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Title: Help? Real LIVE Betting on NFL Games with Bitcoin?
Post by: betonnfl on September 14, 2014, 06:33:08 PM
Hey All,

I'm growing increasingly frustrated.  I've been a long-term Bitcoin users, blah blah blah.

But I've also been a long-term user of Bovada, they have Live Betting on tons of sports, and I'm looking for something like what Bovada offers but with Bitcoin.

I want to be able to bet on live money lines during a game (as they update), but I also want to be able to bet on individual plays and drives, things like:  Will this drive result in (A) Touchdown (B) Turn Over (C) Field Goal.  Will this throw be Complete or Incomplete, etc, etc, etc.

I've tried CloudBet, they have a "Live Sports" section but it doesn't seem to work.  A game will be listed in the "Live" section, and then promptly disappear after the game starts.  Even if you save the URL for that game it never updates.  And I've only ever seen money lines as a bet option.  CloudBet "looks" nice (decent looking UI, etc), but I have no idea how the hell you actually bet live if you really can.  At this point, I'm thinking you can't, at least not for NFL games.

Betcoin never seems to have NFL at all for Live Betting, and I've only ever seen money lines.

I've looked at DirectBet and while their site is terrible from a UI perspective, the "live" betting is only money lines.

Nitrogen doesn't seem to have live betting at all.

Anonibet has live betting, tons of different types of bets, but not play-by-play, only updated things like handicap, quarters, races to points, etc.

I know there are tons of European Sports and those are common for Sportsbooks, but come on it's the NFL, and it's week 2...SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

So I'm guessing I'm doing something wrong, looking in the wrong place...something?  CloudBet lists the games before they start, but then I can't seem to find them afterwards, but the fact that they list them really makes me feel like they might have what I'm after...am I wrong?

Any help would be appreciated.  I just want to bet some plays and waste some money!


Title: Re: Help? Real LIVE Betting on NFL Games with Bitcoin?
Post by: betonnfl on September 14, 2014, 06:46:07 PM
I should note that I do see the types of live betting I'm looking for on CloudBet for OTHER sports.  They just come up on the Live Sports main page.


Title: Re: Help? Real LIVE Betting on NFL Games with Bitcoin?
Post by: BetMoose on September 14, 2014, 07:56:17 PM
You're welcome over at https://www.betmoose.com

We have live betting and many of our hosts have created nfl bets already (if you don't find something, make it yourself!), you can also place lay bets if you think you can offer better odds. Check it out and please give us feedback as we're constantly updating the site!


Title: Re: Help? Real LIVE Betting on NFL Games with Bitcoin?
Post by: betonnfl on September 15, 2014, 06:56:16 PM
You're welcome over at https://www.betmoose.com

We have live betting and many of our hosts have created nfl bets already (if you don't find something, make it yourself!), you can also place lay bets if you think you can offer better odds. Check it out and please give us feedback as we're constantly updating the site!

Interesting idea.  Biggest issue I see is the time frame of the bet.  Some of these last a few minutes at most. Wonder how much volume I would get.


Title: Re: Help? Real LIVE Betting on NFL Games with Bitcoin?
Post by: casinobitco on September 15, 2014, 06:58:22 PM
CasinoBitco.in has live betting for NFL... we've also been around for over a year and a half - worth checking out, feel free to ping support if you need any help.

https://www.casinobitco.in/sportsbook/nfl-live


Title: Re: Help? Real LIVE Betting on NFL Games with Bitcoin?
Post by: koshgel on September 15, 2014, 07:07:12 PM
Bovada has an insane number of live play options. I don't think I've seen anything to that extent with a bitcoin book.



Title: Re: Help? Real LIVE Betting on NFL Games with Bitcoin?
Post by: betonnfl on September 15, 2014, 07:26:59 PM
CasinoBitco.in has live betting for NFL... we've also been around for over a year and a half - worth checking out, feel free to ping support if you need any help.

https://www.casinobitco.in/sportsbook/nfl-live


Sweet!  Did you have live NFL plays on Sunday?  I remember checking your site multiple times but the NFL section was closed (grayed out).

I'll be checking this out for tonight's game!

What sort of live play bets do you offer?

Bovada has an insane number of live play options. I don't think I've seen anything to that extent with a bitcoin book.


Yeah Bovada does have an awesome amount of live bet options.  It's a shame that I'm having so much trouble finding a Bitcoin Book to even come close.  With all of the Bitcoin based casinos around you'd think someone would be pushing into this space.  Have you found anyone anywhere near the level of Bovada?


Title: Re: Help? Real LIVE Betting on NFL Games with Bitcoin?
Post by: koshgel on September 15, 2014, 07:33:38 PM
Yeah Bovada does have an awesome amount of live bet options.  It's a shame that I'm having so much trouble finding a Bitcoin Book to even come close.  With all of the Bitcoin based casinos around you'd think someone would be pushing into this space.  Have you found anyone anywhere near the level of Bovada?

Unfortunately, I haven't. The only live play books I use are DirectBet (not live betting in the sense that spreads updates) and Nitrogensports which has an exchange.

I have yet to find live props like Bovada has where you can predict if the drive will be a TD, FG, etc.

Maybe if there's enough demand one of these books will implement it.


Title: Re: Help? Real LIVE Betting on NFL Games with Bitcoin?
Post by: BetMoose on September 15, 2014, 07:38:01 PM
You're welcome over at https://www.betmoose.com

We have live betting and many of our hosts have created nfl bets already (if you don't find something, make it yourself!), you can also place lay bets if you think you can offer better odds. Check it out and please give us feedback as we're constantly updating the site!

Interesting idea.  Biggest issue I see is the time frame of the bet.  Some of these last a few minutes at most. Wonder how much volume I would get.

You can create the event ahead of time, then modify odds live while the game/event is ongoing.

BetMoose is relatively new, but it's free to create, so try it out. If you have someone specifically you're looking to bet with, then there's your guaranteed market with no spread (we take 2-3% depending if you're hosting or betting). Otherwise hopefully one of our users is also interested. Either way come join us we're nice :)

I have yet to find live props like Bovada has where you can predict if the drive will be a TD, FG, etc.

You can set this up on BetMoose yourself, it's an exchange. The demand will come from users looking for it so if you start your TD, FG markets and ever find someone looking for it, you can easily direct them straight to your profile so they can see all of the markets available.


Title: Re: Help? Real LIVE Betting on NFL Games with Bitcoin?
Post by: casinobitco on September 15, 2014, 07:39:16 PM
We had all the games open on Sunday, and yes - tonight we will be supporting in-game money line bets throughout the Monday Night Game.

CasinoBitco.in has live betting for NFL... we've also been around for over a year and a half - worth checking out, feel free to ping support if you need any help.

https://www.casinobitco.in/sportsbook/nfl-live


Sweet!  Did you have live NFL plays on Sunday?  I remember checking your site multiple times but the NFL section was closed (grayed out).

I'll be checking this out for tonight's game!

What sort of live play bets do you offer?

Bovada has an insane number of live play options. I don't think I've seen anything to that extent with a bitcoin book.


Yeah Bovada does have an awesome amount of live bet options.  It's a shame that I'm having so much trouble finding a Bitcoin Book to even come close.  With all of the Bitcoin based casinos around you'd think someone would be pushing into this space.  Have you found anyone anywhere near the level of Bovada?


Title: Re: Help? Real LIVE Betting on NFL Games with Bitcoin?
Post by: Rating Place on September 16, 2014, 06:45:57 PM
Hey All,

I'm growing increasingly frustrated.  I've been a long-term Bitcoin users, blah blah blah.

But I've also been a long-term user of Bovada, they have Live Betting on tons of sports, and I'm looking for something like what Bovada offers but with Bitcoin.

I want to be able to bet on live money lines during a game (as they update), but I also want to be able to bet on individual plays and drives, things like:  Will this drive result in (A) Touchdown (B) Turn Over (C) Field Goal.  Will this throw be Complete or Incomplete, etc, etc, etc.

I've tried CloudBet, they have a "Live Sports" section but it doesn't seem to work.  A game will be listed in the "Live" section, and then promptly disappear after the game starts.  Even if you save the URL for that game it never updates.  And I've only ever seen money lines as a bet option.  CloudBet "looks" nice (decent looking UI, etc), but I have no idea how the hell you actually bet live if you really can.  At this point, I'm thinking you can't, at least not for NFL games.

Betcoin never seems to have NFL at all for Live Betting, and I've only ever seen money lines.

I've looked at DirectBet and while their site is terrible from a UI perspective, the "live" betting is only money lines.

Nitrogen doesn't seem to have live betting at all.

Anonibet has live betting, tons of different types of bets, but not play-by-play, only updated things like handicap, quarters, races to points, etc.

I know there are tons of European Sports and those are common for Sportsbooks, but come on it's the NFL, and it's week 2...SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

So I'm guessing I'm doing something wrong, looking in the wrong place...something?  CloudBet lists the games before they start, but then I can't seem to find them afterwards, but the fact that they list them really makes me feel like they might have what I'm after...am I wrong?

Any help would be appreciated.  I just want to bet some plays and waste some money!


My findings were similar to yours. No bitcoin book had play by play Sunday.


Anonibet and BetVIP have almost the same live betting options as they have pregame. Some of the offers are ML, spread, alt spread, total, alt total, team totals, team to score next, race to, odd/even and line for the following quarter.

Betcoinsports and Casinobitcoin also offer spreads. For the most part, the hold is a little better for the player at Betcoinsports than Casinobitcoin.


Title: Re: Help? Real LIVE Betting on NFL Games with Bitcoin?
Post by: dbasql on October 12, 2014, 06:13:26 PM
I agree with all this. The first sportsbook to get the live betting done correctly will be the #1 option no doubt.
It can't be just huge money lines. It has to be taking and giving points during the game with line changes.
Once that is done the other options that are mentioned above would be a bonus.

Direct bet has a good idea but trying to use it and actually get a play in is almost impossible.
Anonibet has the best interface so far but they don't have enough games.