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Title: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: falllling on September 09, 2014, 05:53:56 AM
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why PayPal news brought us down for $20?

the more businesses "accept" bitcoin (immediately dump it on exchanges via market sells), the more it will crash.

Many investors who have inside info are dumping bitcoins so hard these days, ready for the $1 bitcoin final capitulation?
$440 will be broken soon

https://i.imgur.com/LL6QD2P.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/F7v3lBx.png


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: sgbett on September 09, 2014, 05:58:28 AM
needs moar satoshihack


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: Razerglass on September 09, 2014, 06:00:55 AM
needs moar satoshihack

but ....I am the real satoshi  you must has 25 btc send to my wallet or ill dump millions of bitcoin. ok go


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: gogxmagog on September 09, 2014, 06:26:57 AM
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why PayPal news brought us down for $20?

the more businesses "accept" bitcoin (immediately dump it on exchanges via market sells), the more it will crash.

Many investors who have inside info are dumping bitcoins so hard these days, ready for the $1 bitcoin final capitulation?
$440 will be broken soon

https://i.imgur.com/LL6QD2P.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/F7v3lBx.png

What might the nature of this insider information be?
Purely speculation, of course.


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: mraveragejoe on September 09, 2014, 07:45:11 AM
I will wait for the final capitulation to buy some more coins!


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: fonsie on September 09, 2014, 07:57:02 AM
$440 will be broken soon

Still at 440$ to be broken, I thought we would be at 0$ by now...

Seems your predictions are either false or they are taking all the time of the world...

So man up and deliver the promised "final capitulation" or go home to your cardboard box.


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: bitcoboss on September 09, 2014, 08:09:46 AM
looks like your predictions are false, come on do you want us to dump so you can buy cheap?


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: Buo on September 09, 2014, 08:12:43 AM
463$ now at Bitstamp, I don't see any imminent recover but all can happen today.


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: InwardContour on September 09, 2014, 08:31:08 AM
With Paypal help we won't broke $440 but we will go through $500-$600 in few days.


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: heypson on September 09, 2014, 09:20:43 AM
looks like your predictions are false, come on do you want us to dump so you can buy cheap?

This is the common behaviour among bearish users, or do you think they are people with a strong sense of altruism? :)


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: ensurance982 on September 09, 2014, 10:55:11 AM
:D Those charts never get old. PayPal will of course have no negative influence on the price in the way you're suggesting. That's just wild speculation :D But it's entertaining to see what can be made up after seeing positive news!


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: CryptoCarmen on September 09, 2014, 11:11:16 AM
Paypal just made an advertisement so hold on falllling. They did not do anything yet to really harm BTC.


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on September 09, 2014, 11:50:57 AM

Actually paypal will require a much higher market cap in order for BTC to function throughout their platform.


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: andy35 on September 09, 2014, 12:08:29 PM

Actually paypal will require a much higher market cap in order for BTC to function throughout their platform.

They are only considering using it for mobile phone use through braintree. Nothings happened yet, and they are not considering directly using it through paypal.


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: maker88 on September 09, 2014, 12:12:14 PM
fallling. you are an abysmal failure.

kill yourself.


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: Xiaoxiao on September 09, 2014, 01:21:04 PM
Falllling does have a point that paypal will hurt BTC....


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: SquallLeonhart on September 09, 2014, 01:49:05 PM
All this panic sell was caused by falllling, agree?


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: falllling on September 09, 2014, 01:53:28 PM
All this panic sell was caused by falllling, agree?

NO, i predict their approach not create them


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: Xiaoxiao on September 09, 2014, 01:55:11 PM
All this panic sell was caused by falllling, agree?

lol you can't be serious.  Bitcoin's adoption is whats hurting bitcoin.  Merchants adopt BTC yet it makes no difference because 1) no one spends btc on merchandise they can get with VISA 2) if anyone does spend, it is sold immediately 3) miners are selling obv so they can still mine in the future and pay the bills lol.


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: falllling on September 09, 2014, 01:57:52 PM
All this panic sell was caused by falllling, agree?

lol you can't be serious.  Bitcoin's adoption is whats hurting bitcoin.  Merchants adopt BTC yet it makes no difference because 1) no one spends btc on merchandise they can get with VISA 2) if anyone does spend, it is sold immediately 3) miners are selling obv so they can still mine in the future and pay the bills lol.

this is only one reason of all those drops


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: zeroday on September 09, 2014, 02:19:33 PM
Merchants adopt BTC yet it makes no difference because 1) no one spends btc on merchandise they can get with VISA

You are missing real benefits of bitcoin over credit cards.

I have VISA but when I travel I always book air tickets, hotels and rent cars with bitcoin because it's faster and fucking bank doesn't bother me with annoying calls asking was it really me who made that "suspicious" overseas transaction.
I also buy domains and web services with BTC because it's fast and easy and no stupid calls from credit card departments.


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: grappa_barricata on September 09, 2014, 02:36:33 PM
Fact is that braintree is implementing a new, bigger BitPay.


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: institutionaltrader on September 09, 2014, 02:43:12 PM
I agree $440 might be broken in the near future. The downward pressure is enormous. People want out to buy real stuff, not drugs. Then if this resistance is broken, we are in deep shit. I might sell all of my BC now.


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: falllling on September 09, 2014, 02:45:29 PM
It will crash hard because people will only use the new integration to dump all of their BC holdings fast.

The current market and exist strategy is very illiquid so this is good news for people wanting to go out and buy real things instead of drugs.

agreed


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: minerpumpkin on September 09, 2014, 02:52:38 PM
Nah, that really is nonsense! Proclaiming that one of the biggest and most accepted online payment solutions accepting Bitcoin is a bad thing, really doesn't make any sense. There is almost no better way of enabling people to pay with Bitcoin for whatever they like than that!


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: JimboToronto on September 09, 2014, 02:55:43 PM
Merchants adopt BTC yet it makes no difference because 1) no one spends btc on merchandise they can get with VISA

You are missing real benefits of bitcoin over credit cards.

I have VISA but when I travel I always book air tickets, hotels and rent cars with bitcoin because it's faster and fucking bank doesn't bother me with annoying calls asking was it really me who made that "suspicious" overseas transaction.
I also buy domains and web services with BTC because it's fast and easy and no stupid calls from credit card departments.


I don't use credit cards except for a few short years in the early 1990s when I got one on the urging of my accountant. What a mistake. I later realized that he was just trying to make his own job easier.

I much prefer cash. It's safer, faster and much more convenient. The only reason I even got a bank account was cashing cheques and a few pre-authorized payments.

It bugs me standing in a checkout line waiting for some morons to punch in numbers and wait for acceptance of their idiot cards.

Bitcoin on the other hand is even faster and less fuss than cash.

I keep a few hundred million satoshis on a mobile device and a few hundred dollars in my wallet for general pocket money.

I never had cash/Bitcoin refused, bounced, put on hold or grabbed by the taxman.

Screw credit cards, cheques and banks in general.


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: jboyce92 on September 09, 2014, 03:01:40 PM
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why PayPal news brought us down for $20?

the more businesses "accept" bitcoin (immediately dump it on exchanges via market sells), the more it will crash.

Many investors who have inside info are dumping bitcoins so hard these days, ready for the $1 bitcoin final capitulation?
$440 will be broken soon

https://i.imgur.com/LL6QD2P.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/F7v3lBx.png

ROFL.. why do people keep posting these 2 pics side by side? If it suggests "return to mean" why the fuck is BTC not trading at like .. idk.. $50 or so?


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: falllling on September 09, 2014, 03:05:40 PM
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why PayPal news brought us down for $20?

the more businesses "accept" bitcoin (immediately dump it on exchanges via market sells), the more it will crash.

Many investors who have inside info are dumping bitcoins so hard these days, ready for the $1 bitcoin final capitulation?
$440 will be broken soon

https://i.imgur.com/LL6QD2P.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/F7v3lBx.png

ROFL.. why do people keep posting these 2 pics side by side? If it suggests "return to mean" why the fuck is BTC not trading at like .. idk.. $50 or so?

soon we will hit the final capitulation, $50 is over-price for bitcoin


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: fonsie on September 09, 2014, 03:37:26 PM
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why PayPal news brought us down for $20?

the more businesses "accept" bitcoin (immediately dump it on exchanges via market sells), the more it will crash.

Many investors who have inside info are dumping bitcoins so hard these days, ready for the $1 bitcoin final capitulation?
$440 will be broken soon

https://i.imgur.com/LL6QD2P.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/F7v3lBx.png

ROFL.. why do people keep posting these 2 pics side by side? If it suggests "return to mean" why the fuck is BTC not trading at like .. idk.. $50 or so?

soon we will hit the final capitulation, $50 is over-price for bitcoin

finaal capitumilation, cut goose


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: greaterfool on September 09, 2014, 09:00:25 PM
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why PayPal news brought us down for $20?

the more businesses "accept" bitcoin (immediately dump it on exchanges via market sells), the more it will crash.

Many investors who have inside info are dumping bitcoins so hard these days, ready for the $1 bitcoin final capitulation?
$440 will be broken soon

https://i.imgur.com/LL6QD2P.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/F7v3lBx.png

ROFL.. why do people keep posting these 2 pics side by side? If it suggests "return to mean" why the fuck is BTC not trading at like .. idk.. $50 or so?

soon we will hit the final capitulation, $50 is over-price for bitcoin


Two things:

For fallllling:

Why do you keep conflating those two graphs? Neither of them match up, in terms of the items being measured or the scale of time... you've just got two graphs with a vague spike in the middle. I think you think they match up somehow but you never say why?


For everyone else:

Real talk: I spent the summer working on a data ingestion tool that scraped twitter feeds / bitcointalk.org forums and fed it into kafka/storm/trident for real time sentiment analysis of the bitcoin ecosystem (the idea being, if Google Trends data is a lagging indicator for stock prices, real time twitter/message board activity should be similar without the lagging...).

Theory: Falllling is targeting this sort of analysis - he wants to make sure he owns the "sentiment" of this board at a given time, to the degree that he can. Board posters aren't his target - external observers of the largest bitcoin forum in the world are. And the more readers respond to his trolling, the better off he is - he does a great job of engendering and increasing negative sentiment. It's extremely hard to filter him out - he pops up randomly in plenty of threads, and whenever he does, people get annoyed because he's, well, a troll. (Trolllllling? ;) )

There's a reason he's got so many active posts, and no one has managed to 'report to moderator', even though all of our posts have that button in the lower right....

Smile when you see fallllling's post, but don't reply - he profits from your responses in a very literal way. And as a general rule, if you seem him posting in overdrive, remember that it (most likely) means someone who is running extremely sophisticated data mining and sentiment analysis thinks it's a good idea to make you fear / doubt bitcoins value.

Don't let a sockpuppet psyche you out.


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: gtac01 on September 10, 2014, 03:30:59 AM
Bottom is in, higher low once again and $440 intact. I'm buying as much as I can.


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: Brewins on September 10, 2014, 04:40:34 AM
We are almost recovering to the 480's.

No final capitulation, no plunge, nothing.


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: Winner on September 10, 2014, 05:56:27 AM
We are almost recovering to the 480's.

No final capitulation, no plunge, nothing.

bitcoin just dropped $20 at two days ago, do NOT buy in any fake recovers, you have been warned since $680, next stop : $300

don't get controlled buy your greed like before again!

I'm thinking that it might drop to $250


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: Newbie1022 on September 10, 2014, 06:32:59 AM
Yo... it's going up right now. And I am a pessimist. Wait until after it has gone up to at least 600 (probably a 7-handle)... then come back and say it is going down... you might be right at that time. People are too celebratory now to expect much else.


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: fonsie on September 10, 2014, 09:38:43 AM
Yo... it's going up right now. And I am a pessimist. Wait until after it has gone up to at least 600 (probably a 7-handle)... then come back and say it is going down... you might be right at that time. People are too celebratory now to expect much else.

bitcoin dropped $200 and rose $10 and people are happy :)
it will soon drop another $100 - $150 for sure

How can you know for sure?? You're just a Newbie.


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: Wilhelm on September 10, 2014, 09:51:02 AM
All this panic sell was caused by falllling, agree?

NO, i predict their approach not create them

Falllling is not a prophet do not listen to his doomsday prophecy. Bitcoin is going nowhere but up!!! :)


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: gripflierGO on September 10, 2014, 11:36:43 AM
Bitcoin is going nowhere but down!!


Bitcoin is adopted more and more recently. It could be hardly any better, yet you strangely sees all of sudden everyone abandom Bitcoin ???


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: RoadStress on September 10, 2014, 12:06:56 PM
soon we will hit the final capitulation, $50 is over-price for bitcoin

Useless post is useless!


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: CryptoCarmen on September 10, 2014, 12:08:50 PM
with paypay will first drop and much latter gets stable growth.


Title: Re: $440 will be broken faster with PayPal's help
Post by: Wilhelm on September 10, 2014, 12:30:08 PM
$481 and going up ... :)