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Title: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: promojo on September 08, 2014, 06:22:50 PM
This looks like Braintree news.. Nothing in relation to PayPal/eBay.  This will allow merchants to accept Bitcoin payments via their mobile app..... FYI - let's not get too excited about this.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: beetcoin on September 08, 2014, 06:28:27 PM
oh, is that why paypal's youtube account posted the video then?


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: promojo on September 08, 2014, 06:33:23 PM
oh, is that why paypal's youtube account posted the video then?

That doesn't mean it directly relates to PayPal or eBay just because they posted that...  When the keynote goes live we will see.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: runam0k on September 08, 2014, 06:34:37 PM
I think "precursor" is the word you are looking for.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: pedrog on September 08, 2014, 06:40:07 PM
Braintree channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/BraintreePayment

Paypal channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Paypal

Video posted at Paypal channel.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: beetcoin on September 08, 2014, 06:44:14 PM
realistically, i think they will do a trial with braintree, and if all goes well, they'll spread it on over to paypal or ebay.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: promojo on September 08, 2014, 06:45:54 PM
End result news we are all looking for...

"PayPal and/or eBay now accepts bitcoin payment" NOT "Braintree allows Uber customers to buy services in app with bitcoin".


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: BittBurger on September 08, 2014, 06:56:56 PM
End result news we are all looking for...

"PayPal and/or eBay now accepts bitcoin payment" NOT "Braintree allows Uber customers to buy services in app with bitcoin".


Precisely.

http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/08/paypal-braintree/

-B-


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: Marlo Stanfield on September 08, 2014, 08:46:40 PM
End result news we are all looking for...

"PayPal and/or eBay now accepts bitcoin payment" NOT "Braintree allows Uber customers to buy services in app with bitcoin".


Yes. It's probably a lot more underwhelming than some might have hoped for.

But it's not negative news so there's not much to be mad about.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: Bitcoinpro on September 08, 2014, 08:52:11 PM
they are all one and the same company/subsidiary

for the profits and loses to be separated ebay would have to sell them

or file for bankruptcy on one of the subsidiaries,

the question is what exactly do they think they are doing?


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: CoinDiver on September 08, 2014, 09:05:17 PM
BrainTree seems to be the architecture PayPal is now built upon. Sounds like for developers, this is bitcoin and paypal. Now, will the paypal interface devs get on board.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on September 08, 2014, 09:27:39 PM

This means people using bitcoin on ebay by 2015 imo.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: Bitcoinpro on September 08, 2014, 09:32:26 PM
BrainTree seems to be the architecture PayPal is now built upon. Sounds like for developers, this is bitcoin and paypal. Now, will the paypal interface devs get on board.


small players maneuvering into the best position they can, you have to admire it,

 


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: cambda on September 08, 2014, 10:45:44 PM
This looks like Braintree news.. Nothing in relation to PayPal/eBay.  This will allow merchants to accept Bitcoin payments via their mobile app..... FYI - let's not get too excited about this.

I have to agree, but paypal might adding Bitcoin this year I believe (given the promo video)


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: leannemckim46 on September 08, 2014, 11:10:09 PM
This looks like Braintree news.. Nothing in relation to PayPal/eBay.  This will allow merchants to accept Bitcoin payments via their mobile app..... FYI - let's not get too excited about this.
There is no reason why one subsidiary would accept bitcoin and the rest of the company would not. What would likely happen is any payments to be processed with the customer paying with bitcoin will be processed via braintree which will use coinbase to process the transaction (as per news articles that have reported the deal).


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: promojo on September 09, 2014, 07:32:10 PM
This looks like Braintree news.. Nothing in relation to PayPal/eBay.  This will allow merchants to accept Bitcoin payments via their mobile app..... FYI - let's not get too excited about this.
There is no reason why one subsidiary would accept bitcoin and the rest of the company would not. What would likely happen is any payments to be processed with the customer paying with bitcoin will be processed via braintree which will use coinbase to process the transaction (as per news articles that have reported the deal).

I just hate the fact you have to rely on coinbase for this one.   Like get with it.  Come with a solution that is easy and doesn't involve 3 degrees of separation with Coinbase/Braintree app/PayPal/etc.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: pedrog on September 09, 2014, 08:37:47 PM
This looks like Braintree news.. Nothing in relation to PayPal/eBay.  This will allow merchants to accept Bitcoin payments via their mobile app..... FYI - let's not get too excited about this.
There is no reason why one subsidiary would accept bitcoin and the rest of the company would not. What would likely happen is any payments to be processed with the customer paying with bitcoin will be processed via braintree which will use coinbase to process the transaction (as per news articles that have reported the deal).

I just hate the fact you have to rely on coinbase for this one.   Like get with it.  Come with a solution that is easy and doesn't involve 3 degrees of separation with Coinbase/Braintree app/PayPal/etc.


This is what Bitcoin was built for, to be used as a protocol that people and companies can build on.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: Bitcoinpro on September 09, 2014, 08:44:34 PM
This looks like Braintree news.. Nothing in relation to PayPal/eBay.  This will allow merchants to accept Bitcoin payments via their mobile app..... FYI - let's not get too excited about this.
There is no reason why one subsidiary would accept bitcoin and the rest of the company would not. What would likely happen is any payments to be processed with the customer paying with bitcoin will be processed via braintree which will use coinbase to process the transaction (as per news articles that have reported the deal).

I just hate the fact you have to rely on coinbase for this one.   Like get with it.  Come with a solution that is easy and doesn't involve 3 degrees of separation with Coinbase/Braintree app/PayPal/etc.


Crypto makes all 3 of these companies obsolete the only one left is paypal with their Insurance business,

I'd have to say any collaboration between these companies including ebay would possibly be more to do

with wallet software analysis and setting up minning/node infrastructure than anything.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: leannemckim46 on September 10, 2014, 01:28:17 AM
This looks like Braintree news.. Nothing in relation to PayPal/eBay.  This will allow merchants to accept Bitcoin payments via their mobile app..... FYI - let's not get too excited about this.
There is no reason why one subsidiary would accept bitcoin and the rest of the company would not. What would likely happen is any payments to be processed with the customer paying with bitcoin will be processed via braintree which will use coinbase to process the transaction (as per news articles that have reported the deal).

I just hate the fact you have to rely on coinbase for this one.   Like get with it.  Come with a solution that is easy and doesn't involve 3 degrees of separation with Coinbase/Braintree app/PayPal/etc.

They likely do not have any other way to buy/sell bitcoin in amounts that are needed to accept bitcoin. Coinbase has this infrastructure in place to be able to do this. There are also very few exchanges that could be trusted with as much money as eBay and other large corporations will be ultimately trusting with whatever service/exchange they use to convert their bitcoin to fiat. 


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: promojo on September 10, 2014, 02:22:33 PM
This looks like Braintree news.. Nothing in relation to PayPal/eBay.  This will allow merchants to accept Bitcoin payments via their mobile app..... FYI - let's not get too excited about this.
There is no reason why one subsidiary would accept bitcoin and the rest of the company would not. What would likely happen is any payments to be processed with the customer paying with bitcoin will be processed via braintree which will use coinbase to process the transaction (as per news articles that have reported the deal).

I just hate the fact you have to rely on coinbase for this one.   Like get with it.  Come with a solution that is easy and doesn't involve 3 degrees of separation with Coinbase/Braintree app/PayPal/etc.

They likely do not have any other way to buy/sell bitcoin in amounts that are needed to accept bitcoin. Coinbase has this infrastructure in place to be able to do this. There are also very few exchanges that could be trusted with as much money as eBay and other large corporations will be ultimately trusting with whatever service/exchange they use to convert their bitcoin to fiat. 

True.  Coinbase will have the liquid to help them in the cash out/conversion scenario.   Hey, by chance do you know if Coinbase now supports Canadian banks?  As of Jan/Feb they did not and didn't have plans....  Would be interesting to find out.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: CoinDiver on September 10, 2014, 02:29:14 PM
Coinbase give them a easy safe way in. If it works out, they'll buy out coinbase. If it doesn't work out, they'll cut ties and be out very little. It's a smart business plan.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: promojo on September 10, 2014, 02:48:03 PM
Coinbase give them a easy safe way in. If it works out, they'll buy out coinbase. If it doesn't work out, they'll cut ties and be out very little. It's a smart business plan.

PayPal to buy Coinbase?  That is a scary thought....  Seriously - I think that is the only way for PayPal to remain a business unit as a whole moving forward (5-10 years).


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: jabo38 on September 10, 2014, 02:54:55 PM
Coinbase give them a easy safe way in. If it works out, they'll buy out coinbase. If it doesn't work out, they'll cut ties and be out very little. It's a smart business plan.

PayPal to buy Coinbase?  That is a scary thought....  Seriously - I think that is the only way for PayPal to remain a business unit as a whole moving forward (5-10 years).

The way I see it, PayPal can adapt Bitcoin and make the best of it, albeit with smaller profits, or.... Paypal can ignore and get smashed by it later down the road putting it out of business.  I think Paypal has chosen "if you can't beat them, then join them" in a proactive decision. 

And yes, if they don't buy Coinbase, they are going to buy somebody. 


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: btchaste on September 10, 2014, 02:56:43 PM
I don't understand how bitcoins could be implemented into Paypal, for example I can add some $ to my Paypal account using btc?


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: Strawbtcerries on September 10, 2014, 03:27:34 PM
I think "precursor" is the word you are looking for.
This. They are testing the waters. 2015, you better got your cheap bitcoins already.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: cozk on September 10, 2014, 03:29:22 PM
I don't understand how bitcoins could be implemented into Paypal, for example I can add some $ to my Paypal account using btc?

They give you USD for your BTC you send into their wallet. Other questions ?


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: CoinDiver on September 10, 2014, 03:34:17 PM
I don't understand how bitcoins could be implemented into Paypal, for example I can add some $ to my Paypal account using btc?

They give you USD for your BTC you send into their wallet. Other questions ?

I have not seen anything specifically addressing implementation. Please cite a source.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: cozk on September 10, 2014, 05:13:49 PM
I don't understand how bitcoins could be implemented into Paypal, for example I can add some $ to my Paypal account using btc?

They give you USD for your BTC you send into their wallet. Other questions ?

I have not seen anything specifically addressing implementation. Please cite a source.
Not saying that this is what they WILL do. Saying that is what they COULD do. Because the guy asked how it could be done.

Cite source lol.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: CoinDiver on September 10, 2014, 05:20:51 PM
I don't understand how bitcoins could be implemented into Paypal, for example I can add some $ to my Paypal account using btc?

They give you USD for your BTC you send into their wallet. Other questions ?

I have not seen anything specifically addressing implementation. Please cite a source.
Not saying that this is what they WILL do. Saying that is what they COULD do. Because the guy asked how it could be done.

Cite source lol.

OK, so you pulled it out of your ass. Got it.

There is a number of ways they could implement it. It could be used as a deposit method. This would be a net negative for exchange rate. That could also allow it as a withdrawal method. A net positive. I would like to see paypal accounts denominated in BTC. Just like others can pay you USD using their CAD (for example). Paypal does the exchange, and take a cut on that as well as the payment. This would be a very serious positive for the price of bitcoin.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: promojo on September 10, 2014, 05:21:21 PM
For some reason I don't think PayPal will announce officially on their end in 2015... that is just my take - this is still years away.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: stckpkr7000 on September 10, 2014, 05:35:34 PM
I guess you can find a troll with every positive news release......


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: cozk on September 11, 2014, 01:10:22 AM
I don't understand how bitcoins could be implemented into Paypal, for example I can add some $ to my Paypal account using btc?

They give you USD for your BTC you send into their wallet. Other questions ?

I have not seen anything specifically addressing implementation. Please cite a source.
Not saying that this is what they WILL do. Saying that is what they COULD do. Because the guy asked how it could be done.

Cite source lol.

OK, so you pulled it out of your ass. Got it.

There is a number of ways they could implement it. It could be used as a deposit method. This would be a net negative for exchange rate. That could also allow it as a withdrawal method. A net positive. I would like to see paypal accounts denominated in BTC. Just like others can pay you USD using their CAD (for example). Paypal does the exchange, and take a cut on that as well as the payment. This would be a very serious positive for the price of bitcoin.

Yes i pulled that out of my ass because that was the guy's question. I answered that way because the question is retarded.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: Nagle on September 11, 2014, 04:20:33 AM
This looks like Braintree news.. Nothing in relation to PayPal/eBay.  This will allow merchants to accept Bitcoin payments via their mobile app..... FYI - let's not get too excited about this.
Right. All Braintree is doing is adding the ability to use Coinbase Bitcon->fiat conversions to Braintree's shopping cart program. Braintree isn't handling Bitcoins at all.

It would be better if Braintree were handling Bitcoins themselves.  Coinbase seems sketchy. Has anybody found out where they really are?  Their published addresses are a mail drop on Market St. in SF and somebody's apartment.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: promojo on September 11, 2014, 06:29:50 PM
It would be better if Braintree were handling Bitcoins themselves.  Coinbase seems sketchy. Has anybody found out where they really are?  Their published addresses are a mail drop on Market St. in SF and somebody's apartment.

Why are bitcoin companies so secretive about their address?  Notice how like 90% of any bitcoin'ish company does not post that information on their website?



Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: counter on September 11, 2014, 07:44:51 PM
It would be better if Braintree were handling Bitcoins themselves.  Coinbase seems sketchy. Has anybody found out where they really are?  Their published addresses are a mail drop on Market St. in SF and somebody's apartment.

Why are bitcoin companies so secretive about their address?  Notice how like 90% of any bitcoin'ish company does not post that information on their website?



They probably don't want people watching their Bitcoin holdings.  It's likely they feel a need for privacy at this time and I respect that.  I'm sure some people would suggest there is reason for them to be more transparent but I'm sure there is a good argument/discussion to be had on the matter.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: minerpumpkin on September 11, 2014, 10:26:14 PM
This looks like Braintree news.. Nothing in relation to PayPal/eBay.  This will allow merchants to accept Bitcoin payments via their mobile app..... FYI - let's not get too excited about this.

Yeah sure, but it effectively allows all companies who work together with Braintree, to accept Bitcoin in the future. It just needs to transcend through the different levels of service providers up to the merchants that deal with the customers!


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: dankkk on September 11, 2014, 10:38:13 PM
It would be better if Braintree were handling Bitcoins themselves.  Coinbase seems sketchy. Has anybody found out where they really are?  Their published addresses are a mail drop on Market St. in SF and somebody's apartment.

Why are bitcoin companies so secretive about their address?  Notice how like 90% of any bitcoin'ish company does not post that information on their website?


They use a different address for each transaction. This is how they keep track of when a customer pays for their order. Also most companies will end up selling their bitcoin as soon as coinbase/bitpay allows so their address is kind of a moot point.


Title: Re: This is news about Braintree ***NOT*** PayPal/eBay. Let's not forget that.
Post by: MuttaFuttaGentleman on September 12, 2014, 12:12:35 AM
Big news, just not ATH news.