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Title: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: An0n1337 on September 19, 2014, 05:22:26 PM I came across the posts, screens about this and have been reading up on this. If, infact, those screen shots are real, every site that has them should delete them ASAP. It wasn't hard to get ALL the information behind the "blacked out" ms paint they covered with.
Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: BetcoinPlayer on September 19, 2014, 05:23:05 PM What screens?
Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on September 19, 2014, 05:24:58 PM I came across the posts, screens about this and have been reading up on this. If, infact, those screen shots are real, every site that has them should delete them ASAP. It wasn't hard to get ALL the information behind the "blacked out" ms paint they covered with. Its been discussed before.Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: The Bad Guy on September 19, 2014, 05:30:46 PM What screens ? Satoshi DOX ? what this means ? they know where he lives and who is he ? :o :o
Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: juju on September 19, 2014, 05:41:37 PM What screens ? Satoshi DOX ? what this means ? they know where he lives and who is he ? :o :o https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775174.0 Dox probably is not real at all since its been quite sometime ~11 days since the account was used after it was compromised and no one knows still who Satoshi is. Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: The Bad Guy on September 19, 2014, 05:51:59 PM What screens ? Satoshi DOX ? what this means ? they know where he lives and who is he ? :o :o https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775174.0 Dox probably is not real at all since its been quite sometime ~11 days since the account was used after it was compromised and no one knows still who Satoshi is. Oh I saw that post before , thanks mate :o Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: The Bad Guy on September 19, 2014, 06:07:02 PM What screens ? Satoshi DOX ? what this means ? they know where he lives and who is he ? :o :o If you want what I researched and found I can post it here. If I do - it will turn into a lot of people saying it's not him(if they actually read the evidence, they would know it is him, Yea I really want the information mate :-[ :-[ Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: pikabit on September 19, 2014, 06:10:40 PM Wasnt it proved a fraud?
Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: The Bad Guy on September 19, 2014, 06:41:07 PM @The Bad Guy Give me couple minutes and I'll post it. Everything that will be there can be verified through provided links and Google. I had my original theory and some info I obtained through another member here. Alright , take your time , thanks mate EDIT : Just saw that you edited , thank you so much mate !!! rly helpful , I will read that :D Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: bornil267645 on September 19, 2014, 07:07:44 PM here we are, assuming so many different things for a man who doesn't even exist :-\ :-\
Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: UsernameBitcoin on September 19, 2014, 07:33:41 PM @The Bad Guy This first section was brought to my attention not too long ago by a member here that spent more time researching this than anyone could imagine. The second section was when I was narrowing it down to the Cypherpunks that had to be involved. . . . That was an impressive analysis and interesting post. Thanks. Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: MikeCorleone on September 19, 2014, 07:42:14 PM Very indepth post man.
Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: kingscrown on September 20, 2014, 02:40:53 AM loving this post and actually makes alot of sense.
Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: Bill Bisco on September 20, 2014, 03:22:11 PM We need a linguistic analysis between satoshi and nash. That's he main hurdle in my view.
Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: Aquent on September 20, 2014, 04:11:09 PM The man is 86!
You insane??????? Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: UsernameBitcoin on September 20, 2014, 06:19:42 PM @ Bill Bisco I read an article about Nash changing his writing style to play secret jokes on his colleagues and research assistants. I have been comparing Satoshi's bitcointalk.org posts to the white paper and both Nash and Szabo. Remember, Szabo has been rewriting Nashs papers for 20+ years. For every line in Ideal Money, Szabo wrote a paper on it. But this is serious game theory with a lifetime of planning and I'm positive the linguistics analysis of the white paper and the posts were thought of and measures were taken to misdirect the findings years ago. @ Aquent That's why I think Nash let Szabo run lead with himself as the Progect Manager. Nash had all the work completed and perfictly thought out and designed, it just had to be implimented. Nash contacted Szabo and two months later the white paper surfaced. Hal was brought in around this time also. Once Bitcoin was online and working somewhat stable, Nash give the keys to Szabo's trustworthy buddy Gavin, leaving the creator of bitcoin a mystery so there is no one to accuse of being crazy or a terrorist or a thief. Note: we don't know exactly how it happened, it just all leads back to John Nash being assisted by Szabo in one way or another. IMHO. Do we know for sure if any communication between Nash and Szabo actually happened? Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: CryptoCarmen on September 20, 2014, 07:25:57 PM The man is 86! You insane??????? It needed lots of time that such genius idea hatched. Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: UsernameBitcoin on September 20, 2014, 08:03:51 PM @UsernameBitcoin I'm actually looking for that info right now. To try to better understand the time of the white paper. Two months before the white paper Szabo reached out for assistance with BitGold. Satoshi may or may not have contacted Szabo then. If not, Satoshi using Wei Dai as a portal to reach out for certain people could have been where they connected. It does seem while John Nash was touring the world and giving lectures on Ideal Money and the fact that Szabo was studying and writing papers on it for 20+ years that they could have crossed paths and communicated. They also both lived and worked in a very small online cypher community. Remember, Szabo said he knows who Satoshi is. But who is Szabo? Szabo is indeed a mysterious character. Besides his blog with lots of interesting articles, not much information can be found about him. He allegedly works/ed for Vaurum but this information wasn't online for long (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ajrmg/nick_szabo_reliable_secure_p2p_broadcast_crucial/ciw1ncu) The only thing that let me doubt that Nash is involved a lot is his age. Doesn't necessarily have to mean something but I'd expect someone else when it comes to an internet currency. Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: rampage101 on September 21, 2014, 12:41:17 AM Hey, I am trying to give the John Nash story more credibility through my Bitcoin news site, and referencing this thread. Some are saying this John Nash stuff is old news though?
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2gzoxa/john_nash_is_satoshi_nakamoto/ An upvote on Reddit would be much appreciated! Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: cryptworld on September 21, 2014, 12:50:28 AM Hey, I am trying to give the John Nash story more credibility through my Bitcoin news site, and referencing this thread. Some are saying this John Nash stuff is old news though? I don't believe john nash is satoshihttp://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2gzoxa/john_nash_is_satoshi_nakamoto/ An upvote on Reddit would be much appreciated! I am sure satoshi is not a famous person Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: rampage101 on September 21, 2014, 02:15:07 AM "followed the link, looks like everyone there was just looking at the movie clips and not seeing bitcoin - then making comments without any research."
Yea, do you think it would help the story to remove the video link? I was trying to get the post to look professional, but not sure the best way since it's considered highly speculative. Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: traincarswreck on September 21, 2014, 04:02:08 PM @UsernameBitcoin Ideal money is not a complete lecture, but rather a cryptic outline. Szabo's blog is the "encyclopedia" that explains the outline. For nearly every line in ideal money, you will find a corresponding Szabo blog post such as:I'm actually looking for that info right now to try and better understand the time of the white paper. Two months before the white paper Szabo reached out for assistance with BitGold. Satoshi may or may not have contacted Szabo then. If not, Satoshi using Wei Dai as a portal to reach out for certain people could have been where they connected. It does seem while John Nash was touring the world and giving lectures on Ideal Money and the fact that Szabo was studying and writing papers on it for 20+ years that they could have crossed paths and communicated. They also both lived and worked in a very small online cypher community. Remember, Szabo said he knows who Satoshi is. But who is Szabo? Ideal Money: "Money has a long an interesting history..." Szabo blog: Shelling out. Szabo's blog also extensively defines the ICPI, which is the industrial consumption index which is another "headline" in ideal money. Do we know for sure if any communication between Nash and Szabo actually happened? It never did, nor could it. They are not likely different people, Szabo's blog is simply the reasearch required to final realize "bitcoin". What seems likely is the old many knew he was on to something, kept studying frantically, and finally one day just came up with the realization he could "do it". After the realization (even before bitcoin.pdf) he could foresee future technology and change because of the solution he knew existed (hypermoney), AND he was able to peer deeper into the past because he was able to see The man is 86! Ya. And ideal money is an idea that came to him in 1960's when we "went crazy" and fled to the UK from the US government, tried to seek asylum in Europe and exchange his money for one of better quality (swiss). He was brought back in chains, and eventually became a teacher at princeton where he developed the legend/nickname the fine hall phantom for secretly writing cryptic math on the chalk boards at night.About dai Quote http://lesswrong.com/lw/kk5/look_for_the_next_tech_gold_rush/#comments "Comment author: Wei_Dai 23 July 2014 01:07:17AM 2 points [-] Random: I would have thought you did, based on your research. Dai No, my monetary policy views were firmly mainstream, which considers rapid unpredictable changes in prices, in either direction, to be a really bad thing for a currency. So I designed b-money to have a stable value relative to a basket of commodities, and until Bitcoin came along, never thought anyone might deliberately design a currency to have a fixed total supply." Now looking at Ideal money: Quote Ideal Money is a theoretical notion promogulated by John Nash, to stabilize international currencies. It is a solution to the Triffin dilemma. "He proposed that international exchange rates be fixed by pegging the value of each currency to a standardized basket of commodities, called the industrial consumption price index. Such a policy would curtail the ability of central banks to make monetary policy." You just have to ask, did wei dai admit he didn't think of "bitcoin" or printing a fixed total supply? Or did he say he never thought of it until "bitcoin? Also when Gavin says for example he attended a lecture at princeton with Szabo, is seems likely he knows Szabo is Nash and Nash was at the lecture (since after all it was princeton). While we are linking to my blogs, here is one with the more significant and identifiable quotes involving Nash http://thewealthofchips.wordpress.com/2014/09/01/an-interesting-biography-an-interesting-blog-and-an-interesting-lecture-on-ideal-money/ Here is some comparisons of Nash/Szabo in relation to ideal money https://wordpress.com/read/post/id/68986136/134/ Also be careful with the quotes, for example Szabo didn't say "I am not Satoshi" on twitter. Someone said "thx Satoshi" to szabo, and szabo said "not satoshi, but thank you" Szabo didn't say him and dai went to uni together but rather "I went to the same uni dai did". Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: mustang77 on September 21, 2014, 04:17:20 PM Is it true it was just a random kid that got doxxed?
Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: AGD on September 21, 2014, 04:28:49 PM Is it true it was just a random kid that got doxxed? Don't expect an answer. Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: mlferro on September 21, 2014, 04:44:18 PM did not understand almost nothing .... but oh well
Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: kingscrown on September 22, 2014, 02:18:16 AM since this topic is great and Billbags allowed me i made a mashup and posted this to my blog with loads of followers, lets see if somebody drops more light on this research
http://fuk.io/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto-the-truth/ heres reddits to vote up if you want this spread: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2h385g/personal_research_on_satoshi_nakamoto/ http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/2h386u/personal_research_on_satoshi_nakamoto/ http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2h388u/personal_research_on_satoshi_nakamoto/ Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: deephouse on September 22, 2014, 11:34:08 AM We expect "satoshi nakamoto" is japenese. When you take out "I am Nash" you are left with "sato" and "koto" Japenese is the key because if you didn't know the language then you could never match the words to verify the code cracking sato = the most popular japenese name koto = japan's national instrument Off topic, but this reminded me of Dan Brown's book on Cryptography/Code breaking: Digital Fortress, 1998 ;) Quote Fletcher discovers through a tracer that North Dakota and Ensei Tankado are actually the same person, as "NDAKOTA" is an anagram of "Tankado". Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: deephouse on September 24, 2014, 09:17:13 AM Good research! Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: Nautica on September 24, 2014, 10:05:04 AM BillBags:
THANK YOU for this fascinating write-up. Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: runam0k on September 24, 2014, 10:19:32 AM Indeed, fascinating stuff.
Title: Re: About the Satoshi DOX Post by: Nautica on September 27, 2014, 11:43:51 AM Where did Billbags go?? ???
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