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Economy => Service Discussion => Topic started by: rabbiter on September 24, 2014, 05:38:38 AM



Title: Holding USD on BTER without a bank.
Post by: rabbiter on September 24, 2014, 05:38:38 AM
I found you can hold USD on BYER without a bank account connected. This is great if many people use it as we can have liquidity to protect ourselves when altcoins have bad periods.


Does anyone know any other exchanges ages that are more liquid and let you hold USD. Does BTCe?


Title: Re: Holding USD on BTER without a bank.
Post by: nsimmons on September 24, 2014, 05:45:43 AM
btce, cavirtex(cad), bitfinex.


Title: Re: Holding USD on BTER without a bank.
Post by: rabbiter on September 24, 2014, 06:48:08 AM
btce, cavirtex(cad), bitfinex.

I hoped BTCe would cause they have massive liquidity, I'm surprised it is though and I expect a lot of people don't know you can so easily shelter in fiat.


Title: Re: Holding USD on BTER without a bank.
Post by: bl4kjaguar on September 24, 2014, 07:05:11 AM
Coinapult LOCKS service (http://www.coindesk.com/coinapult-launches-locks-tool-eliminate-bitcoin-price-volatility/)
Nubits
BitUSD


Title: Re: Holding USD on BTER without a bank.
Post by: rabbiter on September 24, 2014, 07:22:59 AM
Coinapult LOCKS service (http://www.coindesk.com/coinapult-launches-locks-tool-eliminate-bitcoin-price-volatility/)
Nubits
BitUSD


What is difference between bitusd and simply usd/BTC on BTER?


Title: Re: Holding USD on BTER without a bank.
Post by: tvbstar on September 24, 2014, 07:34:07 AM
I found you can hold USD on BYER without a bank account connected. This is great if many people use it as we can have liquidity to protect ourselves when altcoins have bad periods.


Does anyone know any other exchanges ages that are more liquid and let you hold USD. Does BTCe?

Does not all coins can help you to hold USD? exchange into BTC then BTC into USD?


Title: Re: Holding USD on BTER without a bank.
Post by: rabbiter on September 24, 2014, 08:43:12 AM
I found you can hold USD on BYER without a bank account connected. This is great if many people use it as we can have liquidity to protect ourselves when altcoins have bad periods.


Does anyone know any other exchanges ages that are more liquid and let you hold USD. Does BTCe?

Does not all coins can help you to hold USD? exchange into BTC then BTC into USD?


yeah, which is why it's so useful, I'm guessing many don't know you can. Of course if you don't connect a bank account you can exit from these exchanges in USD but the point is it very useful when altcoins are all ona downward slide, and the you can buy back in when things are on the up.

It's good for Altcoins as well cause if traded well people are putting more USD into the system, or at least that's the potential. It also could mean volatility if more people bounce into fiat on these exchanges at any sign of BTC or alts wilting.


Title: Re: Holding USD on BTER without a bank.
Post by: stdset on September 24, 2014, 09:07:43 AM
CoinoUSD


Title: Re: Holding USD on BTER without a bank.
Post by: testz on September 24, 2014, 09:47:57 AM
CoinoUSD

or BitUSD: http://bitcoinist.net/big-showdown-coinousd-vs-bitusd/


Title: Re: Holding USD on BTER without a bank.
Post by: bonipper on September 24, 2014, 09:55:01 AM
Is there a limit to how much bter will let you hold in USD without a bank account?


Title: Re: Holding USD on BTER without a bank.
Post by: Altcoin Agent on September 24, 2014, 10:32:11 AM
A big word of caution to holding fiat or large ammount of crypto on ANY online service...
Time and time again there have been hacks or companies running away with money. Leave only what you are not afraid to lose.

Don't make the mtGox mistake. I can also name a couple of other sites where people have lost loads of money, and they all looked safe before money was suddenly gone.


Title: Re: Holding USD on BTER without a bank.
Post by: Golden-Fox on September 24, 2014, 02:40:22 PM
Don't put everything you have in the exchanges.Although everything shows 100% security but nothing is actually hack proof in online world.


Title: Re: Holding USD on BTER without a bank.
Post by: Schwarzalbert on September 24, 2014, 03:30:26 PM
I found you can hold USD on BYER without a bank account connected. This is great if many people use it as we can have liquidity to protect ourselves when altcoins have bad periods.


Does anyone know any other exchanges ages that are more liquid and let you hold USD. Does BTCe?

I doubt if that is a good choice to hold your money on bter or somewhere else longer than necessary.
Remind yourself of the last hacking tries on Mt. Gox for example.


Title: Re: Holding USD on BTER without a bank.
Post by: rabbiter on September 24, 2014, 04:58:52 PM
A big word of caution to holding fiat or large ammount of crypto on ANY online service...
Time and time again there have been hacks or companies running away with money. Leave only what you are not afraid to lose.

Don't make the mtGox mistake. I can also name a couple of other sites where people have lost loads of money, and they all looked safe before money was suddenly gone.



Completely agree but I think it gives people options, another string to bow blah blah.

The exchanges that do it are relatively trustworthy like a BTCe, like a BTER. And I wouldn't see it as a long term thing.

Imagine the next time BTC starts to bomb for some news generated reason then I think many would want to run temporarily to this option for a short time. Or if Bitcoin went parabolic and you wanted to lock away some gains in USD until the inevitable crash. It's definetly useful and definitely not utilised by many people in altcoins.


Once decentralised asset exchanges get more developed like NXT or Qora I guess we can use them for the same function.


Title: Re: Holding USD on BTER without a bank.
Post by: bl4kjaguar on September 25, 2014, 12:41:14 AM
Coinapult LOCKS service (http://www.coindesk.com/coinapult-launches-locks-tool-eliminate-bitcoin-price-volatility/)
Nubits
BitUSD


What is difference between bitusd and simply usd/BTC on BTER?

Theoretically, an exchange could institute AML/KYC measures for traders holding significant sums of USD at any time.

Coinapult's LOCKS appears to be more liquid than any fiat exchange.