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Title: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Xiaoxiao on September 09, 2014, 01:25:08 PM
Still 460?  I mean the guy's got 930 in like 1 month, all of which bashing bitcoin!


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: mocrotasje on September 09, 2014, 01:28:33 PM
3XX


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: DeadCoin on September 09, 2014, 01:31:43 PM
Somewhere between the Moon and Jupiter.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: cdooer on September 09, 2014, 01:32:56 PM
You mean the guy who always posts "This user is currently ignored"? Not sure how he's affecting the price, he just keeps repeating the same thing over and over again.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: inca on September 09, 2014, 01:37:47 PM
Still 460?  I mean the guy's got 930 in like 1 month, all of which bashing bitcoin!

Well exactly. It is obvious that there is a concerted effort to negatively alter sentiment on here by spamming every thread and creating numerous FUD threads.

I posted a new thread to discuss the oddity of a hero member using the exact same wording as falllling in a post this morning. I suggested this individual could be controlling the falllling account and several others also.

Blitz immediately moved the thread out of the forum.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Xiaoxiao on September 09, 2014, 01:46:55 PM
Still 460?  I mean the guy's got 930 in like 1 month, all of which bashing bitcoin!

Well exactly. It is obvious that there is a concerted effort to negatively alter sentiment on here by spamming every thread and creating numerous FUD threads.

I posted a new thread to discuss the oddity of a hero member using the exact same wording as falllling in a post this morning. I suggested this individual could be controlling the falllling account and several others also.

Blitz immediately moved the thread out of the forum.

Wow so you really think he's making a difference, lol. 


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: falllling on September 09, 2014, 01:48:05 PM
You mean the guy who always posts "This user is currently ignored"? Not sure how he's affecting the price, he just keeps repeating the same thing over and over again.

you just ignored the fact and yourself from others, but it's up to you to bury your head in the sand


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: falllling on September 09, 2014, 01:49:48 PM
Still 460?  I mean the guy's got 930 in like 1 month, all of which bashing bitcoin!

Well exactly. It is obvious that there is a concerted effort to negatively alter sentiment on here by spamming every thread and creating numerous FUD threads.

I posted a new thread to discuss the oddity of a hero member using the exact same wording as falllling in a post this morning. I suggested this individual could be controlling the falllling account and several others also.

Blitz immediately moved the thread out of the forum.

Wow so you really think he's making a difference, lol. 

i predict what's coming but it's still coming with or without me


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Xiaoxiao on September 09, 2014, 01:52:46 PM
Still 460?  I mean the guy's got 930 in like 1 month, all of which bashing bitcoin!

Well exactly. It is obvious that there is a concerted effort to negatively alter sentiment on here by spamming every thread and creating numerous FUD threads.

I posted a new thread to discuss the oddity of a hero member using the exact same wording as falllling in a post this morning. I suggested this individual could be controlling the falllling account and several others also.

Blitz immediately moved the thread out of the forum.

Wow so you really think he's making a difference, lol.  

i predict what's coming but it's still coming with or without me

no, you are kinda troll, but doesn't mean you're that off with what you are trying to troll


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: falllling on September 09, 2014, 01:55:20 PM
Still 460?  I mean the guy's got 930 in like 1 month, all of which bashing bitcoin!

Well exactly. It is obvious that there is a concerted effort to negatively alter sentiment on here by spamming every thread and creating numerous FUD threads.

I posted a new thread to discuss the oddity of a hero member using the exact same wording as falllling in a post this morning. I suggested this individual could be controlling the falllling account and several others also.

Blitz immediately moved the thread out of the forum.

Wow so you really think he's making a difference, lol.  

i predict what's coming but it's still coming with or without me
no, you are kinda troll, but doesn't mean you're that off with what you are trying to troll

why bitcoin is going to nowhere but down?

goxed,no one with a college degree will invest any serious sums into bitcoin after MTGOX fiasco, The market is currently only a playground for gamblers and fanatics
51% pool (easy came easy gone easy return)
crackers and governments and shit having 1200k coins(mtgox 200k, Ross Ulbricht 140k, crackers: 850k)
no new money
governments warning and banning
many scam IPOs including Ethereum and others
everyone is selling / spending
Dell / Expedia / Newegg / House dealer / etc are selling in real time
Winklevoss ETF will actually be shot down
GABI is already priced in but shorting on bitcoin or failed to raise fund ($200 million is just fake)
Dubai exchange won't create any thing new
more PayPal or whatever businesses "accept" bitcoin (immediately dump it on exchanges via market sells), the more it will crash.
etc..


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: DeadCoin on September 09, 2014, 01:57:03 PM
Still 460?  I mean the guy's got 930 in like 1 month, all of which bashing bitcoin!

Well exactly. It is obvious that there is a concerted effort to negatively alter sentiment on here by spamming every thread and creating numerous FUD threads.

I posted a new thread to discuss the oddity of a hero member using the exact same wording as falllling in a post this morning. I suggested this individual could be controlling the falllling account and several others also.

Blitz immediately moved the thread out of the forum.

Do you guys seriously believe this forum (with each thread no more than couple of hundred hits), has any influence on overall sentiment?

Why would anyone bother,
I think you bulls just can't handle the truth that there are people who are really bearish, and there is more of us than just one.

I, as a bear, visit this forum because it is enjoyable reading and debating people who honestly believe bitcoin will change the world and hit million a piece. (I was always interested in psychology, and this is a great way to observe people in the middle of a mania)


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: falllling on September 09, 2014, 02:01:39 PM
Still 460?  I mean the guy's got 930 in like 1 month, all of which bashing bitcoin!

Well exactly. It is obvious that there is a concerted effort to negatively alter sentiment on here by spamming every thread and creating numerous FUD threads.

I posted a new thread to discuss the oddity of a hero member using the exact same wording as falllling in a post this morning. I suggested this individual could be controlling the falllling account and several others also.

Blitz immediately moved the thread out of the forum.

Do you guys seriously believe this forum (with each thread no more than couple of hundred hits), has any influence on overall sentiment?

Why would anyone bother,
I think you bulls just can't handle the truth that there are people who are really bearish, and there is more of us than just one.

I, as a bear, visit this forum because it is enjoyable reading and debating people who honestly believe bitcoin will change the world and hit million a piece. (I was always interested in psychology, and this is a great way to observe people in the middle of a mania)

time to face the reality of bitcoin's downfall and the final capitulation


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Ivanhoe on September 09, 2014, 02:09:35 PM
We would be at ATH without failllling, no doubt. He is a really successful troll.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: gentlemand on September 09, 2014, 02:13:15 PM
Because of his posts, I slaughtered my entire family because I knew our future was soon to be over. They're currently propped up around the dining table slowly oozing putrid fluids. Thanks to him I know I've done the right thing for them all.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: zeroday on September 09, 2014, 02:26:14 PM
LOL. OP, do you really think Speculation thread is read by most of bitcoin traders ?
I guess reality is that 99% of traders doesn't really aware of this forum :)

Most of old-timer gave up posting here because this thread became trolls haven.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: minerpumpkin on September 09, 2014, 02:32:19 PM
Maybe $470 or something. I don't really think that he actually had any significant influence on the price of Bitcoin at all! He is merely jumping on the bandwagon by proclaiming a continuing downtrend in a time of obvious uncertainty!


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Buffer Overflow on September 09, 2014, 02:32:57 PM
Who's fallling? Someone important?


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: institutionaltrader on September 09, 2014, 02:35:40 PM
I think faalllling is a good thing for the community.

He adds logic and brain into a world with too much optimism aka bubble or ponzi scheme.

You can't have a market without opinions.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: zeroday on September 09, 2014, 02:49:45 PM
I think faalllling is a good thing for the community.

He adds logic and brain into a world with too much optimism aka bubble or ponzi scheme.

You can't have a market without opinions.

Said falllling from alt account.....


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: cuddaloreappu on September 09, 2014, 02:50:57 PM
https://i.imgur.com/RQSRfsc.png


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Ayers on September 09, 2014, 02:51:16 PM
LOL. OP, do you really think Speculation thread is read by most of bitcoin traders ?
I guess reality is that 99% of traders doesn't really aware of this forum :)

Most of old-timer gave up posting here because this thread became trolls haven.


also, they just use boot, i don't think there are many "phisical" traders, falling could be a whales that want to buy cheap coin, don't feed him


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Beliathon on September 09, 2014, 02:51:29 PM
goxed,no one with a college degree will invest any serious sums into bitcoin after MTGOX fiasco, The market is currently only a playground for gamblers and fanatics
I have 3 degrees and 98% of my life savings is in Bitcoin.

Tsk tsk.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: cuddaloreappu on September 09, 2014, 02:51:37 PM
I think faalllling is a good thing for the community.

He adds logic and brain into a world with too much optimism aka bubble or ponzi scheme.

You can't have a market without opinions.

Said falllling from alt account.....


lol


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: andy35 on September 09, 2014, 03:42:26 PM
goxed,no one with a college degree will invest any serious sums into bitcoin after MTGOX fiasco, The market is currently only a playground for gamblers and fanatics
I have 3 degrees and 98% of my life savings is in Bitcoin.

Tsk tsk.

Why have you got three degrees, and how long ago did you put 98% of your life savings in Bitcoin?


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: zimmah on September 09, 2014, 08:47:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmXHvGZiSY


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: zimmah on September 09, 2014, 08:51:24 PM
Who's fallling? Someone important?

falling is the son of professor bitcorn and his wife fonzie


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: jaberwock on September 09, 2014, 08:52:29 PM
Do you really think Fallllllllllllllling can make such difference in prices?

I guess 469,6, that is exactly what we have now.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: fonzie on September 09, 2014, 09:38:19 PM
Who's fallling? Someone important?

falling is the son of professor bitcorn and his wife fonzie

He´s my firstborn and i´m pretty proud of him.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: ensurance982 on September 09, 2014, 09:40:46 PM
He's not important at all. Maybe he caused the dumping of coins of one or two people from this forum, but nothing big apart from that. It could be that the price would be a couple of USD higher, but nothing more...


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Newbie1022 on September 09, 2014, 09:55:56 PM
Still 460?  I mean the guy's got 930 in like 1 month, all of which bashing bitcoin!

Well exactly. It is obvious that there is a concerted effort to negatively alter sentiment on here by spamming every thread and creating numerous FUD threads.

I posted a new thread to discuss the oddity of a hero member using the exact same wording as falllling in a post this morning. I suggested this individual could be controlling the falllling account and several others also.

Blitz immediately moved the thread out of the forum.

Wow so you really think he's making a difference, lol. 

It's now Falling's fault that Bitcoin isn't making money for people? I am sorry, but if Bitcoin cannot withstand a single troll who has notable grammar and spelling shortcomings then I really don't know what to say.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: inca on September 09, 2014, 11:24:04 PM
Still 460?  I mean the guy's got 930 in like 1 month, all of which bashing bitcoin!

Well exactly. It is obvious that there is a concerted effort to negatively alter sentiment on here by spamming every thread and creating numerous FUD threads.

I posted a new thread to discuss the oddity of a hero member using the exact same wording as falllling in a post this morning. I suggested this individual could be controlling the falllling account and several others also.

Blitz immediately moved the thread out of the forum.

Wow so you really think he's making a difference, lol. 

It's now Falling's fault that Bitcoin isn't making money for people? I am sorry, but if Bitcoin cannot withstand a single troll who has notable grammar and spelling shortcomings then I really don't know what to say.

I would love it if we could see an analysis of number of posts vs bitcoins held by user. I am sure that would be very illuminating!


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Newbie1022 on September 09, 2014, 11:27:08 PM
Still 460?  I mean the guy's got 930 in like 1 month, all of which bashing bitcoin!

Well exactly. It is obvious that there is a concerted effort to negatively alter sentiment on here by spamming every thread and creating numerous FUD threads.

I posted a new thread to discuss the oddity of a hero member using the exact same wording as falllling in a post this morning. I suggested this individual could be controlling the falllling account and several others also.

Blitz immediately moved the thread out of the forum.

Wow so you really think he's making a difference, lol. 

It's now Falling's fault that Bitcoin isn't making money for people? I am sorry, but if Bitcoin cannot withstand a single troll who has notable grammar and spelling shortcomings then I really don't know what to say.

I would love it if we could see an analysis of number of posts vs bitcoins held by user. I am sure that would be very illuminating!

Yea, it would tell you, more or less, who was wealthy beforehand? =S So illuminating. Mid-size pseudo-whale snobbery... Oh, I have 100 BTCs, I am hot s---. Yea. We'll revisit just how cool you are in a few months when BTC is trading in the 250s band.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: inca on September 09, 2014, 11:38:01 PM
Still 460?  I mean the guy's got 930 in like 1 month, all of which bashing bitcoin!

Well exactly. It is obvious that there is a concerted effort to negatively alter sentiment on here by spamming every thread and creating numerous FUD threads.

I posted a new thread to discuss the oddity of a hero member using the exact same wording as falllling in a post this morning. I suggested this individual could be controlling the falllling account and several others also.

Blitz immediately moved the thread out of the forum.

Wow so you really think he's making a difference, lol. 

It's now Falling's fault that Bitcoin isn't making money for people? I am sorry, but if Bitcoin cannot withstand a single troll who has notable grammar and spelling shortcomings then I really don't know what to say.

I would love it if we could see an analysis of number of posts vs bitcoins held by user. I am sure that would be very illuminating!

Yea, it would tell you, more or less, who was wealthy beforehand? =S So illuminating. Mid-size pseudo-whale snobbery... Oh, I have 100 BTCs, I am hot s---. Yea. We'll revisit just how cool you are in a few months when BTC is trading in the 250s band.

Not sure it would tell you that at all, given the enormous price gains in bitcoin in the last few years.

I was more interested in breakdown of bulls to bears and the proportion of coins they hold respectively. I am fairly certain that the majority of bear trolls on here simply want to buy a lot of coins at a price much lower than now in the hope of future gains. A few crazies are playing with leverage and will be likely wiped out no matter which way the market moves.

Who mentioned 100 btc? And other than lines on a chart do you actually have any fundamental reason why the price will drop in half from here?


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Habeler876 on September 09, 2014, 11:59:04 PM
If only it were as easy to move the market as trolling on this forum -- why, I think I might be rich if that were the case. But as it stands.... :P


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Newbie1022 on September 10, 2014, 12:01:38 AM
Still 460?  I mean the guy's got 930 in like 1 month, all of which bashing bitcoin!

Well exactly. It is obvious that there is a concerted effort to negatively alter sentiment on here by spamming every thread and creating numerous FUD threads.

I posted a new thread to discuss the oddity of a hero member using the exact same wording as falllling in a post this morning. I suggested this individual could be controlling the falllling account and several others also.

Blitz immediately moved the thread out of the forum.

Wow so you really think he's making a difference, lol. 

It's now Falling's fault that Bitcoin isn't making money for people? I am sorry, but if Bitcoin cannot withstand a single troll who has notable grammar and spelling shortcomings then I really don't know what to say.

I would love it if we could see an analysis of number of posts vs bitcoins held by user. I am sure that would be very illuminating!

Yea, it would tell you, more or less, who was wealthy beforehand? =S So illuminating. Mid-size pseudo-whale snobbery... Oh, I have 100 BTCs, I am hot s---. Yea. We'll revisit just how cool you are in a few months when BTC is trading in the 250s band.

Not sure it would tell you that at all, given the enormous price gains in bitcoin in the last few years.

I was more interested in breakdown of bulls to bears and the proportion of coins they hold respectively. I am fairly certain that the majority of bear trolls on here simply want to buy a lot of coins at a price much lower than now in the hope of future gains. A few crazies are playing with leverage and will be likely wiped out no matter which way the market moves.

Who mentioned 100 btc? And other than lines on a chart do you actually have any fundamental reason why the price will drop in half from here?

I imagine a lot of the bear trolls on here are either day traders or are actively shorting, actually.

As for reasons why it will drop more -- increased regulation, the lack of buying interest by people who are supposedly telling everybody else that the coins are cheap right now (we get a big dump or a big pump and next to zero volume in between by the regular players on here... bag holders have to be sweating), the introduction of institutional competition, Wall Street fuckery, BTC-e flash crashes and pumps (we did have $1000 BTCs yesterday, albeit denominated in Euros, on that exchange), the spreads on the exchanges, the front running on the exchanges, the ability of a whale to completely decide the price on a given day through manipulation tactics that would be illegal on any other exchange, etc., etc. In short, too many fees and hidden fees (the spread and front running work as fees), too much bulls---, and a seriously damaged brand. Who the hell would trade on here other than those with foolish machinations of getting rich or who are here to short. Yea, we'll see 600 again. That's it. And when people realize there is no money in the game, anymore, or at least not commensurate with the time and energy they employ on this... poof, it will fade away. This s--- is ded. D-E-D-. Ded.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Habeler876 on September 10, 2014, 12:06:22 AM
I was more interested in breakdown of bulls to bears and the proportion of coins they hold respectively. I am fairly certain that the majority of bear trolls on here simply want to buy a lot of coins at a price much lower than now in the hope of future gains.

Maybe. But you don't really have any evidence for this..... so relying too heavily on a baseless assumption like that may miss your expectations. Of course a bear (who is a long term bull) wants cheaper coins. Actually, a bear who is short just wants cheaper coins -- to close his short. None of this means that they are wrong, either.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Newbie1022 on September 10, 2014, 12:09:08 AM
If only it were as easy to move the market as trolling on this forum -- why, I think I might be rich if that were the case. But as it stands.... :P

Also, there is the fact that people think that random internet trolls are able to move the price that shows the true colors of this gambit... an extremely overpriced penny stock. It will go up some. There are enough idiots to buy in still. Moreover, the underlying concept of Bitcoin, the technological aspect, may actually be revolutionary and inform our future commerce. But, this s--- is just as institutionalized as the banks... we are saying that we are fighting the banks while rolling out the red carpet to Wall Street, we are celebrating a 10% discount at a website for using Bitcoins when the trades associated with those websites are certain to reduce the value of your holdings by at least that much. This is literally the stupidest s--- of all time. At least beanie babies gave you a toy to play with and to decorate your house. All Bitcoin does is cost people money on crashes, Bulgarian bullshittery, renegade bots, spreads, front running, poor execution of shorts (often a whole 2% away from where you set your short), expose you to excessive counterparty risk, and get you hit by fees on exchanges for trading and for withdrawing into fiat. Oh yea, and it has dropped 60% in the past year with a very obvious, albeit slow, trend towards continuing this all while bag holders sell you magic beans about how there is exponential growth and how many new people are using this (they are not). Oh yea, and it takes forever and a f---ing day, but let's not even go there.

So, basically, the system sold out and doesn't serve it's original purpose. Have fun. This s--- is lame. Deuces mofos. I'll be back in a couple months to short this f---ing thing to the bottom.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: inca on September 10, 2014, 12:24:05 AM
I was more interested in breakdown of bulls to bears and the proportion of coins they hold respectively. I am fairly certain that the majority of bear trolls on here simply want to buy a lot of coins at a price much lower than now in the hope of future gains.

Maybe. But you don't really have any evidence for this..... so relying too heavily on a baseless assumption like that may miss your expectations. Of course a bear (who is a long term bull) wants cheaper coins. Actually, a bear who is short just wants cheaper coins -- to close his short. None of this means that they are wrong, either.

I lack evidence that is correct.

But it strikes me that extremely few people who see bitcoin as an imminent failure would spend the time to learn about it, move actual money onto an exchange with leverage and then short an incredibly volatile commodity which has gains thousands of % in the last two years alone. I would imagine even fewer would then spend the time that the trolls on here do, posting literally hundreds of posts each about bitcoin's impending price meltdown to all and sundry 24/7.

It is far more likely they are just being dishonest (if trolling) and want cheap coins. I have no problem with people who see an imaginary line on a chart pointing down and decide to sell out and buy back in or short. Good luck to the speculators actually, they add liquidity and depth to the market.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: relm9 on September 10, 2014, 12:24:48 AM
The amount of FUD I've seen lately on these forums and elsewhere (reddit) is making me very bullish. You have to wonder why these trolls spend so much time denouncing Bitcoin if it is on its way out anyway. If I thought Bitcoin was headed to 0 I wouldn't spend my time around here.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: inca on September 10, 2014, 12:31:41 AM
If only it were as easy to move the market as trolling on this forum -- why, I think I might be rich if that were the case. But as it stands.... :P

Also, there is the fact that people think that random internet trolls are able to move the price that shows the true colors of this gambit... an extremely overpriced penny stock. It will go up some. There are enough idiots to buy in still. Moreover, the underlying concept of Bitcoin, the technological aspect, may actually be revolutionary and inform our future commerce. But, this s--- is just as institutionalized as the banks... we are saying that we are fighting the banks while rolling out the red carpet to Wall Street, we are celebrating a 10% discount at a website for using Bitcoins when the trades associated with those websites are certain to reduce the value of your holdings by at least that much. This is literally the stupidest s--- of all time. At least beanie babies gave you a toy to play with and to decorate your house. All Bitcoin does is cost people money on crashes, Bulgarian bullshittery, renegade bots, spreads, front running, poor execution of shorts (often a whole 2% away from where you set your short), expose you to excessive counterparty risk, and get you hit by fees on exchanges for trading and for withdrawing into fiat. Oh yea, and it has dropped 60% in the past year with a very obvious, albeit slow, trend towards continuing this all while bag holders sell you magic beans about how there is exponential growth and how many new people are using this (they are not). Oh yea, and it takes forever and a f---ing day, but let's not even go there.

So, basically, the system sold out and doesn't serve it's original purpose. Have fun. This s--- is lame. Deuces mofos. I'll be back in a couple months to short this f---ing thing to the bottom.

Steady on there chief. It is naive to believe that group opinion and sentiment cannot be moved by a little army of internet trolls. The NSA and GCHQ have had documents and stratagems for this kind of thing leaked into the public domain. Will it make me sell? Obviously no. Nor you probably. But throw enough muck and some sticks as they say.

Do you have any evidence that bitcoins being used to buy stuff through merchants is depressing the price?

Flaws with bitcoin exchange trading and leverage do not reflect on bitcoin as a concept or payment system. It sounds like you are just angry that your trading of a hyper volatile thinly traded commodity is going badly. Leverage is dangerous!


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Habeler876 on September 10, 2014, 12:41:21 AM
Good luck to the speculators actually, they add liquidity and depth to the market.

Thumbs up! For all the hate that TA/traders receive on this forum, this is very much true. It's funny, but I've actually seen HODLers on this forum claim that traders cause the volatility. Well, just imagine if there were no traders -- empty order books. Imagine the spikes then! More likely, the volatility comes from the fact that bitcoin is a revolutionary new asset class in an illiquid, unregulated market....


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: inca on September 10, 2014, 12:55:52 AM
Good luck to the speculators actually, they add liquidity and depth to the market.

Thumbs up! For all the hate that TA/traders receive on this forum, this is very much true. It's funny, but I've actually seen HODLers on this forum claim that traders cause the volatility. Well, just imagine if there were no traders -- empty order books. Imagine the spikes then! More likely, the volatility comes from the fact that bitcoin is a revolutionary new asset class in an illiquid, unregulated market....

On this we agree. I view speculators generally as a zero sum game. Some win, some lose, the market wins biggest.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: maker88 on September 10, 2014, 03:12:09 AM
If only it were as easy to move the market as trolling on this forum -- why, I think I might be rich if that were the case. But as it stands.... :P

Also, there is the fact that people think that random internet trolls are able to move the price that shows the true colors of this gambit... an extremely overpriced penny stock. It will go up some. There are enough idiots to buy in still. Moreover, the underlying concept of Bitcoin, the technological aspect, may actually be revolutionary and inform our future commerce. But, this s--- is just as institutionalized as the banks... we are saying that we are fighting the banks while rolling out the red carpet to Wall Street, we are celebrating a 10% discount at a website for using Bitcoins when the trades associated with those websites are certain to reduce the value of your holdings by at least that much. This is literally the stupidest s--- of all time. At least beanie babies gave you a toy to play with and to decorate your house. All Bitcoin does is cost people money on crashes, Bulgarian bullshittery, renegade bots, spreads, front running, poor execution of shorts (often a whole 2% away from where you set your short), expose you to excessive counterparty risk, and get you hit by fees on exchanges for trading and for withdrawing into fiat. Oh yea, and it has dropped 60% in the past year with a very obvious, albeit slow, trend towards continuing this all while bag holders sell you magic beans about how there is exponential growth and how many new people are using this (they are not). Oh yea, and it takes forever and a f---ing day, but let's not even go there.

So, basically, the system sold out and doesn't serve it's original purpose. Have fun. This s--- is lame. Deuces mofos. I'll be back in a couple months to short this f---ing thing to the bottom.

very short sighted. glad to see you leave, wish more idiots would leave.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: lay785 on September 10, 2014, 03:38:40 AM
for every "falling" there are 10 "super bulls" who try raise the price. Dont blame one trolling "super bear" for the current bitcoin price...


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Brewins on September 10, 2014, 04:38:16 AM
Up, but not for too much.

Falllling dumps the coins he receive for trolling, but I doubt he receives enough to make difference in the price.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Chuckee on September 10, 2014, 05:08:46 AM
Look around, there are no new users here interested in bitcoin. Even the "old timers" are going away, leaving only a couple dozen deluded speculators left in their wake. There is no new money coming in. The bitcoin brand name has been too damaged by mtgox, scam IPOs, high profile hacks and last but not least, a 60% drop in value since early this year. bitcoin is going nowhere but down!



Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Brewins on September 10, 2014, 05:17:49 AM
Look around, there are no new users here interested in bitcoin. Even the "old timers" are going away, leaving only a couple dozen deluded speculators left in their wake. There is no new money coming in. The bitcoin brand name has been too damaged by mtgox, scam IPOs, high profile hacks and last but not least, a 60% drop in value since early this year. bitcoin is going nowhere but down!



Hi falllllling.

Next time when you do the socket puppeting stuff, at least try to make the puppets don't speak exactly like you do.

Thank you.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: piramida on September 10, 2014, 05:44:57 AM
blah


Hi falllllling.

Next time when you do the socket puppeting stuff, at least try to make the puppets don't speak exactly like you do.

Thank you.

yeah the moron is getting abusive, seeing that nobody reads his crap anymore.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Newbie1022 on September 10, 2014, 06:37:45 AM
If only it were as easy to move the market as trolling on this forum -- why, I think I might be rich if that were the case. But as it stands.... :P

Also, there is the fact that people think that random internet trolls are able to move the price that shows the true colors of this gambit... an extremely overpriced penny stock. It will go up some. There are enough idiots to buy in still. Moreover, the underlying concept of Bitcoin, the technological aspect, may actually be revolutionary and inform our future commerce. But, this s--- is just as institutionalized as the banks... we are saying that we are fighting the banks while rolling out the red carpet to Wall Street, we are celebrating a 10% discount at a website for using Bitcoins when the trades associated with those websites are certain to reduce the value of your holdings by at least that much. This is literally the stupidest s--- of all time. At least beanie babies gave you a toy to play with and to decorate your house. All Bitcoin does is cost people money on crashes, Bulgarian bullshittery, renegade bots, spreads, front running, poor execution of shorts (often a whole 2% away from where you set your short), expose you to excessive counterparty risk, and get you hit by fees on exchanges for trading and for withdrawing into fiat. Oh yea, and it has dropped 60% in the past year with a very obvious, albeit slow, trend towards continuing this all while bag holders sell you magic beans about how there is exponential growth and how many new people are using this (they are not). Oh yea, and it takes forever and a f---ing day, but let's not even go there.

So, basically, the system sold out and doesn't serve it's original purpose. Have fun. This s--- is lame. Deuces mofos. I'll be back in a couple months to short this f---ing thing to the bottom.

very short sighted. glad to see you leave, wish more idiots would leave.

Not an actual attack. You don't want people to leave. Not even ones you find irritating... except maybe full on trolls.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: tss on September 10, 2014, 06:43:40 AM
why is there no vtd?  i think it would really help here


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: crocko on September 10, 2014, 09:10:14 AM
Look around, there are no new users here interested in bitcoin. Even the "old timers" are going away, leaving only a couple dozen deluded speculators left in their wake. There is no new money coming in. The bitcoin brand name has been too damaged by mtgox, scam IPOs, high profile hacks and last but not least, a 60% drop in value since early this year. bitcoin is going nowhere but down!



Hi falllllling.

Next time when you do the socket puppeting stuff, at least try to make the puppets don't speak exactly like you do.

Thank you.

stop fooling people to buy, bitcoin just dropped $20 at two days ago, do NOT buy in any fake recovers, you have been warned since $680, next stop : $300

yet another failling clone  :P


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Wilhelm on September 10, 2014, 09:29:15 AM
Look around, there are no new users here interested in bitcoin. Even the "old timers" are going away, leaving only a couple dozen deluded speculators left in their wake. There is no new money coming in. The bitcoin brand name has been too damaged by mtgox, scam IPOs, high profile hacks and last but not least, a 60% drop in value since early this year. bitcoin is going nowhere but down!



Hi falllllling.

Next time when you do the socket puppeting stuff, at least try to make the puppets don't speak exactly like you do.

Thank you.

stop fooling people to buy, bitcoin just dropped $20 at two days ago, do NOT buy in any fake recovers, you have been warned since $680, next stop : $300

yet another failling clone  :P

I was thinking the same :)


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: tabnloz on September 10, 2014, 09:59:50 AM
I enjoy seeing a couple of falllling posts here or there. That account is a just a repetitive foghorn of slogans and as annoying as a month of Mondays, but the comedy value is worth it. The punctuation and butchering of the English language only adds to the lolz.

I'm not sure many people minus the spiderweb of obviously linked accounts listens to Fallings posts.

I know I'd rather be listening to the Marc Andressens etc of this world who know a bucketload about tech & innovation. I'd rather listen to finance guys (who have released BTC related products) who have said they spent plenty of time & hours with their team trying to crack the protocol before going ahead. I'd rather use the evidence of even such a maligned company as PayPal accepting payment with a crypto currency into their hundreds of millions of $ businesses. And I'd rather see the fact that the biggest, baddest country in the world has held public hearings into the technology, giving it a grudging respect that even the influence of multi trillion dollar banking cartels cannot dispute.

But that's not to say these forums should be rose coloured only. Bears offer another perspective and so far in 2014 they have been right. So, for me, keep up the 'final capitulation incoming', I'll take it with a grain of salt.



Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: btcxyzzz on September 10, 2014, 11:42:43 AM
many scam IPOs including Ethereum and others

There is 0 chance Ethereum is scam. Inform yourself around.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: wachtwoord on September 10, 2014, 11:51:02 AM
The exact same. The guy doesn't matter.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: andy35 on September 10, 2014, 08:50:18 PM
Falllling will not exist here until his ban is over.

You guys are too presumptuous. falllling has been (temporarily) banned yesterday, and currently he's creating a couple new accounts to spam with which I'm nuking (post deletion and ban). Too bad for him, because that will only make rehabilitation of his main account worse.

Unfortunately there's no indication of when a user is banned, a feature I wish this forum had.

PS: You'd do a lot more good if you simply reported offending posts/threads, because that notifies me. Report button is at the bottom right corner. (Noone in this thread has reported anything the past 3 days).


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: giveBTCpls on September 10, 2014, 09:12:51 PM
LOL at thinking this aspie has any relevant impact within the BTC price. Give me a break, lol.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Wilhelm on September 10, 2014, 09:21:33 PM
Falllling will not exist here until his ban is over.

You guys are too presumptuous. falllling has been (temporarily) banned yesterday, and currently he's creating a couple new accounts to spam with which I'm nuking (post deletion and ban). Too bad for him, because that will only make rehabilitation of his main account worse.

Unfortunately there's no indication of when a user is banned, a feature I wish this forum had.

PS: You'd do a lot more good if you simply reported offending posts/threads, because that notifies me. Report button is at the bottom right corner. (Noone in this thread has reported anything the past 3 days).

Tip to all. Report his clones too. Cut off his income :)


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: counter on September 10, 2014, 11:57:06 PM
I'm going to say 2 cents more then what the current price is.  Falling gave us his/her 2 cents and that is all it was worth in the big scheme of things..  8)


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: romerun on September 11, 2014, 12:54:37 AM
I doubt if paypal/ebay/coinbase 14 countries news are priced in. Ebay support would definitely create btc demand.


Title: Re: If fallling didn't exist, what would the price be right now?
Post by: Dump3er on September 11, 2014, 01:00:04 AM
Falllling  ::)

I would not even take him as my pet.

https://i.imgur.com/Wk9ae2V.png