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Bitcoin => Mining speculation => Topic started by: bmlawr on September 09, 2014, 03:26:53 PM



Title: Which Is Best
Post by: bmlawr on September 09, 2014, 03:26:53 PM
With all of the different miners that get listed in here,
how is one to know which one they should use?

 ???

Which is the easiest to use?

Which one pays you the best return?

Do they have limitations to use per different countries?

Can you run more than one of these miners at the same
time or can you run them all at the same time?

It is good that there are different ones for us to use, but
can someone provide the feedback to these questions
above and add more if you can think of more...

 :-\

All the Best,

Brian Lawrence
bmlawr




Title: Re: Which Is Best
Post by: zdaz14 on September 09, 2014, 09:38:36 PM
I really like my GAW/Zues Fury. Pretty easy to set up with bfgminer on OSX and Minera on my Raspberry Pi. Definitely looking at getting something a bit bigger/more powerful soon though. 1.1-1.5 Mh is nice but only a few cents a day


Title: Re: Which Is Best
Post by: DrG on September 10, 2014, 06:03:24 AM
Brian all that information is already available in the forums.  If you look in the hardware forum you will find lots of guides including Dogie's guide https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702653.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702653.0) which is a atlas for new miners.

You have to do the legwork to decide which miner is right for you.

As far as profit, currently all miners as well as cloud mining is unprofitable.  If you read the forums you will see complete and detailed explanations of this.


Title: Re: Which Is Best
Post by: bmlawr on September 10, 2014, 12:01:27 PM
Brian all that information is already available in the forums.  If you look in the hardware forum you will find lots of guides including Dogie's guide https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702653.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702653.0) which is a atlas for new miners.

You have to do the legwork to decide which miner is right for you.

As far as profit, currently all miners as well as cloud mining is unprofitable.  If you read the forums you will see complete and detailed explanations of this.

Thnks DrG, will have a look in the hardware forum. Was not aware that this information was there.
 ;)
Brian


Title: Re: Which Is Best
Post by: ChuckBuck on September 10, 2014, 01:21:17 PM
Brian all that information is already available in the forums.  If you look in the hardware forum you will find lots of guides including Dogie's guide https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702653.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702653.0) which is a atlas for new miners.

You have to do the legwork to decide which miner is right for you.

As far as profit, currently all miners as well as cloud mining is unprofitable.  If you read the forums you will see complete and detailed explanations of this.

Thnks DrG, will have a look in the hardware forum. Was not aware that this information was there.
 ;)
Brian

Brian, you might also want to state how much you're willing to invest and potentially lose.  Basically what's your current budget and are you willing to re-invest in more hardware to keep up with difficulty jumps.

Also, you'd probably want to state what's your current electrical costs.  Mining at home is essentially dead, especially if you have costs over $0.10 k/WH.

Make sure you read over Dogie's guide like DrG said, but also if you're small timer or home miner investing say $1000 or less, know going in you'll never make that $1000 back.  If you accept that going in, then you're just mining for fun, education, and hobby.  If you're looking for ROI or profit, you'll need free/cheap electric and need to run something like this:

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/commercial-bitcoin-mining-operation.jpg

http://cdn.coinqa.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/farm.jpg


Title: Re: Which Is Best
Post by: leozzo on September 10, 2014, 05:02:45 PM
My favourite is chabatmining, then second is gaw


Title: Re: Which Is Best
Post by: P4ndoraBox7 on September 10, 2014, 06:53:31 PM
First is gaw for me, and second....Gaw :P

No script, no programming, just pay and check your mining hardware mine in your dashboard, simple as that. Ask me any questions if you need :)


Title: Re: Which Is Best
Post by: BTCish on September 10, 2014, 07:30:37 PM
First is gaw for me, and second....Gaw :P

No script, no programming, just pay and check your mining hardware mine in your dashboard, simple as that. Ask me any questions if you need :)

Is it some kind of cloud mining ?


Title: Re: Which Is Best
Post by: P4ndoraBox7 on September 10, 2014, 07:37:16 PM
Yes, the most profitable one.


Title: Re: Which Is Best
Post by: P4ndoraBox7 on September 10, 2014, 07:39:46 PM
They bought Zenpool and got the best actual price for mining hardware with the latest technology, sha256.

You can select prime hashlet too if youre more into the long term benefits cause they will always adjust you to the best mining materials.

http://gawminers.go2cloud.org/SHH8


Title: Re: Which Is Best
Post by: DrG on September 10, 2014, 08:06:08 PM
Brian all that information is already available in the forums.  If you look in the hardware forum you will find lots of guides including Dogie's guide https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702653.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702653.0) which is a atlas for new miners.

You have to do the legwork to decide which miner is right for you.

As far as profit, currently all miners as well as cloud mining is unprofitable.  If you read the forums you will see complete and detailed explanations of this.

Thnks DrG, will have a look in the hardware forum. Was not aware that this information was there.
 ;)
Brian

Brian, you might also want to state how much you're willing to invest and potentially lose.  Basically what's your current budget and are you willing to re-invest in more hardware to keep up with difficulty jumps.

Also, you'd probably want to state what's your current electrical costs.  Mining at home is essentially dead, especially if you have costs over $0.10 k/WH.

Make sure you read over Dogie's guide like DrG said, but also if you're small timer or home miner investing say $1000 or less, know going in you'll never make that $1000 back.  If you accept that going in, then you're just mining for fun, education, and hobby.  If you're looking for ROI or profit, you'll need free/cheap electric and need to run something like this:


Actually there is no guarantee of not making back fiat ROI.  Say he spent $1000 on 2 S3s (Batch 8) and some PSUs.  Say it mined back 1BTC.  If BTC stays at $400 the yes he's down $600 (and only has a PSU to show for it).  If BTC goes to $5000 per coin then he will have made $4000 profit (5k-1k) in fiat.  Of course why bother mining - he could have easily bought 2 BTC today, not mined, and then he would have $9000 (2*5k - 1k) profit.

So fiat ROI is definitely possible but mining doesn't make sense financially since buying coins right now is a better investment.  This may change in 6 months.


Title: Re: Which Is Best
Post by: ChuckBuck on September 10, 2014, 08:59:57 PM
Brian all that information is already available in the forums.  If you look in the hardware forum you will find lots of guides including Dogie's guide https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702653.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702653.0) which is a atlas for new miners.

You have to do the legwork to decide which miner is right for you.

As far as profit, currently all miners as well as cloud mining is unprofitable.  If you read the forums you will see complete and detailed explanations of this.

Thnks DrG, will have a look in the hardware forum. Was not aware that this information was there.
 ;)
Brian

Brian, you might also want to state how much you're willing to invest and potentially lose.  Basically what's your current budget and are you willing to re-invest in more hardware to keep up with difficulty jumps.

Also, you'd probably want to state what's your current electrical costs.  Mining at home is essentially dead, especially if you have costs over $0.10 k/WH.

Make sure you read over Dogie's guide like DrG said, but also if you're small timer or home miner investing say $1000 or less, know going in you'll never make that $1000 back.  If you accept that going in, then you're just mining for fun, education, and hobby.  If you're looking for ROI or profit, you'll need free/cheap electric and need to run something like this:


Actually there is no guarantee of not making back fiat ROI.  Say he spent $1000 on 2 S3s (Batch 8) and some PSUs.  Say it mined back 1BTC.  If BTC stays at $400 the yes he's down $600 (and only has a PSU to show for it).  If BTC goes to $5000 per coin then he will have made $4000 profit (5k-1k) in fiat.  Of course why bother mining - he could have easily bought 2 BTC today, not mined, and then he would have $9000 (2*5k - 1k) profit.

So fiat ROI is definitely possible but mining doesn't make sense financially since buying coins right now is a better investment.  This may change in 6 months.

You're absolutely right, DrG!  It is possible with a fiat price spike of Bitcoin, and if he purchased it with fiat.   ;D  

If say Brian charged it or paid cash for those miners, then yes any spike up in value that exceeds his initial fiat investment is considered profit.  But, if he bought $1000 worth of BTC, then bought the miners for 2 BTC, say in this forum in the "Goods" section, then he'd probably wouldn't mine that 2 BTC back.  That's the only point I was trying to make, the BTC in, BTC out argument of ROI.

Otherwise, I agree 1000% will all your points.