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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: chong ching on September 16, 2014, 09:43:17 AM



Title: scam betting sites
Post by: chong ching on September 16, 2014, 09:43:17 AM
I am making a list of every betting site that closed after stealing the coins of all of its users.

Post here every site that you know of (mtgox also counts in my book).

Also post the websites you suspect as next in line to bail with users funds, state that it is only a suspicion and not a site that ran away with coins.

Lets make BTC bets a safer place for us all.


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Edited Section:

Evil list:

Empty for now (help us protect ourselves against scams - fill the list!)


Inconclusive:

1. shibaroll:
This site is down/frozen and once you deposit you'll never be able to withdraw it again. They're just ready to take your doge ;).

No opposition yet

2. dicebitco.in:
Here is the answer to all scam accuisations :  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789339.0
against-
I got re-funded in full by dicebitco.in.
They are paying for who got cheated (skipping nonce) by DiceBitCo.in
They explain everything clearly  :)
(Mind that two very similar url's lead to different places - dicebit.co.in leads to Prime Dice (well established) whereas dicebitco.in is under discussion here)

3. anonnibet:
And what about Anonibet? I heard them to be accused of being scam site too.
yet no proof has been shown or linked on this thread


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: azguard on September 16, 2014, 09:49:15 AM
I totally agree with you
if you want to create list lest start with this

http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million (http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million)

if you think you can manage this create a list with this.
Site name article or blog post for that site and so on.....

good luck with this if intend to keep it going.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: AirFlame on September 16, 2014, 11:57:12 AM
Wow this sux. This gambling site need to be ddos :)

Hehehe when i enter this site it says PROFIT: -296.17561886 :D


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: bitcoincasino.info on September 16, 2014, 02:39:47 PM
Great Awesome idea!!! I was really shocked with DiceBitco.in as they have purchased unique review on our website around 2 weeks ago. I`ve tried to contact their manager in skype to get any comments about that scam article about dicebitcoin, but still have not received anything yet.

I will check your post as often as possible. Good luck!


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: Stars on September 16, 2014, 02:47:57 PM
Dicebit.co.in.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: Rating Place on September 16, 2014, 05:30:07 PM
Sportsbooks

Bitcoinlivebets
Blockbet
StakeBTC
Bitcoinsport
Bitbook
Coinbet

Predicted next to go under:
Webetcoins
Betbanks (it's not the book but the agent Don)

Predicted to go under after the NFL season:
DirectBet


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0)


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: Schnudelu on September 16, 2014, 05:31:47 PM
This topic is a very good idea it will help to avoid more scams from this websites maybe some admin can pin that topic :)


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: chong ching on September 16, 2014, 06:07:02 PM
I totally agree with you
if you want to create list lest start with this

http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million (http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million)

if you think you can manage this create a list with this.
Site name article or blog post for that site and so on.....

good luck with this if intend to keep it going.


Great idea.

I will only post that a website is fraudulent if sufficient proof  is present.

First example:
Will be added to evil list.
http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million (http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million) is sufficient proof.

Second example:
Link leads to primedice which are pretty solid. Unless you can bring more evidence of malpractice, I will not include them in the evil list.
Dicebit.co.in.

This topic is a very good idea it will help to avoid more scams from this websites maybe some admin can pin that topic :)

Thank you, this is exactly what I am trying to do here.



Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: koshgel on September 16, 2014, 06:13:23 PM
Sportsbooks

Bitcoinlivebets
Blockbet
StakeBTC
Bitcoinsport
Bitbook
Coinbet

Predicted next to go under:
Webetcoins
Betbanks (it's not the book but the agent Don)

Predicted to go under after the NFL season:
DirectBet


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0)

LOL. Bitbook was the most reliable book. They gave all users an opportunity to withdraw funds before they were forced to shut down from DDOS.

Can we add Peeps Place to the scam list? This guy is a riot


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: arxwn on September 16, 2014, 06:14:31 PM
Everybody that is not working on the chain can scam its customers.

My suggestion is to use sites that work on the chain with zero trust and provably fair, that is the bitcoin way.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: Rating Place on September 16, 2014, 06:15:41 PM
Sportsbooks

Bitcoinlivebets
Blockbet
StakeBTC
Bitcoinsport
Bitbook
Coinbet

Predicted next to go under:
Webetcoins
Betbanks (it's not the book but the agent Don)

Predicted to go under after the NFL season:
DirectBet


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0)

LOL. Bitbook was the most reliable book. They gave all users an opportunity to withdraw funds before they were forced to shut down from DDOS.

Can we add Peeps Place to the scam list? This guy is a riot
Bitbook gave players a 7 day window to withdraw funds. The window was extended to 10 days. Some players did not read the forum during this 10 day window and were not paid.

 Most sportsbooks will have problems with DDoS attacks. Sometimes the attackers will ask for a ransom to discontinue the attacks. All of the big fiat books have gone through it. It's up to the book to fix the problem.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: b!z on September 16, 2014, 08:10:57 PM
Wow this sux. This gambling site need to be ddos :)

Hehehe when i enter this site it says PROFIT: -296.17561886 :D

Can you please explain why you believe engaging in an illegal distributed denial of service attack is a good idea?

I personally do not think it is. If you have a problem, there are more reasonable and legal ways to deal with them.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: azguard on September 17, 2014, 05:20:45 AM
List is filling slowly.
Can you all, post some article or some text about this like in my post.

pls 10x all


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: Itsumo on September 17, 2014, 07:34:20 AM
This topic is a very good idea it will help to avoid more scams from this websites maybe some admin can pin that topic :)

Helps the newbies too!


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: monnecon on September 17, 2014, 07:38:25 AM
I am making a list of every betting site that closed after stealing the coins of all of its users.

Post here every site that you know of (mtgox also counts in my book).

Also post the websites you suspect as next in line to bail with users funds, state that it is only a suspicion and not a site that ran away with coins.

Lets make BTC bets a safer place for us all.

Good luck mate


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: bitcoincasino.info on September 17, 2014, 09:04:13 AM
I totally agree with you
if you want to create list lest start with this

http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million (http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million)

if you think you can manage this create a list with this.
Site name article or blog post for that site and so on.....

good luck with this if intend to keep it going.


I have received answer from their manager through email:

Quote
Let me update you on this manner.

On 7th of September, we came aware of a malicious code inserted in our roll dice code, from a 3rd party coder we have hired to help us out with the load. Gerry, my partner, did the mistake to make a push of an admin'update' he was helping him with, without testing it thoroughly. The code which went live on 29th of August, was giving him the ability to'skip' winning nonces(in detail, he could put some criteria - for insance, if the user wants to win x amount of btc with odd higher than y, if the roll would be a winner it would skip the nonce and roll it again). That didnt infect everyone nor by default though. He had to chose manually which player to 'cheat'.That was a totally stupid way to implement it though, since if you were doing that, the bets could NOT be verified, since the nonce sequence would be broken. A user of ours found out by accident, on 7th of September. When we confirmed it, we haulted betting for everyone till we roll back the previous admin version, and made sure the rolls are as they have to be: provably fair. In addition, we refunded EVERY PLAYER who lost his coins due to this malicious code, from our own stash of bitcoins(and not sites' or investors). We took full responsibility for the mistake, and we paid for it. Of course, that was ubber gift for competitors especially PRCdice and PrimeDice, which kept throwing oil in the flames creating a near bank-run(investors started pulling out their coins like crazy brcause they thought we are scammers. However, given the fact that we didnt run with 7500 coins(!!)and we never haulted withdrawals/divests, nullifies it. In around 24h from the incident the bankroll shrinked from 7500 coins to ~1700, and we had one user, mateo, which was hitting the bankroll non stop for almost 12h more. Lot of speculation exists as well for that user, however he is a legit user and registered on site start of august(when we didnt have the other guy hired yet). Also, when the incident happened on 7th of September, he also randomized his rolls(and reset nonce) in order to verify if he got affected by the malixious code(he was -33 BTC before 7th of September, and no he wasnt affected). Given that fact plus that he randomized his rolls, there is 0% chance it could be someone that knew the server seed and played against it.

What are we finalizing now is to repay even the acounts that got affected by skipped rolls, EVEN if they ended up with profit. Again, we will pay that from our own stash.

Bottom line, even if you read that link, you will see at the end that the user in question was fully refunded. The'steal over 3m$' is complete bollox, and makes no sense at all. BankRoll was 7500, whixh means we COULD STEAL 3m$, but we didnt. Everything that is missing is from investors who pulled out their own coins. You can double-check that and in that post, and on forums. Not only we never stole one btc, but we did return ~6k btc to date back to whoever requested it. They try very hard to take DB down, but we wont do them the favour!

PS we are preparing also a nice post for thr forum, which will (re)explain exactly what happened, among with every user eho got affected. I repeat, all users with negative balance got refunded to the last BTC, and all the skipped rolls for users who ended up with profit anyways, will be credited as well(despite they ended up with profit). All withdrawals and divestings were honoured, and the roll is working flawesly again after 7th of September(anyone can verify by themself as well).

I`m not trying to protect dicebitcoin brand reputation or anything like that, but lets wait and analyze all the facts from both sides, before we will make any crucial decisions.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: azguard on September 17, 2014, 09:32:25 AM
Noted this was only link that i found randomly on every day reading.




Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: Stars on September 17, 2014, 11:52:30 AM
I totally agree with you
if you want to create list lest start with this

http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million (http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million)

if you think you can manage this create a list with this.
Site name article or blog post for that site and so on.....

good luck with this if intend to keep it going.


Great idea.

I will only post that a website is fraudulent if sufficient proof  is present.

First example:
Will be added to evil list.
http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million (http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million) is sufficient proof.

Second example:
Link leads to primedice which are pretty solid. Unless you can bring more evidence of malpractice, I will not include them in the evil list.
Dicebit.co.in.

This topic is a very good idea it will help to avoid more scams from this websites maybe some admin can pin that topic :)

Thank you, this is exactly what I am trying to do here.




I bet on dicebit.co.in, I was doing anywhere from 0.1-4 BTC bets on 10x payout, and when ever I was due to win the nonce would skip and give me a different number causing me to lose. I verified all my bets where the nonce skipped and they were all winners. If their code wasn't rigged, I would have walked away with 61.8 BTC. So yeah, I'd appreciate it if you could include them on your list. I can provide proof if needed.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: chong ching on September 17, 2014, 10:05:42 PM
I totally agree with you
if you want to create list lest start with this

http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million (http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million)

if you think you can manage this create a list with this.
Site name article or blog post for that site and so on.....

good luck with this if intend to keep it going.


Great idea.

I will only post that a website is fraudulent if sufficient proof  is present.

First example:
Will be added to evil list.
http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million (http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million) is sufficient proof.

Second example:
Link leads to primedice which are pretty solid. Unless you can bring more evidence of malpractice, I will not include them in the evil list.
Dicebit.co.in.

This topic is a very good idea it will help to avoid more scams from this websites maybe some admin can pin that topic :)

Thank you, this is exactly what I am trying to do here.




I bet on dicebit.co.in, I was doing anywhere from 0.1-4 BTC bets on 10x payout, and when ever I was due to win the nonce would skip and give me a different number causing me to lose. I verified all my bets where the nonce skipped and they were all winners. If their code wasn't rigged, I would have walked away with 61.8 BTC. So yeah, I'd appreciate it if you could include them on your list. I can provide proof if needed.

I see that dicebit.co.in have no one to speak for them so I will take you on your word unless proven otherwise.

The only problem here is that their url leads to primedice, and so it could discredit them for no good reason (especially for newbies). How would you suggest I add them to the evil list in a way that is not harmful towards primedice?


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: arxwn on September 18, 2014, 05:10:05 AM
Which of these sites work onchain and are marketing as provably fair ?


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: bitcoincasino.info on September 19, 2014, 02:26:51 PM
Why there is no new information about any other scam casinos? lol
Maybe this thread was created by any of dicebitcoin competitors with only reason - to decrease reputation of their brand?!

or there is really none of "scam" brands left?


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: Stars on September 19, 2014, 02:34:31 PM
I totally agree with you
if you want to create list lest start with this

http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million (http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million)

if you think you can manage this create a list with this.
Site name article or blog post for that site and so on.....

good luck with this if intend to keep it going.


Great idea.

I will only post that a website is fraudulent if sufficient proof  is present.

First example:
Will be added to evil list.
http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million (http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million) is sufficient proof.

Second example:
Link leads to primedice which are pretty solid. Unless you can bring more evidence of malpractice, I will not include them in the evil list.
Dicebit.co.in.

This topic is a very good idea it will help to avoid more scams from this websites maybe some admin can pin that topic :)

Thank you, this is exactly what I am trying to do here.




I bet on dicebit.co.in, I was doing anywhere from 0.1-4 BTC bets on 10x payout, and when ever I was due to win the nonce would skip and give me a different number causing me to lose. I verified all my bets where the nonce skipped and they were all winners. If their code wasn't rigged, I would have walked away with 61.8 BTC. So yeah, I'd appreciate it if you could include them on your list. I can provide proof if needed.

I see that dicebit.co.in have no one to speak for them so I will take you on your word unless proven otherwise.

The only problem here is that their url leads to primedice, and so it could discredit them for no good reason (especially for newbies). How would you suggest I add them to the evil list in a way that is not harmful towards primedice?


https://dicebitco.in/ does not lead to PD.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: DiceBitcoin on September 20, 2014, 12:15:00 AM
Here is the answer to all scam accuisations :  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789339.0

User also in question here, Stars,  if kindly can confirm if he got credited all his winning nonces as well(he was one of the guys who got affected even with positive profit!)


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: chong ching on September 20, 2014, 12:20:16 AM
I totally agree with you
if you want to create list lest start with this

http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million (http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million)

if you think you can manage this create a list with this.
Site name article or blog post for that site and so on.....

good luck with this if intend to keep it going.


Great idea.

I will only post that a website is fraudulent if sufficient proof  is present.

First example:
Will be added to evil list.
http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million (http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million) is sufficient proof.

Second example:
Link leads to primedice which are pretty solid. Unless you can bring more evidence of malpractice, I will not include them in the evil list.
Dicebit.co.in.

This topic is a very good idea it will help to avoid more scams from this websites maybe some admin can pin that topic :)

Thank you, this is exactly what I am trying to do here.




I bet on dicebit.co.in, I was doing anywhere from 0.1-4 BTC bets on 10x payout, and when ever I was due to win the nonce would skip and give me a different number causing me to lose. I verified all my bets where the nonce skipped and they were all winners. If their code wasn't rigged, I would have walked away with 61.8 BTC. So yeah, I'd appreciate it if you could include them on your list. I can provide proof if needed.

I see that dicebit.co.in have no one to speak for them so I will take you on your word unless proven otherwise.

The only problem here is that their url leads to primedice, and so it could discredit them for no good reason (especially for newbies). How would you suggest I add them to the evil list in a way that is not harmful towards primedice?


https://dicebitco.in/ does not lead to PD.

You are of course right, the link you wrote does not lead to PD. However, please note the extra dot in the url I wrote(dicebit.co.in), that makes all the difference.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: chong ching on September 20, 2014, 12:31:34 AM
OP edited for the first time to summarize the debate as it stands now.

Please help this thread grow and tell others where you have been duped.

You do not have to limit yourselves to dice sites, this thread is here for your protection!

Why there is no new information about any other scam casinos? lol
Maybe this thread was created by any of dicebitcoin competitors with only reason - to decrease reputation of their brand?!

or there is really none of "scam" brands left?

I can assure you that I have no personal interest in dicebitcoin or in the field of dice in general.

Trying to discredit it does the crypto community a disservice.

I join you in your call to list more sites here, as I am sure that their are plenty more to report.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: Stars on September 20, 2014, 02:31:10 AM
I got re-funded in full by dicebitco.in.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: BAGOBO on September 20, 2014, 02:47:17 AM
I got re-funded in full by dicebitco.in.

that's great

They are paying for who got cheated (skipping nonce) by DiceBitCo.in
They explain everything clearly  :)

Hope they will re-gain a positive trust in this forum
when the time has come


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: chong ching on September 21, 2014, 10:09:37 AM
I got re-funded in full by dicebitco.in.

that's great

They are paying for who got cheated (skipping nonce) by DiceBitCo.in
They explain everything clearly  :)

Hope they will re-gain a positive trust in this forum
when the time has come

This is great news indeed. If no one else has anything to say against them, I will remove them from the "Inconclusive" list and move them to "archive" with a reference to your post.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: Dillar on September 21, 2014, 11:23:47 AM
And what about Anonibet? I heard them to be accused of being scam site too.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: chong ching on September 23, 2014, 05:00:41 PM
And what about Anonibet? I heard them to be accused of being scam site too.

Can tou provide any kind of proof?

Or perhaps link to the source of your claims?


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: Rating Place on September 23, 2014, 05:18:36 PM
And what about Anonibet? I heard them to be accused of being scam site too.

Can tou provide any kind of proof?

Or perhaps link to the source of your claims?

The accusations were made by ghosts/shills from DirectBet on a daily basis. Now that DirectBet doesn't post as much anymore, he has stopped using ghosts/shills and the complaints have stopped.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: arxwn on September 23, 2014, 06:00:23 PM
Has anybody used http://www.badbitcoin.org/ to get a certificate of proper use ?


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: Legend_ on September 23, 2014, 07:05:56 PM
And what about Anonibet? I heard them to be accused of being scam site too.

anonibet scammed me and others 22 btc in world cup and facebook contests...

i opened scam thread with proof https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697256.0

not only me see their thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55365.msg7845634#msg7845634

now after this they look for new fish to scam in casino... they say their casino is provably fair... BUT IT IS NOT!!! i ask for provably fair verification but they dont have it..

i try to report also in peeps place list but he delete my posts i think he help them scam!


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: Rating Place on September 23, 2014, 09:20:32 PM
And what about Anonibet? I heard them to be accused of being scam site too.

anonibet scammed me and others 22 btc in world cup and facebook contests...

i opened scam thread with proof https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697256.0

not only me see their thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55365.msg7845634#msg7845634

now after this they look for new fish to scam in casino... they say their casino is provably fair... BUT IT IS NOT!!! i ask for provably fair verification but they dont have it..

i try to report also in peeps place list but he delete my posts i think he help them scam!


The Anonibet contest was thoroughly looked into to find out when players signed up at bitcointalk, when they opened accounts at Anonibet and their bitcoin wallet addresses to check payment history. I asked about their betting history. The poster here Legend is the only one that failed to give permission to access any of his information.

Legend's statement about two of the accounts being newbie accounts is untrue. Anonibet has stated that they have information showing that Legend is linked to DirectBet. I told Legend if he allowed me to look into the information that Anonibet has obtained I would open up the case again. Legend has refused.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: Legend_ on September 23, 2014, 10:24:15 PM
And what about Anonibet? I heard them to be accused of being scam site too.

anonibet scammed me and others 22 btc in world cup and facebook contests...

i opened scam thread with proof https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697256.0

not only me see their thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55365.msg7845634#msg7845634

now after this they look for new fish to scam in casino... they say their casino is provably fair... BUT IT IS NOT!!! i ask for provably fair verification but they dont have it..

i try to report also in peeps place list but he delete my posts i think he help them scam!


The Anonibet contest was thoroughly looked into to find out when players signed up at bitcointalk, when they opened accounts at Anonibet and their bitcoin wallet addresses to check payment history. I asked about their betting history. The poster here Legend is the only one that failed to give permission to access any of his information.

Legend's statement about two of the accounts being newbie accounts is untrue. Anonibet has stated that they have information showing that Legend is linked to DirectBet. I told Legend if he allowed me to look into the information that Anonibet has obtained I would open up the case again. Legend has refused.

peeps place U LIER I answer all your messages u never ask to look my account...

u told me u will down grade anonibet if I post anonibet scam in your thread but after I did that u delete all my posts to hide anonibet scam...

I hear they pay u to shut up... u think we stupid???

I put 70+ bets on anonibet with my own money to take lead in world cup contest... I post all bets in anonibet thread and immediately after that anonibet send employee to beat me to keep money for them...

BUT!!! anonibet employee forgot to delete anonibet logo and address from his facebook page!!! 

that's how I catch anonibet SCAM!!!

look anonibet contest winner has facebook page with anonibet logo and address in contact info...

peeps place talk blah blah blah I give REAL PROOF!!!



http://s14.postimg.org/wvpk32v8x/Anonibet1.jpg

http://s1.postimg.org/p04ccegnj/Anonibet2.jpg

http://s25.postimg.org/w0s2dcme7/Anonibet3.jpg



Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: Rating Place on September 24, 2014, 01:13:15 AM
Legend - I'll ask again otherwise this is a mute point. If I can post all information that Anonibet has on you then I will reopen the case. They claim that you are some way connected to DirectBet.

You have made posts that are untrue concerning this case. I'm not going to proceed further without consent. Here is a quote by Anonibet.

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WARNING ABOUT LEGEND_ (PAID POSTER)

Anonibet was launched in 2011 and is serving over 10 thousand satisfied customers. No one has ever complained about not being paid or whatsoever by Anonibet.

You tailored some arguments to tarnish our reputation on the world cup contest. We know who you are, you a paid poster and you are paid by a newbie bookmaker which tries to grab some BTC from the community and which will disappear soon. When your boss (master, chief, owner whatever he orders you to call him) will SCAM and DISAPPEAR with the BTC of its few clients (we guess he has only 20-30) we will then pass to the community all the information we have about you. So the people your boss has scammed can pursue you and get back their BTC from you, since you are a part of the plan.

You have no single post about anything, all you posts are baseless accusations about Anonibet. We hope that your boss (master, chief, owner whatever he orders you to call him) is paying you well because you will have to to pay all the scammed BTC when he will leave you all alone facing all these (20-30 max) conned customers.

Michael Hoshford


Since there have been new sign ups that come in with the sole purpose of promoting DirectBet, I delete all promotional material from DirectBet
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Future posts quoting DirectBet/their shills/ghosts will be deleted in whole. Please post your thoughts without any of their promotional material or views on others.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: Legend_ on September 24, 2014, 07:33:55 AM
Legend - I'll ask again otherwise this is a mute point. If I can post all information that Anonibet has on you then I will reopen the case.

sorry mr peeps place u can not help because u r anonibet solider... u help them SCAM!!!

u also LIER... I never advertise any company in your thread I only post to warn people on anonibet because they cheated me and u delete all my posts to hide anonibet scams!



Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: Rating Place on September 24, 2014, 12:31:17 PM
Legend - I'll ask again otherwise this is a mute point. If I can post all information that Anonibet has on you then I will reopen the case.

sorry mr peeps place u can not help because u r anonibet solider... u help them SCAM!!!

u also LIER... I never advertise any company in your thread I only post to warn people on anonibet because they cheated me and u delete all my posts to hide anonibet scams!





Most of the time you pretend that your English is bad. Every once in a while you forget and post in perfect English. No one is fooled by you.

Legend
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I placed 70+ bets on your site and you don't consider me a customer???

... I stopped when I suspected that I am competing against anonibet employees!


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: Lady_Cake on September 24, 2014, 01:43:23 PM
Can you say me a good site for betting using btc?


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: chong ching on September 24, 2014, 02:13:37 PM


peeps place U LIER I answer all your messages u never ask to look my account...

u told me u will down grade anonibet if I post anonibet scam in your thread but after I did that u delete all my posts to hide anonibet scam...

I hear they pay u to shut up... u think we stupid???

I put 70+ bets on anonibet with my own money to take lead in world cup contest... I post all bets in anonibet thread and immediately after that anonibet send employee to beat me to keep money for them...

BUT!!! anonibet employee forgot to delete anonibet logo and address from his facebook page!!! 

that's how I catch anonibet SCAM!!!

look anonibet contest winner has facebook page with anonibet logo and address in contact info...

peeps place talk blah blah blah I give REAL PROOF!!!




Proof is what this thread is all about.
The thing is that trying to base anything on writing style, ghosts etc' as well as on incomplete arguments saying someone is a scammer without looking at the cold hard facts will not get us anywhere. Facts are facts and thus cannot be dismissed as coming from anonibet, directbet or anyone else for that matter.

Posts are not deleted here and ghosts can post as much as they want but people will be smart enough to listen to whoever best explains himself and presents the best arguments and above all - proof.

Can you please explain to the best of your ability and as brief as possible, using normal readable font and the best English you can (if you need the help of a friend please do so), so that people can get the point you are making.

In your explanation, please state the following:
1. What was promised.
2. What happened instead.
3. How did the image you posted prove it.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: chong ching on September 24, 2014, 02:30:07 PM
Can you say me a good site for betting using btc?

This is a good question. Can you please say what kind of betting you would like to make (dice, games, sports... ) so that others may give you advice?


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: Lady_Cake on September 24, 2014, 02:33:59 PM
Can you say me a good site for betting using btc?

This is a good question. Can you please say what kind of betting you would like to make (dice, games, sports... ) so that others may give you advice?

Yes sorry my bad..
I would like to make sports betting.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: CoolRunnings21 on September 25, 2014, 03:23:39 AM
I would say http://satoshiroulette.com/ is a scam site. They wont per say steal your money but they do at the same time. A 0.001 sic bo bet will only pay out 0.0013 its used to be 0.0019 to cover for the fee. It seems every couple of weeks they have slowly added more price to the fee. So for a bet that should pay close to 1:1 they are paying 1:3. Also it is slow as fuck sending back bets.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: chong ching on September 25, 2014, 09:56:44 AM
I would say http://satoshiroulette.com/ is a scam site. They wont per say steal your money but they do at the same time. A 0.001 sic bo bet will only pay out 0.0013 its used to be 0.0019 to cover for the fee. It seems every couple of weeks they have slowly added more price to the fee. So for a bet that should pay close to 1:1 they are paying 1:3. Also it is slow as fuck sending back bets.

Why would you say this is a scam?

Could it be that they are just raising the price (which is legitimate) or could they be doing so without letting their users know (scam)?

Also, what do you mean by, slow at sending payouts? Is it so slow that you are concerned they will stop sending payouts altogether?


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: arxwn on September 25, 2014, 02:12:52 PM
I would say http://satoshiroulette.com/ is a scam site. They wont per say steal your money but they do at the same time. A 0.001 sic bo bet will only pay out 0.0013 its used to be 0.0019 to cover for the fee. It seems every couple of weeks they have slowly added more price to the fee. So for a bet that should pay close to 1:1 they are paying 1:3. Also it is slow as fuck sending back bets.

I run a gambling site (http://www.satoshihunt.com (http://www.satoshihunt.com))and I know the pain of slow paybacks as it irritates the customers.
For that reason I've argued that for small amounts 1 confirmation ought to be enough.
Big sites like luckybit pay back while still uncorfimed but they have some proprietary algos that make sure their risk remains low.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: Legend_ on September 25, 2014, 04:40:49 PM
I caught anonibet scam 4 times..

if u know more scams please post them in my anonibet scams thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697256.0

anonibet scam # 1

anonibet had world cup contest with 20 btc prize, 10 btc for first, 5 btc for second, 3 btc for third and 2 btc for unlucky bet

I played in this contest I placed many bets for many days and won 65 points... at that time first place had only 9 points so I had big big lead!

I had to lose 0.55 btc to win so many points but my plan was to lose little to get big prize

anonibet ask me in chat to post my bets in their thread here for contest or else I can not win any prize so I open this account and post my bets here is proof https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55365.msg7590389#msg7590389

As soon as I posted my bets all of a sudden two complete newbies accounts came in and posted tons of BIG bets, just enough to beat me.

I suspected it was Anonibet playing in their own contest but I had no way to prove it... I knew I have no chance to win them so I stop play... bye bye 0.55 btc...

then after contest was over I found that one of the winners has facebook page with anonibet logo and address in contact info... also his facebook page was open in 2011 when anonibet open... this is the proof that anonibet played in their own contest to keep prize for them.

http://s14.postimg.org/wvpk32v8x/Anonibet1.jpg

http://s1.postimg.org/p04ccegnj/Anonibet2.jpg

http://s25.postimg.org/w0s2dcme7/Anonibet3.jpg

immediately after I post this scam anonibet deleted this facebook page to hide the scam so I showed cached version on google of original facebook page with anonibet address in contact info!! after anonibet learn they can not hide the past they put the facebook page back up but removed all links to anonibet.com from the contact info... mmm... clearly an over reaction, trying to get rid of evidence... that's what u do when u have something to hide...

now I tell everyone on this scam to revenge anonibet and teach them it is not worth to scam us players!

anonibet say I am paid poster but no one pay me to post I do this to revenge anonibet!

I put 70+ bets with my own money and posted them in anonibet thread before anonibet created new bitcoin talk accounts to cheat me in contest... this is proof that i wanted to play in anonibet contest and not to fight them!

u can see contest winner anonitips create his bitcoin talk account few hours after I post my bets for contest...

anonibet scam # 2

anonibet had 2 btc meme contest in facebook... they changed the rules after the contest was already over and did not award the winnings to the person who was supposed to win it based on the rules that were announced before the contest... that's now a total scam of 22 btc!!!

see here, this guy was supposed to win the prize
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55365.msg7922994#msg7922994

instead anonibet gave prize to someone else... his profile picture was fake... it is picture u can download from internet... this is proof contest winner was fake facebook account anonibet created it to keep prize to them!

anonibet scam # 3

anonibet did not pay 2btc for unlucky bet... many days after contest people ask why but no answer... after long time anonibet finally say they did not pay 2 btc unlucky bet because the guy who won it also won the contest...

this is another proof that anonibet employee won contest because if he was normal user u think he will not complain and not even ask for prize?

contest rule did not say if u win prize u can not win unlucky bet too...

what happened is anonibet faked paying prizes but they forgot to fake the unlucky bet prize... when someone asked about it they did not say anything they hoped people will forget but more people asked so they made up story...

anonibet scam # 4

Our games have a good winning ratio, meaning you have the chance to scoop big in our provably fair Casino.

anonibet say their casino is provably fair... BUT IT IS NOT!!!

i ask for provably fair verification but they keep silent... finally they show paper but this is no provably fair verification!!!

anonibet can use this paper as toilet paper!!

provably fair mean player help make game true random and u can verify game was fair after it is over so casino can not cheat...
read here what is provably fair http://bitcoinreviewer.com/provably-fair/

anonibet is NOT provably fair... i caught them LIE AGAIN... they can cheat if they want... let u win small bets and lose BIG bets...

after anonibet cheat 22btc from me and others in world cup and facebook contests now they look for new fish to scam in casino...



Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: CoolRunnings21 on September 26, 2014, 07:09:22 AM
I would say http://satoshiroulette.com/ is a scam site. They wont per say steal your money but they do at the same time. A 0.001 sic bo bet will only pay out 0.0013 its used to be 0.0019 to cover for the fee. It seems every couple of weeks they have slowly added more price to the fee. So for a bet that should pay close to 1:1 they are paying 1:3. Also it is slow as fuck sending back bets.

Why would you say this is a scam?

Could it be that they are just raising the price (which is legitimate) or could they be doing so without letting their users know (scam)?

Also, what do you mean by, slow at sending payouts? Is it so slow that you are concerned they will stop sending payouts altogether?

The board says payout 1:1 and that is how those bets are for Sic bo. It used to be a straight tx id fee and now its almost 70% of your win. It has gone up slowly but surely and the long thig is, sometimes you send your bet and it take 30 mins for it to post, then it takes 1-2hours to get back to you btc account.

So if you bet 0.01 your only going to get paid 0.03.



Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: chong ching on October 01, 2014, 12:12:14 PM
I caught anonibet scam 4 times..

if u know more scams please post them in my anonibet scams thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697256.0

anonibet scam # 1

anonibet had world cup contest with 20 btc prize, 10 btc for first, 5 btc for second, 3 btc for third and 2 btc for unlucky bet

I played in this contest I placed many bets for many days and won 65 points... at that time first place had only 9 points so I had big big lead!

I had to lose 0.55 btc to win so many points but my plan was to lose little to get big prize

anonibet ask me in chat to post my bets in their thread here for contest or else I can not win any prize so I open this account and post my bets here is proof https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55365.msg7590389#msg7590389

As soon as I posted my bets all of a sudden two complete newbies accounts came in and posted tons of BIG bets, just enough to beat me.

I suspected it was Anonibet playing in their own contest but I had no way to prove it... I knew I have no chance to win them so I stop play... bye bye 0.55 btc...

then after contest was over I found that one of the winners has facebook page with anonibet logo and address in contact info... also his facebook page was open in 2011 when anonibet open... this is the proof that anonibet played in their own contest to keep prize for them.

http://s14.postimg.org/wvpk32v8x/Anonibet1.jpg

http://s1.postimg.org/p04ccegnj/Anonibet2.jpg

http://s25.postimg.org/w0s2dcme7/Anonibet3.jpg

immediately after I post this scam anonibet deleted this facebook page to hide the scam so I showed cached version on google of original facebook page with anonibet address in contact info!! after anonibet learn they can not hide the past they put the facebook page back up but removed all links to anonibet.com from the contact info... mmm... clearly an over reaction, trying to get rid of evidence... that's what u do when u have something to hide...

now I tell everyone on this scam to revenge anonibet and teach them it is not worth to scam us players!

anonibet say I am paid poster but no one pay me to post I do this to revenge anonibet!

I put 70+ bets with my own money and posted them in anonibet thread before anonibet created new bitcoin talk accounts to cheat me in contest... this is proof that i wanted to play in anonibet contest and not to fight them!

u can see contest winner anonitips create his bitcoin talk account few hours after I post my bets for contest...

anonibet scam # 2

anonibet had 2 btc meme contest in facebook... they changed the rules after the contest was already over and did not award the winnings to the person who was supposed to win it based on the rules that were announced before the contest... that's now a total scam of 22 btc!!!

see here, this guy was supposed to win the prize
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55365.msg7922994#msg7922994

instead anonibet gave prize to someone else... his profile picture was fake... it is picture u can download from internet... this is proof contest winner was fake facebook account anonibet created it to keep prize to them!

anonibet scam # 3

anonibet did not pay 2btc for unlucky bet... many days after contest people ask why but no answer... after long time anonibet finally say they did not pay 2 btc unlucky bet because the guy who won it also won the contest...

this is another proof that anonibet employee won contest because if he was normal user u think he will not complain and not even ask for prize?

contest rule did not say if u win prize u can not win unlucky bet too...

what happened is anonibet faked paying prizes but they forgot to fake the unlucky bet prize... when someone asked about it they did not say anything they hoped people will forget but more people asked so they made up story...

anonibet scam # 4

Our games have a good winning ratio, meaning you have the chance to scoop big in our provably fair Casino.

anonibet say their casino is provably fair... BUT IT IS NOT!!!

i ask for provably fair verification but they keep silent... finally they show paper but this is no provably fair verification!!!

anonibet can use this paper as toilet paper!!

provably fair mean player help make game true random and u can verify game was fair after it is over so casino can not cheat...
read here what is provably fair http://bitcoinreviewer.com/provably-fair/

anonibet is NOT provably fair... i caught them LIE AGAIN... they can cheat if they want... let u win small bets and lose BIG bets...

after anonibet cheat 22btc from me and others in world cup and facebook contests now they look for new fish to scam in casino...



The claims that your are making here are quite considerable. Thank you for taking the time and making them readable and accessible to the community.

I call for a representative of anonibet to explain their side of the story, as I am sure the community would like to get a full picture of those events.


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: AngleBiter on October 01, 2014, 09:57:03 PM
Looks like Dicebitco.in got caught cheating again.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=716312.1600


Title: Re: scam betting sites
Post by: altcoinlady on October 02, 2014, 11:05:33 AM
Looks like Dicebitco.in got caught cheating again.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=716312.1600

That site is urgh! I hate it!