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Title: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: BreakoutCoin on September 15, 2014, 05:53:16 PM
Please go to the Breakout Chain Thread Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1509819.msg15185942#msg15185942)

Brief Backstory

The thread below is the thread for a coin called "Brocoin" commissioned by "Breakout Coin", a coin company. Brocoin was never implemented, due to lack of funds. The original developer , Jay Berg,  was a hired consultant, and we were not able to keep him full-time. Jay moved on to a new exciting project,  Protoblock.com.

The Breakout Coin project hired a new developer, James Stroud, who completed a ground breaking coin, called "Breakout Chain", with help from, and features inspired by Jay's "Bergstake". Breakout Chain not only has a innovative staking mechanism, but is also a Proof-of-Work chain with many novel existing and planned features. Breakout Chain's features are designed to complement Breakout Coin's business model of seeding mass adoption by providing promotional funds to promising businesses.

You can read more at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1509819.msg15185942#msg15185942, and the Breakout Coin website (http://www.breakoutcoin.com).







****EDIT*** Thread Closed as of

Here is our announcement thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=808648.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=808648.0)

And Website

http://www.breakoutcoin.com/ (http://www.breakoutcoin.com/)

Enjoy and thanks for your patience!
UPDATE
Breakout Initial Coin Offering begins in
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http://www.pending.me.uk/cd/bla_1413849600.png

Please Visit Our Website For More Information
http://www.breakoutcoin.com/
 (http://www.breakoutcoin.com/)


Please continue conversation on Announcement thread.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=808648.msg9061286#msg9061286
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=808648.msg9061286#msg9061286)


http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/1_Top_BergBlog.jpg
Break out of the endless cycle of cryptocurrencies that promise one
thing then deliver another. Breakout Coin will be the only accepted token for use on the upcoming,
industry-leading Breakout Gaming Platform, which will also feature a built-in Breakout Coin
exchange where players will be able to trade Breakout Coin for bitcoin at their leisure.
Every player on the Breakout Gaming platform is a liquidity provider for the Breakout Coin
network. The ~$40 billion USD online gaming industry is ripe for a cryptocurrency breakthrough
and we are leading the charge.


For information regarding our Initial Offering,
please subscribe to our website.


Website: http://www.breakoutgaming.com (http://www.breakoutgaming.com)
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/breakoutandwin (http://www.facebook.com/breakoutandwin)
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/breakoutgaming (http://www.twitter.com/breakoutgaming)
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/3_Mid_TechnicalDetails.jpg

What Makes Breakout Coin Unique?

As a company, Breakout Gaming has focused its energy on creating a real, live, and useful gaming platform that brings a “killer-app” to Breakout Coin. As a cryptocurrency, Breakout Coin features Bergstake, fulfilling the promise of Proof-of-Stake efficiency.

When Can I Get Breakout Coin?

There will be an announcement thread around Sept 20th to detail the Breakout Coin initial offering. The purchase window is tentatively scheduled for Oct 4- Oct 18.

Where Can I Purchase Breakout Coin?

Breakout Coin is a decentralized digital currency. For its launch, Breakout Gaming will be hosting a Breakout Coin Initial Offering Sale at the Breakout Coin fundraising website: [url protected]. Once the Breakout Gaming Platform is fully functioning, Breakout Gaming will also feature a Breakout Exchange where players can instantly move into and out of Breakout Coin.

Where Should I Use Breakout Coin?

Breakout Gaming uses Breakout Coin exclusively. Gamers worldwide will be playing on the Breakout Gaming platform. This will create a continuous source of liquidity for Breakout Coin, a never-before-seen feature in previous altcoins.
   
How Does it work?

Breakout Coin’s unique hybrid block-chain will have a PoW phase followed by a “Proof-of-Bergstake” phase, a new kind of PoS. Making BRO the most advanced PoW /PoS hybrid in existence. The reason for our emulation of CryptoNight’s PoW mechanism is to live up to Satoshi Nakamoto’s original vision of CPU mining. In order for our Bergstake based consensus to work, its initial distribution must be as fair as possible. It needs to be easy and worthwhile for the average user to mine on her home computer and generate her own Bergstake.

http://bro.breakoutgaming.com/
BreakoutGamingPR.pdf (http://bro.breakoutgaming.com/BreakoutGamingPR.pdf)

http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/4_Mid_WhoIsBehind.jpg

NEXT GENERATION PRIVACY FEATURES

Anonymous Transactions
Breakout Coin offers the option to use CryptoNote’s ring signatures and one-time addresses for untraceable and unlinkable transactions.
 
Anonymous Stealth Addresses
Through Breakout Coin's wallet, users can choose to make their transactions untraceable.  Stealth is achieved when one-time addresses create a symmetrical key between the sending and receiving parties that verifies the transfer but cannot be tied to other transactions.

ABOUT BERGSTAKE

Breakoutcoin with Bergstake
Bitcoin’s main innovation was the use of a block-chain ledger to reach distributed consensus. Before Bitcoin, the idea of a public ledger of transactions without a central authority seemed impossible. One bad actor can “double-spend” by sending the same coin to multiple parties at the same time. This will cause the ledger to fork into two separate versions. This is solved by putting all recent transactions into a block, and attaching a “proof-of-work”. Once a block is produced and broadcasted to the network, all parties now have the time-order of the transactions, so only one of the “double-spend” transactions will be valid.

Proof-of-Work
The Bitcoin proof-of-work is a solution to a “one-way-function”, SHA256. It's a computation that is difficult to solve, yet once you have the solution it is easily verifiable. Bitcoin miners use a brut-force method of trying trillions of possible solutions until one is found. Once found, the miners will create a block containing all public transactions, the proof-of-work solution, and a special generation ”coinbase” transaction. The coinbase transaction allows miners to assign a certain number of coins to themselves. This “block-reward” acts as an incentive for miners, and helps secure the network.  

Proof-of-Work problems
Bitcoin dynamically adjusts the mining difficulty to target 10 minutes between blocks. As more miners add more processing power, the difficulty increases. Currently, the processing power of the Bitcoin network is 210 million GH/s. The total energy usage is at least 1400 GWh/yr, enough to run a small country, and growing. The proof-of-work computations have no scientific or practical purpose, and are deliberately made hard to prevent attackers from overpowering the network. This waste of energy and the staggering costs involved is one of the major flaws in Bitcoin. An alternative way to secure the network and reach distributed consensus is needed.

Proof-of-Stake solution
Proof-of-stake is an energy efficient alternative to proof-of-work mining. The mechanism that determines who gets to sign the next block is based on the amount of stake, or coins, you hold. So someone who own 1% of all coins has a 1% chance of signing the next block, and receiving the block reward. An obvious problem is, if new coins are generated for each block, then the first coin holders will receive all future coins. This is in fact the case, and is why “pure” proof-of-stake coins,  such as NXT, are 100% pre-mined. In NXT, all coins are created from the beginning with the intent of distributing the coins to as many different people as possible. Another solution, first seen in Peercoin, is to use a proof-of-work / proof-of-stake hybrid approach. There, initial coin distribution is accomplished with normal proof-of-work, and a switch to proof-of-stake is made after a pre-determined number of blocks.

Proof-of-Stake problems
Nothing at stake
A fork in the block-chain is when there are multiple valid signers of the same block. In Bitcoin, when two miners simultaneously solve the same proof-of-work, a fork occurs. When presented with an alternative fork, a bitcoin miner must chose which chain to mine against. Due to the cost of mining and the risk of a missed opportunity, miners will always chose the “correct” chain, and ignore the rest. However with proof-of-stake, miners can easily mine multiple chains without any costs or risks.  At the time of a fork there is a good chance that either chain can win, so even an honest miner will process and sign block from both chains.

Stake grinding
Proof-of-stake block-chains use algorithms that are meant to randomly select the next valid block-signers. Holders of coins with specific public-keys win the right to sign the next block. However, this “random” algorithm can be gamed, because it is still based only on data contained in the block-chain. The technique, known as “costless simulation” or “stake-grinding”, entails “mining” of the block data until it produces a hash that gives your key the right to sign the next block.

Breakoutcoin with Bergstake solution
Breakoutcoin uses the Bergstake hybrid approach.  A proof-of-work block-chain is used for the first two years. After two years there is a switch to a proof-of-stake block-chain. In the proof-of-work phase, miners receive special Bergstake in addition to breakout coins as a reward for signing a block. Bergstake represents the right to sign future blocks during the proof-of-stake phase.  Bergstake differs from typical coins in that Bergstake is non-transferable and lasts forever .

Bergstake can be thought of as a “virtual perpetual mining rig”. The virtual rig gets built by miners during the proof-of-work phase, as they sign blocks.  Those same miners can then “turn on” their Bergstake virtual mining rigs to continue signing blocks in the proof-of-stake phase.

The breakout block-chain has knowledge of alternative forks. This enables any user to provide a “proof-of-double-mining” transaction on the block-chain. This proof that a dishonest miner was mining on multiple chains, will destroy her bergstake.  The risk of losing bergstake and potential future block rewards is incentive to mine on only the “real” chain.  This core feature fixes the “nothing-at-stake” flaw in proof-of-stake block-chains.

The Breakoutcoin block signer selection algorithm uses only the hash of the previous two signers as input. Stake grinding exploits are mitigated by the fact that all Bergstake ids are known in advance and new Bergstake cannot be generated from existing Bergstake.


http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/7_SneakPeekBottomHorizontal.png


UPDATE
Breakout Initial Coin Offering begins in

http://www.pending.me.uk/cd/bla_1413849600.png

Please Visit Our Website For More Information
http://www.breakoutcoin.com/
 (http://www.breakoutcoin.com/)


Please continue conversation on Announcement thread.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=808648.msg9061286#msg9061286
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=808648.msg9061286#msg9061286)



Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: DeShack96 on September 15, 2014, 05:55:16 PM
You should fix the text formatting, so people can actually read it normally. :)


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: raizor on September 15, 2014, 05:56:11 PM
man, if only they had a 'preview post' button :P


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: JakeThePanda on September 15, 2014, 05:57:01 PM
3rd

Boom!  I've been waiting for something like this for years.  Did you post on 2+2?


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: bttshenxian on September 15, 2014, 05:57:28 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=783598.0


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: JakeThePanda on September 15, 2014, 05:59:46 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=783598.0

Haha, if true, do you understand who is backing this coin? LOLz at you.  These guys have enough money to take this coin to the top 10 without a flinch.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: BreakoutCoin on September 15, 2014, 06:00:50 PM
man, if only they had a 'preview post' button :P

The preview is diff than the result. bitcointalk forum should update software version.

see: http://www.breakoutcoin.com/SMF/index.php?topic=6.0


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: ofortuna on September 15, 2014, 06:08:05 PM
The formatting was fixed very quickly  ;D


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: originalchilli on September 15, 2014, 06:08:31 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=783598.0

Haha, if true, do you understand who is backing this coin? LOLz at you.  These guys have enough money to take this coin to the top 10 without a flinch.

Johnny f'ckin Chan!


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: SalimNagamato on September 15, 2014, 06:11:37 PM
i didnt even read OP
let me guess
Premine ? or heavy insta-mine ?


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: MsCollec on September 15, 2014, 06:12:09 PM
Where's the ICO anthem  ???


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: JakeThePanda on September 15, 2014, 06:14:13 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=783598.0

Haha, if true, do you understand who is backing this coin? LOLz at you.  These guys have enough money to take this coin to the top 10 without a flinch.

Johnny f'ckin Chan!

It remains to be seen if these guys really are backing this coin.  I would like to see some evidence. I may troll the 2+2 forums looking for answers.   I will let the thread know the results of the investigation.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: Mr.Silver on September 15, 2014, 06:14:34 PM
You should fix the text formatting, so people can actually read it normally. :)

yea, is hard to read


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on September 15, 2014, 06:16:38 PM
i didnt even read OP
let me guess
Premine ? or heavy insta-mine ?

small pre-mine.  

first coin to use Bergstake - a Proof-of-Stake algorithm.

its CryptoNote , PoW for 2 years, with CryptoNight based hashing algo

then changes to Bergstake, a pure Proof-of-Stake algorithm, that solves all the known PoS issues.



Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: JakeThePanda on September 15, 2014, 06:20:22 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=783598.0

Haha, if true, do you understand who is backing this coin? LOLz at you.  These guys have enough money to take this coin to the top 10 without a flinch.

Johnny f'ckin Chan!

It remains to be seen if these guys really are backing this coin.  I would like to see some evidence. I may troll the 2+2 forums looking for answers.   I will let the thread know the results of the investigation.

Ok, so if this is at all serious, there should be a thread on the 2+2 poker forums.  My initial search comes up empty.  Almost every one of the backers have 2+2 accounts and they would be pointed to the thread within minutes. 


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on September 15, 2014, 06:21:49 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=783598.0




Haha, if true, do you understand who is backing this coin? LOLz at you.  These guys have enough money to take this coin to the top 10 without a flinch.

Johnny f'ckin Chan!

It remains to be seen if these guys really are backing this coin.  I would like to see some evidence. I may troll the 2+2 forums looking for answers.   I will let the thread know the results of the investigation.

https://scontent-2.2914.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10649721_263731710487197_8273282202226540644_n.jpg?oh=ac37e4f443c9635fb42264968d21bf87&oe=548B309E


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: SalimNagamato on September 15, 2014, 06:23:13 PM
can mine with CPU ?
i am not up to date, is there open source GPU miner yet ?

i didnt even read OP
let me guess
Premine ? or heavy insta-mine ?

small pre-mine.  

first coin to use Bergstake - a Proof-of-Stake algorithm.

its CryptoNote , PoW for 2 years, with CryptoNight based hashing algo

then changes to Bergstake, a pure Proof-of-Stake algorithm, that solves all the known PoS issues.




Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: JakeThePanda on September 15, 2014, 06:24:11 PM

 8) All-IN



Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: drippx on September 15, 2014, 06:25:05 PM
why are there real professional pokerstars backing this? lol is this a joke


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on September 15, 2014, 06:28:29 PM
can mine with CPU ?
i am not up to date, is there open source GPU miner yet ?

i didnt even read OP
let me guess
Premine ? or heavy insta-mine ?

small pre-mine.  

first coin to use Bergstake - a Proof-of-Stake algorithm.

its CryptoNote , PoW for 2 years, with CryptoNight based hashing algo

then changes to Bergstake, a pure Proof-of-Stake algorithm, that solves all the known PoS issues.



CrytpoNote = CPU mining. Its supposed to be GPU resistant, in that GPU is not much faster then CPU. but for those who already have many GPUs, I believe there is an open source miner.



Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: ofortuna on September 15, 2014, 06:28:57 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=783598.0

Haha, if true, do you understand who is backing this coin? LOLz at you.  These guys have enough money to take this coin to the top 10 without a flinch.

Johnny f'ckin Chan!

It remains to be seen if these guys really are backing this coin.  I would like to see some evidence. I may troll the 2+2 forums looking for answers.   I will let the thread know the results of the investigation.

Ok, so if this is at all serious, there should be a thread on the 2+2 poker forums.  My initial search comes up empty.  Almost every one of the backers have 2+2 accounts and they would be pointed to the thread within minutes. 


We are just releasing the Press Release now.  We've talked to Sklansky (both Sr & Jr) about starting our own forum on 2+2 but decided to wait until we launch.

You can check out our:

Facebook: www.facebook.com/breakoutandwin
Twitter: www.twitter.com/BreakoutGaming


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: BreakoutCoin on September 15, 2014, 06:30:56 PM
can mine with CPU ?
i am not up to date, is there open source GPU miner yet ?

i didnt even read OP
let me guess
Premine ? or heavy insta-mine ?

small pre-mine.  

first coin to use Bergstake - a Proof-of-Stake algorithm.

its CryptoNote , PoW for 2 years, with CryptoNight based hashing algo

then changes to Bergstake, a pure Proof-of-Stake algorithm, that solves all the known PoS issues.



CrytpoNote = CPU mining. Its supposed to be GPU resistant, in that GPU is not much faster then CPU. but for those who already have many GPUs, I believe there is an open source miner.



We will be testing all open-source miners and will develop new CPU and GPU miners, if needed.



Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on September 15, 2014, 06:40:51 PM
why are there real professional pokerstars backing this? lol is this a joke

I think they are backing breakout gaming, and breakout gaming is funding the coin development.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: JakeThePanda on September 15, 2014, 06:49:24 PM



We are just releasing the Press Release now.  We've talked to Sklansky (both Sr & Jr) about starting our own forum on 2+2 but decided to wait until we launch.

You can check out our:

Facebook: www.facebook.com/breakoutandwin
Twitter: www.twitter.com/BreakoutGaming


Thanks. I will look out for it.

Hopefully you guys aren't the same team that developed Infiniti poker.  What a disaster.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: BreakoutGaming on September 15, 2014, 07:07:39 PM



We are just releasing the Press Release now.  We've talked to Sklansky (both Sr & Jr) about starting our own forum on 2+2 but decided to wait until we launch.

You can check out our:

Facebook: www.facebook.com/breakoutandwin
Twitter: www.twitter.com/BreakoutGaming


Thanks. I will look out for it.

Hopefully you guys aren't the same team that developed Infiniti poker.  What a disaster.

Thanks everyone for all your supporting posts.  FYI, Infiniti poker is not in the same league as Breakout Gaming.  We intend to compete on a global scale.  We will have all the major Daily Fantasy Pro Sports, a new Fantasy eSports (DOTA2 and LOL), and a Fantasy "CRYPTO" game that will allow alternate coin investors to now use their skills/knowledge of coins against one another.  The World-Class Poker Celebrities we have assembled is one of the most formidable team ever.  More information will roll out through Press Releases or on this forum.  Thanks.

Onwards,

Billy


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: gutshot5820 on September 15, 2014, 07:20:48 PM
this sounds awesome.  when is the launch?


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: BreakoutCoin on September 15, 2014, 07:21:24 PM
Where's the ICO anthem  ???

ICO (Initial Coin Offering) details coming soon.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: thefix on September 15, 2014, 07:23:39 PM
Great idea, waiting for more info


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: BreakoutCoin on September 15, 2014, 07:27:25 PM
this sounds awesome.  when is the launch?
There will be an announcement thread around Sept 20th to detail the Breakout Coin initial offering. The purchase window is tentatively scheduled for Oct 4- Oct 18

Coin launch, POW phase, will start shortly after ICO window closes, around Oct 18th. 


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: Smokeymar on September 15, 2014, 07:32:43 PM
this sounds awesome.  when is the launch?
There will be an announcement thread around Sept 20th to detail the Breakout Coin initial offering. The purchase window is tentatively scheduled for Oct 4- Oct 18

Coin launch, POW phase, will start shortly after ICO window closes, around Oct 18th. 

When will the gaming platform launch?  Specifically, the poker room?


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: Koko on September 15, 2014, 07:37:03 PM
Nice to see something with some real support behind it. I think this has potential, I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: JakeThePanda on September 15, 2014, 07:39:32 PM
At least spell Jennifer Harman's name correctly. ::)


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: BreakoutGaming on September 15, 2014, 07:40:29 PM
this sounds awesome.  when is the launch?
There will be an announcement thread around Sept 20th to detail the Breakout Coin initial offering. The purchase window is tentatively scheduled for Oct 4- Oct 18

Coin launch, POW phase, will start shortly after ICO window closes, around Oct 18th.  

When will the gaming platform launch?  Specifically, the poker room?

The gaming platform will launch at the same time as the coin.  However, games will "roll out" in turn.  Poker should be available in October.  Beta testing will be available for select people who register and provide feedback on our forum @forum.breakoutcoin.com.  We will also be offering free coins for beta testers who provide constructive criticism and feedback in order for us to present a better product to our users.  Thanks.



Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: BreakoutGaming on September 15, 2014, 07:47:34 PM
At least spell Jennifer Harman's name correctly. ::)

Thanks for pointing that out.  Kudos to you Jake, you are a true poker fan!!  Copywriters need to get spanked.  At least they got it right in the Press Release.  :) We will get that fixed shortly.



Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: JakeThePanda on September 15, 2014, 07:51:43 PM
At least spell Jennifer Harman's name correctly. ::)

Thanks for pointing that out.  Kudos to you Jake, you are a true poker fan!!  Copywriters need to get spanked.  At least they got it right in the Press Release.  :) We will get that fixed shortly.

Onwards,

Billy

Well, let's just hope David Benyamine will be playing nosebleed stakes like he used to back in the Full Tilt Poker glory days.  That would put Breakoutcoin on the map instantly. He would have to buy 1mm worth Breakoutcoins at a time.  :D

This is the point where I should just  :-X


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: BreakoutGaming on September 15, 2014, 08:06:53 PM
At least spell Jennifer Harman's name correctly. ::)

Thanks for pointing that out.  Kudos to you Jake, you are a true poker fan!!  Copywriters need to get spanked.  At least they got it right in the Press Release.  :) We will get that fixed shortly.

Onwards,

Billy

Well, let's just hope David Benyamine will be playing nosebleed stakes like he used to back in the Full Tilt Poker glory days.  That would put Breakoutcoin on the map instantly. He would have to buy 1mm worth Breakoutcoins at a time.  :D

This is the point where I should just  :-X

Nosebleed stakes...we should have those available if you want to play? Seriously, with the amount of marketing and traffic we expect from all our games, there will be a huge demand for the coin. We built our own "Exchange," so it will be an all-in-one process to trade any crypto coins on our exchange into Breakout Coins and back.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: JakeThePanda on September 15, 2014, 08:16:50 PM
So, Mat Sklansky just PMd me back saying you guys did inquire about advertising on 2+2.  So that checks out.  ;D


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: CTRLX on September 15, 2014, 08:19:12 PM
interesting stuff, following


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: BreakoutGaming on September 15, 2014, 08:55:00 PM
interesting stuff, following

Thanks!


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: cryptovalues on September 15, 2014, 09:07:11 PM
is it going to be a coin for online poker or something?


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: BreakoutGaming on September 15, 2014, 09:24:03 PM
is it going to be a coin for online poker or something?

Breakout Coin is a decentralized crypto coin. 

Breakout Gaming will help support and market the coin by exclusively using BRO for all its games and products.

Traditional online gaming is a $40 Billion Dollar market.  Using our platform to capture a small share of that market will realize huge demand and liquidity for BRO.  But, BRO is not limited to our platform, and there will be development projects and ongoing expansion beyond our own platform.

The exchange itself will serve as a gateway to our games for the entire crypto coin community.  We will be regularly adding alternative coins to our exchange to provide this service.


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Post by: jw_industry on September 15, 2014, 10:02:01 PM
seems like a good idea!!!


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Post by: BreakoutGaming on September 15, 2014, 10:17:46 PM
seems like a good idea!!!

Thanks jw_industry!!


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Post by: jackfruit on September 15, 2014, 10:32:59 PM
Just leaving this here  :-*

https://twitter.com/CryptoCayce/status/511643273333460992

EDIT: If you dont know who Cayce is, he is Danny Johnson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwFELmZJC0E


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Post by: ofortuna on September 15, 2014, 11:04:27 PM
Just leaving this here  :-*

https://twitter.com/CryptoCayce/status/511643273333460992

EDIT: If you dont know who Cayce is, he is Danny Johnson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwFELmZJC0E

It's usually a good practice to ask someone who's opinion you respect but in this case you can just go to Jennifer Harman's twitter page:

https://twitter.com/REALJenHarman



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Post by: BreakoutGaming on September 15, 2014, 11:05:01 PM
Just leaving this here  :-*

https://twitter.com/CryptoCayce/status/511643273333460992

EDIT: If you dont know who Cayce is, he is Danny Johnson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwFELmZJC0E

Hello jackfruit.  Not sure who the pinkprophet is, never heard of him before.  Is he anyone important in the gaming industry?

In the upcoming days and weeks, there will be a steady roll-out of publications and news reports of BRO and the players backing the coin.  Please be patient as nobody is asking anyone to take a leap of faith until there is enough evidence and confirmation.  In the meantime, you are welcome to do some research on the actual player's Official Twitter and Facebook profiles, rather than second and third hand opinions.  We hope that in time, you will join the Breakout Revolution!!  Thanks.

Please follow our official social media pages for the latest information;

twitter.com/breakoutgaming
facebook.com/breakoutandwin
breakoutgaming.com


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Post by: jackfruit on September 15, 2014, 11:17:51 PM
Just leaving this here  :-*

https://twitter.com/CryptoCayce/status/511643273333460992

EDIT: If you dont know who Cayce is, he is Danny Johnson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwFELmZJC0E

Hello jackfruit.  Not sure who the pinkprophet is, never heard of him before.  Is he anyone important in the gaming industry?

In the upcoming days and weeks, there will be a steady roll-out of publications and news reports of BRO and the players backing the coin.  Please be patient as nobody is asking anyone to take a leap of faith until there is enough evidence and confirmation.  In the meantime, you are welcome to do some research on the actual player's Official Twitter and Facebook profiles, rather than second and third hand opinions.  We hope that in time, you will join the Breakout Revolution!!  Thanks.

Please follow our official social media pages for the latest information;

twitter.com/breakoutgaming
facebook.com/breakoutandwin
breakoutgaming.com


Not sure if you're serious when you say you don't know who Danny Johnson aka CryptoCayce is.


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Post by: cryptoholic11 on September 15, 2014, 11:24:19 PM
http://puu.sh/bAFsH/9142a3af9e.jpg http://puu.sh/bAFqL/b36acb2538.jpg

I was very skeptical of this, until I checked the official twitter pages of a few poker pros mentioned...

Bill, can you give the specs of this coin? How many coins in total and what would be the ICO price?


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Post by: BreakoutGaming on September 15, 2014, 11:37:00 PM
http://puu.sh/bAFsH/9142a3af9e.jpg http://puu.sh/bAFqL/b36acb2538.jpg

I was very skeptical of this, until I checked the official twitter pages of a few poker pros mentioned...

Bill, can you give the specs of this coin? How many coins in total and what would be the ICO price?

We are still in discussion of a fair distribution and the final announcement of coin details and ICO price will be on our official announcement page coming on Sept. 20-22.

In the meantime, we will be asking for feedback and suggestions as well as any constructive criticism on our breakout forum @forum.breakoutcoin.com.  There will be a bounty of 100 BRO for people who participate.  

Thanks for your interest and patience, we hope to have as much information as possible available in a short time.


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Post by: jackfruit on September 15, 2014, 11:38:17 PM
http://puu.sh/bAFsH/9142a3af9e.jpg http://puu.sh/bAFqL/b36acb2538.jpg

I was very skeptical of this, until I checked the official twitter pages of a few poker pros mentioned...

Bill, can you give the specs of this coin? How many coins in total and what would be the ICO price?

Thanks for this cryptoholic... I'll be watching.


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Post by: jackfruit on September 15, 2014, 11:40:29 PM
Just leaving this here  :-*

https://twitter.com/CryptoCayce/status/511643273333460992

EDIT: If you dont know who Cayce is, he is Danny Johnson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwFELmZJC0E

Hello jackfruit.  Not sure who the pinkprophet is, never heard of him before.  Is he anyone important in the gaming industry?

In the upcoming days and weeks, there will be a steady roll-out of publications and news reports of BRO and the players backing the coin.  Please be patient as nobody is asking anyone to take a leap of faith until there is enough evidence and confirmation.  In the meantime, you are welcome to do some research on the actual player's Official Twitter and Facebook profiles, rather than second and third hand opinions.  We hope that in time, you will join the Breakout Revolution!!  Thanks.

Please follow our official social media pages for the latest information;

twitter.com/breakoutgaming
facebook.com/breakoutandwin
breakoutgaming.com


I'm not sure why you're unaware of Danny Johnson if you're trying to marry poker with crypto... seems like he'd be someone you'd at least be aware of.


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Post by: cryptoholic11 on September 15, 2014, 11:47:30 PM
^^^+1


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Post by: BreakoutGaming on September 15, 2014, 11:47:44 PM
Just leaving this here  :-*

https://twitter.com/CryptoCayce/status/511643273333460992

EDIT: If you dont know who Cayce is, he is Danny Johnson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwFELmZJC0E

Hello jackfruit.  Not sure who the pinkprophet is, never heard of him before.  Is he anyone important in the gaming industry?

In the upcoming days and weeks, there will be a steady roll-out of publications and news reports of BRO and the players backing the coin.  Please be patient as nobody is asking anyone to take a leap of faith until there is enough evidence and confirmation.  In the meantime, you are welcome to do some research on the actual player's Official Twitter and Facebook profiles, rather than second and third hand opinions.  We hope that in time, you will join the Breakout Revolution!!  Thanks.

Please follow our official social media pages for the latest information;

twitter.com/breakoutgaming
facebook.com/breakoutandwin
breakoutgaming.com


I'm not sure why you're unaware of Danny Johnson if you're trying to marry poker with crypto... seems like he'd be someone you'd at least be aware of.

We'd love to get some feedback from him and others like yourself.  The crypto community definitely needs more awareness in the poker community as well as the general population and gaming is a perfect gateway to make this happen.


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Post by: jaybny on September 15, 2014, 11:51:56 PM
I'm not sure why you're unaware of Danny Johnson if you're trying to marry poker with crypto... seems like he'd be someone you'd at least be aware of.

interesting, does he have a coin? first ive heard of him.. been doing fantasy sports and crypto for a minute... some of us have been watching wsop since before moneymaker :)  nice to see a new character .. will be watching.


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Post by: InitialDat on September 15, 2014, 11:57:16 PM
Can you get Daniel Negreanu (my fav. poker player) to join? :)


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Post by: jackfruit on September 16, 2014, 12:00:57 AM
I'm not sure why you're unaware of Danny Johnson if you're trying to marry poker with crypto... seems like he'd be someone you'd at least be aware of.

interesting, does he have a coin? first ive heard of him.. been doing fantasy sports and crypto for a minute... some of us have been watching wsop since before moneymaker :)  nice to see a new character .. will be watching.

Yes, he is the person behind PINK coin, he's been in crypto for several months at least.


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Post by: cryptoholic11 on September 16, 2014, 12:04:27 AM
I'm not sure why you're unaware of Danny Johnson if you're trying to marry poker with crypto... seems like he'd be someone you'd at least be aware of.

interesting, does he have a coin? first ive heard of him.. been doing fantasy sports and crypto for a minute... some of us have been watching wsop since before moneymaker :)  nice to see a new character .. will be watching.

Yes, he is the person behind PINK coin, he's been in crypto for several months at least.

Im sure you guys have seen him in the 2012 coverage of the main event...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwFELmZJC0E


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Post by: jaybny on September 16, 2014, 12:14:30 AM
I'm not sure why you're unaware of Danny Johnson if you're trying to marry poker with crypto... seems like he'd be someone you'd at least be aware of.

interesting, does he have a coin? first ive heard of him.. been doing fantasy sports and crypto for a minute... some of us have been watching wsop since before moneymaker :)  nice to see a new character .. will be watching.


Yes, he is the person behind PINK coin, he's been in crypto for several months at least.

hard to keep up, been on this forum for over 3 years. this place really needs a redesign.. i dont know how anyone can read 2100 pages on each thread.

Im sure you guys have seen him in the 2012 coverage of the main event...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwFELmZJC0E
been a while since I actually watched poker... 


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Post by: Coingrab on September 16, 2014, 12:22:45 AM
This looks great. Deal me in!  ;D


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Post by: JakeThePanda on September 16, 2014, 12:30:44 AM
If you don't get involved with BRO you are a donkey. ;D


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Post by: ofortuna on September 16, 2014, 12:32:52 AM
I'm not sure why you're unaware of Danny Johnson if you're trying to marry poker with crypto... seems like he'd be someone you'd at least be aware of.

interesting, does he have a coin? first ive heard of him.. been doing fantasy sports and crypto for a minute... some of us have been watching wsop since before moneymaker :)  nice to see a new character .. will be watching.

Yes, he is the person behind PINK coin, he's been in crypto for several months at least.

Im sure you guys have seen him in the 2012 coverage of the main event...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwFELmZJC0E

Here's Ted Forrest winning a WSOP bracelet this year wearing an older version of our coin logo!

http://youtu.be/JXYfFfxVHfk


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Post by: ddeammbit on September 16, 2014, 12:39:10 AM
Purchase Breakout Coin?only this way?


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Post by: jaybny on September 16, 2014, 12:43:43 AM
Purchase Breakout Coin?only this way?

no, most of it will be distributed via mining


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Post by: jackfruit on September 16, 2014, 01:09:51 AM
Why are you deleting posts from the thread?

EDIT: I see why...there seems to have been another account spamming a btc address.  My question remains about the fake followers on your twitter account http://t.co/OMImD0qhN6


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Post by: jaybny on September 16, 2014, 01:11:11 AM
Please ignore all posts from "BreakoutCoins" .. can we get a mod to ban him? trying to scam. 

we are deleting all posts with the bitcoin address scam. please do not quote "breakoutcoins"


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Post by: drippx on September 16, 2014, 01:30:49 AM
Why are you deleting posts from the thread?

EDIT: I see why...there seems to have been a fake account spamming a btc address.  My question remains about the fake followers on your twitter account http://t.co/OMImD0qhN6

That, and also most all of the facebook likes are from people from thailand, I mean come on now


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Post by: cryptoholic11 on September 16, 2014, 01:42:50 AM
So "BreakoutCoin" is the real dev and "BreakoutCoins" (plural) is the scammer? I dont know what's going on here.


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Post by: BreakoutGaming on September 16, 2014, 01:46:10 AM
Why are you deleting posts from the thread?

EDIT: I see why...there seems to have been a fake account spamming a btc address.  My question remains about the fake followers on your twitter account http:/[Suspicious link removed]/OMImD0qhN6

That, and also most all of the facebook likes are from people from thailand, I mean come on now

Hey guys, understand your confusion and I'd like to address them squarely.  We hired a top publicist and Social Media firm to initiate our online presence.  Facebook was designed to reach out to people all over the world using Facebook ads and from there grow organically as we make announcements and press releases.  Our advertising was targeted at countries all over the World and specifically at regions where bitcoin was popular, eSports, and poker.  

Areas such as India and other Asian regions grew exponentially faster than USA/Europe and grew organically fairly rapidly.  Since then, we have dramatically cut down on these types of targeted ads.  With the announcement of our coin and platform, we aim to grow organically within the crypto community as well as poker and eSports fans all over the world.

Twitter, we haven't done any advertising or marketing at all since the account was created.  Twitter is a social conversation tool and we hope to gain traction once we go "live" and have our pro players involved.


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Post by: BreakoutCoin on September 16, 2014, 01:47:20 AM
So "BreakoutCoin" is the real dev and "BreakoutCoins" (plural) is the scammer? I dont know what's going on here.

yes. "breakoutcoins" on bitcointalk is a scammer.


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Post by: BreakoutGaming on September 16, 2014, 01:54:06 AM
This looks great. Deal me in!  ;D

Thanks for your support!


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Post by: gutshot5820 on September 16, 2014, 01:56:37 AM
if this is all true, it could be HUGE... count me in too.


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Post by: Gzesh on September 16, 2014, 01:58:40 AM
Hello,

I've been in the online gaming industry since 2001, most recently with a legal practice as igaming counsel, with a focus on learning about new cryptocurrency applications, including the coming 2.0 developments.

I got started working the convergence of igaming and cryptocurrency in late 2012, meetng some bitcoin early adopters, reviewing bitcoin gaming start-ups and giving a few talks on the topic, starting with Bitcoin2013. Since then I've been working with a number of regulatory and licensing jurisdictions to allow igaming companies to accept crypto currency for transactions and allow operators to offer play denominated in crypto currencies.

While there are a plethora of emerging crypto-currencies and even more crypto-gambling ventures, Breakout Coin presents a  new cryptocurrency specifically designed to meet both player privacy desires and regulatory KYC requirements.

I am working with Breakout Gaming to launch legal, licensed games, with a model designed to spread interest in cryptocurrency, specifically this Breakout Coin,  beyond current coin enthusiasts.

Gzesh


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Post by: jackfruit on September 16, 2014, 01:59:09 AM
Why are you deleting posts from the thread?

EDIT: I see why...there seems to have been a fake account spamming a btc address.  My question remains about the fake followers on your twitter account http:/[Suspicious link removed]/OMImD0qhN6

That, and also most all of the facebook likes are from people from thailand, I mean come on now

Hey guys, understand your confusion and I'd like to address them squarely.  We hired a top publicist and Social Media firm to initiate our online presence.  Facebook was designed to reach out to people all over the world using Facebook ads and from there grow organically as we make announcements and press releases.  Our advertising was targeted at countries all over the World and specifically at regions where bitcoin was popular, eSports, and poker.  

Areas such as India and other Asian regions grew exponentially faster than USA/Europe and grew organically fairly rapidly.  Since then, we have dramatically cut down on these types of targeted ads.  With the announcement of our coin and platform, we aim to grow organically within the crypto community as well as poker and eSports fans all over the world.

Twitter, we haven't done any advertising or marketing at all since the account was created.  Twitter is a social conversation tool and we hope to gain traction once we go "live" and have our pro players involved.

Thanks for the response...another question I have is how involved are these poker celebrities in this coin? And why did they choose to get involved?


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Post by: Cyberlight on September 16, 2014, 02:04:35 AM
Why the fake followers i don't understand.


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Post by: kingscrown on September 16, 2014, 02:14:31 AM
looks interesting but we need some proofs


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Post by: BreakoutGaming on September 16, 2014, 02:19:40 AM
Why the fake followers i don't understand.

We've been actively deleting fake followers and have been trying to figure out where they are all coming from. We've deleted hundreds/thousands of followers a couple of times and they keep coming back. Not sure who's adding them, but it's not us. We have not pursued any type of advertising on Twitter because Twitter is basically a conversation tool and there is no advantage to having "fake" followers.  Our hunch is that someone is screwing with us, but there's no way to tell. It looks like it's happened a few separate times. Our Twitter follower numbers go up or down by the thousands some days. We'll continue to delete fake addresses and monitor to make sure it doesn't happen again.

We are aware that there are a lot of 'fake follows' and that we are actively removing them but it's taking some time. We have also reported it to Twitter.  



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Post by: Cyberlight on September 16, 2014, 02:27:05 AM
Why the fake followers i don't understand.

We've been actively deleting fake followers and have been trying to figure out where they are all coming from. We've deleted hundreds/thousands of followers a couple of times and they keep coming back. Not sure who's adding them, but it's not us. We have not pursued any type of advertising on Twitter because Twitter is basically a conversation tool and there is no advantage to having "fake" followers.  Our hunch is that someone is screwing with us, but there's no way to tell. It looks like it's happened a few separate times. Our Twitter follower numbers go up or down by the thousands some days. We'll continue to delete fake addresses and monitor to make sure it doesn't happen again.

We are aware that there are a lot of 'fake follows' and that we are actively removing them but it's taking some time. We have also reported it to Twitter.  



Ok that makes sense.


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Post by: xx63245613 on September 16, 2014, 02:30:57 AM
it seems be good


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Post by: mimsx11 on September 16, 2014, 02:31:40 AM
Looks like dev slipped a little, he posted with this acc gutshot5820 sounding like he was dev but immediately deleted it, should of left it, now looks fishy, im sure someone else saw it


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Post by: jaybny on September 16, 2014, 02:40:17 AM
Looks like dev slipped a little, he posted with this acc gutshot5820 sounding like he was dev but immediately deleted it, should of left it, now looks fishy, im sure someone else saw it

so someone posted and then deleted.. what makes you think its a dev.. and why is it suspicious?


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Post by: JakeThePanda on September 16, 2014, 02:42:03 AM
Looks like dev slipped a little, he posted with this acc gutshot5820 sounding like he was dev but immediately deleted it, should of left it, now looks fishy, im sure someone else saw it

Fishy? Jennifer Harman is retweeting about this. Get off it bro. See what I did there?  Lol.


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Post by: ofortuna on September 16, 2014, 02:49:35 AM
Looks like dev slipped a little, he posted with this acc gutshot5820 sounding like he was dev but immediately deleted it, should of left it, now looks fishy, im sure someone else saw it

Fishy? Jennifer Harman is retweeting about this. Get off it bro. See what I did there?  Lol.

I like your style Jake lol


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Post by: AltCoinBuddah on September 16, 2014, 03:10:21 AM
Thanks for the link to our thread Huck Seed!!

https://twitter.com/HuckleberrySeed/with_replies

I will both mine and buy the if possible. I like that it has real pro poker players backing the service that backs the coin.  8)


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Post by: darylluke on September 16, 2014, 03:57:11 AM
 :o  FUD already!!! GOTTA be LEGIT!!  :o

~darylluke.


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Post by: ofortuna on September 16, 2014, 04:46:23 AM
https://twitter.com/ForrestTed/status/511673494455599105

Ted puts the line at 50/50 that he will have half his money in cryptos within 2 months.


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Post by: mmm01 on September 16, 2014, 06:32:54 AM
following this looks like it has potential


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Post by: Gunther on September 16, 2014, 08:56:12 AM
Following.


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Post by: bogdan_ulm on September 16, 2014, 09:03:28 AM
This is one of the reasons I love cryptocurrencies: you never know what awesome thing to expect!  ;D


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Post by: BreakoutCoin on September 16, 2014, 03:46:32 PM
This is one of the reasons I love cryptocurrencies: you never know what awesome thing to expect!  ;D

Thanks!!


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Post by: 177sis on September 16, 2014, 03:54:32 PM
keep watching this coin. good coin


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Post by: BreakoutCoin on September 16, 2014, 04:01:21 PM
keep watching this [Suspicious link removed]d coin

Thanks 1777sis! 


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Post by: Only4money on September 16, 2014, 04:04:38 PM
Well probably gonna give this a go. Following it from now. :)


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Post by: BreakoutGaming on September 16, 2014, 04:11:49 PM
Well probably gonna give this a go. Following it from now. :)

Awesome, welcome to the team, Only4money!!


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Post by: cryptoholic11 on September 16, 2014, 04:45:00 PM
Looking forward to the specs and ICO price. Hopefully theyre good. I dont like ICOs but this might be the most promising ICO coin.


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Post by: BreakoutGaming on September 16, 2014, 05:12:11 PM
https://twitter.com/ForrestTed/status/511673494455599105

Ted puts the line at 50/50 that he will have half his money in cryptos within 2 months.


We will take the over on that one.    ;)


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Post by: ofortuna on September 16, 2014, 06:45:35 PM
Looking forward to the specs and ICO price. Hopefully theyre good. I dont like ICOs but this might be the most promising ICO coin.

Hi cryptoholic11,

Thank you for your interest in BRO!

The coins purchased at the ICO will come with Bergstake.  After the ICO, there will be a 2 year PoW mining phase to insure a fair distribution of Bergstake before going full PoS.


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Post by: JakeThePanda on September 16, 2014, 06:54:40 PM
Looking forward to the specs and ICO price. Hopefully theyre good. I dont like ICOs but this might be the most promising ICO coin.

Hi cryptoholic11,

Thank you for your interest in BRO!

The coins purchased at the ICO will come with Bergstake.  After the ICO, there will be a 2 year PoW mining phase to insure a fair distribution of Bergstake before going full PoS.


How are you going to ensure the ICO is fair?  If there is one thing I know about poker players, it's that if there is an edge they will take it.  How can we guard against one of the pros swooping up the entire ICO in one order.  I can easily see that happening.  Do you know about how much BTC you are looking to raise?  What % of the total supply will be in the ICO?


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Post by: Timeline on September 16, 2014, 06:55:36 PM
What kind of rake structure will poker have?
What is the ICO price?


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: Sat0shiNanonoko on September 16, 2014, 07:11:03 PM
Love this coin!


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Post by: ofortuna on September 16, 2014, 07:22:09 PM
Looking forward to the specs and ICO price. Hopefully theyre good. I dont like ICOs but this might be the most promising ICO coin.

Hi cryptoholic11,

Thank you for your interest in BRO!

The coins purchased at the ICO will come with Bergstake.  After the ICO, there will be a 2 year PoW mining phase to insure a fair distribution of Bergstake before going full PoS.


How are you going to ensure the ICO is fair?  If there is one thing I know about poker players, it's that if there is an edge they will take it.  How can we guard against one of the pros swooping up the entire ICO in one order.  I can easily see that happening.  Do you know about how much BTC you are looking to raise?  What % of the total supply will be in the ICO?

We will reveal the details of the ICO in the official Announcement within a week.  I agree that no one wants a single person to swoop up the entire offering and we will make sure that doesn't happen.


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Post by: jaybny on September 16, 2014, 07:32:17 PM
Looking forward to the specs and ICO price. Hopefully theyre good. I dont like ICOs but this might be the most promising ICO coin.

Hi cryptoholic11,

Thank you for your interest in BRO!

The coins purchased at the ICO will come with Bergstake.  After the ICO, there will be a 2 year PoW mining phase to insure a fair distribution of Bergstake before going full PoS.


How are you going to ensure the ICO is fair?  If there is one thing I know about poker players, it's that if there is an edge they will take it.  How can we guard against one of the pros swooping up the entire ICO in one order.  I can easily see that happening.  Do you know about how much BTC you are looking to raise?  What % of the total supply will be in the ICO?

details will come shortly. there will be enough coins to go around. the way it will be structured, it wont be possible for anyone purchase all the initial coins.


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Post by: JakeThePanda on September 16, 2014, 07:35:52 PM
Looking forward to the specs and ICO price. Hopefully theyre good. I dont like ICOs but this might be the most promising ICO coin.

Hi cryptoholic11,

Thank you for your interest in BRO!

The coins purchased at the ICO will come with Bergstake.  After the ICO, there will be a 2 year PoW mining phase to insure a fair distribution of Bergstake before going full PoS.


How are you going to ensure the ICO is fair?  If there is one thing I know about poker players, it's that if there is an edge they will take it.  How can we guard against one of the pros swooping up the entire ICO in one order.  I can easily see that happening.  Do you know about how much BTC you are looking to raise?  What % of the total supply will be in the ICO?

details will come shortly. there will be enough coins to go around. the way it will be structured, it wont be possible for anyone purchase all the initial coins.

My mistake.  I think I know how it's going to be structured.  You will probably just divvy up the coins in proportion to the amount of BTC each person buys?


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Post by: jaybny on September 16, 2014, 07:47:30 PM
Looking forward to the specs and ICO price. Hopefully theyre good. I dont like ICOs but this might be the most promising ICO coin.

Hi cryptoholic11,

Thank you for your interest in BRO!

The coins purchased at the ICO will come with Bergstake.  After the ICO, there will be a 2 year PoW mining phase to insure a fair distribution of Bergstake before going full PoS.


How are you going to ensure the ICO is fair?  If there is one thing I know about poker players, it's that if there is an edge they will take it.  How can we guard against one of the pros swooping up the entire ICO in one order.  I can easily see that happening.  Do you know about how much BTC you are looking to raise?  What % of the total supply will be in the ICO?

details will come shortly. there will be enough coins to go around. the way it will be structured, it wont be possible for anyone purchase all the initial coins.

My mistake.  I think I know how it's going to be structured.  You will probably just divvy up the coins in proportion to the amount of BTC each person buys?

yes, there will be an allotment of coins for entire initial offering.
   


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: ofortuna on September 16, 2014, 10:16:21 PM
What kind of rake structure will poker have?


5% with a $3 cap is standard across major poker sites and we plan on sticking to that.

5% up to $3.00 max on all limits up to $25/50 (NL/PL) or $100/200 (limit) and up to $5 for higher limits is what's currently planned



Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on September 17, 2014, 12:34:33 AM
What kind of rake structure will poker have?
What is the ICO price?


have you invested in an ICO before?


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: JakeThePanda on September 17, 2014, 01:01:24 AM
What kind of rake structure will poker have?


5% with a $3 cap is standard across major poker sites and we plan on sticking to that.

5% up to $3.00 max on all limits up to $25/50 (NL/PL) or $100/200 (limit) and up to $5 for higher limits is what's currently planned



Ok we starting talking poker now I'm getting pumped for this coin.

What kind of rewards programs are we looking at?
Rakeback?


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: Malooka on September 17, 2014, 02:16:48 AM
Will there be a real sportsbook at/near release, or just fantasy nonsense?


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: BreakoutGaming on September 17, 2014, 02:24:20 AM
Will there be a real sportsbook at/near release, or just fantasy nonsense?


Sportsbook will not be available until a few months after launch.  Daily Fantasy Sports is the largest and fastest growing segment of the gaming industry.  We hope to have all types of games available for different people.  


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: darylluke on September 17, 2014, 04:31:35 AM
Hello,

I've been in the online gaming industry since 2001, most recently with a legal practice as igaming counsel, with a focus on learning about new cryptocurrency applications, including the coming 2.0 developments.

I got started working the convergence of igaming and cryptocurrency in late 2012, meetng some bitcoin early adopters, reviewing bitcoin gaming start-ups and giving a few talks on the topic, starting with Bitcoin2013. Since then I've been working with a number of regulatory and licensing jurisdictions to allow igaming companies to accept crypto currency for transactions and allow operators to offer play denominated in crypto currencies.

While there are a plethora of emerging crypto-currencies and even more crypto-gambling ventures, Breakout Coin presents a  new cryptocurrency specifically designed to meet both player privacy desires and regulatory KYC requirements.

I am working with Breakout Gaming to launch legal, licensed games, with a model designed to spread interest in cryptocurrency, specifically this Breakout Coin,  beyond current coin enthusiasts.

Gzesh

This means you are one of the development team.THIS is AWESOME!!

Can somebody ELI5 the ICO process? I want IN on this. This is so well managed, planned, and professionally backed, I'd be stupid NOT to want to get into the ICO!!

~darylluke.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: ofortuna on September 17, 2014, 04:32:23 AM
What kind of rake structure will poker have?


5% with a $3 cap is standard across major poker sites and we plan on sticking to that.

5% up to $3.00 max on all limits up to $25/50 (NL/PL) or $100/200 (limit) and up to $5 for higher limits is what's currently planned



Ok we starting talking poker now I'm getting pumped for this coin.

What kind of rewards programs are we looking at?
Rakeback?


yes the plan is to offer rakeback and we are developing a very exciting BRO Rewards program that will recognize and reward our loyal players across all our channels, including poker, casino, fantasy and eSports




Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: darylluke on September 17, 2014, 04:47:01 AM
Also,

How is this different from say plain old Bitcoin for betting? I mean that right now I can use BTC to bet on NBA, NHL, NFL, etc.... Also, how long after the coin is actually launched (and wallets are public on exchanges) will I be able to place an actual bet on a game?thnx.

~darylluke.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: adoalli on September 17, 2014, 04:56:49 AM
i like this


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: darylluke on September 17, 2014, 05:20:05 AM
I can't seem to find what the total number of coins will be....  :-\ 5M-22M??

~darylluke.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: PryptoMontreal on September 17, 2014, 05:26:46 AM
Looks like dev slipped a little, he posted with this acc gutshot5820 sounding like he was dev but immediately deleted it, should of left it, now looks fishy, im sure someone else saw it

so someone posted and then deleted.. what makes you think its a dev.. and why is it suspicious?


https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/12741-bitcoin-developer-wanted/

Looks like he is indeed part of the team. There's nothing wrong with that user as far as I can tell.

Edit: Oh wait, I just saw that he's indeed posting under gutshot5820 and tries to hype is own coin..


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: ofortuna on September 17, 2014, 05:44:18 AM
Also,

How is this different from say plain old Bitcoin for betting? I mean that right now I can use BTC to bet on NBA, NHL, NFL, etc.... Also, how long after the coin is actually launched (and wallets are public on exchanges) will I be able to place an actual bet on a game?thnx.

~darylluke.

In addition to traditional Pro sports typically available on top Fantasy Sports sites NBA, NHL, NFL, MLB, Golf, NASCAR, we will launch with two proprietary leagues:  Fantasy Crypto and Fantasy eSports

The target for launch of all the platforms is end of Oct so you should be able to place a bet then!  We plan to show off our designs very soon.  Look at the bottom of the PRE-ANN for a sneak peak of our actual web pages.

The actual announcement will come soon packed with additional details!


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on September 17, 2014, 05:53:38 AM
I can't seem to find what the total number of coins will be....  :-\ 5M-22M??

~darylluke.

official numbers will be revealed in the announcement thread. here are some general numbers.

after 2 years there will be a total of 21m coins, then there will be a switch to Proof-of-Bergstake, and I believe there will be 2m new coins each year for 20+ years.

so there will be total of 21m coins that have Bergstake rights, and around 60m additional coins generated with those 21m Bergstake rights.

total BRO coins will be 14m at launch, 21m after 2 years and around 80m after 20+ years.

this is an estimate, will get back with concrete numbers.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: ofortuna on September 17, 2014, 06:18:01 AM
Hello,

I've been in the online gaming industry since 2001, most recently with a legal practice as igaming counsel, with a focus on learning about new cryptocurrency applications, including the coming 2.0 developments.

I got started working the convergence of igaming and cryptocurrency in late 2012, meetng some bitcoin early adopters, reviewing bitcoin gaming start-ups and giving a few talks on the topic, starting with Bitcoin2013. Since then I've been working with a number of regulatory and licensing jurisdictions to allow igaming companies to accept crypto currency for transactions and allow operators to offer play denominated in crypto currencies.

While there are a plethora of emerging crypto-currencies and even more crypto-gambling ventures, Breakout Coin presents a  new cryptocurrency specifically designed to meet both player privacy desires and regulatory KYC requirements.

I am working with Breakout Gaming to launch legal, licensed games, with a model designed to spread interest in cryptocurrency, specifically this Breakout Coin,  beyond current coin enthusiasts.

Gzesh

This means you are one of the development team.THIS is AWESOME!!

Can somebody ELI5 the ICO process? I want IN on this. This is so well managed, planned, and professionally backed, I'd be stupid NOT to want to get into the ICO!!

~darylluke.

Yes David Gzesh (http://youtu.be/qcfhzcF6RcE) is a valued part of the Breakout Team!


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on September 17, 2014, 06:39:00 AM
Hello,

I've been in the online gaming industry since 2001, most recently with a legal practice as igaming counsel, with a focus on learning about new cryptocurrency applications, including the coming 2.0 developments.

I got started working the convergence of igaming and cryptocurrency in late 2012, meetng some bitcoin early adopters, reviewing bitcoin gaming start-ups and giving a few talks on the topic, starting with Bitcoin2013. Since then I've been working with a number of regulatory and licensing jurisdictions to allow igaming companies to accept crypto currency for transactions and allow operators to offer play denominated in crypto currencies.

While there are a plethora of emerging crypto-currencies and even more crypto-gambling ventures, Breakout Coin presents a  new cryptocurrency specifically designed to meet both player privacy desires and regulatory KYC requirements.

I am working with Breakout Gaming to launch legal, licensed games, with a model designed to spread interest in cryptocurrency, specifically this Breakout Coin,  beyond current coin enthusiasts.

Gzesh

This means you are one of the development team.THIS is AWESOME!!

Can somebody ELI5 the ICO process? I want IN on this. This is so well managed, planned, and professionally backed, I'd be stupid NOT to want to get into the ICO!!

~darylluke.

ok, will explain.

-- There will be an announcement with the start date and time of the initial coin offering.

-- during the initial coin offering the will be a web page with a countdown of the time remaining till the close of the offering.

-- while the offering is open, there will be exact instructions on how to invest in the ICO.

-- to invest in the ICO, simply send any amount of bitcoins to the breakoutcoin "genesis"  bitcoin address

-- once ICO closes, you will download the breakout coin wallet, on the same machine as your bitcoin wallet, and your breakout coins will magically appear in your breakout wallet.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: ofortuna on September 17, 2014, 08:55:55 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10620712_268350146692020_6735872732550925514_n.jpg?oh=5d2de8ab977a715db5c7d3cfa93aa241&oe=549311E8&__gda__=1419474529_304ddb5bdefd716478bf971f0f60dc7b


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Post by: Mayhem007 on September 17, 2014, 09:15:05 PM
Is this for real?  has potential to have real support if the poker players are truly involved.  interested....

Cool piggy  LOL


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Post by: bogdan_ulm on September 17, 2014, 11:19:06 PM

This pig is the coolest thing I've seen on Bitcointalk up to now :) Lol!


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: Mayhem007 on September 17, 2014, 11:46:13 PM
when does the ICO begin?


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: TippingPoint on September 18, 2014, 03:07:40 AM
May you live in interesting times.



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Post by: masternode on September 18, 2014, 06:40:05 AM
I don't get it.  Why not just create a suite of online gambling sites that accepts crypto without exposing yourself to the downside of a failed coin?  99% of the coins that are released wind up as shitcoins offering little or no real innovation, and from what I've seen here I don't expect this coin to stand out in any meaningful way.

When you try to be everything you typically wind up with nothing, BRO.


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Post by: jaybny on September 18, 2014, 06:27:47 PM
I don't get it.  Why not just create a suite of online gambling sites that accepts crypto without exposing yourself to the downside of a failed coin?  99% of the coins that are released wind up as shitcoins offering little or no real innovation, and from what I've seen here I don't expect this coin to stand out in any meaningful way.

When you try to be everything you typically wind up with nothing, BRO.

-- the gaming platform with a built-in exchange will create a unique environment that can support BRO coin by providing unprecedented liquidity.

-- by creating a new coin, it enables the use of a small portion of the BRO pre-mine, to be widely distributed through freeroll contests.

-- BRO uses an innovative new proof-of-stake algorithm, which makes it a viable currency on its own as an alternative to bitcoin.

-- the coin and the platform each can survive on its own, but together they are both stronger.




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Post by: darylluke on September 18, 2014, 09:26:58 PM
This needs some clarification. I'll post the message and the link here. thnx. ~darylluke.

....

"This user is currently NOT AUTHENTICATED. If you are currently talking to someone who claims to be this person, you may be talking to an impostor and scammer."

http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=jaybny


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Post by: jaybny on September 18, 2014, 11:32:27 PM
This needs some clarification. I'll post the message and the link here. thnx. ~darylluke.

....

"This user is currently NOT AUTHENTICATED. If you are currently talking to someone who claims to be this person, you may be talking to an impostor and scammer."

http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=jaybny

ok. fixed. I am now authenticated. That message appears each time I get logged out of the IRC channel.

-- im assuming you have not traded btc from the bitcoin-otc irc channel.
-- you can read the wiki here: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Main_Page  and http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc
-- you can checkout the orderbook here: http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php

 i'll explain.

-- there is is a "web-of-trust" for traders in bitcoin-otc. where each time a  successful trade is complete, you can rank eachother. This is primarily used to determine who sends first. So if i'm buying your BTC with my USD, and I have a higher rating than you, I will require you to send the BTCs before i send the USD.

-- however, anyone can change their nick on irc to "jaybny". so how do you know that "jaybny" that you are dealing with in the chat room is the same "jaybny" from the rating system? This is done by using pgp and gribble.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Gribble

-- I ask gribble to authenticate me.  he sends me a challenge string, that I sign with the same private-key associated with "jaybny" in the web-of-trust.
-- now I am authenticated.

jaybny: ;;gpg auth jaybny
gribble: Request successful for user jaybny, Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:d67b646b8721ec0c69263a1cc617589eb79044f6eccf04b4ad32abc3
jaybny: ;;gpg verify http://pastebin.com/9wZRxwsx
gribble: You are now authenticated for user 'jaybny' with key 0DDC66BA24D5CC4A


-- however, scammers can trick newbies by using the nick "jaybny" to negotiate a trade. they would then convince the other party to send the BTC first by pming this link:  "http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=jaybny"  

-- so the big bold red message "This user is currently NOT AUTHENTICATED...." was put there to warn you not to trust  that the person you are chatting with is "jaybny", until he authenticates with gribble as "jaybny" with pgp.

blah


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Post by: darylluke on September 19, 2014, 04:04:39 AM
THANKS for the detailed explanation! I can't wait for this!! ;D


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: ofortuna on September 19, 2014, 07:55:14 AM
May you live in interesting times.



Always loved that quote


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Post by: adloule13 on September 19, 2014, 09:32:29 AM
i like this coin but i really dont trust ICO  >:(


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: ofortuna on September 19, 2014, 09:43:11 AM
i like this coin but i really dont trust ICO  >:(

What if I give you an offer that you can't refuse?

No one is asking you to trust.  In fact, if I hear someone say the words "trust me" i run as fast as I can in the opposite direction.

Follow and watch it unfold.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: myagui on September 19, 2014, 09:58:23 AM
Interesting project gents, have me wondering about the following:

Considering that Bergstake is a significant innovation, sitting/waiting on it for two years of PoW is largely unattractive (in my mind).
Would you consider activating Bergstake sooner, perhaps having a stage of concurrent PoW and PoS?

Also, will the ICO allow participation for someone that does not have a local BTC wallet? I only ever use web wallets for BTC, and the automagic distribution of BRO to ICO buyers sounds to me as depending on access to one's BTC keys. Please elaborate.

Best of luck!
~ Myagui


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: JakeThePanda on September 19, 2014, 02:54:20 PM
Interesting project gents, have me wondering about the following:

Considering that Bergstake is a significant innovation, sitting/waiting on it for two years of PoW is largely unattractive (in my mind).
Would you consider activating Bergstake sooner, perhaps having a stage of concurrent PoW and PoS?

Also, will the ICO allow participation for someone that does not have a local BTC wallet? I only ever use web wallets for BTC, and the automagic distribution of BRO to ICO buyers sounds to me as depending on access to one's BTC keys. Please elaborate.

Best of luck!
~ Myagui

Maybe you can just use Blockchain.info?


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: enta2k on September 19, 2014, 03:02:35 PM
Sounds cool, so everything will be available tomorrow?


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on September 19, 2014, 04:11:05 PM
i like this coin but i really dont trust ICO  >:(

Please explain your mistrust. Without an ICO, only miners would be able to obtain BRO. With the Bergstake feature, we feel that the risk of large miners / pools having a majority stake is to large. So the initial offering, should work to distribute coins to investors / smaller miners / crypto-newbies.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: Only4money on September 19, 2014, 04:21:28 PM
i like this coin but i really dont trust ICO  >:(

Please explain your mistrust. Without an ICO, only miners would be able to obtain BRO. With the Bergstake feature, we feel that the risk of large miners / pools would having a majority stake is to large. So the initial offering, should work to distribute coins to investors / smaller miners / crypto-newbies.
If this is the only reason for the ICO then I'll suggest you to adapt some other distribution model rather than mining I mean something like what Captcoin adapted or probably signature based distribution etc.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on September 19, 2014, 04:24:00 PM
Interesting project gents, have me wondering about the following:

Considering that Bergstake is a significant innovation, sitting/waiting on it for two years of PoW is largely unattractive (in my mind).
Would you consider activating Bergstake sooner, perhaps having a stage of concurrent PoW and PoS?

Once POW ends and Bergstake starts,  it will be impossible to obtain more Bergstake. So whatever the distribution looks like at that point, will continue forever. The two years of mining  coupled with the ICO, should have the effect of distributing the Bergstake as widely as possible.

Think of the bergstake as an out-of-the money call option, or lottery ticket, that you get for free each time you solve POW. ICO investors will also get Bergstake.

In the limit as as POW time gets closer to 0 , the coin basically becomes a 100% pre-mine, which we do not want.

Interesting idea regarding concurrent PoW / PoS , would have to flush this out.

Quote
Also, will the ICO allow participation for someone that does not have a local BTC wallet? I only ever use web wallets for BTC, and the automagic distribution of BRO to ICO buyers sounds to me as depending on access to one's BTC keys. Please elaborate.

Best of luck!
~ Myagui

@myagui - yes, the basic method would depend on a access to local BTC keys.  we are working on a solution that would enable the use of web wallets.

if anyone has some suggestions we would love to hear. bounties will be available.





Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on September 19, 2014, 04:26:00 PM
Sounds cool, so everything will be available tomorrow?


Monday the earliest. The should be an official update tomorrow.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on September 19, 2014, 04:34:28 PM
i like this coin but i really dont trust ICO  >:(

Please explain your mistrust. Without an ICO, only miners would be able to obtain BRO. With the Bergstake feature, we feel that the risk of large miners / pools would having a majority stake is to large. So the initial offering, should work to distribute coins to investors / smaller miners / crypto-newbies.
If this is the only reason for the ICO then I'll suggest you to adapt some other distribution model rather than mining I mean something like what Captcoin adapted or probably signature based distribution etc.

Captcoin and all other coin-age based PoS coins, are really not decentralized currencies, stake grinding and nothing-at-stake, has forced all these coins into over reliance of developer checkpoints. If your going to do 100% pre-mine, might as well do DPOS.

We feel that active miners add more than just security to a coin, it builds a base of users with intimate knowledge of coin, and sweat equity helps in the long term survival.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: JakeThePanda on September 19, 2014, 04:56:40 PM
i like this coin but i really dont trust ICO  >:(

Please explain your mistrust. Without an ICO, only miners would be able to obtain BRO. With the Bergstake feature, we feel that the risk of large miners / pools would having a majority stake is to large. So the initial offering, should work to distribute coins to investors / smaller miners / crypto-newbies.
If this is the only reason for the ICO then I'll suggest you to adapt some other distribution model rather than mining I mean something like what Captcoin adapted or probably signature based distribution etc.

Captcoin and all other coin-age based PoS coins, are really not decentralized currencies, stake grinding and nothing-at-stake, has forced all these coins into over reliance of developer checkpoints. If your going to do 100% pre-mine, might as well do DPOS.

We feel that active miners add more than just security to a coin, it builds a base of users with intimate knowledge of coin, and sweat equity helps in the long term survival.

Speaking of DPOS, I was thinking that BitUSD would be the perfect crypto to use for a poker site, if you weren't making your own.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on September 19, 2014, 05:00:00 PM
Speaking of DPOS, I was thinking that BitUSD would be the perfect crypto to use for a poker site, if you weren't making your own.

is BitUSD live? active? viable? have not looked into bitshares since the old whitepapers.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: JakeThePanda on September 19, 2014, 05:02:49 PM
Speaking of DPOS, I was thinking that BitUSD would be the perfect crypto to use for a poker site, if you weren't making your own.

is BitUSD live? active? viable? have not looked into bitshares since the old whitepapers.

Seriously? LOLOLOLOL  :D

Check out #4 on the coin market cap

https://coinmarketcap.com/ (https://coinmarketcap.com/)


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on September 19, 2014, 05:06:39 PM
Speaking of DPOS, I was thinking that BitUSD would be the perfect crypto to use for a poker site, if you weren't making your own.

is BitUSD live? active? viable? have not looked into bitshares since the old whitepapers.

Seriously? LOLOLOLOL  :D

Check out #4 on the coin market cap

https://coinmarketcap.com/ (https://coinmarketcap.com/)

bitshares != bitusd


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: JakeThePanda on September 19, 2014, 05:07:16 PM
Speaking of DPOS, I was thinking that BitUSD would be the perfect crypto to use for a poker site, if you weren't making your own.

is BitUSD live? active? viable? have not looked into bitshares since the old whitepapers.

Seriously? LOLOLOLOL  :D

Check out #4 on the coin market cap

https://coinmarketcap.com/ (https://coinmarketcap.com/)

bitshares != bitusd

Do you think Bitshares would be that high on the list if BitUSD wasn't active and working?


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on September 19, 2014, 05:14:09 PM
Speaking of DPOS, I was thinking that BitUSD would be the perfect crypto to use for a poker site, if you weren't making your own.

is BitUSD live? active? viable? have not looked into bitshares since the old whitepapers.

Seriously? LOLOLOLOL  :D

Check out #4 on the coin market cap

https://coinmarketcap.com/ (https://coinmarketcap.com/)

bitshares != bitusd

Do you think Bitshares would be that high on the list if BitUSD wasn't active and working?

I dont know enough about it. i thought that with bitsharesX you can have a proxy to anything like BitGold and BitBTC as well as BitUSD. im still not clear as to how BitUSD maintains its value of $1.  

like I said, its been a while since I looked into it, was on initial conf calls back in the the invictus-innovations days before the divorce.  

Edit: and FYI, coinmarketcap is a little misleading, in that 4 of the top 7 are 100% premined, and the available-supply just drawfs the volume. There needs to be a new measure to rank these pre-mined coins. The price is meaningless when the relative volume is so low. the concept of liquidity is missing from that site.  


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: JakeThePanda on September 19, 2014, 05:15:58 PM
Speaking of DPOS, I was thinking that BitUSD would be the perfect crypto to use for a poker site, if you weren't making your own.

is BitUSD live? active? viable? have not looked into bitshares since the old whitepapers.

Seriously? LOLOLOLOL  :D

Check out #4 on the coin market cap

https://coinmarketcap.com/ (https://coinmarketcap.com/)

bitshares != bitusd

Do you think Bitshares would be that high on the list if BitUSD wasn't active and working?

I dont know enough about it. i thought that with bitsharesX you can have a proxy to anything like BitGold and BitBTC as well as BitUSD. im still not clear as to how BitUSD maintains its value of $1.  

like I said, its been a while since I looked into it, was on initial conf calls back in the the invictus-innovations days before the divorce.  

Ok, we don't have to get into it here then. BitBTC and BitUSD are live.  I don't think BitGOld is live yet.  If you looked into it back then and didn't invest then I'm sorry to say you missed out on some major ROI.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: bttshenxian on September 19, 2014, 10:42:29 PM
dev, what time the official launch, set the countdown, how to get BRO


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: JakeThePanda on September 20, 2014, 02:15:21 AM
Hold up!

I just read some of the literature.  Only in legal to play markets?  Will I have to give you ID to play and withdraw my coins? 


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: masternode on September 20, 2014, 06:11:46 AM
I don't get it.  Why not just create a suite of online gambling sites that accepts crypto without exposing yourself to the downside of a failed coin?  99% of the coins that are released wind up as shitcoins offering little or no real innovation, and from what I've seen here I don't expect this coin to stand out in any meaningful way.

When you try to be everything you typically wind up with nothing, BRO.

-- the gaming platform with a built-in exchange will create a unique environment that can support BRO coin by providing unprecedented liquidity.

-- by creating a new coin, it enables the use of a small portion of the BRO pre-mine, to be widely distributed through freeroll contests.

-- BRO uses an innovative new proof-of-stake algorithm, which makes it a viable currency on its own as an alternative to bitcoin.

-- the coin and the platform each can survive on its own, but together they are both stronger.




Do you have any clue about what you're saying?

1.)  -- the gaming platform with a built-in exchange will create a unique environment that can support BRO coin by providing unprecedented liquidity.

Numerous online gambling sites have failed because it's a very competitive environment.  Likewise there are plenty of struggling exchanges in the crypto space that can't seem to attract liquidity.  You've explained nothing, only having made a grand claim that combining both of these is some sort of secret sauce that will magically make players or traders appear on their platform or exchange.  This claim is completely ridiculous.

2.)  -- by creating a new coin, it enables the use of a small portion of the BRO pre-mine, to be widely distributed through freeroll contests.

The coin needs to have some sort of value first.  If all they got is the idea that combing a gaming platform with an exchange will somehow create liquidity or value for the coin, then you'll most likely see freeroll contests with worthless prizes.

3.)  -- BRO uses an innovative new proof-of-stake algorithm, which makes it a viable currency on its own as an alternative to bitcoin.

Lol.  Please expand.  A currency requires people exchange with it.  Why exactly do I want to use this currency?  Is there somewhere for me to spend it other than a gambling site / exchange that probably won't have any players or use it on freerolls that have worthless prizes?  Without clearly answering they you plan to provide liquidity or find players for the gambling sites then this statement is a crock of shit.

4.)  -- the coin and the platform each can survive on its own, but together they are both stronger.

Unless they are both worthless.  I hate to break it to you but 0 + 0 = 0.  And again you've made a ridiculous claim without any sort of reasonable explanation to back up why it will be stronger. 


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on September 20, 2014, 08:39:41 AM
I don't get it.  Why not just create a suite of online gambling sites that accepts crypto without exposing yourself to the downside of a failed coin?  99% of the coins that are released wind up as shitcoins offering little or no real innovation, and from what I've seen here I don't expect this coin to stand out in any meaningful way.

When you try to be everything you typically wind up with nothing, BRO.

-- the gaming platform with a built-in exchange will create a unique environment that can support BRO coin by providing unprecedented liquidity.

-- by creating a new coin, it enables the use of a small portion of the BRO pre-mine, to be widely distributed through freeroll contests.

-- BRO uses an innovative new proof-of-stake algorithm, which makes it a viable currency on its own as an alternative to bitcoin.

-- the coin and the platform each can survive on its own, but together they are both stronger.




Do you have any clue about what you're saying?

1.)  -- the gaming platform with a built-in exchange will create a unique environment that can support BRO coin by providing unprecedented liquidity.

Numerous online gambling sites have failed because it's a very competitive environment.  Likewise there are plenty of struggling exchanges in the crypto space that can't seem to attract liquidity.  You've explained nothing, only having made a grand claim that combining both of these is some sort of secret sauce that will magically make players or traders appear on their platform or exchange.  This claim is completely ridiculous.

the magic happens because the users are there for the games, we have fantasy esports games, for a younge demographic and fanatics of spectator esports.

Quote
2.)  -- by creating a new coin, it enables the use of a small portion of the BRO pre-mine, to be widely distributed through freeroll contests.

The coin needs to have some sort of value first.  If all they got is the idea that combing a gaming platform with an exchange will somehow create liquidity or value for the coin, then you'll most likely see freeroll contests with worthless prizes.
no its doesnt need value, only utility. but it has value , this value is a side effect of the various gaming laws and regulations

Quote
3.)  -- BRO uses an innovative new proof-of-stake algorithm, which makes it a viable currency on its own as an alternative to bitcoin.

Lol.  Please expand.  A currency requires people exchange with it.  Why exactly do I want to use this currency?  Is there somewhere for me to spend it other than a gambling site / exchange that probably won't have any players or use it on freerolls that have worthless prizes?  Without clearly answering they you plan to provide liquidity or find players for the gambling sites then this statement is a crock of shit.

much lulz back.. u win 5 Internets

its a coin, a token, its solves the nothing-at-stake problem. it maybe worthless, but it should still be in the top 10 market-cap, because its all worthless. including fiat, and cat memes

RTFM!
 
Quote
4.)  -- the coin and the platform each can survive on its own, but together they are both stronger.

Unless they are both worthless.  I hate to break it to you but 0 + 0 = 0.  And again you've made a ridiculous claim without any sort of reasonable explanation to back up why it will be stronger.  

something strange in your neighborhood....




who you gonna call???





FUD busters!
 ;D ;D ;D


fyi. i can answer any questions you have. just ask nicely.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: Chang Hum on September 20, 2014, 09:15:44 AM
I think selling "play money" tokens to raise money for a site you haven't built yet is a fantastic idea, wishing you the very best of luck!


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on September 20, 2014, 09:21:25 AM
I think selling "play money" tokens to raise money for a site you haven't built yet is a fantastic idea, wishing you the very best of luck!
play money tokens? where u get that?

thank you. the coin stands on itself. no worse than just another alt-coin.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: bitcoinwonders010 on September 20, 2014, 09:24:58 AM
where is the proof poker players actually back the coin as that would be in violation of their contract with pokerstars/fulltilt poker


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: brother3 on September 20, 2014, 01:51:07 PM
where is the proof poker players actually back the coin as that would be in violation of their contract with pokerstars/fulltilt poker

You can start looking at the poker players' official Twitters


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: firedoner on September 20, 2014, 02:08:20 PM
this looks promising


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: Warfare2020 on September 20, 2014, 05:07:50 PM
how to get coins ?


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: ofortuna on September 20, 2014, 06:15:38 PM
Hold up!

I just read some of the literature.  Only in legal to play markets?  Will I have to give you ID to play and withdraw my coins?  

Hi JakeThePanda,

Poker and Casino will not be available in the USA. We will follow all applicable laws.

ID's (like driver's license?) shouldn't be required to play or withdraw coins.  It's the traditional payment processors that have stringent KYC requirements.



Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: ofortuna on September 20, 2014, 06:29:19 PM
dev, what time the official launch, set the countdown, how to get BRO


The Announcement should be up next week with a 2 week countdown to the BRO ICO.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: JakeThePanda on September 20, 2014, 06:30:18 PM
Hold up!

I just read some of the literature.  Only in legal to play markets?  Will I have to give you ID to play and withdraw my coins?  

Hi JakeThePanda,

Poker and Casino will not be available in the USA. We will follow all applicable laws.

ID's (like driver's license?) shouldn't be required to play or withdraw coins.  It's the traditional payment processors that have stringent KYC requirements.



How will you know where I'm from if ID isn't required?  I guess there will be no playing poker with the pros considering most of them are from the USA.  :D :D :D


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: brother3 on September 20, 2014, 06:42:13 PM
how to get coins ?

Coins will be offered via ICO as well as mining...

Quote
PoW for 2 years, with CryptoNight based hashing algo then changes to Bergstake, a pure Proof-of-Stake algorithm, that solves all the known PoS issues


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: ofortuna on September 20, 2014, 07:31:33 PM
Hold up!

I just read some of the literature.  Only in legal to play markets?  Will I have to give you ID to play and withdraw my coins?  

Hi JakeThePanda,

Poker and Casino will not be available in the USA. We will follow all applicable laws.

ID's (like driver's license?) shouldn't be required to play or withdraw coins.  It's the traditional payment processors that have stringent KYC requirements.



How will you know where I'm from if ID isn't required?  I guess there will be no playing poker with the pros considering most of them are from the USA.  :D :D :D

For US residents:

We will IP block USA poker/casino play until laws change.  Although some consider crypto poker to be a legal grey area and offer unlicensed poker to the USA, we feel that it's not worth the risk it brings to the project and all the big names behind it.  We are thinking long term.

All forms of Fantasy Sports are legal in every state with a few exceptions.

Many Pros have residences outside the US.  We're working with Gzesh so that the Pros, even while in the US, will be able to participate in planned poker promotions.  You will be able to play with the Pros.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: darylluke on September 20, 2014, 08:26:13 PM
Interesting project gents, have me wondering about the following:

Considering that Bergstake is a significant innovation, sitting/waiting on it for two years of PoW is largely unattractive (in my mind).
Would you consider activating Bergstake sooner, perhaps having a stage of concurrent PoW and PoS?

Once POW ends and Bergstake starts,  it will be impossible to obtain more Bergstake. So whatever the distribution looks like at that point, will continue forever. The two years of mining  coupled with the ICO, should have the effect of distributing the Bergstake as widely as possible.

Think of the bergstake as an out-of-the money call option, or lottery ticket, that you get for free each time you solve POW. ICO investors will also get Bergstake.

In the limit as as POW time gets closer to 0 , the coin basically becomes a 100% pre-mine, which we do not want.

Interesting idea regarding concurrent PoW / PoS , would have to flush this out.

Quote
Also, will the ICO allow participation for someone that does not have a local BTC wallet? I only ever use web wallets for BTC, and the automagic distribution of BRO to ICO buyers sounds to me as depending on access to one's BTC keys. Please elaborate.

Best of luck!
~ Myagui

@myagui - yes, the basic method would depend on a access to local BTC keys.  we are working on a solution that would enable the use of web wallets.

if anyone has some suggestions we would love to hear. bounties will be available.





Especially with Snowden revelations, we here in the USA know they can access our PC any time they like.
I know, there are solutions, but those are NOT available to most people.Learning curve is just too big to overcome. I had 13 BTC stolen from my computer back when it was about 30bux. I ONLY trust exchanges, and BLOCKCHAIN.

So, are you saying I cannot participate in ICO if I don't have a wallet on my computer prior to October 4th, when the ICO comes??? SHIT MAN, THAT SUX , if in fact true. I have NOT been this excited about a new coin since BTCD went public. I have been getting "my ducks in a row" since I first saw this thread. Now it looks like I can't participate early.... PLEASE tell me it ain't so!!  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

~darylluke.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: ofortuna on September 20, 2014, 08:36:43 PM
Interesting project gents, have me wondering about the following:

Considering that Bergstake is a significant innovation, sitting/waiting on it for two years of PoW is largely unattractive (in my mind).
Would you consider activating Bergstake sooner, perhaps having a stage of concurrent PoW and PoS?

Once POW ends and Bergstake starts,  it will be impossible to obtain more Bergstake. So whatever the distribution looks like at that point, will continue forever. The two years of mining  coupled with the ICO, should have the effect of distributing the Bergstake as widely as possible.

Think of the bergstake as an out-of-the money call option, or lottery ticket, that you get for free each time you solve POW. ICO investors will also get Bergstake.

In the limit as as POW time gets closer to 0 , the coin basically becomes a 100% pre-mine, which we do not want.

Interesting idea regarding concurrent PoW / PoS , would have to flush this out.

Quote
Also, will the ICO allow participation for someone that does not have a local BTC wallet? I only ever use web wallets for BTC, and the automagic distribution of BRO to ICO buyers sounds to me as depending on access to one's BTC keys. Please elaborate.

Best of luck!
~ Myagui

@myagui - yes, the basic method would depend on a access to local BTC keys.  we are working on a solution that would enable the use of web wallets.

if anyone has some suggestions we would love to hear. bounties will be available.





Especially with Snowden revelations, we here in the USA know they can access our PC any time they like.
I know, there are solutions, but those are NOT available to most people.Learning curve is just too big to overcome. I had 13 BTC stolen from my computer back when it was about 30bux. I ONLY trust exchanges, and BLOCKCHAIN.

So, are you saying I cannot participate in ICO if I don't have a wallet on my computer prior to October 4th, when the ICO comes??? SHIT MAN, THAT SUX , if in fact true. I have NOT been this excited about a new coin since BTCD went public. I have been getting "my ducks in a row" since I first saw this thread. Now it looks like I can't participate early.... PLEASE tell me it ain't so!!  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

~darylluke.

It aint so.

we are working on a solution that would enable the use of web wallets.

You will be to participate in the ICO with a web wallet.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: darylluke on September 20, 2014, 08:47:05 PM
ofortuna,

Thanks. Not to offend, but I'd like to hear it from dev that it will be ready OCT. 4th, or prior....


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: JakeThePanda on September 20, 2014, 09:10:53 PM
Hold up!

I just read some of the literature.  Only in legal to play markets?  Will I have to give you ID to play and withdraw my coins?  

Hi JakeThePanda,

Poker and Casino will not be available in the USA. We will follow all applicable laws.

ID's (like driver's license?) shouldn't be required to play or withdraw coins.  It's the traditional payment processors that have stringent KYC requirements.



How will you know where I'm from if ID isn't required?  I guess there will be no playing poker with the pros considering most of them are from the USA.  :D :D :D

For US residents:

We will IP block USA poker/casino play until laws change.  Although some consider crypto poker to be a legal grey area and offer unlicensed poker to the USA, we feel that it's not worth the risk it brings to the project and all the big names behind it.  We are thinking long term.

All forms of Fantasy Sports are legal in every state with a few exceptions.

Many Pros have residences outside the US.  We're working with Gzesh so that the Pros, even while in the US, will be able to participate in planned poker promotions.  You will be able to play with the Pros.


Apparently, i won't be able to. that's quite disappointing.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: Malooka on September 20, 2014, 11:04:00 PM
For US residents:

We will IP block USA poker/casino play until laws change.  Although some consider crypto poker to be a legal grey area and offer unlicensed poker to the USA, we feel that it's not worth the risk it brings to the project and all the big names behind it.  We are thinking long term.

Is this a joke?  

What is the point of investing in this if one can't even play all the games?  And how will it ever achieve success while leaving out such a huge market?

I suppose the sportsbook I made reference to earlier won't be available to anyone in the US either?

This is not looking good, makes me reconsider to put it mildly.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: ofortuna on September 20, 2014, 11:29:35 PM
For US residents:

We will IP block USA poker/casino play until laws change.  Although some consider crypto poker to be a legal grey area and offer unlicensed poker to the USA, we feel that it's not worth the risk it brings to the project and all the big names behind it.  We are thinking long term.

Is this a joke?  

What is the point of investing in this if one can't even play all the games?  And how will it ever achieve success while leaving out such a huge market?

I suppose the sportsbook I made reference to earlier won't be available to anyone in the US either?

This is not looking good, makes me reconsider to put it mildly.


Although it would be great to have the US players, it didn't stop Amaya from recently buying Pokerstars and FT for $4.9 Billion.  They don't operate in the USA and offer only poker.

Perhaps Amaya feels poker will open up in the US?  I hope so.



Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: brother3 on September 21, 2014, 05:39:06 PM


Proof that you're working with pros?


Please check out the poker players' official Twitters for starters


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: masternode on September 21, 2014, 07:48:56 PM
I don't get it.  Why not just create a suite of online gambling sites that accepts crypto without exposing yourself to the downside of a failed coin?  99% of the coins that are released wind up as shitcoins offering little or no real innovation, and from what I've seen here I don't expect this coin to stand out in any meaningful way.

When you try to be everything you typically wind up with nothing, BRO.

-- the gaming platform with a built-in exchange will create a unique environment that can support BRO coin by providing unprecedented liquidity.

-- by creating a new coin, it enables the use of a small portion of the BRO pre-mine, to be widely distributed through freeroll contests.

-- BRO uses an innovative new proof-of-stake algorithm, which makes it a viable currency on its own as an alternative to bitcoin.

-- the coin and the platform each can survive on its own, but together they are both stronger.




Do you have any clue about what you're saying?

1.)  -- the gaming platform with a built-in exchange will create a unique environment that can support BRO coin by providing unprecedented liquidity.

Numerous online gambling sites have failed because it's a very competitive environment.  Likewise there are plenty of struggling exchanges in the crypto space that can't seem to attract liquidity.  You've explained nothing, only having made a grand claim that combining both of these is some sort of secret sauce that will magically make players or traders appear on their platform or exchange.  This claim is completely ridiculous.

the magic happens because the users are there for the games, we have fantasy esports games, for a younge demographic and fanatics of spectator esports.

Quote
2.)  -- by creating a new coin, it enables the use of a small portion of the BRO pre-mine, to be widely distributed through freeroll contests.

The coin needs to have some sort of value first.  If all they got is the idea that combing a gaming platform with an exchange will somehow create liquidity or value for the coin, then you'll most likely see freeroll contests with worthless prizes.
no its doesnt need value, only utility. but it has value , this value is a side effect of the various gaming laws and regulations

Quote
3.)  -- BRO uses an innovative new proof-of-stake algorithm, which makes it a viable currency on its own as an alternative to bitcoin.

Lol.  Please expand.  A currency requires people exchange with it.  Why exactly do I want to use this currency?  Is there somewhere for me to spend it other than a gambling site / exchange that probably won't have any players or use it on freerolls that have worthless prizes?  Without clearly answering they you plan to provide liquidity or find players for the gambling sites then this statement is a crock of shit.

much lulz back.. u win 5 Internets

its a coin, a token, its solves the nothing-at-stake problem. it maybe worthless, but it should still be in the top 10 market-cap, because its all worthless. including fiat, and cat memes

RTFM!
 
Quote
4.)  -- the coin and the platform each can survive on its own, but together they are both stronger.

Unless they are both worthless.  I hate to break it to you but 0 + 0 = 0.  And again you've made a ridiculous claim without any sort of reasonable explanation to back up why it will be stronger.  

something strange in your neighborhood....




who you gonna call???





FUD busters!
 ;D ;D ;D


fyi. i can answer any questions you have. just ask nicely.

Lol.  Actually your responses continue to fail to answer critical points.  It's embarassing what you try and pass off as acceptable logic as to why this scheme will work.  Then you try and brush it off as FUD not realizing that I'm a fairly established speculator / investor in the bitcoin community who simply doesn't understand how BRO can work as easily and with as much certainty as you claim.  FWIW, I'm also an ex professional poker player (WSOP bracelet winner), and I'm extremely knowledgable about the ins and outs of both the gambling industry and cryptocurrency ecosystem.  

But back to your comments:

"the magic happens because the users are there for the games, we have fantasy esports games, for a younge demographic and fanatics of spectator esports."

Again you make a ridiculous claim that the "users are there".  I'm sorry, but if only it was that easy to launch a business in a competitive environment and have the players just show up.  Take a close look at the ghost towns that exist in online poker.  

http://www.pokerscout.com/

Even Sealswithclubs really only has at most 300 to 400 cash players online at any given moment in time.  The most recent bitcoin poker site to launch is betcoinpoker.com, who has excellent software, but still remains a ghost town, showing that "if you build it, they will come" is not always the case.  

So without discussing marketing strategy in depth, or showing a logical offering that really is a different from the so many other gambling sites makes your claim that "users are there for the games" absolutely ridiculous.

Then there is your answer to the next question: "no its doesnt need value, only utility. but it has value , this value is a side effect of the various gaming laws and regulations"

According to this logic then every online gambling site has value.  Again a ridiculous claim.  Proof is all the ghost town pokersites listed on www.pokerscout.com.  But according to your logic "various gaming lawas and regulations" give them value.  Please expand on the various gaming laws (in detail) and the logic as to how they create value for Breakoutcoin.

"its a coin, a token, its solves the nothing-at-stake problem. it maybe worthless, but it should still be in the top 10 market-cap, because its all worthless. including fiat, and cat memes"

Again, you've done nothing other than say "it should still be in the top 10 market-cap" because all the others suck.  Great to see your investment criteria is so rigorous.  Good luck with that.

and then for the last one, rather than answer a questions you claim what I'm doing is spreading fud, when in reality i'm just asking for a clear logical reason why this will succeed.   Sorry if I don't ask nicely, maybe give a logical detailed answer and you'll get the respect you think you deserve.



Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: myagui on September 21, 2014, 10:36:45 PM
[...]
Considering that Bergstake is a significant innovation, sitting/waiting on it for two years of PoW is largely unattractive (in my mind).
Would you consider activating Bergstake sooner, perhaps having a stage of concurrent PoW and PoS?

Once POW ends and Bergstake starts,  it will be impossible to obtain more Bergstake. So whatever the distribution looks like at that point, will continue forever. The two years of mining  coupled with the ICO, should have the effect of distributing the Bergstake as widely as possible.

Think of the bergstake as an out-of-the money call option, or lottery ticket, that you get for free each time you solve POW. ICO investors will also get Bergstake.

In the limit as as POW time gets closer to 0 , the coin basically becomes a 100% pre-mine, which we do not want.

Interesting idea regarding concurrent PoW / PoS , would have to flush this out.

Bumping this quote just to ask if there's been further consideration to an earlier start to Bergstake, either by setting a shorter PoW period, or (preferably) by running concurrent PoW & PoS. This particular aspect might tip my decision of participating on the ICO or not.

Why I find this to be so important:
There's already a reasonable variety of altcoins based on cryptonote. Some of them offer certain unique features (within the 'cryptonote family'). Setting factors of utility and promotion aside, the significant technical innovation presented by BRO, is Bergstake. It is not reasonable to wait for a 2 year PoW period, before one can observe this feature at work.
Hell, in 2 years time, I'd expect that other developments, technical adjustments and rethinking would be appropriate, both driven by internal factors to BRO, and external ones pushed by the widespread alt community. In a way, I suppose that I'm finding that by the current schedule, Bergstake might be obsolete before it even get's a chance. I really like the concept, just not the timeframe.
 
~ Myagui


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: brother3 on September 21, 2014, 11:47:40 PM
Quote

Bumping this quote just to ask if there's been further consideration to an earlier start to Bergstake, either by setting a shorter PoW period, or (preferably) by running concurrent PoW & PoS. This particular aspect might tip my decision of participating on the ICO or not.

Why I find this to be so important:
There's already a reasonable variety of altcoins based on cryptonote. Some of them offer certain unique features (within the 'cryptonote family'). Setting factors of utility and promotion aside, the significant technical innovation presented by BRO, is Bergstake. It is not reasonable to wait for a 2 year PoW period, before one can observe this feature at work.
Hell, in 2 years time, I'd expect that other developments, technical adjustments and rethinking would be appropriate, both driven by internal factors to BRO, and external ones pushed by the widespread alt community. In a way, I suppose that I'm finding that by the current schedule, Bergstake might be obsolete before it even get's a chance. I really like the concept, just not the timeframe.
 
~ Myagui

You do have a very good point regarding the time frame.  Rest assure that we are entertaining all good ideas for BRO development.  
Your constructive input/criticism is very much appreciated.  


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: TippingPoint on September 22, 2014, 01:31:13 AM
Is the suggestion something like a 6 month PoW phase, followed by an 18 month phase shared by PoW and Bergstake (with the ratio based on the amount of capitalization or a fixed schedule), followed by Bergstake?

 


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: ofortuna on September 22, 2014, 03:28:21 AM


Proof that you're working with pros?


Please check out the poker players' official Twitters for starters

Link please? I don't follow poker twitters.

Hi Vald,

Here's a few tweets from the Poker Pros to check out!

https://twitter.com/BreakoutGaming

https://twitter.com/REALJenHarman/status/511709224775467009

https://twitter.com/back2backflack/status/511684185379987456

https://twitter.com/ForrestTed/status/511673494455599105

https://twitter.com/_DavidBenyamine/status/511745726192578560

https://twitter.com/ToddBrunson

https://twitter.com/HuckleberrySeed/status/511673142201573376



Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: 177sis on September 22, 2014, 03:48:04 PM
Is this coin launched,  how to get coins?


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: provenceday on September 22, 2014, 03:59:24 PM
Is this coin launched,  how to get coins?

it seems has not been launched yet.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: brother3 on September 22, 2014, 06:02:07 PM

it seems has not been launched yet.


Thanks for the kind words in your PMs, provenceday!  Nice to see you on the thread!


Is this coin launched,  how to get coins?

Coins will be offered during the ICO and you can also mine them during its 2 year POW phase.  The coins obtained via ICO and POW mining will have Bergstake,which gives the right to sign future blocks during the POS phase.  Bergstake differs from typical coins in that Bergstake is non-transferable and lasts forever.

The launch will be soon after the conclusion of ICO (which should start on Oct 7th and lasts for 2 weeks)

Watch for our official announcement thread with more exciting news...




Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on September 22, 2014, 06:08:09 PM
Lol.  Actually your responses continue to fail to answer critical points.  It's embarassing what you try and pass off as acceptable logic as to why this scheme will work.  Then you try and brush it off as FUD not realizing that I'm a fairly established speculator / investor in the bitcoin community who simply doesn't understand how BRO can work as easily and with as much certainty as you claim.  FWIW, I'm also an ex professional poker player (WSOP bracelet winner), and I'm extremely knowledgable about the ins and outs of both the gambling industry and cryptocurrency ecosystem.  

But back to your comments:.......
.....

By taking bullet points out of context and muddling facts with opinion, you are creating Fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD) .

I don't get it.  Why not just create a suite of online gambling sites that accepts crypto without exposing yourself to the downside of a failed coin?  99% of the coins that are released wind up as shitcoins offering little or no real innovation, and from what I've seen here I don't expect this coin to stand out in any meaningful way.

When you try to be everything you typically wind up with nothing, BRO.

You original question was why the gaming platform needs a new coin. and then you go on to say that most coins will fail, and that you don't expect this coin to stand out in any way.

-- the gaming platform with a built-in exchange will create a unique environment that can support BRO coin by providing unprecedented liquidity.

-- by creating a new coin, it enables the use of a small portion of the BRO pre-mine, to be widely distributed through freeroll contests.

-- BRO uses an innovative new proof-of-stake algorithm, which makes it a viable currency on its own as an alternative to bitcoin.

-- the coin and the platform each can survive on its own, but together they are both stronger.
Your question seems to lay down the assumption that the gaming platform can succeed without the coin. My bullet points highlights some possible reasons breakout gaming can benefit from breakout coin. It also highlights how BRO is innovative in itself.

You then take my bullet points out of context, and use them as a basis for your arguments. Again, my bulletpoints were on the assumption that the gaming platform is sound, and on the path of success independent of the coin.  

====================================================================

The question as to why any coin is needed in the first place, is totally arbitrary, and debatable.  Dodgecoin was started as a joke, yet was "successful". There was a full show on lets talk bitcoin debating the need for LTBcoin, which never got resolved, yet they went ahead and launched LTBcoin anyways.

To have a FUDless discussion, we need to setup the assumptions.

Lets start by totally separating the coin from the platform. Breakout gaming was seeking to incorporate new and innovative features to BRO. They approached me to design and implement BRO based on the innovations from my Satoshi Fantasy white paper.

-- BRO is a crypto-currency, an "alt-coin". It is no worse than any other alt-coin. In fact, it claims to finally solve all the issues plaguing Proof-of-stake.

-- Breakout Gaming is a gaming platform startup, with poker pros backers, and a strong marketing and promotion arm.

-- since BRO is distributed and decentralized, it will not have any hard connection to breakout gaming once launched. So ICO investors, should look at BRO by itself when deciding to invest or not.

-- all crypto-currencies are based on new experimental technology, and should be considered extremely speculative, there are many different ways investors can loose all their money.

if breakout gaming is successful and follows through to use BRO exclusively, and if BRO is a technical success, then there is a case to be made that both the coin and platform are stronger together than alone.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: bogdan_ulm on September 22, 2014, 06:14:55 PM
Read this topic 4 days ago and since then only new great stuff! Really excited about it, BRO.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on September 22, 2014, 06:25:25 PM
Is the suggestion something like a 6 month PoW phase, followed by an 18 month phase shared by PoW and Bergstake (with the ratio based on the amount of capitalization or a fixed schedule), followed by Bergstake?
 

shortening the PoW time window is something we are open to.  a shared PoW and Bergstake phase still needs to be flushed out. one idea is to have PoS interest during the PoW phase. having a phase with both PoW and PoS block signers has fundamental problems, that I have not yet seen resolved.



Title: Update
Post by: BreakoutCoin on September 22, 2014, 07:04:01 PM
The announcement thread has been delayed due to technical issues regarding the development of the initial coin purchase process. Please continue the discussion on this pre-announcement thread.  Once technicals have been resolved, we will make the announcement with all the details and close this thread.



Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on September 23, 2014, 05:22:42 AM
Looking forward to the specs and ICO price. Hopefully theyre good. I dont like ICOs but this might be the most promising ICO coin.

Hi cryptoholic11,

Thank you for your interest in BRO!

The coins purchased at the ICO will come with Bergstake.  After the ICO, there will be a 2 year PoW mining phase to insure a fair distribution of Bergstake before going full PoS.


How are you going to ensure the ICO is fair?  If there is one thing I know about poker players, it's that if there is an edge they will take it.  How can we guard against one of the pros swooping up the entire ICO in one order.  I can easily see that happening.  Do you know about how much BTC you are looking to raise?  What % of the total supply will be in the ICO?

details will come shortly. there will be enough coins to go around. the way it will be structured, it wont be possible for anyone purchase all the initial coins.

My mistake.  I think I know how it's going to be structured.  You will probably just divvy up the coins in proportion to the amount of BTC each person buys?
you didn't hear it from me, but there may an early bird discount. im watching too! #bro 

 :-* ;)



Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: megashira1 on September 23, 2014, 06:02:27 AM
-- since BRO is distributed and decentralized, it will not have any hard connection to breakout gaming once launched. So ICO investors, should look at BRO by itself when deciding to invest or not.

if breakout gaming is successful and follows through to use BRO exclusively, and if BRO is a technical success, then there is a case to be made that both the coin and platform are stronger together than alone.


Woah, woah, woah .. what do you mean if? The only value holding BRO coin would be that it is the exclusive coin used on the gaming platform, other than its just a scheme to acquire capital for breakout gaming.

How do i then invest into breakout gaming?


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on September 23, 2014, 06:20:54 AM
-- since BRO is distributed and decentralized, it will not have any hard connection to breakout gaming once launched. So ICO investors, should look at BRO by itself when deciding to invest or not.

if breakout gaming is successful and follows through to use BRO exclusively, and if BRO is a technical success, then there is a case to be made that both the coin and platform are stronger together than alone.

Woah, woah, woah .. what do you mean if? The only value holding BRO coin would be that it is the exclusive coin used on the gaming platform, other than its just a scheme to acquire capital for breakout gaming.

How do i then invest into breakout gaming?

chill BRO, its just a hypothetical. you should learn exactly what a crypto-currency is before investing anyways.

look at the context. of course BRO will be integrated and the exclusive currency of breakout gaming.. i was just pointing out the merits of the coin on its own.

and please remove the red bold text, once your satisfied. ty


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: ofortuna on September 23, 2014, 08:49:17 PM
-- since BRO is distributed and decentralized, it will not have any hard connection to breakout gaming once launched. So ICO investors, should look at BRO by itself when deciding to invest or not.

if breakout gaming is successful and follows through to use BRO exclusively, and if BRO is a technical success, then there is a case to be made that both the coin and platform are stronger together than alone. [/color][/size]

Woah, woah, woah .. what do you mean if? The only value holding BRO coin would be that it is the exclusive coin used on the gaming platform, other than its just a scheme to acquire capital for breakout gaming.

How do i then invest into breakout gaming?

Hi Megashira1,

Thank you for your question and the opportunity to clarify the relationship between BRO the coin and Breakout Gaming the online gaming company.

In order to place a wager on any of the Breakout Gaming platforms, you will need BRO.  We make this easy by supplying an integrated Exchange which will eventually offer trading of multiple currency pairs.  You can trade bitcoin to BRO and back.  You can trade litecoin to BRO and back.  As we add more coins to the Exchange, more and more of the crypto community will be welcomed into our gaming ecosystem.

However, BRO is also an open source decentralized coin with stand alone merits and innovations.  Breakout Gaming does not "own" the BRO coin.




Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: megashira1 on September 23, 2014, 09:18:52 PM
-- since BRO is distributed and decentralized, it will not have any hard connection to breakout gaming once launched. So ICO investors, should look at BRO by itself when deciding to invest or not.

if breakout gaming is successful and follows through to use BRO exclusively, and if BRO is a technical success, then there is a case to be made that both the coin and platform are stronger together than alone. [/color][/size]

Woah, woah, woah .. what do you mean if? The only value holding BRO coin would be that it is the exclusive coin used on the gaming platform, other than its just a scheme to acquire capital for breakout gaming.

How do i then invest into breakout gaming?

Hi Megashira1,

Thank you for your question and the opportunity to clarify the relationship between BRO the coin and Breakout Gaming the online gaming company.

In order to place a wager on any of the Breakout Gaming platforms, you will need BRO.  We make this easy by supplying an integrated Exchange which will eventually offer trading of multiple currency pairs.  You can trade bitcoin to BRO and back.  You can trade litecoin to BRO and back.  As we add more coins to the Exchange, more and more of the crypto community will be welcomed into our gaming ecosystem.

However, BRO is also an open source decentralized coin with stand alone merits and innovations.  Breakout Gaming does not "own" the BRO coin.

Ok, thanks for your response. Your post gives me much more confidence than the former.

However, I would like you to clarify: Does Breakout Gaming plan on accepting other cryptos alongside BRO, or BRO exclusively.. forever.

Also, how does one invest into Breakout Gaming itself?


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: statdude on September 24, 2014, 01:55:26 AM
Tell me more about gambling with BRO


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: coinspeed on September 24, 2014, 07:04:09 PM
Hi all,

Great initiative, but I have some questions:

I understand that BRO will be like chips to a casino, that is, if I want to play, I have to get some at the cashier. So far, this is straightforward,

BUT..

At a "traditional" casino or poker room, when I buy some chips for $100, I know that I will always be able to get back that $100 for those chips. With crypto, it's a little different. Let's say, the price suddenly drops 20% against BTC and BTC drops 5% against USD, and suddenly I only hold 75% value with my BRO coins. Of course, it can also go the other way, but the infamous volatility of crypto currencies will always be a barrier of entry to those who are not at least a little obsessed with crypto.
A solution could be to offer tokens with attached values either in USD or BTC.

Also, if BRO as a currency will be listed on the well known exchanges, you can bet your life on it, that it will be subject to massive p&d schemes, as soon as some serious players see an opportunity in the coin. My point is, that this exposure to heavy price fluctuations could scare off the high rollers from depositing large amounts into their accounts with Breakout Gaming.

This is just me thinking and I could be wrong :)



Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: BreakoutCoin on September 24, 2014, 07:29:53 PM
good question regarding volatility and price movements. however i just want to point out you use of the term "p&d schemes".

if BRO as a currency will be listed on the well known exchanges, you can bet your life on it, that it will be subject to massive p&d schemes, as soon as some serious players see an opportunity in the coin

a currency trading on an exchange does not really fit into the definition of a p&d scheme. even if this external exchange creates volatility, heavy trading, and brings in the  automated high-frequency trading bots, still this is all normal markets and not a p&d in any way. a p&d scheme is when false information and hype is used to pump a price for the purpose of selling at the higher prices. This is usually done during initial offerings of scam coins.

sometimes, a market can be manipulated to show a large spike up, only to crash back down. when looking at a huge spike in price at an exchange, make sure you look at the volume, low volume is an indication that there is no real buying, and price will drop back to where there is liquidity, as soon as sellers come in.




Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: brother3 on September 24, 2014, 11:08:41 PM
Tell me more about gambling with BRO

Which aspect?  I am not sure what you are asking...


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: victorteoh on September 26, 2014, 03:35:06 AM
I'm very intrigued but I wonder why the website is so empty?  ???


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: brother3 on September 26, 2014, 04:42:45 AM
I'm very intrigued but I wonder why the website is so empty?  ???

Assuming you are referring to http://breakoutgaming.com/ (http://breakoutgaming.com/) (our splash page)...

The announcement thread is coming soon which will have a link to the fundraiser website.
This website should have all relevant information that you are looking for.
  


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: Arbex on September 27, 2014, 05:53:14 AM
At a "traditional" casino or poker room, when I buy some chips for $100, I know that I will always be able to get back that $100 for those chips. With crypto, it's a little different. Let's say, the price suddenly drops 20% against BTC and BTC drops 5% against USD, and suddenly I only hold 75% value with my BRO coins. Of course, it can also go the other way, but the infamous volatility of crypto currencies will always be a barrier of entry to those who are not at least a little obsessed with crypto.
A solution could be to offer tokens with attached values either in USD or BTC.

Another point about using crypto-based chips versus USD-based chips.  Yes, the value of the crypto-based chip will vary over time relative to the USD or BTC.  And that could hurt or help somewhat, depending on how long the holding period and how big the move.  For those who like the gaming and not the downside (and upside) potential, they can just buy-in and cash-out each session.  Then that exchange variability is pretty small, especially relative to the gaming. 

On the suggestion of offering alternative chips based on BRO, USD or BTC, imagine the consequences.  Chips in the same game at the same time wouldn't have -- nor be perceived to have -- the same value, and even those could change through time.  So every casino has to have the same base for all their chips.  That way entries and payouts have a common worth (unit of account).  Makes for an even playing field, and a lot simpler.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: J9901 on September 27, 2014, 01:27:28 PM
i dont think this has been well thought out


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: mandular on September 27, 2014, 01:35:42 PM
Tell me more about gambling with BRO

Which aspect?  I am not sure what you are asking...

Is there any place to play with BRO ?


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: megashira1 on September 27, 2014, 03:54:41 PM
Platform should accept bitUSD instead.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: brother3 on September 27, 2014, 09:00:45 PM
i dont think this has been well thought out

Your insight is appreciated, but there is not enough information released to the public at this time.
Stay tuned...


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: Arbex on September 27, 2014, 10:59:11 PM
Platform should accept bitUSD instead.

Yes, BitUSD, like litecoin, dogecoin and darkcoin, will likely be among the first cryptos to be exchanged for BRO.
But "instead" of BRO?  Consider these related issues.

1. BitUSD's tie to USD is good as a steady unit of account to purchase merchandise, but it hardly seems well matched for those who choose to be in the crypto and gaming community, for which BRO is designed.  For any gamers who don't want the volatility, they can cash-out of BRO when they choose.  For those who welcome the risk for potential gain, BitUSD offers... about the least variability possible.

2. BRO is inherently a global coin. USD, while being the "world's reserve currency", isn't everybody's base currency. Around 2/3 of fiat to crypto exchange involves CNY.  While BitShares is leading edge, BitUSD locks its users to the fiat banking system's flagship, the USD.

3. BitUSD implements the BitShares structure created for widely varied, distributed autonomous companies.  As such BitUSD lacks the many selected coin features of BRO, like improved Proof-of-Stake, privacy options, fixed block rewards, etc.  Reading through the list, you'll see what the BitUSD holders would be missing.


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: coinspeed on October 02, 2014, 05:33:11 PM
I would expect more professionalism with regards to publicity prior to an ICO. We need daily info leaks, guys!

Just take a look at the latest, highly successful ICO: ARCHcoin



Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: jaybny on October 02, 2014, 09:49:19 PM
ANN thread coming in a couple of hours....


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: brother3 on October 03, 2014, 12:15:15 AM
I would expect more professionalism with regards to publicity prior to an ICO. We need daily info leaks, guys!

Just take a look at the latest, highly successful ICO: ARCHcoin



Appologies, we have been working overtime.

On with the good stuff :)


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: brother3 on October 03, 2014, 03:09:51 AM

Here is our announcement thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=808648.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=808648.0)

And Website

http://www.breakoutcoin.com/ (http://www.breakoutcoin.com/)

Enjoy and thanks for your patience!


Title: Re: [Pre-ANN][BRO] BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | BottlessNight | Gaming Platform +
Post by: BreakoutCoin on June 13, 2016, 07:19:41 AM
Please go to the Breakout Chain Thread Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1509819.msg15185942#msg15185942)

Brief Backstory

The thread above is the thread for a coin called "Brocoin" commissioned by "Breakout Coin", a coin company. Brocoin was never implemented, due to lack of funds. The original developer , Jay Berg,  was a hired consultant, and we were not able to keep him full-time. Jay moved on to a new exciting project,  Protoblock.com.

The Breakout Coin project hired a new developer, James Stroud, who completed a ground breaking coin, called "Breakout Chain", with help from, and features inspired by Jay's "Bergstake". Breakout Chain not only has a innovative staking mechanism, but is also a Proof-of-Work chain with many novel existing and planned features. Breakout Chain's features are designed to complement Breakout Coin's business model of seeding mass adoption by providing promotional funds to promising businesses.

You can read more at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1509819.msg15185942#msg15185942, and the Breakout Coin website (http://www.breakoutcoin.com).