Title: Secure messaging Post by: Bitsky on September 19, 2014, 01:47:41 PM Here is a short list of IM clients which are (or promise to be) secure.
Feel free to add others, discuss and vote for your favorite one. Bitmessage URL: https://bitmessage.org/wiki/Main_Page Clients: Windows / Mac / Linux Open Source: Yes ( https://github.com/Bitmessage/PyBitmessage ) Notes: Currently has problems with spam/abuse/dos ( https://bitmessage.org/forum/index.php?topic=4136.0 ) Bleep URL: http://labs.bittorrent.com/bleep/ Clients: Windows / Mac / Android Open Source: No Notes: The company behind the closed source is US based Notes: EULA grants BitTorrent Inc very broad rights to collect (and share) data about users Invisible.im URL: http://invisible.im/ Clients: None yet Open Source: No / Not yet Notes: Currently re-basing to Ricochet Ricochet URL: https://ricochet.im/ Clients: Windows / Mac ( https://ricochet.im/releases/latest/ ) Open Source: Yes ( https://github.com/ricochet-im/ricochet/ ) Notes: requires OpenGL 2 TorChat URL: https://github.com/prof7bit/TorChat Clients: Windows / Linux / Pidgin plugins Open Source: Yes ( https://github.com/prof7bit/TorChat ) Notes: Dead? Last commit was back in January Tox URL: https://tox.im/ Clients: Windows / Mac / Linux / Android / etc ( https://wiki.tox.im/Binaries ) Open Source: Yes ( https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore ) Notes: - Title: Re: Secure messaging Post by: KIRAZ on September 19, 2014, 02:24:33 PM bitmessage is the best so far but the client goes unresponsive sometimes. I'll give Ricochet a try thanks for the list.
Title: Re: Secure messaging Post by: Bitsky on September 19, 2014, 03:19:30 PM Don't forget BitTorrent Messenger. Isn't that Bleep? Both come from BitTorrent Inc.Bleep would be the last of my choices. A thread at their forums about open-sourcing Bleep gets pretty much shot down with ridiculous arguments (like closed source is better because security by obscurity). Their security approach boils down to "trust us". Somewhat funny because only thanks to the open and freely accessible protocol specs, Bittorrent became so popular and widely ported. http://forum.bittorrent.com/topic/30924-open-source/ Title: Re: Secure messaging Post by: Justin00 on September 19, 2014, 04:07:47 PM Don't really understand this thread..
but I use "PGP SMS".... to send/rec encrypted SMS to people... its for android but i think iphone has a version of it to. Title: Re: Secure messaging Post by: micheline on September 19, 2014, 04:24:22 PM Helpful list, bookmarked.
There also exists an OTR plugin for various messengers: https://otr.cypherpunks.ca Title: Re: Secure messaging Post by: CryptoFutaba on September 19, 2014, 04:27:03 PM I use Bitmessage, and always encourage my contacts to do the same.
They've got a great service. Bitmessage + GPG = best Title: Re: Secure messaging Post by: kwukduck on September 21, 2014, 07:51:03 PM I wonder why the Ricochet developer has chosen to use tor again, i have strong doubts about its security, add to that it doesn't seem to do anything different than the already existing torchat.
The I2P protocol would have been a much more interesting and secure choice imho. I'm impressed by the Tox effort, going to keep a close eye on that one, open source, multi-platform, very good initiative! Bitmessage is great, but slow as #@$! and not available for mobile devices. Bleep is out of the question, closed source proprietary spy junk. Title: Re: Secure messaging Post by: mckim0012 on September 21, 2014, 07:53:55 PM I like Bitmessage hope they can sort the problems.
Title: Re: Secure messaging Post by: zutu92 on September 21, 2014, 08:44:20 PM I like bitmessage. But most of my contacts does not use it.
Title: Re: Secure messaging Post by: Bitsky on September 22, 2014, 06:01:03 PM I wonder why the Ricochet developer has chosen to use tor again, i have strong doubts about its security, add to that it doesn't seem to do anything different than the already existing torchat. If you want to use I2P-Messenger, you need to have I2P installed (and last time I checked, that required a JRE too). Tor appears to be easier to implement. As far as I understand, I2P connects users directly through the network, while for a Ricochet chat, both sides work out a random rendevous point in the Tor network. That means there are 6 hops between both users.The I2P protocol would have been a much more interesting and secure choice imho. I'm impressed by the Tox effort, going to keep a close eye on that one, open source, multi-platform, very good initiative! Bitmessage is great, but slow as #@$! and not available for mobile devices. Bleep is out of the question, closed source proprietary spy junk. Tox looks good indeed. You can add another layer by tunneling it through Tor too and maybe a future release implements it directly. Secure messaging has to be as simple as possible because your everyday WhatsApp/Snapchat user does not want to invest time into security. |