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Title: What will be considered Bitcoin 1.0?
Post by: Ragnarly on September 12, 2014, 04:39:06 PM
We're currently at Bitcoin Core 0.9 What will it take to get to 1.0?

Edit: Not the wallet, the protocol.


Title: Re: What will be considered Bitcoin 1.0?
Post by: Madness on September 12, 2014, 05:06:25 PM
Bitcoin core is just a wallet :p

but I'am curious , who made the first bitcoin wallet ?  Satoshi nakamoto too ? :o


Title: Re: What will be considered Bitcoin 1.0?
Post by: gadman2 on September 12, 2014, 05:09:29 PM
I was actually asking myself this question a few days ago. "When will bitcoin exit beta?"

Seems it sure has had a lot of media and world wide involvement to still be in beta.


Title: Re: What will be considered Bitcoin 1.0?
Post by: Ragnarly on September 12, 2014, 05:10:25 PM
Bitcoin core is just a wallet :p

but I'am curious , who made the first bitcoin wallet ?  Satoshi nakamoto too ? :o

Oh yeah, I meant the protocol, not the wallet.


Title: Re: What will be considered Bitcoin 1.0?
Post by: oceans on September 12, 2014, 05:48:12 PM
Would be nice to see it exit beta to be honest because I feel it has enough exposure now to come out of beta and may be move to 1.0 so I am unsure as to why they have not considered moving up to 1.0 yet.


Title: Re: What will be considered Bitcoin 1.0?
Post by: Gnarrrly on September 12, 2014, 05:57:18 PM
I hope it isnt as cpu consuming as it is now (and ram)


Title: Re: What will be considered Bitcoin 1.0?
Post by: kokojie on September 12, 2014, 06:13:41 PM
The protocol is pretty solid, (other than the PoW mining non-sense, but mining is another topic). It's probably already mass adoption ready, other than some minor tweaks and bugfix.

The QT wallet on the other hand, is actually becoming worse and worse, it had better performance probably 3 years ago than now, and performance is deteriorating rapidly. Soon it will require 40GB of free space, a top of the line CPU, and a good amount of RAM, just to run the QT wallet for the first time, and then expect to wait days until it could start working. But then again, no new user is really using QT wallet nowadays I guess.


Title: Re: What will be considered Bitcoin 1.0?
Post by: Meuh6879 on September 12, 2014, 07:50:03 PM
 ::) decrease CACHE to 5Mb and connexion to 12.
problem solved.


Title: Re: What will be considered Bitcoin 1.0?
Post by: teukon on September 12, 2014, 11:52:50 PM
We're currently at Bitcoin Core 0.9 What will it take to get to 1.0?

Edit: Not the wallet, the protocol.

I don't really distinguish between the wallet (Bitcoin Core) and the protocol regarding the status "beta" simply because Bitcoin Core is currently viewed as the reference implementation of the protocol.

I'm sure we'll see Bitcoin Core 0.10, 0.11, and 0.12 first if this remark by Gavin from 2012 is anything to go by:

The things on my "good enough to be called 1.0" list are:

+ easy enough for my grandma to use
+ secure enough that it'd be hard for my grandma to lose her bitcoins, even if her computer is infected by 11 bitcoin-stealing trojans and then catches fire and explodes.
+ past the December block-reward-drops-to-25


Title: Re: What will be considered Bitcoin 1.0?
Post by: teukon on September 13, 2014, 12:06:53 AM
Bitcoin core is just a wallet :p

but I'am curious , who made the first bitcoin wallet ?  Satoshi nakamoto too ? :o

He sure did.  You can still see his Bitcoin v0.1 Alpha release notes (http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/21312004/) on Sourceforge.


Title: Re: What will be considered Bitcoin 1.0?
Post by: p2pbucks on September 13, 2014, 12:40:07 AM
1. thoroughly solve 51% problem
2. eliminate the risk of accepting zero confirmation
3. reward mechenisim of  the long term full node owner
4. allow user to run a SPV intellectual node


Title: Re: What will be considered Bitcoin 1.0?
Post by: andytoshi on September 13, 2014, 01:31:53 AM
1. thoroughly solve 51% problem
2. eliminate the risk of accepting zero confirmation
3. reward mechenisim of  the long term full node owner

Can you cite a single core developer suggesting that any of these are targeted or even solvable problems?

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4. allow user to run a SPV intellectual node

What does this mean?


Title: Re: What will be considered Bitcoin 1.0?
Post by: cbeast on September 13, 2014, 03:51:02 AM
I hope it isnt as cpu consuming as it is now (and ram)
It will be a brain chip implant that runs on gray matter.  ;D


Title: Re: What will be considered Bitcoin 1.0?
Post by: Luke-Jr on September 14, 2014, 05:49:25 AM
1. thoroughly solve 51% problem
This is a social problem, not a technical problem. It cannot be "fixed" by technical means, by definition.

2. eliminate the risk of accepting zero confirmation
Not likely to be possible.


Title: Re: What will be considered Bitcoin 1.0?
Post by: Willisius on September 15, 2014, 10:34:50 PM
Well due to how versions are handled in the code, 0.99 is the last possible subversion. So at least there's an upper bound for you. :P


Title: Re: What will be considered Bitcoin 1.0?
Post by: Luke-Jr on September 15, 2014, 10:39:34 PM
Well due to how versions are handled in the code, 0.99 is the last possible subversion. So at least there's an upper bound for you. :P
Nah, we just have to fix how versions are handled in the code before 0.100 ;)


Title: Re: What will be considered Bitcoin 1.0?
Post by: barwizi on September 16, 2014, 10:49:58 AM
Satoshi wanted to move it into 1.3 was it , a while ago.


Title: Re: What will be considered Bitcoin 1.0?
Post by: teukon on September 16, 2014, 07:01:05 PM
Satoshi wanted to move it into 1.3 was it , a while ago.

Yes.  Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=217.0).


Title: Re: What will be considered Bitcoin 1.0?
Post by: deepceleron on September 17, 2014, 12:37:34 AM
Besides a long buglist, there are still several great ideas worth of consideration, and until they have been vetted and proven or rejected outright, it is hard to say Bitcoin is "done" and now in maintenance mode.

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/README.mediawiki
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Softfork_wishlist
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Hardfork_Wishlist


Title: Re: What will be considered Bitcoin 1.0?
Post by: cbeast on November 14, 2014, 02:44:49 PM
Hello ,Help me... :(..When will Bitcoin core 1.0 release out?
There has been no announcement yet. It's purely speculation at this point.