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Title: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: codymanix on April 20, 2012, 10:28:05 PM
6 USD, 7 USD, maybe even 8 USD until it breaks down again?


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: YoYa on April 20, 2012, 10:30:50 PM
Jinxed!  :P


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: notme on April 20, 2012, 10:31:07 PM
Jinxed!  :P

lol


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: Uncurlhalo on April 20, 2012, 10:32:07 PM
Jinxed!  :P
Most surely jinxed. Somebody pumped and dumped it seems. Or something like that.


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: Technomage on April 20, 2012, 10:35:20 PM
That was one of those "just a matter of time" kind of sells. This is far from over I think, there is low depth close to the price. It will fluctuate for a good while yet.


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: Sitarow on April 20, 2012, 10:35:51 PM
Jinxed!  :P
Most surely jinxed. Somebody pumped and dumped it seems. Or something like that.

The "bid-ask spread" volume is low.

Therefore even low volume transactions can triger wild swings in price. This is and will be commonplace untill the ask/bid catch up.


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: Uncurlhalo on April 20, 2012, 10:38:30 PM
You both are probably right. It will go up and down a good bit. I just liked the irony of this post being made practically the same minute as when the price went from 5.44 down to like 5.26. It was just to perfect.


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: gamer4156 on April 20, 2012, 10:39:48 PM
Once all the drug dealers have to sell their money from the SR sale the price will go down. I know most of you think that SR isnt the #1 reason for bitcoins success but after this huge spike for 4/20 I dont know how you can deny it any more.


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: adamstgBit on April 20, 2012, 10:50:14 PM
Once all the drug dealers have to sell their money from the SR sale the price will go down. I know most of you think that SR isnt the #1 reason for bitcoins success but after this huge spike for 4/20 I dont know how you can deny it any more.
lol

wouldn't you think they would buy b4 4/20?


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: Crypt_Current on April 20, 2012, 11:01:27 PM
Once all the drug dealers have to sell their money from the SR sale the price will go down. I know most of you think that SR isnt the #1 reason for bitcoins success but after this huge spike for 4/20 I dont know how you can deny it any more.
lol

wouldn't you think they would buy b4 4/20?


Stoners?  nope


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: disclaimer201 on April 21, 2012, 12:11:35 AM
Once all the drug dealers have to sell their money from the SR sale the price will go down. I know most of you think that SR isnt the #1 reason for bitcoins success but after this huge spike for 4/20 I dont know how you can deny it any more.
lol

wouldn't you think they would buy b4 4/20?


Stoners?  nope

So they must be extremely dumb or extremely bad businessmen. Not even. They must be irrational customers. In any case, this speaks against using SR, not from a moral point of view, but an economic. I wouldn't want to deal with people who are so dumb to deliberately hurt themselves economically.


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: proudhon on April 21, 2012, 12:17:35 AM
I think ~$5.50 will be the top for a while, but we'll see.  Still waiting for a re-entry point and still planning on it being below $5.00.


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: Spekulatius on April 21, 2012, 12:27:13 AM
Yep 5.5 is the next resistance, but taking that buying volume into account, I dont think itll last long. Maybe till tomorrow. Re-entry around 5.20-5.30. Next stop 6 USD!


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: hazek on April 21, 2012, 12:34:35 AM
Once all the drug dealers have to sell their money from the SR sale the price will go down. I know most of you think that SR isnt the #1 reason for bitcoins success but after this huge spike for 4/20 I dont know how you can deny it any more.
lol

wouldn't you think they would buy b4 4/20?


Stoners?  nope

I have strong doubts SR had much to do with today's rally since most of people trading there don't use the 100% by the book give us your ID info or we keep your money mtgox.


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: SgtSpike on April 21, 2012, 12:34:58 AM
I don't know, I'm not very high right now...


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: disclaimer201 on April 21, 2012, 12:36:11 AM
I think ~$5.50 will be the top for a while, but we'll see.  Still waiting for a re-entry point and still planning on it being below $5.00.

I don't understand what you are doing there exactly. So, you go all out only to get back in the game later? Is this just to get some kicks out of it, or is this actually a working strategy?

I am a miner with a little more than 3Ghash/s, and my goal is to sell as high as possible obviously, but I would never sell all of my coins unless Vlad reaches 30%+ of the network rate or something horrible happens. Maybe so, if I needed to break even to pay for my initial investment. But other than that...

Say you buy in again at just below 5, and the price never reaches 5 again, which is unlikely, but as far as I can tell from many forum posts, bitcoin is a very risky thing and far from a safe investment.


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on April 21, 2012, 12:42:59 AM
I think ~$5.50 will be the top for a while, but we'll see.  Still waiting for a re-entry point and still planning on it being below $5.00.

I don't understand what you are doing there exactly. So, you go all out only to get back in the game later? Is this just to get some kicks out of it, or is this actually a working strategy?

I am a miner with a little more than 3Ghash/s, and my goal is to sell as high as possible obviously, but I would never sell all of my coins unless Vlad reaches 30%+ of the network rate or something horrible happens. Maybe so, if I needed to break even to pay for my initial investment. But other than that...

Say you buy in again at just below 5, and the price never reaches 5 again, which is unlikely, but as far as I can tell from many forum posts, bitcoin is a very risky thing and far from a safe investment.

That's speculation!
Hold (long) on the way up, sell (short) as close to the top as possible, only to buy back more at a lower price.


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: 556j on April 21, 2012, 12:17:01 PM


So they must be extremely dumb or extremely bad businessmen. Not even. They must be irrational customers. In any case, this speaks against using SR, not from a moral point of view, but an economic. I wouldn't want to deal with people who are so dumb to deliberately hurt themselves economically.

Except there was a huge sale on SR that started like 12 hours ago, no commision so around 7% of the cost right off the bat. Then a lot of vendors also reduced prices on top of that. The sale ends in 1 day 5 hours watch the sell off :)

Also, of course drug users are irrational customers. It's been shown over time most drug use does not go down even when the price of them goes up exponentially. There's a somewhat fixed demand regardless of the price.



Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: Shadow383 on April 21, 2012, 01:33:38 PM
Once all the drug dealers have to sell their money from the SR sale the price will go down. I know most of you think that SR isnt the #1 reason for bitcoins success but after this huge spike for 4/20 I dont know how you can deny it any more.
lol

wouldn't you think they would buy b4 4/20?


Stoners?  nope

I have strong doubts SR had much to do with today's rally since most of people trading there don't use the 100% by the book give us your ID info or we keep your money mtgox.
You'd be surprised.
And regardless, one way or another, if there's a surge in demand for BTC on other exchanges it'll push the mtgox price up too.
Market dynamics at work  :P


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: proudhon on April 21, 2012, 01:47:58 PM
Looks like it was a good I moved my bids down.  Expecting more downward movement.


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: cryptoanarchist on April 21, 2012, 02:20:43 PM
Looks like it was a good I moved my bids down.  Expecting more downward movement.

 ???   Are you actually Jim Cramer?


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: proudhon on April 21, 2012, 05:31:17 PM
Looks like it was a good I moved my bids down.  Expecting more downward movement.

 ???   Are you actually Jim Cramer?

No.


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: teflone on April 21, 2012, 06:46:01 PM
Looks like it was a good I moved my bids down.  Expecting more downward movement.

 ???   Are you actually Jim Cramer?

No.

Are you actually Jesus ?


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: bitcoinbear on November 27, 2012, 05:21:32 AM
Remember when $8 seemed outrageous?


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: 420 on November 27, 2012, 05:42:43 AM
Remember when $8 seemed outrageous?


no


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: Crypt_Current on November 27, 2012, 03:01:08 PM
Remember when $8 seemed outrageous?


Yep.  8 was like adamstshghsghsdbit's favorite number for the longest time.


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: Yuhfhrh on November 27, 2012, 03:02:24 PM
Remember when $8 seemed outrageous?


Yep.  8 was like adamstshghsghsdbit's favorite number for the longest time.

I remember that  :D


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: smoothie on November 27, 2012, 03:50:29 PM
Remember when $8 seemed outrageous?


Yep.  8 was like adamstshghsghsdbit's favorite number for the longest time.

I remember that  :D

We are headed back to $8.


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: fx1Trader on November 27, 2012, 05:18:11 PM
Bitcoin will be black swan even for most of bitcoiners who use it today


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: SlaveInDebt on November 27, 2012, 05:20:45 PM
Buy  ???    ;)


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: chriswilmer on November 27, 2012, 05:27:21 PM
Bitcoin will be black swan even for most of bitcoiners who use it today

Like... a black swan as in a sudden upward spike or a sudden crash?


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: 420 on November 28, 2012, 07:17:33 AM
Bitcoin will be black swan even for most of bitcoiners who use it today

Like... a black swan as in a sudden upward spike or a sudden crash?

whatever you're not expecting. thats what a black swan is

so if you want it to go up, expect it to go down, convince yourself ;)


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: bitcoinbear on November 28, 2012, 02:19:38 PM
Bitcoin will be black swan even for most of bitcoiners who use it today

Like... a black swan as in a sudden upward spike or a sudden crash?

whatever you're not expecting. thats what a black swan is

so if you want it to go up, expect it to go down, convince yourself ;)

I am not sure if you are using the term "black swan" correctly. A black swan is not just something unexpected, but something which is believed impossible because every other example is different. Something which can not happen because it has never happened before. Until it does happen, which proves everybody wrong.


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: 420 on November 28, 2012, 10:39:32 PM
Bitcoin will be black swan even for most of bitcoiners who use it today

Like... a black swan as in a sudden upward spike or a sudden crash?

whatever you're not expecting. thats what a black swan is

so if you want it to go up, expect it to go down, convince yourself ;)

I am not sure if you are using the term "black swan" correctly. A black swan is not just something unexpected, but something which is believed impossible because every other example is different. Something which can not happen because it has never happened before. Until it does happen, which proves everybody wrong.

yup I deliberately changed the definition as I wrote


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: fx1Trader on April 23, 2013, 08:04:04 PM
Bitcoin will be black swan even for most of bitcoiners who use it today

Like... a black swan as in a sudden upward spike or a sudden crash?

whatever you're not expecting. thats what a black swan is

so if you want it to go up, expect it to go down, convince yourself ;)

I am not sure if you are using the term "black swan" correctly. A black swan is not just something unexpected, but something which is believed impossible because every other example is different. Something which can not happen because it has never happened before. Until it does happen, which proves everybody wrong.

you miss the point ...and point is what happens after fact !

The black swan theory or theory of black swan events is a metaphor that describes an event that is a surprise (to the observer), has a major effect, and after the fact is often inappropriately rationalized with the benefit of hindsight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: bitarrow on April 23, 2013, 08:12:00 PM
Bitcoin will be black swan even for most of bitcoiners who use it today

Like... a black swan as in a sudden upward spike or a sudden crash?

whatever you're not expecting. thats what a black swan is

so if you want it to go up, expect it to go down, convince yourself ;)

I am not sure if you are using the term "black swan" correctly. A black swan is not just something unexpected, but something which is believed impossible because every other example is different. Something which can not happen because it has never happened before. Until it does happen, which proves everybody wrong.

you miss the point ...and point is what happens after fact !

The black swan theory or theory of black swan events is a metaphor that describes an event that is a surprise (to the observer), has a major effect, and after the fact is often inappropriately rationalized with the benefit of hindsight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory
A little late to reply, are we?  :)


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: Gordonium on April 23, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
Bitcoin is the ultimate Black swan. It will change everything.


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: 420 on April 23, 2013, 08:24:22 PM
Bitcoin is the ultimate Black swan. It will change everything.

black swan to the masses. pocket monster to us


Title: Re: How high the spike will go this time?
Post by: Mouser on April 23, 2013, 09:02:31 PM
6 USD, 7 USD, maybe even 8 USD until it breaks down again?


Amazing what 12 months can do. :)

160 USD, 165 USD, maybe even 170 USD until it breaks down again.