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Title: Gays arrested for... "anger God"?!
Post by: BCEmporium on September 09, 2014, 10:03:45 PM
Here's the article:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/07/us-egypt-gaymarriage-idUSKBN0H204Z20140907

Makes you feel VII Century, doesn't it?  ::)


Title: Re: Gays arrested for... "anger God"?!
Post by: BCEmporium on September 10, 2014, 10:46:28 AM
there is no place sodomy in civilised society

There's no place for people caring for what others do or don't in a modern society.


Title: Re: Gays arrested for... "anger God"?!
Post by: BCEmporium on September 10, 2014, 10:56:19 AM
"Civilized" as you say means only that's a society of unrelated people and it has some sort of building. Ancient Egypt was civilized, Sumeria was civilized, Rome was civilized...

Modern means not only civilized, but with rational people. Not folks looking up what two adults with perfect consent do or don't with their lives and their bodies.


Title: Re: Gays arrested for... "anger God"?!
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 10, 2014, 11:35:01 AM
I am with Egypt on this. Homosexuality as such is not illegal in Egypt (there is no law banning it, as it is not mentioned anywhere in the penal code). But these people organized a public marriage event and even used the video of that event for propaganda purposes. If this event was private, what was the need to upload the video to YouTube?


Title: Re: Gays arrested for... "anger God"?!
Post by: fsb4000 on September 10, 2014, 11:39:53 AM
Egypt well done  ;)


Title: Re: Gays arrested for... "anger God"?!
Post by: BCEmporium on September 10, 2014, 11:57:33 AM
Get a life!


Title: Re: Gays arrested for... "anger God"?!
Post by: dKingston on September 10, 2014, 07:56:23 PM
The article says that some people have posted on YouTube
a video of a gay marriage in Egypt, although gay marriage
isn't legal in Egypt. So, WHY have they posted it on Internet?!
They've been very stupid! I disagree the discrimination against
gay because all we are people, but I think that they could avoid
to post their gay marriage in Egypt on Internet if gay marriage
is illegal in Egypt.


Title: Re: Gays arrested for... "anger God"?!
Post by: spazzdla on September 10, 2014, 08:09:28 PM
there is no place sodomy in civilised society

There's no place for people caring for what others do or don't in a modern society.

Hum.... this is a massive lie..  People are OBBSESSED with punishing people for things they do in private that effect no one...


Title: Re: Gays arrested for... "anger God"?!
Post by: SirChiko on September 10, 2014, 08:10:29 PM
It really feels like in medival age sometimes.


Title: Re: Gays arrested for... "anger God"?!
Post by: TheButterZone on September 10, 2014, 09:13:43 PM
Well if "God" is on earth telling people He's angry about human rights, then it's time to kill him.


Title: Re: Gays arrested for... "anger God"?!
Post by: awesome31312 on September 11, 2014, 12:17:05 AM
there is no place sodomy in civilised society

There's no place for people caring for what others do or don't in a modern society.

So we just become apathetic cyborgs on our overpriced smartphones?


Title: Re: Gays arrested for... "anger God"?!
Post by: Rassah on September 11, 2014, 12:19:57 AM
I am with Egypt on this. Homosexuality as such is not illegal in Egypt (there is no law banning it, as it is not mentioned anywhere in the penal code). But these people organized a public marriage event and even used the video of that event for propaganda purposes. If this event was private, what was the need to upload the video to YouTube?

Are you serious? Why does anyone upload their wedding videos to YouTube?


Title: Re: Gays arrested for... "anger God"?!
Post by: BCEmporium on September 11, 2014, 12:59:02 AM
there is no place sodomy in civilised society

There's no place for people caring for what others do or don't in a modern society.

So we just become apathetic cyborgs on our overpriced smartphones?

So, if you don't go peek your neighbor's private life you've nothing else to do? Now that's a sad life!


Title: Re: Gays arrested for... "anger God"?!
Post by: BCEmporium on September 11, 2014, 01:00:07 AM
I am with Egypt on this. Homosexuality as such is not illegal in Egypt (there is no law banning it, as it is not mentioned anywhere in the penal code). But these people organized a public marriage event and even used the video of that event for propaganda purposes. If this event was private, what was the need to upload the video to YouTube?

Are you serious? Why does anyone upload their wedding videos to YouTube?

Apparently gays can't share their happiness... aren't humans or something like it.  ::)


Title: Re: Gays arrested for... "anger God"?!
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 11, 2014, 01:53:50 PM
Apparently gays can't share their happiness... aren't humans or something like it.  ::)

I have no problem with gays in the United States posting their private videos to YouTube. But if you are a gay, and if you are living in a conservative country (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Russia, Myanmar.etc), then you should not provoke the authorities. Keep your videos private, and refrain from public displays of sexuality. By posting this video to the YouTube, these people have caused more harm than good to the homosexuals in Egypt.


Title: Re: Gays arrested for... "anger God"?!
Post by: Rassah on September 11, 2014, 01:58:52 PM
Apparently gays can't share their happiness... aren't humans or something like it.  ::)

I have no problem with gays in the United States posting their private videos to YouTube. But if you are a gay, and if you are living in a conservative country (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Russia, Myanmar.etc), then you should not provoke the authorities. Keep your videos private, and refrain from public displays of sexuality. By posting this video to the YouTube, these people have caused more harm than good to the homosexuals in Egypt.

Is that kinda like if you are a black person, living in a country that practices slavery, it's your fault for living there and you should keep quiet about it, and not the fault of the country practicing slavery? Or a more modern example, if you are an extremely poor person working in a sweatshop, in a country that is perfectly fine with exploiting people in sweatshops, it's your fault for being a poor sweatshop worker and living in that country, and not the fault of the country for accepting sweatshops, and you should just keep quiet about your being exploited, otherwise you'll bring harm on the rest of the sweatshop workers? Nice subjugation advice there.


Title: Re: Gays arrested for... "anger God"?!
Post by: awesome31312 on September 11, 2014, 02:11:32 PM
Apparently gays can't share their happiness... aren't humans or something like it.  ::)

I have no problem with gays in the United States posting their private videos to YouTube. But if you are a gay, and if you are living in a conservative country (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Russia, Myanmar.etc), then you should not provoke the authorities. Keep your videos private, and refrain from public displays of sexuality. By posting this video to the YouTube, these people have caused more harm than good to the homosexuals in Egypt.

Is that kinda like if you are a black person, living in a country that practices slavery, it's your fault for living there and you should keep quiet about it, and not the fault of the country practicing slavery? Or a more modern example, if you are an extremely poor person working in a sweatshop, in a country that is perfectly fine with exploiting people in sweatshops, it's your fault for being a poor sweatshop worker and living in that country, and not the fault of the country for accepting sweatshops, and you should just keep quiet about your being exploited, otherwise you'll bring harm on the rest of the sweatshop workers? Nice subjugation advice there.

Beat me to it. Excellent points.

How can we expect these barbaric conservative countries to act sane on their own? We as people must provoke the government at all times. Don't be afraid of getting jailed, at least you aren't getting beheaded.


Title: Re: Gays arrested for... "anger God"?!
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 11, 2014, 02:51:58 PM
Is that kinda like if you are a black person, living in a country that practices slavery, it's your fault for living there and you should keep quiet about it, and not the fault of the country practicing slavery?

If you are a slave, living in a country where slavery is still being practiced, then you have two options.

#1. Migrate / run-away to another country and live a happy life there
#2. Organize all the slaves and try to seize power.

#2 is only viable if the slaves are in a majority.

BTW.... it seems that you would like to assume that only blacks were taken as slaves. In the recorded history, blacks consisted only of a minority of all people who were taken as slaves. The Atlantic Slave Trade enslaved some 12 million people, while the Arab slave trade enslaved another 18 million.

On the other hand, just the Crimean-Nogai raids into East Slavic lands alone enslaved some 3 million Slavs. And the Spanish conquistadors enslaved tens of millions of native Americans in the Latin America.


Title: Re: Gays arrested for... "anger God"?!
Post by: awesome31312 on September 11, 2014, 03:01:59 PM
Is that kinda like if you are a black person, living in a country that practices slavery, it's your fault for living there and you should keep quiet about it, and not the fault of the country practicing slavery?

If you are a slave, living in a country where slavery is still being practiced, then you have two options.

#1. Migrate / run-away to another country and live a happy life there
#2. Organize all the slaves and try to seize power.

#2 is only viable if the slaves are in a majority.

BTW.... it seems that you would like to assume that only blacks were taken as slaves. In the recorded history, blacks consisted only of a minority of all people who were taken as slaves. The Atlantic Slave Trade enslaved some 12 million people, while the Arab slave trade enslaved another 18 million.

On the other hand, just the Crimean-Nogai raids into East Slavic lands alone enslaved some 3 million Slavs. And the Spanish conquistadors enslaved tens of millions of native Americans in the Latin America.

You cannot deny that we had the most gruesome history of slavery. America is the only nation that fought a Civil War based on slavery.