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Title: Police break down door without warning, cop gets shot. Man faces death penalty.
Post by: oprahwindfury on September 14, 2014, 11:31:45 PM
http://www.kwtx.com/ourtown/home/headlines/Killeen--Prosecutor-Will-Seek-Death-Penalty-In-Police-Officers-Death-274000421.html (http://www.kwtx.com/ourtown/home/headlines/Killeen--Prosecutor-Will-Seek-Death-Penalty-In-Police-Officers-Death-274000421.html)

They never found drugs or anything incriminating at the man's house. This was a "no-knock" raid where police don't identify themselves or provide any warning that they are about to knock down your house with guns drawn and tear gas thrown. Hundreds of these are conducted yearly. Don't they figure by now that breaking down someone's door at 5 am in the morning without identifying yourself as POLICE is a bad idea? Now that someone got shot, the poor guy who was just trying to defend himself and his property will be facing the death penalty.

U.S.A, land of the "free".


Title: Re: Police break down door without warning, cop gets shot. Man faces death penalty.
Post by: Devance on September 15, 2014, 12:21:25 AM
If they are doing that on my home I probably could do the same. They can be real police or pretending to be police who knows.


Title: Re: Police break down door without warning, cop gets shot. Man faces death penalty.
Post by: Lethn on September 15, 2014, 12:25:48 AM
This is the kind of thing that starts civil wars and revolutions.


Title: Re: Police break down door without warning, cop gets shot. Man faces death penalty.
Post by: Vod on September 15, 2014, 12:25:52 AM
If they are doing that on my home I probably could do the same. They can be real police or pretending to be police who knows.

+1

I think I'd have a pretty good chance of winning the case too.  People barging into your house at 5am?  I'd shoot first as well.


Title: Re: Police break down door without warning, cop gets shot. Man faces death penalty.
Post by: bitgeek on September 15, 2014, 01:29:01 AM
If they are doing that on my home I probably could do the same. They can be real police or pretending to be police who knows.

+1

I think I'd have a pretty good chance of winning the case too.  People barging into your house at 5am?  I'd shoot first as well.
If they start doing this in Europe people won't even have anything to shoot with.


Title: Re: Police break down door without warning, cop gets shot. Man faces death penalty.
Post by: TheButterZone on September 15, 2014, 01:52:02 AM
Act like organized criminals, get shot like organized criminals.


Title: Re: Police break down door without warning, cop gets shot. Man faces death penalty.
Post by: Rassah on September 15, 2014, 02:34:20 AM
Black guy, and in Texas? Well he's fucked  :P


Title: Re: Police break down door without warning, cop gets shot. Man faces death penalty.
Post by: Gleb Gamow on September 15, 2014, 02:49:43 AM
Black guy, and in Texas? Well he's fucked  :P

You wait till Al and Jesse get to that Texas town, you'll see... What the fuck am I penning?


Title: Re: Police break down door without warning, cop gets shot. Man faces death penalty.
Post by: chalidore on September 15, 2014, 10:08:44 AM
Act like organized criminals, get shot like organized criminals.

So true, I don't think guy will get sentenced though


Title: Re: Police break down door without warning, cop gets shot. Man faces death penalty.
Post by: Dexter44 on September 15, 2014, 12:17:30 PM
Police should always identify themselves.


Title: Re: Police break down door without warning, cop gets shot. Man faces death penalty.
Post by: Mr Tea on September 15, 2014, 12:56:47 PM
Police should always identify themselves.

What about criminals who pretend to be police? They should just wait for them to leave and get them as they're coming out rather than this way.


Title: Re: Police break down door without warning, cop gets shot. Man faces death penalty.
Post by: Decksperiment on September 15, 2014, 02:35:31 PM
If they are doing that on my home I probably could do the same. They can be real police or pretending to be police who knows.

+1

I think I'd have a pretty good chance of winning the case too.  People barging into your house at 5am?  I'd shoot first as well.
If they start doing this in Europe people won't even have anything to shoot with.

So we chop them up, or make microwave guns from microwave ovens.. radiate their brains lol..


Title: Re: Police break down door without warning, cop gets shot. Man faces death penalty.
Post by: spazzdla on September 15, 2014, 05:06:03 PM
This is the kind of thing that starts civil wars and revolutions.

Not any more.. your means to wage one has been taken form you...

The entire idea of your country was to never late that happen and then.... everyone got scared of some fake video on the telly.  They'd kill 90% of you to ensure the other 10% put the shackles on.


Title: Re: Police break down door without warning, cop gets shot. Man faces death penalty.
Post by: Rassah on September 15, 2014, 11:57:00 PM
If you read further into this story the guy had drug paraphenelia and was linked to an informant. This is not an innocent man just doing his daily thing when Cops mistakenly broke his door down.

If you read more, the drug paraphernalia was a "glass tube" that could be used to take drugs - it doesn't say if this was a crack pipe or a bong, and could just be a glass tube - and it says they did the raid based on informant's information only, without bothering to corroborate or investigate the informant's story further, and informants are often forced to give up information under pressure, with promises that they will get some leniency in their sentencing, so they lie just to give the cops anything.


Title: Re: Police break down door without warning, cop gets shot. Man faces death penalty.
Post by: koshgel on September 16, 2014, 12:01:37 AM
It's not legal to do what he did? How are you supposed to know they are police if there is no warrant or badges shown?

Is there more detail to the story?


Title: Re: Police break down door without warning, cop gets shot. Man faces death penalty.
Post by: s1lverbox on September 16, 2014, 12:02:18 AM
When acting like criminal,risk is you will be treated like criminal.

So if i was in home owner shoes-first shoot and than asking questions.

No one ever asked them to come without invitation.
In europe is similar but with this difference we haven't got guns. But once you in my house and doors will close behind you first is the beating and than is questioning.


Title: Re: Police break down door without warning, cop gets shot. Man faces death penalty.
Post by: BCwinning on September 16, 2014, 12:08:01 AM
your guilty until you prove your innocence is the way things have been done for a few decades now.


Title: Re: Police break down door without warning, cop gets shot. Man faces death penalty.
Post by: Nobitcoin on September 16, 2014, 03:20:37 AM
If the police didn't provide a warning or proof then surely it's the police's fault?


Title: Re: Police break down door without warning, cop gets shot. Man faces death penalty.
Post by: Lethn on September 16, 2014, 03:43:13 AM
If the police didn't provide a warning or proof then surely it's the police's fault?

Can't be, the state is right about everything, even when they're wrong.


Title: Re: Police break down door without warning, cop gets shot. Man faces death penalty.
Post by: Gleb Gamow on September 16, 2014, 08:07:46 AM
If the police didn't provide a warning or proof then surely it's the police's fault?

Can't be, the state is right about everything, even when they're wrong.

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