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Title: Losing money going from local bitcoins to Multibit
Post by: regal on September 28, 2014, 01:54:07 PM
I just moved 500 in btcs to Multi bit and now its $384,     what is goig on?


Title: Re: Losing money going from local bitcoins to Multibit
Post by: s1lverbox on September 28, 2014, 01:54:57 PM
I just moved 500 in btcs to Multi bit and now its $384,     what is goig on?

Something to do with exchange rate?


Title: Re: Losing money going from local bitcoins to Multibit
Post by: cryptomad on September 28, 2014, 01:56:14 PM
I just moved 500 in btcs to Multi bit and now its $384,     what is goig on?

You moved 500btc? And the price has changed?


Title: Re: Losing money going from local bitcoins to Multibit
Post by: shorena on September 28, 2014, 02:11:39 PM
I just moved 500 in btcs to Multi bit and now its $384,     what is goig on?

How much bitcoin did you send?


Title: Re: Losing money going from local bitcoins to Multibit
Post by: bitcoinequipped on September 28, 2014, 02:12:55 PM
wow dude 115$ fucking fees?? no way,,,,,


Title: Re: Losing money going from local bitcoins to Multibit
Post by: EFS on September 28, 2014, 02:15:43 PM
Please be more specific about your problem so we can help.


Title: Re: Losing money going from local bitcoins to Multibit
Post by: Ayers on September 28, 2014, 02:34:24 PM
I just moved 500 in btcs to Multi bit and now its $384,     what is goig on?

You moved 500btc? And the price has changed?

no he moved a value of 500(probably dollars) of his bitcoin, and he lose some money due to big fee or price changed


Title: Re: Losing money going from local bitcoins to Multibit
Post by: cryptomad on September 28, 2014, 03:34:53 PM
I just moved 500 in btcs to Multi bit and now its $384,     what is goig on?

You moved 500btc? And the price has changed?

no he moved a value of 500(probably dollars) of his bitcoin, and he lose some money due to big fee or price changed

Probably due to different exchange rate or like you said he entered a higher fee than usual


Title: Re: Losing money going from local bitcoins to Multibit
Post by: fathur01 on September 28, 2014, 04:15:09 PM
I hope it wasnt eaten up by an unknown or unexpected fee ???


Title: Re: Losing money going from local bitcoins to Multibit
Post by: DannyHamilton on September 28, 2014, 04:34:28 PM
My best guess?

You probably gave $500 to someone on localbitcoins and that person charged you a 20% fee for the privilege of doing business with them, resulting in you receiving $400 worth of bitcoins in your localbitcoins account.

Then you sent those bitcoins from your localbitcoins account to your MultiBit wallet.  In generating the transaction to send the bitcoins to MultiBit, localbitcoins charged you a 0.003 BTC fee which reduced the value of bitcoins received at MultiBit by an additional $1.20 or so.

When you made the localbitcoins purchase (a bit more than 24 hours ago?), the BTC to USD  exchange rate was probably around $406 per BTC.  Now, you are looking at your bitcoin balance in terms of USD today, when the exchange rate is at the moment around $390 per BTC.

Lets try walking through all this:

  • You do a poor job of choosing a seller. You choose someone that charges 20% to do the transaction for you.
  • You give the seller $500
  • The seller uses the current exchange rate yesterday ($406/BTC) to convert $500 to bitcoins (resulting in 1.23153 BTC)
  • The seller keeps 20% (0.24631 BTC, about $100 worth) for himself and sends you 80% (0.98522 BTC, about $400 worth)
  • Localbitcoins charges you 0.003 BTC (about $1.20) to send the bitcoins to your MultiBit wallet
  • Your MultiBit wallet receives about 0.98222 BTC (about $398.80 worth)
  • The exchange rate drops from $406 to $390, therefore the exchange value of $0.98222 BTC drops from about $398.80 to about $383.07

The math works out almost perfectly.  I'd suggest that in the future you do the following to save on costs:

  • Choose a seller that charges a lower fee
  • Meet with the seller face-to-face, and hand them cash.
  • Have them send the bitcoins directly to your MultiBit wallet, skipping localbitcoins account and avoiding the localbitcoins fee
  • If you are not purchasing the bitcoins for long term storage, then use them very quickly after you purchase them so there isn't much time for the exchange rate to drop


Title: Re: Losing money going from local bitcoins to Multibit
Post by: hakkzpets2 on September 29, 2014, 01:59:18 AM
How many BTC you have send? Please be specific on your problem.