Bitcoin Forum

Economy => Economics => Topic started by: Robert Paulson on September 26, 2014, 12:20:59 AM



Title: You live by QE you die by QE
Post by: Robert Paulson on September 26, 2014, 12:20:59 AM
now that the fed has almost completely removed QE it won't be long before all the malinvestments in the economy that were propped up by it will unravel, and 2007 repeats itself.
if only we listened to F.A Hayek back in 2009...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk&feature=player_detailpage#t=202 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk&feature=player_detailpage#t=202)
"If you're living high on that cheap credit hog. Don't look for a cure from the hair of the dog. Real savings come first if you want to invest."  :-\


Title: Re: You live by QE you die by QE
Post by: gts476 on September 26, 2014, 01:31:15 AM
now that the fed has almost completely removed QE it won't be long before all the malinvestments in the economy that were propped up by it will unravel, and 2007 repeats itself.
if only we listened to F.A Hayek back in 2009...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk&feature=player_detailpage#t=202 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk&feature=player_detailpage#t=202)
"If you're living high on that cheap credit hog. Don't look for a cure from the hair of the dog. Real savings come first if you want to invest."  :-\

My 2 cents, QE till dec 2016.


Title: Re: You live by QE you die by QE
Post by: Robert Paulson on September 26, 2014, 01:49:48 AM
i doubt it.
http://www.morningstar.co.uk/uk/news/129211/us-to-end-qe-in-october.aspx

they really are delusional enough to believe they can just end it without everything coming crashing down.
as the malinvestments will start to fail they will probably bring QE back, but not sooner than that.


Title: Re: You live by QE you die by QE
Post by: ANTIcentralized on September 26, 2014, 02:30:52 AM
I don't think we will see a repeat of 2007-2009, however I do think we will likely see a good portion of the price appreciation of assets that we have seen over the past ~5 years unravel. I would say that most of the gains in our economy is only temporary (due to QE) however some of it will remain after QE is completely finished.


Title: Re: You live by QE you die by QE
Post by: gts476 on September 26, 2014, 04:59:23 AM
I agree, shit will go down is ever it is ended and or interest rates increase.

So what I think will happen is this.

QE will be 'tapered' to zero, but in reality stealth QE from Europe will be going full speed so the markets will levitate.

Government stats will be manipulated to permit and interest rate hike in dec 2016.

Stealth QE will then be removed, which will cause the markets to crash and burn.

Timed false flag event, maybe in NYC.

Market crash blamed on flash flag event, maybe kick off a war somewhere (ISIS/ISIL?).

Massive civil 'unrest' due to economic pain caused by crash (no worries, DHS has all it's hollow point bullets and concentration camps detention centres ready).

Not sure from here, hyperinflation currency to pay down debt, reset currency whilst occupying the middle east oil fields and force oil sales in new reset currency.

Petrodollar mk. II.



Title: Re: You live by QE you die by QE
Post by: odolvlobo on September 26, 2014, 06:05:35 AM
The real question is that if the Fed isn't buying up new U.S. debt, then who is?


Title: Re: You live by QE you die by QE
Post by: gts476 on September 26, 2014, 06:21:02 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-15/shocking-buying-spree-americas-mysterious-third-largest-treasury-holder-ramps-higher

The Fed via Brussels.


Title: Re: You live by QE you die by QE
Post by: RustyNomad on September 26, 2014, 08:22:53 AM
Just the Fed playing monopoly as usual....

I'm not making any predictions about all the QE and the after affect but one thing is for sure, it ain't going to end well.


Title: Re: You live by QE you die by QE
Post by: polynesia on September 26, 2014, 11:07:25 PM
There was talk about the Fed actually sucking out the liquidity infused through QE.
Guess that isn't happening any time soon.