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Title: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on September 07, 2014, 05:43:42 PM
At least 100 consecutive posts were deleted in the past few minutes, and it's ongoing.


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on September 07, 2014, 05:45:57 PM
40 more just deleted since I posted this thread. This Romanian, Alex Sovu, has run amok!


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on September 07, 2014, 05:46:55 PM
Another 20 just bit the dust.


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on September 07, 2014, 05:51:37 PM
Say bye-bye to 40 60 more consecutive posts from different users whether they're deemed trolling or not.


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on September 07, 2014, 06:03:33 PM
Just came back from getting a fresh cup of coffee, and noticed another 220 posts deleted.


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on September 07, 2014, 06:16:30 PM
One cigarette and three sips of coffee latter and Puff!, another 260 posts hit the dust.

Any entity that gives Black Arrow VC funding or any news outlet espousing BA WILL also be deemed scammers, with the latter making sure its advertisers are ridiculed.


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: railzand on September 07, 2014, 06:49:38 PM
Delete reply: Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s in topic #294197 by member #244104
Delete reply: Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s in topic #294197 by member #73438
Delete reply: Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s in topic #294197 by member #147040
Delete reply: Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s in topic #294197 by member #73438
Delete reply: Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s in topic #294197 by member #244104
Delete reply: Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s in topic #294197 by member #73438
Delete reply: Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s in topic #294197 by member #147040
Delete reply: Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s in topic #294197 by member #244104
https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php
It's not just him deleting. The others might be guys preparing to sue, I'd guess.
Anyway it's pretty pointless, as mentioned, it'll all be mirrored.


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on September 07, 2014, 06:54:35 PM
~800 consecutive posts were deleted sans rhyme or reasons. Surely there weren't ~800 consecutive trolling posts.


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: OgNasty on September 07, 2014, 06:56:47 PM
Everything is mirrored on Bitcointa.lk  ;D

Surely they must be aware of this...  Right?


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: Dallas5 on September 07, 2014, 07:26:50 PM
Covering up their faults?

Minersource and Black arrow do everyone a favor and continue sending refunds as required by international law!!!


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: goozman96 on September 07, 2014, 07:33:46 PM
I just sat here staring at the bottom right hand corner of my screen with notification after notification of deleted posts. It lasted for 40 minutes, nonstop. I have 281 posts deleted. I don't even know if it's worth reposting them again.


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: forzendiablo on September 07, 2014, 07:47:28 PM
minersource didnt pay me for signature either


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: opieum2 on September 07, 2014, 08:31:27 PM
http://archive.org/web/

Use that to archive what you can.


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: s1gs3gv on September 07, 2014, 09:17:58 PM
Yeah Alpha-T did the same thing recently.


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: nexus99 on September 07, 2014, 10:10:48 PM
You guys could also just post in a nonBA moderated thread...


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: Ramhound on September 08, 2014, 01:57:54 AM
minersource didnt pay me for signature either

Sure they didn't  >:(


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: -ck on September 08, 2014, 03:34:14 AM
It's a self moderated thread and they're allowed to do whatever they want. If you wish to not have your thread moderated by the OP you should do as the thread warning says and open your own thread.
On the other hand, posting 3 or 4 responses to yourself seconds apart is bumping your own thread way too frequently. Please edit your own posts if you wish to repeatedly add to it instead of posting multiple messages.

Moving thread to meta/


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: theymos on September 08, 2014, 04:26:47 AM
I restored all posts that were ever deleted from that thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774278.0

Unfortunately, I just realized that I don't have any way of distinguishing between posts that were deleted by the OP and posts that were deleted by posters. If you deleted your own post in that thread, you'll have to delete it again. Sorry if this is inconvenient for anyone. I'll think of some way of fixing this for the future. I also restored all posts deleted by moderators from that thread, but I can distinguish those, and I might clean them up if I have time later.


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: -ck on September 08, 2014, 04:29:47 AM
I restored all posts that were ever deleted from that thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774278.0

Unfortunately, I just realized that I don't have any way of distinguishing between posts that were deleted by the OP and posts that were deleted by posters. If you deleted your own post in that thread, you'll have to delete it again. Sorry if this is inconvenient for anyone. I'll think of some way of fixing this for the future. I also restored all posts deleted by moderators from that thread, but I can distinguish those, and I might clean them up if I have time later.
Okay now I'm confused as a moderator, for other manufacturers slowly but surely deleted just as many posts as this, even though it was done progressively instead of in one fell swoop and it was deemed within the forum rules.

Now what?


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: theymos on September 08, 2014, 04:35:39 AM
Okay now I'm confused as a moderator, for other manufacturers slowly but surely deleted just as many posts as this, even though it was done progressively instead of in one fell swoop and it was deemed within the forum rules.

They didn't break any rules, but I've chosen to restore the posts and put them in a different topic. The difference in this case is that people are complaining about it. If there are other selfmod posts that people really want restored to a different topic, I can do it. (But it's a fair amount of work, so I'm not going to do it for every little thing).


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: dogie on September 08, 2014, 06:06:06 AM
Okay now I'm confused as a moderator, for other manufacturers slowly but surely deleted just as many posts as this, even though it was done progressively instead of in one fell swoop and it was deemed within the forum rules.

They didn't break any rules, but I've chosen to restore the posts and put them in a different topic. The difference in this case is that people are complaining about it. If there are other selfmod posts that people really want restored to a different topic, I can do it. (But it's a fair amount of work, so I'm not going to do it for every little thing).

And a purging probably signals that there be lawyers circling. Might as well restore the posts before the letters requesting the data come anyway.


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: haploid23 on September 08, 2014, 07:59:56 AM
Bruno, how the hell do you have eyeballs in every corner like this without any mod privileges? Get out to get some sunshine, man!


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: EFS on September 08, 2014, 08:49:03 AM
Bruno, how the hell do you have eyeballs in every corner like this without any mod privileges? Get out to get some sunshine, man!

Modlog is open to anyone. It has nothing to do with mod privileges.


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: haploid23 on September 08, 2014, 10:57:11 AM
Ok maybe not "mod privileges", but I meant how many times does he has to check modlog or the actual thread to catch this happening with minutes?

Back on topic - undeleting posts sets precedence though. Any time more than one person complains about deleted posts, it will be restored?


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: Pentax on September 08, 2014, 01:06:26 PM
I restored all posts that were ever deleted from that thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774278.0

Unfortunately, I just realized that I don't have any way of distinguishing between posts that were deleted by the OP and posts that were deleted by posters. If you deleted your own post in that thread, you'll have to delete it again. Sorry if this is inconvenient for anyone. I'll think of some way of fixing this for the future. I also restored all posts deleted by moderators from that thread, but I can distinguish those, and I might clean them up if I have time later.
Okay now I'm confused as a moderator, for other manufacturers slowly but surely deleted just as many posts as this, even though it was done progressively instead of in one fell swoop and it was deemed within the forum rules.

Now what?

I don't know about those other situations, naturally.

In this case they are deleting posts in the middle of a situation where their miners are starting on fire.

http://ecointalk.net/topic/1348-my-x3-caught-fire/

there are two instances reported on their forum of fires.  not smoke, or the smell of ozone. fire in the cases.

they are denying on facebook that this is happening.  

http://i58.tinypic.com/x10bux.png

as of yesterday someone is reporting on their forum that they weren't even notified.


from ecointalk:

"Chemek, on 07 Sept 2014 - 5:04 PM, said:
Where the fuck is the warning email? My x3 have been running upp to this very moment, and I accidentally went back to the forum to see what's going on. Are you out of your mind?

In sure there or others customers who received their x3 and are still note informed."


their initial sales pitch on this forum included a promise to price match any competitor at time of shipment.  they reiterated that promise several times.   this critical consumer protection element has since been refused.  they initially agreed to refund people's money, some several months ago, and are now refusing.  at this point it seems they have no concern for the safety of people.

they used this forum to solicit business.  they used this forum to make promises to consumers that were material promises in terms of the decision to buy, they are now seemingly attempting to use this forum to scrub relevant information from their thread that pertains to a serious safety issue.

There are multiple instances of unethical behavior here, IMO, with damages to consumers in the tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars or more.  The latest development is an apparent disregard for the safety of the consumer.

A scammer tag should be applied to all accounts having to do with this business, IMO.  I don't know what the forum rules are, but something has to be done to stop people like this from using this forum to mislead consumers.



Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: forzendiablo on September 09, 2014, 03:03:55 AM
this ended not just as scam but as .. risky life scam!


Title: Re: URGENT: Black Arrow is currently in the process of deleting it's entire thread!
Post by: goozman96 on September 09, 2014, 03:05:42 AM
Theymos, I thank you for restoring all the posts. It was of great concern to me because had my posts not been restored, I would have been kicked out of my signature campaign. Thanks very much for restoring them.