgur.com/yCudMlE


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: mc_lovin on September 06, 2014, 07:07:58 PM
*sigh* more of this... 

I saw you emailed there a couple times I thought Alex was taking care of it but I didn't see your email last night as I went to bed earlier.

How much are we talking here, 0.01 BTC?


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: mc_lovin on September 06, 2014, 07:09:51 PM
oh you had 0.008 BTC as your balance and you needed 0.01 BTC.  that's the issue?  I looked at your traffic and it is very high quality, among the highest on the website.  There is a chance there are some clicks still pending for you?


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: mc_lovin on September 06, 2014, 07:13:01 PM
btw you probably didn't impress Alex by making racial slurs at him :)

and I understand frustration, no hard feelings. 


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: MultipliedCombo on September 07, 2014, 07:53:08 AM
Indeed, another one of these posts.

Being racist isn't go to help you in your situation. Plus, that's not a very big amount.

The minimum withdrawal is 0.01 BTC. If you believe that your balance should be bigger than what you have, then wait it out for a bit.


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: Fortify on September 08, 2014, 08:57:50 AM
Wish these people would get banned, maybe donate the earnings to charity. Insult the owners all day long and then beg to be paid out when you can't even meet the rather simple rules. Been using them for several months now, getting paid out 1-2 times a week but not such tiny amounts.


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: DubFX on September 08, 2014, 08:59:45 AM
Wow it's not even 5$, come on it's really small ammount so get 0.01 and withdraw then. This is useless report and is not even scam.


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: georgekappa on September 08, 2014, 11:18:20 AM
It's not about the amount of money, it's about running a clean business, and as long as they scam me and cheat me out of revenue I have every right to warn people about it since it's  the best for the Bitcoin ecosystem.

 8)


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: Fortify on September 08, 2014, 11:27:40 AM
It's not about the amount of money, it's about running a clean business, and as long as they scam me and cheat me out of revenue I have every right to warn people about it since it's  the best for the Bitcoin ecosystem.

 8)

There is a difference between you not understanding the rules and them scamming you. It quite clearly states they only pay out after each 0.01 accrued, which you had not done. It clearly is about the money as many people use them without any problems.


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: georgekappa on September 08, 2014, 11:31:34 AM
It's not about the amount of money, it's about running a clean business, and as long as they scam me and cheat me out of revenue I have every right to warn people about it since it's  the best for the Bitcoin ecosystem.

 8)

There is a difference between you not understanding the rules and them scamming you. It quite clearly states they only pay out after each 0.01 accrued, which you had not done. It clearly is about the money as many people use them without any problems.



In case you missed it I clearly stated and provided evidence on how they cheated me out of 2/3 of the revenue and that this is not the first time something like this happened. Anyhow, just searching the scam accusation sector it's pretty clear that I'm not the only one accusing them of being a scam, but I'm kinda getting the feeling that most of you already know that.


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: Fortify on September 08, 2014, 11:49:07 AM

In case you missed it I clearly stated and provided evidence on how they cheated me out of 2/3 of the revenue and that this is not the first time something like this happened. Anyhow, just searching the scam accusation sector it's pretty clear that I'm not the only one accusing them of being a scam, but I'm kinda getting the feeling that most of you already know that.


Yes, I must of missed it, because it doesn't exist anywhere else in this thread. You never brought up missing 2/3 of your revenue. Are you living in some parallel universe? You should not assume you have earned anything until it shows up in the overview page balance. The only threads I see about coinurl are people scrambling over a few cents. You don't seem very rational in the emails you sent them. Anyway, I hope they do donate all of your earnings to charity, since you think they're scammers - best not to disappoint.


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: forsakenpnut on September 08, 2014, 11:49:50 AM
they actually pay... I dont know where you got this info from.


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: georgekappa on September 08, 2014, 11:55:34 AM

In case you missed it I clearly stated and provided evidence on how they cheated me out of 2/3 of the revenue and that this is not the first time something like this happened. Anyhow, just searching the scam accusation sector it's pretty clear that I'm not the only one accusing them of being a scam, but I'm kinda getting the feeling that most of you already know that.


Yes, I must of missed it, because it doesn't exist anywhere else in this thread. You never brought up missing 2/3 of your revenue. Are you living in some parallel universe? You should not assume you have earned anything until it shows up in the overview page balance. The only threads I see about coinurl are people scrambling over a few cents. You don't seem very rational in the emails you sent them. Anyway, I hope they do donate all of your earnings to charity, since you think they're scammers - best not to disappoint.


Last time they had like 100 pages of 20 clicks marked as paid and only a tiny fraction of that went in, anyway there's no point arguing, it's deja vu all over again , every time I make the thread I have a ton of slackers not even reading the thread asking dumb questions, I have zero tolerance for stupidity. So you can consider this conversation over.


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: roparker2014 on September 08, 2014, 03:51:53 PM
Hi, I have a big problem with them too - have mentioned it before in a couple of other threads but never got a response.
Am generating up to 10k click on some days (according to the stats on my profile page) but never get paid anything like what I am told I will be paid, under my "earnings today". Sometimes out by a factor of around 10, i.e my "earnings today" says I should get 0.01 BTC, but only 0.001 goes into my account.
Emailed admin at least a week ago and not heard anything back, so there is definitely something funny going on. Would not mind if it was just paying a little under, but as you can see this is quite a large amount! (I have taken screenshots which I have said I can supply to admin if they ask for them).

If I don't hear back soon I am planning to everything over to [Suspicious link removed] which will be a shame as my clicks will go down (a lot come from Twitter, which often blocks adf.y links) but at least I will be paid something close to what I am earning.

(If the figures on their stat page are accurate then my own operation actually accounts for a measurably large proportion of their total traffic, so I would hope they would want to get this sorted out).


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: Fortify on September 08, 2014, 07:33:09 PM
Hi, I have a big problem with them too - have mentioned it before in a couple of other threads but never got a response.
Am generating up to 10k click on some days (according to the stats on my profile page) but never get paid anything like what I am told I will be paid, under my "earnings today". Sometimes out by a factor of around 10, i.e my "earnings today" says I should get 0.01 BTC, but only 0.001 goes into my account.
Emailed admin at least a week ago and not heard anything back, so there is definitely something funny going on. Would not mind if it was just paying a little under, but as you can see this is quite a large amount! (I have taken screenshots which I have said I can supply to admin if they ask for them).

If I don't hear back soon I am planning to everything over to [Suspicious link removed] which will be a shame as my clicks will go down (a lot come from Twitter, which often blocks adf.y links) but at least I will be paid something close to what I am earning.

(If the figures on their stat page are accurate then my own operation actually accounts for a measurably large proportion of their total traffic, so I would hope they would want to get this sorted out).

They sound like a great operation. I could be wrong, but was under the impression the stats page only shows clicks from the advert publishers and not the url shortener, unless it falls under "impressions"? How can you have 10k clicks when the most they show generated each day are around 6,000?



Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: roparker2014 on September 08, 2014, 09:09:12 PM
They have two pages of stats - ad stats and interstatial stats. In the Interstatial stats page they show total "links shortened" - 46k today, and "links clicked" - 32k today. I shorten around 6k links a day and on a very good day, have achieve 10k clicks (average probably 3 -4 k) - so around a third of their total clicks, if their stats are right! (which I doubt they are).
This is all taken from information they have given me though (their own stats) and I have screen shots that show it reporting my clicks at that level, and also screenshots to show that that the amounts I am being paid are far below what I should apparently be paid (As reported by the "earned today" stat, in my overview > Account statistics > General info screen).

I have never had a problem withdrawing with them, and in general I think the service is great - if they paid me at the right rate, it would be awesome!


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: georgekappa on September 09, 2014, 01:37:07 AM
How can you have 10k clicks when the most they show generated each day are around 6,000?

DING DING DING! WE HAVE A WINNER!


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: roparker2014 on September 09, 2014, 02:08:13 AM
But I generate around 6k links per day alone!

http://imgcandy.com/di/MLBM/Screenshot 2014-09-03 11.jpg

(You can see from the "links remaining" that I have shortened over 6k links myself this day).


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: georgekappa on September 09, 2014, 06:21:22 AM
But I generate around 6k links per day alone!

http://imgcandy.com/di/MLBM/Screenshot 2014-09-03 11.jpg

(You can see from the "links remaining" that I have shortened over 6k links myself this day).


Same thing here, they usually scam me %90 or even more out of my revenue.


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on September 09, 2014, 12:45:23 PM
How are you getting these many clicks? Are you using any bot? If you did, they might have know that.

  ~~MZ~~


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: roparker2014 on September 09, 2014, 04:59:07 PM
No there is no click bot, my link shortening is automated but they are all genuine clicks, it should be apparent to admin that they are all coming from legit sources.


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: ytlover on September 09, 2014, 08:17:35 PM
No there is no click bot, my link shortening is automated but they are all genuine clicks, it should be apparent to admin that they are all coming from legit sources.

I dont think they would risk rep for 0.01 btc...


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: roparker2014 on September 09, 2014, 10:12:08 PM
Well they seem to be doing so...
If they don't at least deign to reply to my queries I will do as much as I can to spread the news that they don't pay what they say they will. And bearing in mind (as my screen grabs clearly show) I can generate 7k clicks per day quite easily, hopefully they will realise I have quite a loud voice ...


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: georgekappa on September 11, 2014, 03:34:19 AM
https://i.imgur.com/oYqqi0S.png


Well they did again. Deleted all my clicks, past clicks and new ones that were pending , and also deleted the links that were pretty popular and people kept on clicking


SCAMMERS!!!



Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: roparker2014 on September 11, 2014, 09:03:27 AM
And I was once again paid a grand total of 0.0004 BTC today, despite my stats showing that I had earned 0.0015 BTC (1,000 clicks exactly yesterday!)
Why does the admin not even attempt to answer my queries, by email or on here?


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: pianist on September 11, 2014, 07:47:32 PM
And I was once again paid a grand total of 0.0004 BTC today, despite my stats showing that I had earned 0.0015 BTC (1,000 clicks exactly yesterday!)
Why does the admin not even attempt to answer my queries, by email or on here?

Not all impressions are paid. High quality traffic is paid much higher than low quality traffic.

Moreover, your earnings depend on from which countires are your visitors.

CoinURL does not provide any information about traffic quality metrics, because this can help cheaters.


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: mc_lovin on September 11, 2014, 07:49:00 PM
And I was once again paid a grand total of 0.0004 BTC today, despite my stats showing that I had earned 0.0015 BTC (1,000 clicks exactly yesterday!)
Why does the admin not even attempt to answer my queries, by email or on here?

What is your username at CoinURL?  That sounds bizarre that only 0.0004 BTC goes into your account, that's a very small amount on 1000 clicks.  If I looked at your history and it was 100% unique genuine traffic and all marked as 'paid' then it's something worth looking into.  I suspect it may be that only a small percentage of the clicks are seen as pay-able, and that is the phenomenon you are experiencing. 

I'm sorry our support sucks, there's a few of us here but it's almost as though we need a full-timer on support, and we are looking for someone to do that. 

BUT BEFORE YOU JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS and I will post this on Twitter and whatnot is that we are migrating away from MySQL, many aspects of the site are already transitioned to MongoDB. 

Here is exactly Alex's response to my query about why pages could appear blank like that:
Quote
We paid all his clicks. We pay them EVERY DAY.

We drop old clicks in mysql DB.

We are going to release new page with click history from MongoDB, working on it! :)
Tell him not to panic, we are improving service, old click list pages will be removed soon...

So your "clicks pages" show blank but however they have been paid into a database that you cannot see.  That is exactly what is going on here.  You showed a screenshot of your empty clicks pages but I can see that every day there are payments being made to you. 

http://puu.sh/bv1yr/5b154a5e1a.png

However although your claim is invalid I can understand the frustration seeing those blank pages!  Feel free to vent, I apologise for being unaware of how the database transition has affected the interface like that, but you are getting paid.  Daily. 


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: roparker2014 on September 11, 2014, 08:29:43 PM
Mc_Lovin, thanks for responding, I have provided my user name and further details via PM, and would be grateful if you could look into this (and perhaps credit my account with the clicks for which I have not been paid).
I will be happy to continue using your service if you can bring the payments into line with my earnings.


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: cashintor1 on April 01, 2016, 11:57:31 AM
Why is my withdrawal request of 0.01 btc not processed from yesterday? You wrote 'withdrawals are processed everyday'...

Personal UID: 5382899c2657e402400749



Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: vodaljepa on April 01, 2016, 12:29:21 PM
coinurl is a scam


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: roparker2014 on December 16, 2016, 04:59:41 PM
It actually isn't ... I've been using it for years and it always works fine ..eventually!
They have pretty crappy customer service (unless they just aren't bothering with this forum any more) and sometimes withdrawals take several days, but it does work, and has been running smoothly for a lot longer than most similar services have managed. Somehow it has managed to avoid being blanket-banned by Twitter, too, unlike every other paid-link network I have tried. I assume the business model must be solid for it to still exist after this time and still be paying out.

I would actually consider investing more time in what I've been doing on there, if the team were a bit more proactive at handling customer contact.


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: adsbit on December 17, 2016, 03:22:54 AM
Try us out https://adsbit.net


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: Fortify on December 17, 2016, 10:01:52 AM
I've been using coinurl for a long time now and they have paid out consistently. Every few months a thread like this pops up and usually gets resolved. Most of the time coinurl had slightly delayed on payments or it turned out that the accuser was caught trying to run a scam on them. If you have legitimate visitor traffic then you will get paid.


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: roparker2014 on December 23, 2016, 12:22:28 PM
Lol actually ignore that last post! My withdrawal from over a week ago still hasn't been processed - I think I spoke to soon in defending them ...


Title: Re: Coinurl scam/Refusing to give me my Bitcoin
Post by: rapidleech on December 23, 2016, 01:04:10 PM
i think Coinurl is gone long time ago