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Economy => Trading Discussion => Topic started by: Holysmoke on October 01, 2014, 04:23:29 PM



Title: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: Holysmoke on October 01, 2014, 04:23:29 PM
coindesk says truecoin or coin.mx takes credit card.

I have 0% interest for an entire year and would like to use that even though it has a premium.

thanks


Title: Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: newflesh on October 01, 2014, 04:39:11 PM
Depending where you live, you could try https://www.circle.com/

Haven't used them yet but they've had fairly good feedback so far, they've only just started accepting new members (used to be invite only)


Title: Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: Holysmoke on October 01, 2014, 04:44:31 PM
started making an account with circle until they asked for my birth date and social security number


Title: Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: notlist3d on October 01, 2014, 05:17:43 PM
started making an account with circle until they asked for my birth date and social security number

Assuming you are in US most will want this becuse of know your customer laws.   

You can do localbitcoins without it, but you will pay a higher price.

Personally i suggest setting up a coinbase and have a bank account just for bitcoins. 


Title: Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: Holysmoke on October 01, 2014, 07:37:01 PM
Will my credit card company consider this a cash advance?  If so instead of 0% for one year, it will be 25% immediately.

Holy cow, I will lose my ass.

edit: I just made a $1.00 deposit so I will see how that is charged. 


Title: Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: RustyNomad on October 01, 2014, 08:12:45 PM
Will my credit card company consider this a cash advance?  If so instead of 0% for one year, it will be 25% immediately.

Holy cow, I will lose my ass.

edit: I just made a $1.00 deposit so I will see how that is charged. 

On their website they do state that its treated as a cash advance fee.


Title: Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: birtandco on October 01, 2014, 08:55:49 PM
I've used localbitcoins.com in the past flaw-lessly!


Title: Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: pr472 on October 01, 2014, 10:49:33 PM
started making an account with circle until they asked for my birth date and social security number

I would never give my social security number to a web site like this.


Title: Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: Holysmoke on October 02, 2014, 09:41:38 PM
Will my credit card company consider this a cash advance?  If so instead of 0% for one year, it will be 25% immediately.

Holy cow, I will lose my ass.

edit: I just made a $1.00 deposit so I will see how that is charged. 

On their website they do state that its treated as a cash advance fee.

I was charged the exact amount I deposited plus circles fees.  No cash advance fee from credit card company


Title: Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: notlist3d on October 02, 2014, 11:00:08 PM
You are one brave person if you are willing to let it ride for a year without interest.  I always suggest not investing more then your prepared to lose.  And using a creditcard as a loan on bitcoin my hats off to you.


Title: Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: Holysmoke on October 03, 2014, 12:06:06 AM
it was a very modest deposit, not enough to lose one minute of sleep over.

I really wanted to see how the credit card company would process it.



Title: Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: toleng on October 03, 2014, 04:20:33 AM
Will my credit card company consider this a cash advance?  If so instead of 0% for one year, it will be 25% immediately.

Holy cow, I will lose my ass.

edit: I just made a $1.00 deposit so I will see how that is charged. 
Yes, they will most likely consider this to be a cash advance. One option would be to open a 2nd credit card that has a balance transfer promotion and transfer the balance onto the 2nd credit card, although you would need to pay high interest rates until the balance transfer is complete and need to pay the 3% cash advance fee.

Some credit card companies may have various promotions for cash advances but AFAIK they are not 0% APR but are still low


Title: Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: Itsumo on October 03, 2014, 05:17:25 AM
How much are you going to buy sir?


Title: Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: Driv3n on October 04, 2014, 04:00:54 PM
If you try buying more on Circle I'd like to hear how it goes, I'd like to buy some BTC there with a credit card but not if a cash advance fee gets charged.

Since the IRS has ruled that BTC is property and not currency here in the US is it even legal for a credit card company/bank to charge a cash advance fee for this kind of transaction?


Title: Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: a447513372 on October 04, 2014, 11:05:55 PM
If you try buying more on Circle I'd like to hear how it goes, I'd like to buy some BTC there with a credit card but not if a cash advance fee gets charged.

Since the IRS has ruled that BTC is property and not currency here in the US is it even legal for a credit card company/bank to charge a cash advance fee for this kind of transaction?
When you buy bitcoin you are buying a cash-like product. The IRS does not govern contracts between borrowers and credit card companies


Title: Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: Driv3n on October 05, 2014, 01:19:24 AM
If you try buying more on Circle I'd like to hear how it goes, I'd like to buy some BTC there with a credit card but not if a cash advance fee gets charged.

Since the IRS has ruled that BTC is property and not currency here in the US is it even legal for a credit card company/bank to charge a cash advance fee for this kind of transaction?
When you buy bitcoin you are buying a cash-like product. The IRS does not govern contracts between borrowers and credit card companies

Thanks for the info, I bought $25 worth on circle today so I'll see if they charge it as a cash advance or not.


Title: Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: webfrontier on October 05, 2014, 03:30:08 PM
I have registered on locatbitcoins and I can say that you can find a lot of reputable and trusted traders there.


Title: Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: bezzz on October 10, 2014, 03:12:04 PM
I have registered on locatbitcoins and I can say that you can find a lot of reputable and trusted traders there.
Sure you can. But, damn, the price is extremely high there. I guess, if you are interested in an investment for more that $100 you should find a cheaper place for your purchase.


Title: Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: BTCfan668 on October 10, 2014, 10:27:23 PM
If you try buying more on Circle I'd like to hear how it goes, I'd like to buy some BTC there with a credit card but not if a cash advance fee gets charged.

Since the IRS has ruled that BTC is property and not currency here in the US is it even legal for a credit card company/bank to charge a cash advance fee for this kind of transaction?
When you buy bitcoin you are buying a cash-like product. The IRS does not govern contracts between borrowers and credit card companies

Thanks for the info, I bought $25 worth on circle today so I'll see if they charge it as a cash advance or not.
They most likely will. Another thing to note is that when you have multiple types of balances (for example both cash advances and purchases) the credit card company will credit your payment to the type of balance that carries the lowest interest rate


Title: Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: caga on October 14, 2014, 10:33:45 AM
Virowx was a good site for the same, but their fees are way high now. Circle.com, or sites like quickbt.com(which I use a lot), are good. However, quickbt also has a fees which is significant, but its very easy and hassle free.


Title: Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
Post by: crazy-pilot on October 15, 2014, 06:34:13 AM
Virowx was a good site for the same, but their fees are way high now. Circle.com, or sites like quickbt.com(which I use a lot), are good. However, quickbt also has a fees which is significant, but its very easy and hassle free.
Circle is probably the best option for you now, however it will be more expensive then if you used your bank account to buy bitcoin (and wait a few extra days) as you will pay interest right away to your credit card company and will be liable for a ~3% cash advance fee to your credit card company.

It is probably not a good idea anyway to be borrowing money to purchase a speculative asset like bitcoin