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Economy => Service Discussion => Topic started by: WhatTheGox on September 25, 2014, 09:12:24 AM



Title: Dear PayPal
Post by: WhatTheGox on September 25, 2014, 09:12:24 AM

Would you prefer to buy/sell/store bitcoins in PayPal vs other companies given the option?


Title: Re: Dear PayPal
Post by: lihuajkl on September 25, 2014, 09:24:17 AM
I wouldn't. They have reputation for being charge back by buyers. If I was a merchant, I would be scared that the bitcoin paid by customers in Paypal would be returned back.  As a customers, Paypay is accepting bitcoin payment through coinbase, bitpay, not directly processing the bitcoin payment. I would rather choose coinbase or bitpay to buy, sell and store bitcoins.


Title: Re: Dear PayPal
Post by: H.W.Z on September 25, 2014, 09:27:58 AM
Easy for me. I don't need to go one exchange to another when I do transactions with bitcoin in Paypal. And I can pay bitcoin directly to the merchants from my account in Paypal if I hold a sum of bitcoin there.


Title: Re: Dear PayPal
Post by: runam0k on September 25, 2014, 10:12:45 AM
I wouldn't. They have reputation for being charge back by buyers. If I was a merchant, I would be scared that the bitcoin paid by customers in Paypal would be returned back.  As a customers, Paypay is accepting bitcoin payment through coinbase, bitpay, not directly processing the bitcoin payment. I would rather choose coinbase or bitpay to buy, sell and store bitcoins.
Surely PayPal (and when it happens, eBay) will rely on huge red flag type disclaimers that simply say, "hey, if you pay in bitcoins and something goes wrong, your only recourse is to the merchant, not us".

Don't forget, a very large proportion of chargebacks are caused by people using stolen credit card details.  Not possible with Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Dear PayPal
Post by: ikydesu on September 25, 2014, 10:27:21 AM
I wouldn't. They have reputation for being charge back by buyers. If I was a merchant, I would be scared that the bitcoin paid by customers in Paypal would be returned back.  As a customers, Paypay is accepting bitcoin payment through coinbase, bitpay, not directly processing the bitcoin payment. I would rather choose coinbase or bitpay to buy, sell and store bitcoins.
Surely PayPal (and when it happens, eBay) will rely on huge red flag type disclaimers that simply say, "hey, if you pay in bitcoins and something goes wrong, your only recourse is to the merchant, not us".

Don't forget, a very large proportion of chargebacks are caused by people using stolen credit card details.  Not possible with Bitcoin.

this is what i was afraid.

maybe most people see(I initially including), this great step for bitcoin. But i think again at the time, and this condition make me afraid.


Title: Re: Dear PayPal
Post by: newflesh on September 25, 2014, 10:32:22 AM

Would you prefer to buy/sell/store bitcoins in PayPal vs other companies given the option?

Not really, already got stung really hard with chargebacks so I'm pretty reluctant to go back to using Paypal (or Ebay for that matter).



Title: Re: Dear PayPal
Post by: RustyNomad on September 25, 2014, 10:56:12 AM
No.

Paypal for me is just a payment processor and I've had way to many problems with them in the past. They might be accepting bitcoins now but I do not see them as a main player in the bitcoin field in regards to providing wallets and the like as most of that will be done by a third party in any case.

Storing my bitcoins with Paypal will just not feel right, will feel like me banking all my cash at the local supermarket and not at the bank.


Title: Re: Dear PayPal
Post by: blatchcorn on September 25, 2014, 11:17:33 AM
No.

Paypal for me is just a payment processor and I've had way to many problems with them in the past. They might be accepting bitcoins now but I do not see them as a main player in the bitcoin field in regards to providing wallets and the like as most of that will be done by a third party in any case.

Storing my bitcoins with Paypal will just not feel right, will feel like me banking all my cash at the local supermarket and not at the bank.
But it will feel right for the mainstream, and that is more important


Title: Re: Dear PayPal
Post by: jdany on September 25, 2014, 11:23:17 AM
This is amazing.
We're watching the push (and pull) of bitcoin becoming gold and cash at the same time.
A store of value and a currency of exchange.

I'm not a big fan of Paypal's business practices - but, their adoption puts some major volume into the system.


Title: Re: Dear PayPal
Post by: fryarminer on September 25, 2014, 12:17:40 PM
People who know my history know how much I despise PayPal. They are not welcome to incorporate bitcoin as far as I'm concerned.



Title: Re: Dear PayPal
Post by: fryarminer on September 25, 2014, 12:20:30 PM
And for what it's worth, I trust no company, none - zero - ever - to store my bitcoin for me. Why would I?


Title: Re: Dear PayPal
Post by: spazzdla on September 25, 2014, 07:19:05 PM
And for what it's worth, I trust no company, none - zero - ever - to store my bitcoin for me. Why would I?

This.


Title: Re: Dear PayPal
Post by: keithers on September 25, 2014, 07:53:44 PM
And for what it's worth, I trust no company, none - zero - ever - to store my bitcoin for me. Why would I?

The only way that I would trust a company like paypal to hold the BTC is if our BTC was fully insured against fraudulent purchases and theft.   I don't think they will ever insure it for that.   If they somehow did offer that kind of insurance (just like FDIC), I would not be against leaving a small percentage of my holdings there.    Then you wouldn't have to worry about managing your private keys or keeping track of a tiny piece of paper with the recovery seed.


Title: Re: Dear PayPal
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on September 25, 2014, 08:01:45 PM
I wouldn't. They have reputation for being charge back by buyers. If I was a merchant, I would be scared that the bitcoin paid by customers in Paypal would be returned back.  As a customers, Paypay is accepting bitcoin payment through coinbase, bitpay, not directly processing the bitcoin payment. I would rather choose coinbase or bitpay to buy, sell and store bitcoins.

i agree on that.

its good for the masses but i wouldnt store my bitcoins there.


Title: Re: Dear PayPal
Post by: WhatTheGox on September 25, 2014, 08:10:25 PM

I think i should have been more careful with my wording, im not suggesting cold storage be moved to paypal but i did say the word storage.

I mean more would you prefer to use them vs other companies for your day to day bitcoining and a little short term storage here and there.


Title: Re: Dear PayPal
Post by: cozk on September 25, 2014, 08:25:43 PM
And for what it's worth, I trust no company, none - zero - ever - to store my bitcoin for me. Why would I?

At least they have the assets to repay what they ''lose''

Now for their chargebacks and other ToS scams thats another story and yes they are thief.


Title: Re: Dear PayPal
Post by: CryptoCarmen on September 25, 2014, 08:34:46 PM

Would you prefer to buy/sell/store bitcoins in PayPal vs other companies given the option?

Paypal will steal your bitcoins. Dont trust them!


Title: Re: Dear PayPal
Post by: JLynn171 on September 25, 2014, 08:37:36 PM
I just wondering if they start accepting bitcoin if they will reopen the accounts that were terminated due to buying and selling btc in the past...


Title: Re: Dear PayPal
Post by: Slark on September 26, 2014, 06:32:04 AM
I will wait and see. If their bitcoin services would be favorable, why not? If they offer something better than standard exchange markets I am in. I just need to see it first...


Title: Re: Dear PayPal
Post by: btcm4n14c on September 26, 2014, 09:12:25 AM
Ill wait and see whats their plan.