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Hello all,

Need to sell some units to make space for other manufacturers. Pictures of the units can be found in their respective setup threads from my signature. Shipping is from the UK and the total price is base price + shipping + tax (if applicable). See below.

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XBTech Pacific 1250 - 1.25 to 1.3TH
Including PSU and internal RaspPi controller.

Base Price: BTC 1.8

UK                       : = 0.36 tax, free shipping = 2.16
EU non business     : = 0.44 tax, 0.40 shipping = 2.64
EU VAT business     : = 0.00 tax  0.40 shipping = 2.20
US                       : = 0.00 tax, 0.60 shipping = 2.40

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BitCrane T-110 - 0.9 to 1TH [ambient sensitive]
Including PSU and internal Cubie controller.

Base Price: BTC 1.35

UK                       : = 0.27 tax, free shipping = 1.62
EU non business     : = 0.32 tax, 0.25 shipping = 1.92
EU VAT business     : = 0.00 tax  0.25 shipping = 1.60
US                       : = 0.00 tax, 0.40 shipping = 1.75

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RockMiner T1 - 0.73 to 0.75TH
Inc controller, without controller PSU.

Base Price: BTC 0.95

UK                       : = 0.19 tax, free shipping = 1.14
EU non business     : = 0.24 tax, 0.25 shipping = 1.44
EU VAT business     : = 0.00 tax  0.25 shipping = 1.35
US                       : = 0.00 tax, 0.40 shipping = 1.50

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Bitmine Desk - 1TH
Including internal Pi controller, no PSU, no LCD.

Base Price: BTC 1.15

UK                       : = 0.23 tax, free shipping = 1.38
EU non business     : = 0.29 tax, 0.30 shipping = 1.74
EU VAT business     : = 0.00 tax  0.30 shipping = 1.45
US                       : = 0.00 tax, 0.50 shipping = 1.65

Those bitcranes are nice looking machines, how come it's so slow I thought they were meant to be 1.1TH and there was nothing in your guide about the lower speed.

[ambient sensitive]

I assume is the culprit...my hashfast systems need cold air to hit max speeds.

Our bitcrane had no problems running 1100+ at 85f or so.

In fact I just software restarted it and its been chugging along at 1TH for the last hour. One of the cores is too hot so is throttling due to my crazy ambient at the moment. Seems that over time it was losing hash rate and just needed a restart. I won't change it for now though.

Lowered prices

Just a quick question are you VAT registered to be charging VAT in the UK

Yep

How about shipping to ASIA?

How does that XBTech Pacific 1250 play with p2pool dogie? If it works with p2pool I might be interested - I'm in the UK.

Totally not interested in that VAT nonsense though..... ;)

Sure, shipping is at cost anyway.

Not sure.

Lowered prices

Bump. Prices are good, people seem to be forgetting there's $200 of PSU in these, when the sale price is only $800.

They're not that good dogie, sorry. Having said that, point the XBTech at my p2pool node - if it works OK I might haggle out a price with you for it........ ;)

I'm not going to do that, sorry. If you want to link me to in hand hardware, including PSU and case at significantly lower then you're free to do so.

Dude, I just wanted to know if it works with p2pool before I buy it, as I can't get an answer anywhere else.......

But, as you wish. Good luck with your sale - and your new job, you'll need it... ;)

But I have no idea if anything is happening once I point it at your P2P node, because its your P2P node. Also you're not actually offering to buy it if works on p2p, you're saying its overpriced and if it works on p2p then you'll offer significantly lower than I'm asking.

No longer interested. Thanks.

You never were :/

Dogie, your guides are great - but your prices are too high, especially for gear that was given to you for free to review - and your sales pitch sucks.

What's with the attitude? Is your new Bitmaintech job stressing you out already?

Good luck to seller .. super OP compare to bnew

I asked before for someone to link to where they're buying in hand hardware at lower prices, and have yet to receive such information. The 'buyer' before wanted me to point my mining power at his account so he could 'verify' it worked, so he could then give me a self admitted low ball offer.

What a cheek it's like selling hardware that was free and charging VAT on top some people :)

1) its not free
2) VAT collection is a legal requirement. If you want to commit tax evasion thats up to you.

Hey we are all just trying to make a living why give the government any extra they will just give it the damn bankers and let them lose it :)

Lower prices

.... No? The last time I updated prices was 4 days ago, so I account for mining revenue + adjust for market + bitcoin price. If all you're going to do is troll, don't post.

so we have to pay VAT? like to a company?

you are in UK...and guys in US can have a miner cheaper than in UK... nice!

Whats a VAT?

Value added tax like if you bought it from a shop or offline.

 :D :D....VAT.... :D :D

Dogie. The only one on the forum trying to charge VAT for second hand miners. That he got for free.

The Bitmain greed thing is rubbing off on you.

Bad, bad Dogie...... :D :D

That was a calc error, fixed now. The US shouldn't get anything cheaper unless its something very light.


Maybe because I'm the only one who's either 1) an established business or 2) not committing tax fraud. I don't make any money out of collecting VAT, in fact I lose 20% of everything I do in order to pay those taxes, included on this sale. The VAT collected goes directly to the government, I'm not sure what you're trying to get at.

The collection of VAT is a legal requirement for VAT registered businesses all over the world selling within their own regions. If you buy out of your region, (ie someone in the UK buying from China), you pay this VAT when it enters the country. If you buy from a non business in your region, the price won't have VAT included but will be 20% higher to begin with...

So what do you sell doggie would be interested to see your wares always looking for new sites to buy from in the UK with BTC I assume you accept it.

BTC is preferred. Whats for sale is in the 1st post, a few things get added every now and then.

Hi I enjoy your reviews on hardware and full setup guides. I live in the uk and if i were to purchase a rockminer t1 from zeus it would cost me with vat etc 1.26btc at the current exchange rate of £199 / btc.  for brand new hardware. if I were to go to rockminer shop direct with shipping and vat is at 1.15btc for brand new hardware. I would like to purchase a T1 from yourself pay in btc even pickup? if not too far ( I am midlands based but travel) Are you open to price negotiation on the T1?

Oh I thought you had a real business not just a few items on here for sale by the way you were talking.

You've also got the 2-4 days shipping it round the world in there. I don't accept pickup for security as UK delivery is usually next day, BTC is fine. You're right about the price on that unit so I've dropped 0.15 off the base (+0.03 from the VAT reduction). You're free to put in an offer at any price you want.

VAT is applicable to all business types, not just those selling physical goods. But no, I don't have a shop or anything. I have limited testing capacity and need to constantly turn it over to keep it open for everyone.

I wasn't talking about VAT I just thought you had a business, And please don't take me the wrong way not trying to offend you as I also find your reviews of great use keep up the good work :)

I know, I too was also just saying that VAT doesn't just go on physical goods so lots of people have to register for VAT for lots of different reasons other than the typical selling stuff model.

You have to realize though your the only person on here adding VAT to your sales thread, But if I had enough I would have the rockerminer T1 :)

Everyone is adding the value of VAT, they're just not displaying what part of the transaction is VAT or not. If they're not displaying VAT, then they've already paid the VAT and will be charging you 20% more. The only thing me displaying (as is legally required) what portion is the item and what portion is the VAT does it make it clear why different regions have different prices.

If the long term resellers aren't charging VAT within their region, they're probably also evading taxes. You're free to get involved with that game if you want, but I'm not.

Hi Dogie I have sent you a pm regarding the T1.

Sold, dispatching tomorrow

Very interested in the Bitcrane, I'll ask my friend if we can use his company for the VAT again...

How about 1.50 for the bitcrane for EU w/o vat?

Is it possible to replace the fans with quieter ones?

Updated prices

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